** Official 2014 Philadelphia Eagles Thread ** (2 Viewers)

[JetMaxx]

As much as I want Barr, the more I think about it I just can't justify sacrificing assets to get him. In addition to a pass rush, this team needs a WR, interior OL, and secondary help so I'm going with a trade down to add picks and a selection of Demarcus Lawrence. Not sure Boise State fits Howie/Kelly's preference for large school players but Lawrence gives them a strong OLB pass rush option.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

I wonder if the whole Dion Jordan trade is still out there? I wouldn't hate it if that went down.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Guess I am a Big 10 Homer. I want Shazier. Trade down, grab him and some DB, help. Just come out of this draft with 2 playmakers on defense.

 

[JaxBill]

Read this rumor from another site:

-Theres a real possibility that Eric Berry is traded on draft day, with the Falcons being most likely. The price tag is something around a second-round pick.

Seems pretty cheap for Berry, what am I missing? Would anyone be willing to make that deal?

He's got an 8.4 Mil base salary this year. Next year it goes down to 5 and change in the last year of his deal.

He would probably want to work an extension next offseason and I imagine use earl Thomas' contract as a guide.

You might have to deal with an upset player if he was "forced" to play for "only 5 Mil in 2015.

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Read this rumor from another site:

-Theres a real possibility that Eric Berry is traded on draft day, with the Falcons being most likely. The price tag is something around a second-round pick.

Seems pretty cheap for Berry, what am I missing? Would anyone be willing to make that deal?

He's got an 8.4 Mil base salary this year. Next year it goes down to 5 and change in the last year of his deal.

He would probably want to work an extension next offseason and I imagine use earl Thomas' contract as a guide.

You might have to deal with an upset player if he was "forced" to play for "only 5 Mil in 2015.

With the cap room available, I wouldn't think twice about trading a second and re-working his contract.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

As much as I want Barr, the more I think about it I just can't justify sacrificing assets to get him. In addition to a pass rush, this team needs a WR, interior OL, and secondary help so I'm going with a trade down to add picks and a selection of Demarcus Lawrence. Not sure Boise State fits Howie/Kelly's preference for large school players but Lawrence gives them a strong OLB pass rush option.

After looking at out pick breakdown I don't think we trade back, at least not with the first 2 picks anyway. We could stand pat and still end up with a solid draft IMO

Picks:

1st Round, No. 22

2nd Round, No. 54

3rd Round, No. 86

4th Round, No. 122

5th Round, No. 162

7th Round, No. 237

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Read this rumor from another site:

-Theres a real possibility that Eric Berry is traded on draft day, with the Falcons being most likely. The price tag is something around a second-round pick.

Seems pretty cheap for Berry, what am I missing? Would anyone be willing to make that deal?

Probably that his cap number is close to $12M this year. That's gonna put a real ceiling on the number of teams able to deal for him. Fortunately the Eagles would be one of them.

I'd trade a 2nd for Berry in five seconds.

 

[Deamon]

So tonight I feel the Eagles could:

A) Stand pat for either Ha Ha, Barr, Beckham or Fuller.

B) Move up to the 11-15 range for Ha Ha or Barr.

C) Trade back if none of those guys are there and the QBs are still available for teams like Hou, Jax, Minn or Clev.

D) Stand pat for best available WR.

A and C YES

B and D NO

 

[Deamon]

Anyone know if you can stream the draft on NFL.com (or anywhere else, but preferably from nfl.com) from out of North America? I'm travelling in Europe right now and not sure if it works out of north america.

 

[Late225]

As much as I want Barr, the more I think about it I just can't justify sacrificing assets to get him. In addition to a pass rush, this team needs a WR, interior OL, and secondary help so I'm going with a trade down to add picks and a selection of Demarcus Lawrence. Not sure Boise State fits Howie/Kelly's preference for large school players but Lawrence gives them a strong OLB pass rush option.

After looking at out pick breakdown I don't think we trade back, at least not with the first 2 picks anyway. We could stand pat and still end up with a solid draft IMO

Picks:

1st Round, No. 22

2nd Round, No. 54

3rd Round, No. 86

4th Round, No. 122

5th Round, No. 162

7th Round, No. 237

I think Barr slips a little and is there at 19. I think we trade a 4th and a 7th to move up three spots to 19 to get him.

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Read this rumor from another site:

-Theres a real possibility that Eric Berry is traded on draft day, with the Falcons being most likely. The price tag is something around a second-round pick.

Seems pretty cheap for Berry, what am I missing? Would anyone be willing to make that deal?

He's got an 8.4 Mil base salary this year. Next year it goes down to 5 and change in the last year of his deal.

He would probably want to work an extension next offseason and I imagine use earl Thomas' contract as a guide.

You might have to deal with an upset player if he was "forced" to play for "only 5 Mil in 2015.

Thomas signed for 4 and $40, which isn't exactly breaking the bank compared to other top-flight safeties (and even some second-tier guys). If you're gonna have to shell out, say, $7-8M for an above-average S anyway, you might as well get one of the best in the game for $9M.

 

[zadok]

Alright guys, only a few hours to go. Gun to your head, who do the Eagles get and how do they do it?

As much as I'd like to see them deal a third to move up over Dallas and get Barr, I think they stay at 22 and end up with Kyle Fuller. CB is a need spot and he's as good a prospect as anyone at the position.

Dennard hopefully...

 

[zadok]

So tonight I feel the Eagles could:

A) Stand pat for either Ha Ha, Barr, Beckham or Fuller.

B) Move up to the 11-15 range for Ha Ha or Barr.

C) Trade back if none of those guys are there and the QBs are still available for teams like Hou, Jax, Minn or Clev.

D) Stand pat for best available WR.

Beckham will be long gone by 22. Cooks/Benjamin would be the WR targets there I think.

 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

So tonight I feel the Eagles could:

A) Stand pat for either Ha Ha, Barr, Beckham or Fuller.

B) Move up to the 11-15 range for Ha Ha or Barr.

C) Trade back if none of those guys are there and the QBs are still available for teams like Hou, Jax, Minn or Clev.

D) Stand pat for best available WR.

Beckham will be long gone by 22. Cooks/Benjamin would be the WR targets there I think.

Dear Howie and Chip: If you really have your heart set on a big, tall, fast WR who gets labeled a "project" because he can't run a route or catch the freakin' ball, please trade your 7th-rounder to the Jets for Stephen Hill instead of wasting the 22nd pick in this absurdly deep WR draft on Kelvin Benjamin. kthxbai.

 

[unckeyherb]

Alright guys, only a few hours to go. Gun to your head, who do the Eagles get and how do they do it?

As much as I'd like to see them deal a third to move up over Dallas and get Barr, I think they stay at 22 and end up with Kyle Fuller. CB is a need spot and he's as good a prospect as anyone at the position.

agree with this, although I think its Ha Ha that they pull the trigger on if they both fall.

 

[thriftyrocker]

So tonight I feel the Eagles could:

A) Stand pat for either Ha Ha, Barr, Beckham or Fuller.

B) Move up to the 11-15 range for Ha Ha or Barr.

C) Trade back if none of those guys are there and the QBs are still available for teams like Hou, Jax, Minn or Clev.

D) Stand pat for best available WR.

Beckham will be long gone by 22. Cooks/Benjamin would be the WR targets there I think.

Dear Howie and Chip: If you really have your heart set on a big, tall, fast WR who gets labeled a "project" because he can't run a route or catch the freakin' ball, please trade your 7th-rounder to the Jets for Stephen Hill instead of wasting the 22nd pick in this absurdly deep WR draft on Kelvin Benjamin. kthxbai.

I'd also be okay with Brandon Coleman in the 4th.

 

[Late225]

Alright guys, only a few hours to go. Gun to your head, who do the Eagles get and how do they do it?

As much as I'd like to see them deal a third to move up over Dallas and get Barr, I think they stay at 22 and end up with Kyle Fuller. CB is a need spot and he's as good a prospect as anyone at the position.

agree with this, although I think its Ha Ha that they pull the trigger on if they both fall.

Started coming out yesterday that the Steelers are in love with Fuller and he'll be gone at 15.

 

[Polish Hammer]

Alright guys, only a few hours to go. Gun to your head, who do the Eagles get and how do they do it?

As much as I'd like to see them deal a third to move up over Dallas and get Barr, I think they stay at 22 and end up with Kyle Fuller. CB is a need spot and he's as good a prospect as anyone at the position.

agree with this, although I think its Ha Ha that they pull the trigger on if they both fall.

Started coming out yesterday that the Steelers are in love with Fuller and he'll be gone at 15.

This morning on Mike and Mike they said there were strong rumors of a PHI/PIT trade in round 1.

 

[Insein]

Not that mocks mean anything but Kiper's last mock has Cooks falling to the Eagles. I have to say that would annoy me if they draft basically the same player they let go in the first round. If you want to get a bigger WR, ok Ill go along with that. But if he takes a 5'9" speedster, wtf was the Desean thing about then? You let a guy go and had to use your first rounder to replace him?

Again probably not going to happen but it got me thinking.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Not that mocks mean anything but Kiper's last mock has Cooks falling to the Eagles. I have to say that would annoy me if they draft basically the same player they let go in the first round. If you want to get a bigger WR, ok Ill go along with that. But if he takes a 5'9" speedster, wtf was the Desean thing about then? You let a guy go and had to use your first rounder to replace him?

Again probably not going to happen but it got me thinking.

Sounds like Kiper is being lazy with that one IMO

Jason La Canfora released his first mock and had us taking Calvin Pryor but also mentions that it could be Deone Bucannon. That could be interesteding.

 

[Awful Waffle]

Not that mocks mean anything but Kiper's last mock has Cooks falling to the Eagles. I have to say that would annoy me if they draft basically the same player they let go in the first round. If you want to get a bigger WR, ok Ill go along with that. But if he takes a 5'9" speedster, wtf was the Desean thing about then? You let a guy go and had to use your first rounder to replace him?

Again probably not going to happen but it got me thinking.

They're somewhat similar in size but I think they're different players. DeSean is faster and more dynamic. Cooks is tougher and more willing to block/go over the middle. Cooks has also been praised for his character and work ethic, which is one of the reasons I think Chip got rid of DJax.

I think Marqise Lee is the pick. I like him (big time player his first two years at USC and he's the kind of kid you root for), but with the depth at receiver, I'd rather get someone on day 2. Problem is the guys I want (Fuller, Barr, HHCD, ODB) will probably be gone at 22. If they could trade back, I wouldn't mind Cody Latimer or Jeremiah Attaochu.

Either way, I'm excited that the draft is finally here. It'd be great to hit every need we have, but at the end of the day, I just want good football players. E-A-G-L-E-S!

 

[Deranged Hermit]

Alright guys, only a few hours to go. Gun to your head, who do the Eagles get and how do they do it?

As much as I'd like to see them deal a third to move up over Dallas and get Barr, I think they stay at 22 and end up with Kyle Fuller. CB is a need spot and he's as good a prospect as anyone at the position.

agree with this, although I think its Ha Ha that they pull the trigger on if they both fall.

Started coming out yesterday that the Steelers are in love with Fuller and he'll be gone at 15.

This morning on Mike and Mike they said there were strong rumors of a PHI/PIT trade in round 1.

Makes a lot of sense if PIT covets Fuller. Philly can jump over Dallas to get Barr and PIT most likely can get Fuller 7 picks later and pick up a 3rd to boot.

*ETA* I think Chicago is prime for a trade down too if somehow HaHa, Pryor and Donald were all scooped up ahead of them.

 

[Late225]

Not that mocks mean anything but Kiper's last mock has Cooks falling to the Eagles. I have to say that would annoy me if they draft basically the same player they let go in the first round. If you want to get a bigger WR, ok Ill go along with that. But if he takes a 5'9" speedster, wtf was the Desean thing about then? You let a guy go and had to use your first rounder to replace him?

Again probably not going to happen but it got me thinking.

They're somewhat similar in size but I think they're different players. DeSean is faster and more dynamic. Cooks is tougher and more willing to block/go over the middle. Cooks has also been praised for his character and work ethic, which is one of the reasons I think Chip got rid of DJax.I think Marqise Lee is the pick. I like him (big time player his first two years at USC and he's the kind of kid you root for), but with the depth at receiver, I'd rather get someone on day 2. Problem is the guys I want (Fuller, Barr, HHCD, ODB) will probably be gone at 22. If they could trade back, I wouldn't mind Cody Latimer or Jeremiah Attaochu.

