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** Official 2014 Philadelphia Eagles Thread ** (1 Viewer)

I'm thrilled about the re-signings so far. I think it's imperative to keep guys like Cooper who not only showed great chemistry with Foles but is an excellent down-filed blocker. Can't underestimate the importance of that skill.

 
Deranged Hermit said:
Mighty Mice said:
Love the Peters and Kelce extensions! It all starts up front!
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Wow, awesome moves all around when you throw the Cooper deal in. They're gonna hit defense HARD in the draft.
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:thumbup: They also have the option of being able to draft offense on their own terms now.

When you listen to Howie and Chip throughout the last year one thing sticks out to me. They don't BS you. Its such a change from the Reid/ Banner days

 
Bigboy10182000 said:
When you listen to Howie and Chip throughout the last year one thing sticks out to me. They don't BS you. Its such a change from the Reid/ Banner days
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I keep going to back to what Laurie said after letting Reid go - that they evaluated the front office and kept the ones who had the better evaluation record and moved on from those who didn't. Nothing's been proven yet, but I like this new front office.

 
ShaHBucks said:
I wouldn't mind another big receiver in the draft.
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It is very possible.

I think the plan is to make sure all of our basic defensive needs are addressed in free agency so we have "startable" guys in every position and then literally draft the BPA at every draft spot.

 
@RapSheet: As of last night, the #Eagles and WR Jeremy Maclin were hoping for big progress over the next 2 days. Hes next. Lot of optimism here.

@Tim_McManus: Kelce's six-year extension contains $13 million in guaranteed money.

@EliotShorrParks: Chip on Cooper: "We talk a lot about how players have to make most of opportunities & he did just that" #eagles http://t.co/JTzmSTTzXj

@Jeff_McLane: Working on more detailed contract numbers for Riley Cooper, but 5 years, $25 million is considerably inflated, I'm being told.

@JasonLaCanfora: Kelce gets $13M as part of his deal and a max of $40M. Becomes one of the 5 highest paid centers in the game

@JasonLaCanfora: Sorry, meant $13M guaranteed for Kelce, as part of his 6yr extension that maxes out at over $40M.

@EliotShorrParks: The #Eagles have until next Friday to get a deal done with Maclin before another team can call him. So plenty of time left.

@EliotShorrParks: If #Eagles reach deal with Maclin, the only FA's left are Nate Allen, Kurt Coleman, Colt Anderson, Donnie Jones, Clifton Geathers and Vick

@PFF: Another big move for Eagles to lock down Jason Kelce. Our top ranked center in 2013 missed just 11 snaps in last year.

@PFF: Eagles return O-line with top ranked C & LG, 4th ranked LT, highest ranked run blocking RG & RT who scored +12.9 grade in 2nd half of year

@Jeff_McLane: Can confirm that Riley Cooper's 5-year, $25 million contract includes $10 million guaranteed, $8 million of which is fully guaranteed.

@Jeff_McLane: Final $2 mil is for injury only and doesn't become full until third year. RT @jelynchJR: difference between guaranteed and fully guaranteed?

@evansilva: All 3 #Eagles re-signings noticeably low on guaranteed $. Was worried about Roseman initially but he's come on v strong last 13-14 months.

@evansilva: Chip will get most credit & rightfully so but Roseman outlasted overhaul, has back-to-back ###-kicker drafts & #Eagles in great cap shape.

@LesBowen: As @billycuth reminded me, as a longtime vet signed to a one-year deal, Donnie Jones can't sign with the Eagles until free agency starts.

 
Peters, Kelce, Cooper, probably Maclin all locked in :cool:

I still wouldn't mind picking up a WR if it's the BPA in the first. Not a lot of depth behind DJax, Cooper, and possibly Mac.

 
Dear Jeffrey, Howie, and Chip,

I want to make you all aware of my combine numbers. Would love to sit and meet with you.

40 - 5.3 (hand timed)

Bench - 17

Broad - 8'7"

Vertical - 31"

3 cone - 9.2

Wonderlic - 35

I'd also like to point out that I am a season ticket holder, section 209, row 19, seat 8. I could be ready at the drop of a hat. Great motor, intangibles.

