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** Official 2014 Philadelphia Eagles Thread ** (1 Viewer)

I'm not convinced Maclin suddenly turns into a star either, the first 4 years of his career were set up perfectly for that to happen, and he never rose above solid #2 type numbers, and didn't seem to progress beyond what he did as a rookie.

Plus, I still think he's soft. Happy to be proved wrong though, just don't see guys in Year 6 suddenly doing things they haven't done before very often.
Maclin has had 3 years with more yardage than Reggie Wayne ever had through age 25 - and he never had Peyton Manning from day one like Wayne.

Wayne didn't have his breakout year until age 26, the same age Maclin turns in a couple of months.
Well if we're pulling random unrelated situations out of no where, Anquan boldin jumped out as a rookie and caught 101 passes for 1377 yds. He had 3 out if his first 4 years with 1200 yds or more. That was with no one at qb.
I'm certainly not discounting a healthy Maclin. Maclin IMO is irrelevant to the Desean Jackson conversation. It doesn't have to be Jackson OR Maclin. It can be Jackson AND Maclin.

Just heard Evan Mathis is on the trading block. dhockster, how did Mathis perform in the playoffs?
Relax, Snot. I already said I am not for cutting Jackson and that playoff performance is just one factor when evaluating a player. Sorry if my point about playoff performance struck a nerve. All I was trying to do was show another reason besides the off the field stuff and the tanking-a-season-because-I-am-not-getting-paid that might factor into him not being on the Eagles next year.

You think the Eagles are better with Jackson on the field next year no matter what else negative he brings to the team. I respect your opinion.

 
So they're shopping him but not getting offers they like.
I may be in the minority but I dont expect him dealt until draft day :shrug:
I can see that. They missed their first chance. Draft day is the last chance to get any value.
With the WR class being so deep you're going to have to wait to see who needs what IMO. If Carolina spend thier first 2 picks on WR's then there's really no good reason to give the 3rd pick up for Desean. I think the Jets owner let too much out of the bag IMO. Knowing they can have him for a 3rd lets them go in other directions for rounds 1 and 2 IMO.

I think we either get a 3 for a 4 & 5 for him.

 
Mathis has been granted permission to seak a trade.

It will be interesting to see what interest he gets. Aside from his age I wonder how he will fit in a different scheme.

 
Mathis has been granted permission to seak a trade.

It will be interesting to see what interest he gets. Aside from his age I wonder how he will fit in a different scheme.
Their saying the asking price for him is a 3rd rounder. If we get 2 extra 3rds for djax and mathis that would be nice, but seems like a long term move rather then a win now move. Maybe we are all spoiled from last year's unanticipated success and want to go for the title this year but maybe Chip has another "re build" year in him.

 
Mathis has been granted permission to seak a trade.

It will be interesting to see what interest he gets. Aside from his age I wonder how he will fit in a different scheme.
Their saying the asking price for him is a 3rd rounder. If we get 2 extra 3rds for djax and mathis that would be nice, but seems like a long term move rather then a win now move. Maybe we are all spoiled from last year's unanticipated success and want to go for the title this year but maybe Chip has another "re build" year in him.
This seems to have more to do with what Mathis has seen go on around him. We extended Herremans in 12, drafted Lane high, then gave deals to Peters and Kelce this off-season. In a way I understand his position. He is 32 though and I cant see a team giving up a high pick and a big deal to a guy who may or may not fit their scheme

 
I'm not convinced Maclin suddenly turns into a star either, the first 4 years of his career were set up perfectly for that to happen, and he never rose above solid #2 type numbers, and didn't seem to progress beyond what he did as a rookie.

Plus, I still think he's soft. Happy to be proved wrong though, just don't see guys in Year 6 suddenly doing things they haven't done before very often.
Maclin has had 3 years with more yardage than Reggie Wayne ever had through age 25 - and he never had Peyton Manning from day one like Wayne.