Either way, I'm excited that the draft is finally here. It'd be great to hit every need we have, but at the end of the day, I just want good football players. E-A-G-L-E-S!

I think Latimer is my favorite WR in the draft after Watkins and Evans. Besides Jordan Matthews, he's the best blocking receiver in the draft.

The quarterbacks going in the top 20 or a surprise reach or two will definitely help us grab someone we covet. If the tackles go early and pushes Kouandjio down into the teens, or a guard goes there, we'll be in a really good spot.

Hell, who knows maybe we can use Brandon Graham to trade up with Miami or even end up with Dion Jordan somehow.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Not that mocks mean anything but Kiper's last mock has Cooks falling to the Eagles. I have to say that would annoy me if they draft basically the same player they let go in the first round. If you want to get a bigger WR, ok Ill go along with that. But if he takes a 5'9" speedster, wtf was the Desean thing about then? You let a guy go and had to use your first rounder to replace him?

Again probably not going to happen but it got me thinking.

They're somewhat similar in size but I think they're different players. DeSean is faster and more dynamic. Cooks is tougher and more willing to block/go over the middle. Cooks has also been praised for his character and work ethic, which is one of the reasons I think Chip got rid of DJax.

I think Marqise Lee is the pick. I like him (big time player his first two years at USC and he's the kind of kid you root for), but with the depth at receiver, I'd rather get someone on day 2. Problem is the guys I want (Fuller, Barr, HHCD, ODB) will probably be gone at 22. If they could trade back, I wouldn't mind Cody Latimer or Jeremiah Attaochu.

Either way, I'm excited that the draft is finally here. It'd be great to hit every need we have, but at the end of the day, I just want good football players. E-A-G-L-E-S!

IMO if you flip-flop Lee's 2012 season with his 2013 he's in the conversation for top WR taken

 

[Awful Waffle]

Not that mocks mean anything but Kiper's last mock has Cooks falling to the Eagles. I have to say that would annoy me if they draft basically the same player they let go in the first round. If you want to get a bigger WR, ok Ill go along with that. But if he takes a 5'9" speedster, wtf was the Desean thing about then? You let a guy go and had to use your first rounder to replace him?

Again probably not going to happen but it got me thinking.

They're somewhat similar in size but I think they're different players. DeSean is faster and more dynamic. Cooks is tougher and more willing to block/go over the middle. Cooks has also been praised for his character and work ethic, which is one of the reasons I think Chip got rid of DJax.

I think Marqise Lee is the pick. I like him (big time player his first two years at USC and he's the kind of kid you root for), but with the depth at receiver, I'd rather get someone on day 2. Problem is the guys I want (Fuller, Barr, HHCD, ODB) will probably be gone at 22. If they could trade back, I wouldn't mind Cody Latimer or Jeremiah Attaochu.

Either way, I'm excited that the draft is finally here. It'd be great to hit every need we have, but at the end of the day, I just want good football players. E-A-G-L-E-S!

IMO if you flip-flip Lee's 2012 season with his 2013 he's in the conversation for top WR taken

Yeah, his 2012 season was ridiculous. But a combination of too much preseason hype, an injury, and bad QB play/play calling hindered his season.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Not that mocks mean anything but Kiper's last mock has Cooks falling to the Eagles. I have to say that would annoy me if they draft basically the same player they let go in the first round. If you want to get a bigger WR, ok Ill go along with that. But if he takes a 5'9" speedster, wtf was the Desean thing about then? You let a guy go and had to use your first rounder to replace him?

Again probably not going to happen but it got me thinking.

They're somewhat similar in size but I think they're different players. DeSean is faster and more dynamic. Cooks is tougher and more willing to block/go over the middle. Cooks has also been praised for his character and work ethic, which is one of the reasons I think Chip got rid of DJax.

