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I'd be OK with this. I'd beSal Pal was on air throwing around the Eagles are burning up the phone lines, trying to move up to get
Mike Evans.
if they moved up just a little to get Odell Beckham. Biiig fan.Yeah but he was saying it would take this year's 1 & 2 plus next year's 1 (and maybe more) to up high enough. They may have to get as high as 7 if I heard him right. Don't know if I'd want to give up next year's picks for a WR in a WR-rich draft.Sal Pal was on air throwing around that the Eagles are burning up the phone lines, trying everything to move up to get.....
Mike Evans.
Well IF they move up (and give up a lot) I'd rather it be for the WR and not Manziel. I hate that I'm even discussing these things as I feel its all hot air. Can't wait till Thursday and see what happens!Thanks for adding additional info AD, had a hard time comprehending everything with the ol' bag bending my ear next to me.
Yea it didn't sound realistic, but a nice change of pace from the JF nonsense.
I agree with this. You look at what Cooper did as a 5th round pick in the Eagles offense and you got to think Chip feels like he can get a productive wr later in the draft if that player fits the Kelly wr mold. I think if they move up, it is for Barr. The fact that he is a pac-10 guy never hurts either with Chip. With all the Jordan trade speculation, and the fact that we almost drafted him last year, pass rusher is obviosly a coveted position. You also had Roseman saying you have to get a pass rusher early because there will be none left in the middle rounds but there are wr prospects throughout the draft. Two more days and we find out.
Good points. HaHa or Barr are two on my list of like 4 that I want them to take in the first. Otherwise trade back.
I agree with this as well. Having to give up multiple high picks to replace a guy who was already on your roster is bad football. I did not like the Jackson move but if Kelly feels like he can get wr talent all over the draft, then fine. It's a strategy. To give up a king's ransom to draft a guy who, if he pans out, might only be able to match Jackson's numbers is dumb. We lost to the Saints because of bad special teams and the inability to stop their O when it mattered.
I think Kelly is running the show now. They cut a guy who they just gave a big contract to after a career year.(same GM) Complete reversal. Small chance I would say on Manziel, but Kelly did not draft Foles, and Vick got the job after training camp.
There's too much talk radio in NMB's reply.
Zero chance Manziel is here. There's only a small chance we even draft a QB this draft after adding Sanchez.
If they all have to be on the same page as they've suggested than they hold. If it's that big a deal than Jeff Lurie and/ or Tom Gamble would more then likely be brought into the equation as well.
You muct have been driving home the same time as me yesterday
Yeah sounds like we were all driving home between 5:15 and 5:30 yesterday. And I agree with what you say about Evans. I don't want to see a big move either, but IF it happens I'm fine with him. Would definitely prefer they stay at 22 and take BPA. Or move up a few spots if someone's sliding, like Barr if he's somehow still on the board in the mid-teens.Bigboy10182000 said:You muct have been driving home the same time as me yesterdayNone_More_Black said:
FYI, I would not like the trade if they did it, however, IF Evans pans and is what people think he would eclipse almost all of Jackson's numbers within his first 2 seasons. They're not the same player at all.
IF they traded up, I'd actually rather it be for Barr. Pass rushing OLB is a much bigger need.Yeah sounds like we were all driving home between 5:15 and 5:30 yesterday. And I agree with what you say about Evans. I don't want to see a big move either, but IF it happens I'm fine with him. Would definitely prefer they stay at 22 and take BPA. Or move up a few spots if someone's sliding, like Barr if he's somehow still on the board in the mid-teens.Bigboy10182000 said:You muct have been driving home the same time as me yesterdayNone_More_Black said:
FYI, I would not like the trade if they did it, however, IF Evans pans and is what people think he would eclipse almost all of Jackson's numbers within his first 2 seasons. They're not the same player at all.