Wayne didn't have his breakout year until age 26, the same age Maclin turns in a couple of months.
Well if we're pulling random unrelated situations out of no where, Anquan boldin jumped out as a rookie and caught 101 passes for 1377 yds. He had 3 out if his first 4 years with 1200 yds or more. That was with no one at qb.
I'm certainly not discounting a healthy Maclin. Maclin IMO is irrelevant to the Desean Jackson conversation. It doesn't have to be Jackson OR Maclin. It can be Jackson AND Maclin.

Just heard Evan Mathis is on the trading block. dhockster, how did Mathis perform in the playoffs?
Relax, Snot. I already said I am not for cutting Jackson and that playoff performance is just one factor when evaluating a player. Sorry if my point about playoff performance struck a nerve. All I was trying to do was show another reason besides the off the field stuff and the tanking-a-season-because-I-am-not-getting-paid that might factor into him not being on the Eagles next year.

You think the Eagles are better with Jackson on the field next year no matter what else negative he brings to the team. I respect your opinion.
I didn't mean nothing by it, just bustin' your chops. We all want the same thing with this team.

 
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I'm not convinced Maclin suddenly turns into a star either, the first 4 years of his career were set up perfectly for that to happen, and he never rose above solid #2 type numbers, and didn't seem to progress beyond what he did as a rookie.

Plus, I still think he's soft. Happy to be proved wrong though, just don't see guys in Year 6 suddenly doing things they haven't done before very often.
Maclin has had 3 years with more yardage than Reggie Wayne ever had through age 25 - and he never had Peyton Manning from day one like Wayne.

Wayne didn't have his breakout year until age 26, the same age Maclin turns in a couple of months.
Well if we're pulling random unrelated situations out of no where, Anquan boldin jumped out as a rookie and caught 101 passes for 1377 yds. He had 3 out if his first 4 years with 1200 yds or more. That was with no one at qb.
I'm certainly not discounting a healthy Maclin. Maclin IMO is irrelevant to the Desean Jackson conversation. It doesn't have to be Jackson OR Maclin. It can be Jackson AND Maclin.

Just heard Evan Mathis is on the trading block. dhockster, how did Mathis perform in the playoffs?
Relax, Snot. I already said I am not for cutting Jackson and that playoff performance is just one factor when evaluating a player. Sorry if my point about playoff performance struck a nerve. All I was trying to do was show another reason besides the off the field stuff and the tanking-a-season-because-I-am-not-getting-paid that might factor into him not being on the Eagles next year.

You think the Eagles are better with Jackson on the field next year no matter what else negative he brings to the team. I respect your opinion.
I didn't mean nothing by it, just bustin' your chops. We all want the same thing with this team.
Agreed. I keep telling people that the Eagles will never win a super bowl in my lifetime in hopes that I can outwit the football Gods with reverse psychology.

 
Mathis has been granted permission to seak a trade.

It will be interesting to see what interest he gets. Aside from his age I wonder how he will fit in a different scheme.
Their saying the asking price for him is a 3rd rounder. If we get 2 extra 3rds for djax and mathis that would be nice, but seems like a long term move rather then a win now move. Maybe we are all spoiled from last year's unanticipated success and want to go for the title this year but maybe Chip has another "re build" year in him.
This seems to have more to do with what Mathis has seen go on around him. We extended Herremans in 12, drafted Lane high, then gave deals to Peters and Kelce this off-season. In a way I understand his position. He is 32 though and I cant see a team giving up a high pick and a big deal to a guy who may or may not fit their scheme
True. I'm hoping this (and djax) end up in a 'ok fine you're on the market... hmmm no takers, maybe you're not worth as much as you think and should stay and be happy" situations and we get them both next year for a title run.

 
@LesBowen: Nope. I'd guess medicals today/tomorrow, announced end week? RT @RickyReturnsLOL: @LesBowen @DraftDiamonds have the Eagles signed Sanchez?