I think Marqise Lee is the pick. I like him (big time player his first two years at USC and he's the kind of kid you root for), but with the depth at receiver, I'd rather get someone on day 2. Problem is the guys I want (Fuller, Barr, HHCD, ODB) will probably be gone at 22. If they could trade back, I wouldn't mind Cody Latimer or Jeremiah Attaochu.

Either way, I'm excited that the draft is finally here. It'd be great to hit every need we have, but at the end of the day, I just want good football players. E-A-G-L-E-S!

IMO if you flip-flip Lee's 2012 season with his 2013 he's in the conversation for top WR taken

Yeah, his 2012 season was ridiculous. But a combination of too much preseason hype, an injury, and bad QB play/play calling hindered his season.

They also had 3 Head Coaches that year.

When I watch Lee he just looks special....especially after he has the ball in his hands

 

[Mighty Mice]

Best Player Available and I can't complain... but REALLY want them to address the pass rush. We need to get after the QB! Hope the BPA is a pass rusher or a CB/S, who improves the coverage and thus gives the front 7 more time to get after the QB.

Just sick of watching QBs have all day back there against us.

If the end up with Fuller, Haha, or Barr it would help. Or a trade for Jordan, obviously.

Last thing I want to see is an expensive trade up. BPA at 22. Fingers crossed it's a pass rush or coverage guy. Offense is fine IMO and Spoles helps the ST, too. Only add on D has been Jenkins. Nice add, but would like another solid add there. Could be at 54, I suppose.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

1st Round, No. 22-- Marqis Lee WR
2nd Round, No. 54-- Keith McGill CB
3rd Round, No. 86-- James Gayle OLB or trade back
4th Round, No. 122-- Michael Schofield OT

 

[Amused to Death]

I'm going to consult the Eagles First Round Draft Guide as I'm watching tonight.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Anyone be pissed if its Nix? It's seems inuversally accepted that we are OK at NT. I'd like to see more of Logan but who do we have behind him if he doesnt pan out?

 

[JetMaxx]

How much would you pay to be in the Eagles' war room? They should sell it for charity and sign a confidentiality clause.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Knew Barr would go earlier then most thought.

 

[Deamon]

Not happy Beckham went to the Giants.

 

[Ash]

Ugh. Loved Beckham and now he's a Giant.

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

Yeah this is who I wanted. Sucks he's in the division.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Beckham didn't blow by anyone on those highlights. He looked slow

 

[Ash]

Beckham didn't blow by anyone on those highlights. He looked slow

Let's hope we were all wrong and he sucks.

 

[Buddy Ball 2K3]

Thankfully Eli is still there with a horrible O-LINE. Love the pick

 

[Mighty Mice]

Think NYG messed up there. Donald and Martin made more sense. Their lines need work more than their WR corps. Love that pick for the Eagles, although do love Beckham.

Hoping for Fuller or Ha Ha at this point...

Edit...ahhhhh there goes Fuller. Good pick for the Bears.

 

[GoBirds]

Denaro and both safeties still there could be interesting.

 

[Ash]

Who bets Cowboys take Manziel?

 

[Deamon]

WOW! YES! Was really hoping they didn't take Dennard or Ha ha

 

[Ash]

Who bets Cowboys take Manziel?

Not me!

 

[Bigboy10182000]

GET TO THIS SPOT NOW EAGLES!!!!

 

[Deamon]

Ya I'm ok with a trade up as soon as one of Dennard or Ha Ha go.

 

[Ash]

So there's HHCD, Mosley, Pryor & Lee. Denard isn't a great fit for how the CBs played (off man or zone) last year but the might use him differently. Disappointed Beckham, Barr and Fuller went so early but there's still lots of good options there.

 

[GoBirds]

If we draft Manzier I will die. Gotta go DB. Then hope for a Mathews type WR tomorrow.

 

[Ash]

If we draft Manzier I will die. Gotta go DB. Then hope for a Mathews type WR tomorrow.

I believe I will experience real grief if we draft Manziel.

ETA: I don't think we will. Having seen how this offense works now, I genuinely believe Chip values decision making and accuracy in the QBs and that isn't Manziel's game.

 

[Ash]

Cowboys drafted OL in R1 two years in a row, is the apocalypse coming?

 

[Insein]

Im getting anxious now. HaHa still there. 5picks away. Come on man.