Thank you for your consideration,

MM

 
Mighty Mice said:
Dear Jeffrey, Howie, and Chip,

I want to make you all aware of my combine numbers. Would love to sit and meet with you.

40 - 5.3 (hand timed)

Bench - 17

Broad - 8'7"

Vertical - 31"

3 cone - 9.2

Wonderlic - 35

I'd also like to point out that I am a season ticket holder, section 209, row 19, seat 8. I could be ready at the drop of a hat. Great motor, intangibles.

Thank you for your consideration,

MM
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Height/weight/hand size/arm length/ last position played?
 
I still don't think Desean is out in the clear. Cooper's contract could still mean we don't pay him 12M+ the next few seasons.

 
ShaHBucks said:
I still don't think Desean is out in the clear. Cooper's contract could still mean we don't pay him 12M+ the next few seasons.
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I agree and it doubles if he starts squeaking. If they get Maclin on board and draft a WR that shows promise he may not be here next year IMO.

 
Bigboy10182000 said:
@ZBerm: The Chip-Howie dynamic is interesting. Howie said they need to be "tied at the hip." Cooper was a guy that Chip really valued.
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Something tells me we won't be seeing any more games being played like the Dawkins debacle. Joe Banner that ####### weasel. #### fat Andy Reid too.

 
@Aaron_Nagler: RT @TomPelissero: Im told the 2014 salary cap will be set as soon as tomorrow, most likely by Monday, and itll be $132M-$133M.

 
@caplannfl: As @Jeff_McLane noted last week, the #Eagles are expected to release WR Jason Avant before his $1 M roster bonus is due next month.

 
Mighty Mice said:
Dear Jeffrey, Howie, and Chip,

I want to make you all aware of my combine numbers. Would love to sit and meet with you.

40 - 5.3 (hand timed)

Bench - 17

Broad - 8'7"

Vertical - 31"

3 cone - 9.2

Wonderlic - 35

I'd also like to point out that I am a season ticket holder, section 209, row 19, seat 8. I could be ready at the drop of a hat. Great motor, intangibles.

Thank you for your consideration,

MM
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Are you older than 25 AND are you a firefighter? If you answered "yes" to both questions, Kansas City is definitely interested.

 
Interesting to hear that Maclin prefers a one year deal while the Eagles are trying to go longer. That is apparently the holdup in the Maclin signing.

Maclin, though, would take over his fair share. He and the Eagles have to agree on a contract first. He wants a one-year, "show me" contract so that he can prove he's back from the second torn anterior cruciate ligament of his career and get a sizable long-term deal.

The Eagles would prefer a two- or three-year contract at considerably less to avoid having him reach the open market a year from now. They have 11 days to work something out before Maclin hits free agency.
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http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/eagles/20140228_Versatile_Eagles_receivers_can_thrive_even_if_Avant_leaves.html#7geBrUwe8YFPF1hE.99

 
Billy Bats said:
Interesting to hear that Maclin prefers a one year deal while the Eagles are trying to go longer. That is apparently the holdup in the Maclin signing.

Maclin, though, would take over his fair share. He and the Eagles have to agree on a contract first. He wants a one-year, "show me" contract so that he can prove he's back from the second torn anterior cruciate ligament of his career and get a sizable long-term deal.

The Eagles would prefer a two- or three-year contract at considerably less to avoid having him reach the open market a year from now. They have 11 days to work something out before Maclin hits free agency.
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If that's the only issue you would think this gets done before FA starts. Honestly I dont know why the Eagles would want any more then a 1-year deal at this point. If he breaks out and becomes what many thought he would be when we took him in the first then you could always tag him.

 
Billy Bats said:
Interesting to hear that Maclin prefers a one year deal while the Eagles are trying to go longer. That is apparently the holdup in the Maclin signing.

Maclin, though, would take over his fair share. He and the Eagles have to agree on a contract first. He wants a one-year, "show me" contract so that he can prove he's back from the second torn anterior cruciate ligament of his career and get a sizable long-term deal.

The Eagles would prefer a two- or three-year contract at considerably less to avoid having him reach the open market a year from now. They have 11 days to work something out before Maclin hits free agency.
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Makes total sense. Players bet on themselves all the time.

 
Billy Bats said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
@ZBerm: The Chip-Howie dynamic is interesting. Howie said they need to be "tied at the hip." Cooper was a guy that Chip really valued.
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Something tells me we won't be seeing any more games being played like the Dawkins debacle. Joe Banner that ####### weasel. #### fat Andy Reid too.
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Harsh, Andy Reid did what for your franchise again? I would love those four straight NFC Championship games and a trip to the Super Bowl. A little respect for that is deserved. I hope that type of comment with the "who can compete with us" post above does not sum up all Eagles fans.

 
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Lock up Peters, Kelce: Check

Re-sign Cooper: Check

On the way to getting a deal done with Maclin: Check

Still $26 Million under the salary cap to selectively go after defensive players that fit our system in free agency: Check

While I don't always love the product on the field, the front office understands the salary cap and how to work it as good as any organization in the NFL

 
Bigboy10182000 said:
Billy Bats said:
Interesting to hear that Maclin prefers a one year deal while the Eagles are trying to go longer. That is apparently the holdup in the Maclin signing.

Maclin, though, would take over his fair share. He and the Eagles have to agree on a contract first. He wants a one-year, "show me" contract so that he can prove he's back from the second torn anterior cruciate ligament of his career and get a sizable long-term deal.

The Eagles would prefer a two- or three-year contract at considerably less to avoid having him reach the open market a year from now. They have 11 days to work something out before Maclin hits free agency.
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If that's the only issue you would think this gets done before FA starts. Honestly I dont know why the Eagles would want any more then a 1-year deal at this point. If he breaks out and becomes what many thought he would be when we took him in the first then you could always tag him.
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They could lock him up for substantially less then what he would get if they gave him a one year deal and he went bonkers. I'm guessing that's the thinking behind it. But I think that would be a very small hurdle to get across for resigning him.

 
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God I hope this offense stays healthier next season, I'm pumped to see what Chip can do with Maclinlikely now (re)added to the mix, plus a full season with Foles, and Lane Johnson likely improving his consistency. I think it's given that a high pick or a free agent signing will go towards safety. I would like to see another pas rusher added one way or another and also a corner drafted.

 
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I don't think we will be "healthier" next year, considering so few injuries incurred this past year. Just bc Mac was out for the year doesn't mean the team was not overall healthy. My hope is that Chip's sports science stuff is the reason behind that fact.

 
Buddy Ball 2K3 said:
Billy Bats said:
Interesting to hear that Maclin prefers a one year deal while the Eagles are trying to go longer. That is apparently the holdup in the Maclin signing.

Maclin, though, would take over his fair share. He and the Eagles have to agree on a contract first. He wants a one-year, "show me" contract so that he can prove he's back from the second torn anterior cruciate ligament of his career and get a sizable long-term deal.

The Eagles would prefer a two- or three-year contract at considerably less to avoid having him reach the open market a year from now. They have 11 days to work something out before Maclin hits free agency.
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Makes total sense. Players bet on themselves all the time.
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Yeah, but there are an awful lot of NFL players out there - WRs in particular - who'd be happy to coast into the longer-term deal and more guaranteed money, especially coming off a second ACL tear.

Hearing this tells me both that Maclin, who knows how his recovery's going better than anyone, thinks he's going to be back to 100%, and that he's all sorts of confident in his ability to be a difference-maker this season. Both of which make me :thumbup: .

 
I keep reading that Byrd will be franchised...wouldnt this be the second year in a row? I thought that wasnt allowd anymore, or is it 3x you cant do?

 
I think Maclin's camp knows he can make more money elsewhere this season. When you consider things like Net Present Value it makes sense to take what you can now instead of longer deal where you're being paid less than market value. If he was worried about re-injuring his knee, he could just take out an Lloyds of London insurance policy or something like it. I'd hold out as long as I could for 2-3M. I would even wait for a camp injury to drive my value up.