 
@GeoffMosherCSN: Updated DeSean story w/more Chip. Why'd he wait till this week to call DeSean? "I don't have an answer for that." http://t.co/8b9OJxKLnt

ORLANDO, Fla. -- Simple question, Chip.

Do you want DeSean on the team?

His answer? Not so simple.

I like DeSean, Eagles coach Chip Kelly said Wednesday morning. DeSean did a really nice job for us. But were always going to do whats best for the organization.

Let the wheels of interpretation spin.

Kelly was the centerpiece of a crowded breakfast roundtable with reporters at the NFL owners meetings, surrounded by local and national media for an hour-long session.

Many of the questions centered on the Pro Bowl wideouts uncertain future with the organization. Kelly made several positive comments about Jackson but didnt slam-dunk state with authority that Jackson would be on the Eagles in 2014.

And he was given plenty of opportunities.

Ive talked to DeSean and I just think when you deal with situations like that, everything we do is player-to-player, player-to-coach, Kelly said. We had a good conversation and were always going to do whats best for the football team, and he knows where we are and I know where he is.

Which is a roundabout way of saying nothing concretely about an awkward situation that has festered for weeks. Kelly said he spoke to Jackson just a couple of days ago, even though Jacksons name has swirled in the trade rumor mill for more than 10 days.

Did he confirm to Jackson that the rumors and reports were utter nonsense?

My conversation with DeSean is between myself and DeSean, Kelly said.

Jackson isnt the only Eagle whose future with the team is suddenly under the microscope. A league source confirmed that left guard Evan Mathis would like his contract redone to make more money.

Earlier, the NFL Network reported that the Eagles were gauging Mathis trade value.

Kelly said he doesnt expect Mathis to cause distractions this season and vehemently backed the veteran guard as one of the teams hardest workers and most valuable assets.

Kelly also seemed sympathetic to NFL players who ask for pay hikes in the middle of contracts.

I think everybody wants to get paid a ton of money, he said. I think thats just the nature of what our league is like. In professional sports theres a short amount of time that guys get to play this game and theyre trying to get what they can and I certainly understand where theyre coming from.

Kelly didn't every Jackson-related question vaguely. He said he "got a long well" with the three-time Pro Bowl wideout in their first season together. He dismissed any suggestion that Jackson's social media exploits bothered him. He even denied that Jackson, who enters Year 3 of a five-year extension, lobbied for more money less than two days after the team's first-round playoff loss, even though Jackson told several waves of reporters that day that he a new deal was deserving.

"He didn't ask for a new contract," Kelly said. "DeSean never came to me or never came to anybody, Howie or anybody, and said I want a new contract."

But when responding to very specific questions about Jackson's standing with the team, Kelly switched into equivocation mode, talking in circles or directly avoiding the inquiry. When asked point blank if he expected Jackson to be on the roster April 21 for the start of the team's offseason program, Kelly never mentioned the receiver by name.

"I don't anticipate anybody being on the roster at that point, or I anticipate them all being on the roster," he said. "I don't predict the future. We get rolling on April 21 and we'll get going."

The big question is why Kelly waited until this week to contact Jackson when reports surfaced earlier this month that Jackson's days with the Eagles were fleeting.

"Obviously, there were a million reports out there," he said, "so I said Id rather have him come to me than read it in the paper."

But if the reports were weeks old, why did Kelly wait until a few days before Wednesday's press conference to reach out?

Said the coach: "I dont have an answer for that."
 
Don't know if I've mentioned before but I want to thank bigboy for posting all these tweets of info in the thread here. Saves me a lot of time having to go look for them.

 
Bigboy10182000 said:
Deamon said:
Bigboy10182000 said:
Mathis has been granted permission to seak a trade.