Agreed. If they're going to do a deal like Sal Pal was saying you have to come away with Clowney, Mack or Barr.IF they traded up, I'd actually rather it be for Barr. Pass rushing OLB is a much bigger need.Yeah sounds like we were all driving home between 5:15 and 5:30 yesterday. And I agree with what you say about Evans. I don't want to see a big move either, but IF it happens I'm fine with him. Would definitely prefer they stay at 22 and take BPA. Or move up a few spots if someone's sliding, like Barr if he's somehow still on the board in the mid-teens.Bigboy10182000 said:You muct have been driving home the same time as me yesterdayNone_More_Black said:
FYI, I would not like the trade if they did it, however, IF Evans pans and is what people think he would eclipse almost all of Jackson's numbers within his first 2 seasons. They're not the same player at all.
The thing that sucks is that I can't seem to shake the feeling Dallas somehow gets Barr. Probably trade up with TEN or BUF.Agreed. If they're going to do a deal like Sal Pal was saying you have to come away with Clowney, Mack or Barr.IF they traded up, I'd actually rather it be for Barr. Pass rushing OLB is a much bigger need.Yeah sounds like we were all driving home between 5:15 and 5:30 yesterday. And I agree with what you say about Evans. I don't want to see a big move either, but IF it happens I'm fine with him. Would definitely prefer they stay at 22 and take BPA. Or move up a few spots if someone's sliding, like Barr if he's somehow still on the board in the mid-teens.Bigboy10182000 said:You muct have been driving home the same time as me yesterdayNone_More_Black said:
FYI, I would not like the trade if they did it, however, IF Evans pans and is what people think he would eclipse almost all of Jackson's numbers within his first 2 seasons. They're not the same player at all.
I cant see him falling past the Vikings (Lost Allen), Bills (could use someone opposite Mario), Lions (One of the worst pass rushes in the NFL last season) or Titans (who I believe are switching to a 3-4). If everyone is on the same page that Clowney, Mack and Barr are the only legit pass-rushers in this group than you can't pass on him in that spot with Mack and Clowney most likely being gone.The thing that sucks is that I can't seem to shake the feeling Dallas somehow gets Barr. Probably trade up with TEN or BUF.Agreed. If they're going to do a deal like Sal Pal was saying you have to come away with Clowney, Mack or Barr.IF they traded up, I'd actually rather it be for Barr. Pass rushing OLB is a much bigger need.Yeah sounds like we were all driving home between 5:15 and 5:30 yesterday. And I agree with what you say about Evans. I don't want to see a big move either, but IF it happens I'm fine with him. Would definitely prefer they stay at 22 and take BPA. Or move up a few spots if someone's sliding, like Barr if he's somehow still on the board in the mid-teens.Bigboy10182000 said:You muct have been driving home the same time as me yesterdayNone_More_Black said:
FYI, I would not like the trade if they did it, however, IF Evans pans and is what people think he would eclipse almost all of Jackson's numbers within his first 2 seasons. They're not the same player at all.
I've heard Donald is a lock to MIN if he's there. The Bills could certainly take him, but I think they've looking to deal down. DET has bigger fish to fry. They'd be nuts to pass on Lewan IMO. CB is a bigger need as well.I cant see him falling past the Vikings (Lost Allen), Bills (could use someone opposite Mario), Lions (One of the worst pass rushes in the NFL last season) or Titans (who I believe are switching to a 3-4). If everyone is on the same page that Clowney, Mack and Barr are the only legit pass-rushers in this group than you can't pass on him in that spot with Mack and Clowney most likely being gone.The thing that sucks is that I can't seem to shake the feeling Dallas somehow gets Barr. Probably trade up with TEN or BUF.Agreed. If they're going to do a deal like Sal Pal was saying you have to come away with Clowney, Mack or Barr.IF they traded up, I'd actually rather it be for Barr. Pass rushing OLB is a much bigger need.Yeah sounds like we were all driving home between 5:15 and 5:30 yesterday. And I agree with what you say about Evans. I don't want to see a big move either, but IF it happens I'm fine with him. Would definitely prefer they stay at 22 and take BPA. Or move up a few spots if someone's sliding, like Barr if he's somehow still on the board in the mid-teens.Bigboy10182000 said:You muct have been driving home the same time as me yesterdayNone_More_Black said:
FYI, I would not like the trade if they did it, however, IF Evans pans and is what people think he would eclipse almost all of Jackson's numbers within his first 2 seasons. They're not the same player at all.