The Eagles are likely trying to offer a 2-3 year deal with most of the payments deffered on the backend while guaranteeing his salary this season, making him cuttable in years 2 and 3 if things don't work out(kind of like Cooper's deal). In a class that is supposed to be "deep" at WR, you can't overpay Maclin. A 2nd-3rd round rookie WR will cost >1M(just guessing where you'd take Maclin in this draft if fully healthy). Ted Ginn, Andre Roberts, Jacoby Ford, and Damian Williams could come cheaper as FA replacements. The Eagles could roll out a combination of 2-3 FA's and rookies to see what happends instead of resigning Maclin.

If Cooper got 1M garenteed, the Maclin negotiations has to be off by anywhere between 1-3M. I don't think they're even close. This was why I asked "what do you do with Maclin" awhile ago. You had to see if Cooper is really that good and Desean is locked up this season. He might just be the odd man out.

 
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Bigboy10182000 said:
I keep reading that Byrd will be franchised...wouldnt this be the second year in a row? I thought that wasnt allowd anymore, or is it 3x you cant do?
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He can be franchised again, but the Bills have to pay him 120% of his salary last year which would be 8.3M. To sign the guy to a long-term deal will probably cost 9-11M a year so I think the likelihood of him getting tagged is pretty good especially when you consider that Buffalo has a ton of cap space.

TJ Ward probably has a better chance of making it to FA than Byrd since Cleveland could use their tag on Mack.

 
According to Jason La Canfora, Dolphins are gauging the value of a trade for Dion Jordan. What about Brandon Graham and our 2nd rounder?

 
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Awful Waffle said:
According to Jason La Canfora, Dolphins are gauging the value of a trade for Dion Jordan. What about Brandon Graham and our 2nd rounder?
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As many of you know this is the top guy I wanted last year. If he truely is being shopped I would do Graham and a 2 in a heart beat. I'd even do the 1 straight up for him. Everyone knew he was coming off of the shoulder surgery and wouldnt be 100% until this year anyway.

I guess Miami is swicthing schemes?

 
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Awful Waffle said:
According to Jason La Canfora, Dolphins are gauging the value of a trade for Dion Jordan. What about Brandon Graham and our 2nd rounder?
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Rotoworld:

CBS Sports' Jason La Canfora reports the Dolphins are "gauging trade value" for 2013 No. 3 overall draft pick Dion Jordan.
In a deal made by ex-GM Jeff Ireland, Miami sent the Nos. 12 and 42 overall picks to Oakland during last year's draft to land Jordan at No. 3. Fins DC Kevin Coyle, who remains on staff, struggled to find a position fit for Jordan despite freakish athletic tools, as he only played 330 snaps on defense. Jordan's trade value after a disappointing rookie year is unclear, but his contract would be easy to fit under another team's salary cap, and he's a high-ceiling 24-year-old athlete. We suspect he could fetch a second-round pick, even if "giving up" on Jordan after one year would be a spectacular embarrassment to the franchise.

Source: Jason La Canfora on Twitter
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Eagles coach Chip Kelly stated after last year's draft that Philly "very heavily" considered selecting Dion Jordan with the No. 4 overall pick, until he was scooped up by Miami at No. 3.
The Fins likely knew of Kelly's interest -- Jordan played for him at Oregon -- and moved directly in front of the Eagles to nab him. "The guy that went No. 3, we were considering very heavily but didn’t get the chance to pull the trigger on that one," stated Kelly in a post-draft presser. This should fan the flames of Philly's already rumored interest in Jordan, whom CBS Sports reported Friday has essentially been placed on the trade block by Miami.

Related: Eagles

Source: Sheil Kapadia on Twitter
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Bigboy10182000 said:
Awful Waffle said:
According to Jason La Canfora, Dolphins are gauging the value of a trade for Dion Jordan. What about Brandon Graham and our 2nd rounder?
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As many of you know this is the top guy I wanted last year. If he truely is being shopped I would do Graham and a 2 in a heart beat. I'd even do the 1 straight up for him. Everyone knew he was coming off of the shoulder surgery and wouldnt be 100% until this year anyway.

I guess Miami is swicthing schemes?
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No, the problem is they're NOT switching schemes. They tried making him a 4-3 DE last year and that flopped. He needs to be a 3-4 OLB and the Dolphins don't run that.

 
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