It will be interesting to see what interest he gets. Aside from his age I wonder how he will fit in a different scheme.
Their saying the asking price for him is a 3rd rounder. If we get 2 extra 3rds for djax and mathis that would be nice, but seems like a long term move rather then a win now move. Maybe we are all spoiled from last year's unanticipated success and want to go for the title this year but maybe Chip has another "re build" year in him.
This seems to have more to do with what Mathis has seen go on around him. We extended Herremans in 12, drafted Lane high, then gave deals to Peters and Kelce this off-season. In a way I understand his position. He is 32 though and I cant see a team giving up a high pick and a big deal to a guy who may or may not fit their scheme
Mathis probably sees this as his last chance to cash in, but I think there's no chance anyone will pay him significantly more than what he's due to get in his current contract, plus trade a 3rd (seems to be the asking price). Mathis isn't really underpaid. He's played very well, but is older and probably doesn't fit the majority of schemes around the league. He'd kicked around the league as a nobody for 6 years before signing here. The Eagles gave him a fair contract I think after 2011 and it has 3 years to run.

I think his two choices are play out his deal or be a #### and force his way out but I think then he'd end up worse off than he is now.

 
I actually think there's a fair chance Jackson will be back now, as there doesn't seem to be much value on offer for him. Other teams seem a bit spooked as to why he's available after the great year he had. I'd always thought they'd draft a WR relatively high this year (Rd 1-3 say) and trade/cut him after this season, maybe next at the ouside.

Jackson, or someone like him is important to this scheme, there's no spread if you can over all our WRs 1:1

 
Way too much discounting a healthy Maclin as a talent on the boards
How so? Maclin has shown he's good for 65/850/8 type numbers, and that's with an elite deep threat opposite him. Expecting anything better is reaching. He has more talent than that and he might come to life and fulfill that potential, but expecting veteran players to suddenly outperform their mean is more like wishing than planning.

I like Jackson, Maclin and Cooper as a group but Maclin, Cooper and Ertz/Rookie/Benn/StreetFA is a lot less appealing.
Was thinking about this after, and this might be why it went down the 1 year deal path. The Eagles probably wanted to pay Maclin long term like a #2 which is what he's shown so far. Maclin is probably in the "Maclin will break out in 2014" camp.

 
@GeoffMosherCSN: RT @RoobCSN: Mark Sanchez physical will be tomorrow morning. If everything goes well and shoulder looks good, Eagles will sign him.

@RapSheet: Former Jets QB Mark Sanchez is in Philly tonight, source says (as @MMehtaNYDN & @BrianCoz said). Expect a deal soon if his shoulder gets OK

 
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@GeoffMosherCSN: RT @RoobCSN: Mark Sanchez physical will be tomorrow morning. If everything goes well and shoulder looks good, Eagles will sign him.

@RapSheet: Former Jets QB Mark Sanchez is in Philly tonight, source says (as @MMehtaNYDN & @BrianCoz said). Expect a deal soon if his shoulder gets OK
The Onion's great

Seriously though, this would be a solid move. He'd have to come pretty cheap and it would be the first time in his career he's had competent offensive coaching. I'm not sold on Barkley, Sanchez could be a good backup for a few years.

 
@GeoffMosherCSN: RT @RoobCSN: Mark Sanchez physical will be tomorrow morning. If everything goes well and shoulder looks good, Eagles will sign him.

@RapSheet: Former Jets QB Mark Sanchez is in Philly tonight, source says (as @MMehtaNYDN & @BrianCoz said). Expect a deal soon if his shoulder gets OK
The Onion's great

Seriously though, this would be a solid move. He'd have to come pretty cheap and it would be the first time in his career he's had competent offensive coaching. I'm not sold on Barkley, Sanchez could be a good backup for a few years.
@howardeskin: I'm also told former #Jets QB Mark Sanchez throwing better now than before his injury. @eagles feel Physical is formality

 
There's a lot to like about it IMO. You'd like to think the talents there and if he has to play 2-3 games I feel he could do well. It's a win-win imo

 
You guys serious? Sanchez sucks.

Desean is as good as gone. So stupid.

And it makes me sick that they're so damn quick to say no, you don't get more money now you're getting traded. Now Mathis is going probably too. Thats all this is, all about money and the cap. ####### disgusting.

 
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You guys serious? Sanchez sucks.

Desean is as good as gone. So stupid.

And it makes me sick that they're so damn quick to say no, you don't get more money now you're getting traded. Now Mathis is going probably too. Thats all this is, all about money and the cap. ####### disgusting.
Mathis said he wanted a new deal (he's making 5+ this year which isn't bad money) so we said he could seek a trade. Pretty much what that does is let him see what market is out there for a 32 year old guard who wants a new big money deal. He'll be back.**ETA**

As far as Sanchez I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. The Jets offense was nothing special and he's just a back-up here. I think we can all agree we'd prefer him over Barkely so it's a nice addition even though he may never see a snap.

 
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You guys serious? Sanchez sucks.

Desean is as good as gone. So stupid.

And it makes me sick that they're so damn quick to say no, you don't get more money now you're getting traded. Now Mathis is going probably too. Thats all this is, all about money and the cap. ####### disgusting.
I don't think Mathis is going anywhere. He and his agent will find out nobody's going to pay him more than he's making now and he'll stay. The "you can seek a trade" thing is about giving guys a reality check on what their market value is.

Hard to say the Eagles have done anything but screw the pooch with the Jackson situation, but Mathis I think they're handling OK. He might be getting the message, based on this Instagram post

 
You guys serious? Sanchez sucks.

Desean is as good as gone. So stupid.

And it makes me sick that they're so damn quick to say no, you don't get more money now you're getting traded. Now Mathis is going probably too. Thats all this is, all about money and the cap. ####### disgusting.
Ahhhh, I had almost missed your over-the-top, unwarranted negativity towards the eagles. Nice to see it back.

 
You guys serious? Sanchez sucks.

Desean is as good as gone. So stupid.

And it makes me sick that they're so damn quick to say no, you don't get more money now you're getting traded. Now Mathis is going probably too. Thats all this is, all about money and the cap. ####### disgusting.
I don't think Mathis is going anywhere. He and his agent will find out nobody's going to pay him more than he's making now and he'll stay. The "you can seek a trade" thing is about giving guys a reality check on what their market value is.

Hard to say the Eagles have done anything but screw the pooch with the Jackson situation, but Mathis I think they're handling OK. He might be getting the message, based on this Instagram post
The fact that he is the second year of a 5 year deal is the biggest thing. The can't just rip up everyone's contract every year.

 
You guys serious? Sanchez sucks.

Desean is as good as gone. So stupid.

And it makes me sick that they're so damn quick to say no, you don't get more money now you're getting traded. Now Mathis is going probably too. Thats all this is, all about money and the cap. ####### disgusting.
Ahhhh, I had almost missed your over-the-top, unwarranted negativity towards the eagles. Nice to see it back.
Unwarranted huh? My bad, here's my new attitude just for you, 'cause god forbid Eagles do nothing wrong and opinions are bad!!!

Sing along with me!!

 
You guys are right, it's just annoying to hear "oh you want more money, you're out". Always concerned with money first, team second it seems. Everyone was quick to hate on Banner for it, but it seems it an organizational philosophy. Just not an attitude I can appreciate all the time, especially when it's with your best players on offense.

 
You guys are right, it's just annoying to hear "oh you want more money, you're out". Always concerned with money first, team second it seems. Everyone was quick to hate on Banner for it, but it seems it an organizational philosophy. Just not an attitude I can appreciate all the time, especially when it's with your best players on offense.
I dont think its a "you're out" mentality. I think its more like, hey we just signed you to a deal, you got all of the up front money and now that you are missing that $ you want a new deal. Well tell you what, go find a team that will pay you more than us and we will be happy to trade you to them. Good luck with that.

 
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You guys are right, it's just annoying to hear "oh you want more money, you're out". Always concerned with money first, team second it seems. Everyone was quick to hate on Banner for it, but it seems it an organizational philosophy. Just not an attitude I can appreciate all the time, especially when it's with your best players on offense.
FWIW, The only place I hear this is sports talk radio and I expect that from them.

We shelled out new money to 5 players on offense this season (Cooper, Maclin, Peters, Kelce and Sproles)...you cant pay everyone. In Deseans case he has some nerve to even ask for ore money when we got all of his bonus ANNNND is making 10+ million for this season. I can understand Mathis for reason I mentioned above but he's not even making bad money this year.

 
You guys serious? Sanchez sucks.

Desean is as good as gone. So stupid.

And it makes me sick that they're so damn quick to say no, you don't get more money now you're getting traded. Now Mathis is going probably too. Thats all this is, all about money and the cap. ####### disgusting.
I don't think Mathis is going anywhere. He and his agent will find out nobody's going to pay him more than he's making now and he'll stay. The "you can seek a trade" thing is about giving guys a reality check on what their market value is.

Hard to say the Eagles have done anything but screw the pooch with the Jackson situation, but Mathis I think they're handling OK. He might be getting the message, based on this Instagram post
I hope you're right but another owner might move the same money around differently with more upfront and more guaranteed, etc.

 
It is much more on the player than the team. The team can't just rip up every contract when a player says they're unhappy. But they also don't just say pound sand, shut up and play or holdout. They give the player a bone and let him set his own market with necessary compensation coming back to the Eagles if he chooses to depart. Can't see how that's not fair.

 
Jeff Lurie is a pragmatic, prepared and cautious owner. We are just a few years into the new CBA, and still not sure how much/when he will have to pay for a franchise QB. I really like the moves they have made, and if giving Mathis a raise wasn't in the plans (as it should not have been), I have no problem with the way they are handling him. Just a wild guess, but I would guess Mathis is a little more mature than Desean and probably took it better. We still have to spend 89% of the cap, so some extensions could still be coming downstream.

 
One theory that I had written off is now making more sense. What was the one odd thing that happened to Desean between the playoff game and now. His house being robbed. Perhaps the Eagles caught wind of something worse going on there (insurance fraud for example) and were quietly trying to distance themselves without saying anything due to the investigation. This would also explain why Desean has been fairly positive in his commentary and not firing knee jerk expletives at the Eagles FO. He knows he might be screwed and doesn't want to damage his image for a new team.

It's another wild theory but it's starting to make more sense since that really is the only thing that we know happened outside of football this offseason.

 
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Jimmy Kempski posted or tweeted something today (can't remember which). Evan Mathis is the oldest guard in the league. Literally, the oldest guard currently on an NFL roster.

a) Wow.

b) He's not getting more than $5 million/year from anyone else.

ETA: Link

 
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Jeff Lurie is a pragmatic, prepared and cautious owner. We are just a few years into the new CBA, and still not sure how much/when he will have to pay for a franchise QB. I really like the moves they have made, and if giving Mathis a raise wasn't in the plans (as it should not have been), I have no problem with the way they are handling him. Just a wild guess, but I would guess Mathis is a little more mature than Desean and probably took it better. We still have to spend 89% of the cap, so some extensions could still be coming downstream.
Some guys who could be cap casualties next offseason:

Desean Jackson: saves 8M (if he isn't gone this offseason)

Trent Cole: saves 8.4M

Cary Williams: saves 6.5M

James Casey: saves 4M

Demeco Ryans: saves 6.9M

Brent Celek: saves 4.8M

Of that group, Jackson, Cole and Casey are probably definite goners. But the Eagles have some interesting decision to make financially. Foles really is the key.

 
It is much more on the player than the team. The team can't just rip up every contract when a player says they're unhappy. But they also don't just say pound sand, shut up and play or holdout. They give the player a bone and let him set his own market with necessary compensation coming back to the Eagles if he chooses to depart. Can't see how that's not fair.
:goodposting:

 
@SheilKapadia: Kelly expected to check out Manziel and Evans today. Here he explains why he finds Pro Days valuable: http://t.co/bvpUuzkybF

Eagles general manager Howie Roseman and team president Don Smolenski were on the same flight out of Orlando yesterday, both headed back home to Philadelphia.

Chip Kelly, however, said he was going on the road. And it looks like hell be attending yet another Pro Day:

This will be Texas A&M's second Pro Day. Per reports, the only participants will be Johnny Manziel and wide receiver Mike Evans.

Kelly has attended several Pro Days this offseason. Sometimes, he's the only NFL head coach in attendance. So why does the Eagles' head coach think it's important to see the prospects up-close?

"I just think its another tool in your toolbox," Kelly said. "Its an opportunity to go see guys work. Its similar to the combine in a way, but I think the combines a little bit more generic in terms of what they do. You can certainly tailor drills specifically in that if youre trying to see something. Just another evaluation. Its not any more or any less, but I think for me if the opportunitys there to go see him work out one more time and do something in front of people, then why wouldnt you go see him do that? I dont think it can hurt you to have too much information on somebody."

Kelly added that it's a chance to get to know the prospects on a personal level and presents a more comfortable environment than the combine.

"You get a chance to visit with him and talk to him, see him in different settings," Kelly said. "And then also visit and talk with their coaches and trainers and other people that have been around the young man for four, five years. I think sometimes when you really analyze what goes on at the combine, thats kind of difficult for those guys. Theyre thrown in for three straight days and theyre marching around in their underwear, people are staring at them, poking and prodding at them, asking a million questions. You get a 15-minute interview as your chance to talk to them.

"I think sometimes when you can get em back onto their campus and get a chance to see them in their environment, you get a better understanding of what theyre like as a player and a better feel for kind of who they are. So when youre making your decisions, youre making educated decisions, not just going, What about this guy? I dont know. I never met him. Itd be really tough for me to weigh in and say, Weve gotta draft this guy... and jump on the table for him. Based on what? I watched six games and somebody in a report said he was a good kid? Id rather be a little bit more hands-on where I can weigh in when were having those discussions about the draft of how I feel about the player. But its hard for me to weigh in if Ive never seen him or talked to him."
 
@LesBowen: Eagles Notebook: Kelly praises Foles, thinks Eagles QB can get even better http://t.co/OeztzKGqWT via @phillydotcom

ORLANDO, Fla. - Chip Kelly has talked to at least one offensive star this week who isn't DeSean Jackson, Kelly said yesterday.

The Eagles coach said he spoke 2 days earlier with quarterback Nick Foles. Remember him? Twenty-seven touchdown passes, two interceptions? Back before free-agent safety mania, back before the Jackson trade intrigue surfaced, Foles' status and potential were topic No. 1 in Birdland. At some point, Foles will again dominate the spotlight, as he returns for his third NFL season, his first as the acknowledged starter, with his photo now hanging in the NovaCare corridor lined by Eagles Pro Bowlers.

"Now, it's the intricacies of it," Kelly said, when asked about Foles' development. "Exactly what is my footwork? How is my ballhandling? How can I do a better job when I don't have the ball, how can I do a better job faking? What can I do . . . to influence the coverage, how can I move the safety, because I really want to throw the post. Instead of just going, 'Hey, the safety's on the post, I gotta throw the checkdown.' . . . That's the one thing about Nick that's so encouraging is, he always wants to get better. I think he improved as the season went along. A lot of times, you'll see some players kind of plateau, but I think he continued to improve."

Foles loses a mentor in Michael Vick, who signed with the Jets. Indications are he'll be backed up this season by former Jets starter Mark Sanchez, 27, who apparently will get his surgically repaired right shoulder checked out by the Eagles' medical staff no later than today. The Eagles' traveling party returned from the NFL meetings yesterday, so the necessary formalities should be completed by the end of the week.
 
My only issue with Sanchez is that mentally he's obviously OK with being a backup QB now. I'm guessing he lost his confidence along the way in NY compared to the the personality I remember on "Hard Knocks." The media took him for a ride once the Jets went south. He was the scapegoat. Between that and coming off of a season ending shoulder injury I can only imagine where his head is. He is one of the top-32 QBs in this league FWIW. He can start for Cle, Jac or Oak, for example, but he's taking the David Carr, Mattt Lienart rout like he doesnt want to be exposed any longer so let me start being smart with my last few NFL checks. It beats selling insurance I guess. Maybe he actually believes or is being told he is better than Nick Foles? At best he has a Josh McCown like season and gets paid next year? Idk.

Another hi-5 to the FO for being one step ahead of everyone else. Now we have 2 USC QBs. I still hope we get another young QB to compete w/Barkley for a roster spot. If the season ever came down to that guy we can forget about it. Sanchez almost made it to 2 SB. I can respect that, if the season was in his hands we might just limp to the promise land.

 
My only issue with Sanchez is that mentally he's obviously OK with being a backup QB now. I'm guessing he lost his confidence along the way in NY compared to the the personality I remember on "Hard Knocks." The media took him for a ride once the Jets went south. He was the scapegoat. Between that and coming off of a season ending shoulder injury I can only imagine where his head is. He is one of the top-32 QBs in this league FWIW. He can start for Cle, Jac or Oak, for example, but he's taking the David Carr, Mattt Lienart rout like he doesnt want to be exposed any longer so let me start being smart with my last few NFL checks. It beats selling insurance I guess. Maybe he actually believes or is being told he is better than Nick Foles? At best he has a Josh McCown like season and gets paid next year? Idk.

Another hi-5 to the FO for being one step ahead of everyone else. Now we have 2 USC QBs. I still hope we get another young QB to compete w/Barkley for a roster spot. If the season ever came down to that guy we can forget about it. Sanchez almost made it to 2 SB. I can respect that, if the season was in his hands we might just limp to the promise land.
That's all I wanted addressed for the position this off season. A competent backup for a reasonable price that has a chance to win 2-3 games should Foles go down. Sanchez has talent and I don't blame him for being a bit gunshy after New York. Time to regroup, get back to basics and out of the spot light. He can gain his confidence back and take a shot at starting again in a year or 2.Plus this means zero chance for Manziel et al.

 
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@LesBowen: Eagles Notebook: Kelly praises Foles, thinks Eagles QB can get even better http://t.co/OeztzKGqWT via @phillydotcom

ORLANDO, Fla. - Chip Kelly has talked to at least one offensive star this week who isn't DeSean Jackson, Kelly said yesterday.

The Eagles coach said he spoke 2 days earlier with quarterback Nick Foles. Remember him? Twenty-seven touchdown passes, two interceptions? Back before free-agent safety mania, back before the Jackson trade intrigue surfaced, Foles' status and potential were topic No. 1 in Birdland. At some point, Foles will again dominate the spotlight, as he returns for his third NFL season, his first as the acknowledged starter, with his photo now hanging in the NovaCare corridor lined by Eagles Pro Bowlers.

"Now, it's the intricacies of it," Kelly said, when asked about Foles' development. "Exactly what is my footwork? How is my ballhandling? How can I do a better job when I don't have the ball, how can I do a better job faking? What can I do . . . to influence the coverage, how can I move the safety, because I really want to throw the post. Instead of just going, 'Hey, the safety's on the post, I gotta throw the checkdown.' . . . That's the one thing about Nick that's so encouraging is, he always wants to get better. I think he improved as the season went along. A lot of times, you'll see some players kind of plateau, but I think he continued to improve."

Foles loses a mentor in Michael Vick, who signed with the Jets. Indications are he'll be backed up this season by former Jets starter Mark Sanchez, 27, who apparently will get his surgically repaired right shoulder checked out by the Eagles' medical staff no later than today. The Eagles' traveling party returned from the NFL meetings yesterday, so the necessary formalities should be completed by the end of the week.
It's about time they started giving Foles his props.
I agree. These are the stories IMO that often get overlooked (especially given the latest news on Desean and now Mathis) but tend to be the most valuable.

 

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