I liked your previous post DH but I truly hope this doesn't come true.
It very well could shake down that way. I was just looking at possibilities for each team and they all seemed to have (IMO anyway) a pass-rushing need. I actually think all 3 of the OT's go before Detroit picks anyway. That's always a position that gets eaten up pretty fast and every team before Detroit has that need.
Insein said:
This is what I've been thinking all along. There's no way we are telegraphing what we are going to do. IF we wanted to move up to get a player, you put some misdirection 
out there - let everything think you are planning one thing so your competition for the REAL player you are after goes down. No way we move up for either a QB nor a WR, there are just too many options which Chip can almost plug in interchangeably. But defense is our weakness and the front office knows it. Pass rusher is a glaring weakness so it would be worth it to give a up an extra pick, maybe two, to go and get the guy you think is best. All this 'phone tag' which is said to be going on is obviously 'feeling out' other teams. You are not going to get any information on what THEY are going to do, but you are going to get information on how they feel about YOU as a trade partner. I honestly think that's what is going on.
I'd absolutely love to get Barr (or Evans for that matter), but I wouldn't want to trade up more than 8-10 spots to make either one happen. There's too much talent at too many positions in this draft for the Eagles to be throwing away 2nd- and 3rd-rounders.
I wouldn't really be a fan of this unless you're not moving back far (25-28'ish) or getting a future 1 from a team like the Jags. There HAS to be a player that helps us at 22 IMO. Either stay or go up if anything.
I'd be happy with a trade down to the bottom of the 1st if it nets us a late-2nd / early-3rd. Honestly, if the top 4 WRs, the top 3 CBs, and Clinton-Dix are off the board at 22, I hope they do trade down rather than reach for a guy at a need position. WR and OLB in particular are way, way too deep this year for me to "settle" for a guy at #22.
I won't be mad if they have take OL, NT or ILB there either. Honestly, unless they take a QB or RB at 22 I won't be mad or disappointed
I envision one of the QBs sliding and a team like Houston getting antsy and trading up with Philly.
Ha Ha us a solid pick but my impression taken was that Barr fell to 20, well within a reasonably priced trade up to get him.
I like Cody Latimer. Maybe we can even trade down a few spots and pick up a third or a fourth.
With the exception of a Barr or Fuller or Dix sliding to 22, a trade down is the best play. My rooting interest as I watch tomorrow is divided between a hope that one of those players are there at 22 and a slide of a highly valuable player.
Yeah, me too. Though I'd be lying if I didn't say another rooting interest is a hope of seeing Andy Reid pound his fist on his war room table as whatever team we trade down with grabs the guy at the top of KC's board with our 22nd pick.
I'm in Florida so no more WIP for me.There's too much talk radio in NMB's reply.
IF you subscribe to the theory that Jackson was cut for money reasons than Chip was not the main man behind that. Chip isnt making money related decisions. He even said as much. So has Howie. So has Lurie.
The same GM comment is also misinformed. Reid was the Vice President of football operation when Jackson signed that deal....that's ALL Reid's deal.
Zero chance on Manziel. This was Chip's most recent comments on Foles:
Zero chance Manziel is here. There's only a small chance we even draft a QB this draft after adding Sanchez.
We're a running team....Chip didnt draft Shady either so I guess there's a small chance we draft a RB at #22...I mean, we'll have the pick of the litter and we can always trade Shady after that, right?.......
Seems pretty cheap for Berry, what am I missing?
Would anyone be willing to make that deal?
Absolutely. Same way I'd take Dion Jordan for a second. Just not a first.Read this rumor from another site:
Seems pretty cheap for Berry, what am I missing?
If move up slightly say 16- 18'ish. We end up with one of the following today:Deranged Hermit said:
