** Official 2014 Philadelphia Eagles Thread ** (1 Viewer)

[Phenomena]

My prediction is this is the week that the Eagles get grounded. For all their offensive flair last year, the Eagles offense this year has not been very good at all. The amount of turnovers/TDs by special teams and defense has been completely carrying this team and is nowhere near sustainable. One of the reasons for the defensive/special teams success is that the Eagles have played a slew of turnover-happy QBs this year (soft schedule).

Unfortunately, this week they play Rodgers, whom is one of the least turnover-prone QBs in the modern era. Add to that the fact that the Packers are playing spectacularly at home (no losses, with an average margin of victory of 24 points) and it could be a long day for the Philly faithful. In the Eagles two losses the net turnover ratio was negative (in both they got one turnover but gave up more than one). The Packers currently own the 2nd best turnover ratio in the NFL over the first nine weeks, so good luck winning that battle, especially with the Packers at home.

I appear to be one of the few not ready to proclaim the Sanchez switch a success after a few quarters of football. I think he's going to struggle with the game being away and without being gifted solid field position several times per game. As a fourth item, the Packers DEF has had three dominate performances in the last 4 games and are starting to play up to their talent level. I venture to say that the Saints game was an anomaly due to Williams and Shields both being out (hard to play against Brees without your two best cover corners). Both are back on the field.

Packers 34-17

 

[Insein]

Casey is tired of hearing about big bro. Sacks Rodgers 3 times, one for a fumble TD recovery and run. Eagles win 31-20.

 

[ShaHBucks]

My prediction is this is the week that the Eagles get grounded. For all their offensive flair last year, the Eagles offense this year has not been very good at all. The amount of turnovers/TDs by special teams and defense has been completely carrying this team and is nowhere near sustainable. One of the reasons for the defensive/special teams success is that the Eagles have played a slew of turnover-happy QBs this year (soft schedule).

Unfortunately, this week they play Rodgers, whom is one of the least turnover-prone QBs in the modern era. Add to that the fact that the Packers are playing spectacularly at home (no losses, with an average margin of victory of 24 points) and it could be a long day for the Philly faithful. In the Eagles two losses the net turnover ratio was negative (in both they got one turnover but gave up more than one). The Packers currently own the 2nd best turnover ratio in the NFL over the first nine weeks, so good luck winning that battle, especially with the Packers at home.

I appear to be one of the few not ready to proclaim the Sanchez switch a success after a few quarters of football. I think he's going to struggle with the game being away and without being gifted solid field position several times per game. As a fourth item, the Packers DEF has had three dominate performances in the last 4 games and are starting to play up to their talent level. I venture to say that the Saints game was an anomaly due to Williams and Shields both being out (hard to play against Brees without your two best cover corners). Both are back on the field.

Packers 34-17

Nice post. I have it 31-23 GB.

I'm actually starting to wonder if this is the defense that could actually bother a Aaron Rodgers, sort of like Seattle's defense last year with a number of elite QBs. We know for sure this defense is not giving QB with a ton of flaws any room to breath. This one will be fun to watch.

 

[Snotbubbles]

My prediction is this is the week that the Eagles get grounded. For all their offensive flair last year, the Eagles offense this year has not been very good at all. The amount of turnovers/TDs by special teams and defense has been completely carrying this team and is nowhere near sustainable. One of the reasons for the defensive/special teams success is that the Eagles have played a slew of turnover-happy QBs this year (soft schedule).

Unfortunately, this week they play Rodgers, whom is one of the least turnover-prone QBs in the modern era. Add to that the fact that the Packers are playing spectacularly at home (no losses, with an average margin of victory of 24 points) and it could be a long day for the Philly faithful. In the Eagles two losses the net turnover ratio was negative (in both they got one turnover but gave up more than one). The Packers currently own the 2nd best turnover ratio in the NFL over the first nine weeks, so good luck winning that battle, especially with the Packers at home.

I appear to be one of the few not ready to proclaim the Sanchez switch a success after a few quarters of football. I think he's going to struggle with the game being away and without being gifted solid field position several times per game. As a fourth item, the Packers DEF has had three dominate performances in the last 4 games and are starting to play up to their talent level. I venture to say that the Saints game was an anomaly due to Williams and Shields both being out (hard to play against Brees without your two best cover corners). Both are back on the field.

Packers 34-17

Disagree with your analysis.

The Eagles offense is 4th in the league in scoring. If that is termed as "not good at all" then I think you have some unrealistic expectations. Green Bay is 5th in scoring offense, have they been "not good at all"?

Winning the TO battle is irrelevant to this Eagles team. They've only done it twice all season (week 2 vs. Indy and last week vs. Carolina).

The Eagles IMO have the better offense, defense and special teams. But that being said, they may still lose this game. It's hard to win on the road in the NFL especially a place like Lambeau.

 

[fred_1_15301]

My prediction is this is the week that the Eagles get grounded. For all their offensive flair last year, the Eagles offense this year has not been very good at all. The amount of turnovers/TDs by special teams and defense has been completely carrying this team and is nowhere near sustainable. One of the reasons for the defensive/special teams success is that the Eagles have played a slew of turnover-happy QBs this year (soft schedule).

Unfortunately, this week they play Rodgers, whom is one of the least turnover-prone QBs in the modern era. Add to that the fact that the Packers are playing spectacularly at home (no losses, with an average margin of victory of 24 points) and it could be a long day for the Philly faithful. In the Eagles two losses the net turnover ratio was negative (in both they got one turnover but gave up more than one). The Packers currently own the 2nd best turnover ratio in the NFL over the first nine weeks, so good luck winning that battle, especially with the Packers at home.

I appear to be one of the few not ready to proclaim the Sanchez switch a success after a few quarters of football. I think he's going to struggle with the game being away and without being gifted solid field position several times per game. As a fourth item, the Packers DEF has had three dominate performances in the last 4 games and are starting to play up to their talent level. I venture to say that the Saints game was an anomaly due to Williams and Shields both being out (hard to play against Brees without your two best cover corners). Both are back on the field.

Packers 34-17

Disagree with your analysis.

The Eagles offense is 4th in the league in scoring. If that is termed as "not good at all" then I think you have some unrealistic expectations. Green Bay is 5th in scoring offense, have they been "not good at all"?

Winning the TO battle is irrelevant to this Eagles team. They've only done it twice all season (week 2 vs. Indy and last week vs. Carolina).

The Eagles IMO have the better offense, defense and special teams. But that being said, they may still lose this game. It's hard to win on the road in the NFL especially a place like Lambeau.

I'll agree with you about the Eagles defense but I don't think their offense is better than Green Bay's offense. You have to keep in mind that the Eagles offense has benefited tremendously from the insane number of turnovers created by the defense and the play of the special teams. Green Bay has an elite QB, 2 elite receivers, a good RB and a pretty good offensive line. The difference in overall scoring between the 2 teams is negligible and would disappear if you adjusted for the turnovers/special teams play. Philly may be a better team but I'd take Green Bay's offense over theirs any day of the week.

 

[CentralPA]

My prediction is this is the week that the Eagles get grounded. For all their offensive flair last year, the Eagles offense this year has not been very good at all. The amount of turnovers/TDs by special teams and defense has been completely carrying this team and is nowhere near sustainable. One of the reasons for the defensive/special teams success is that the Eagles have played a slew of turnover-happy QBs this year (soft schedule).

Unfortunately, this week they play Rodgers, whom is one of the least turnover-prone QBs in the modern era. Add to that the fact that the Packers are playing spectacularly at home (no losses, with an average margin of victory of 24 points) and it could be a long day for the Philly faithful. In the Eagles two losses the net turnover ratio was negative (in both they got one turnover but gave up more than one). The Packers currently own the 2nd best turnover ratio in the NFL over the first nine weeks, so good luck winning that battle, especially with the Packers at home.

I appear to be one of the few not ready to proclaim the Sanchez switch a success after a few quarters of football. I think he's going to struggle with the game being away and without being gifted solid field position several times per game. As a fourth item, the Packers DEF has had three dominate performances in the last 4 games and are starting to play up to their talent level. I venture to say that the Saints game was an anomaly due to Williams and Shields both being out (hard to play against Brees without your two best cover corners). Both are back on the field.

Packers 34-17

Disagree with your analysis.

The Eagles offense is 4th in the league in scoring. If that is termed as "not good at all" then I think you have some unrealistic expectations. Green Bay is 5th in scoring offense, have they been "not good at all"?

Winning the TO battle is irrelevant to this Eagles team. They've only done it twice all season (week 2 vs. Indy and last week vs. Carolina).

The Eagles IMO have the better offense, defense and special teams. But that being said, they may still lose this game. It's hard to win on the road in the NFL especially a place like Lambeau.

I'll agree with you about the Eagles defense but I don't think their offense is better than Green Bay's offense. You have to keep in mind that the Eagles offense has benefited tremendously from the insane number of turnovers created by the defense and the play of the special teams. Green Bay has an elite QB, 2 elite receivers, a good RB and a pretty good offensive line. The difference in overall scoring between the 2 teams is negligible and would disappear if you adjusted for the turnovers/special teams play. Philly may be a better team but I'd take Green Bay's offense over theirs any day of the week.

I'd take Chip Kelly coaching that offense over the one he coaches now. Captain Obvious.......out!

 

[Snotbubbles]

My prediction is this is the week that the Eagles get grounded. For all their offensive flair last year, the Eagles offense this year has not been very good at all. The amount of turnovers/TDs by special teams and defense has been completely carrying this team and is nowhere near sustainable. One of the reasons for the defensive/special teams success is that the Eagles have played a slew of turnover-happy QBs this year (soft schedule).

Unfortunately, this week they play Rodgers, whom is one of the least turnover-prone QBs in the modern era. Add to that the fact that the Packers are playing spectacularly at home (no losses, with an average margin of victory of 24 points) and it could be a long day for the Philly faithful. In the Eagles two losses the net turnover ratio was negative (in both they got one turnover but gave up more than one). The Packers currently own the 2nd best turnover ratio in the NFL over the first nine weeks, so good luck winning that battle, especially with the Packers at home.

I appear to be one of the few not ready to proclaim the Sanchez switch a success after a few quarters of football. I think he's going to struggle with the game being away and without being gifted solid field position several times per game. As a fourth item, the Packers DEF has had three dominate performances in the last 4 games and are starting to play up to their talent level. I venture to say that the Saints game was an anomaly due to Williams and Shields both being out (hard to play against Brees without your two best cover corners). Both are back on the field.

Packers 34-17

Disagree with your analysis.

The Eagles offense is 4th in the league in scoring. If that is termed as "not good at all" then I think you have some unrealistic expectations. Green Bay is 5th in scoring offense, have they been "not good at all"?

Winning the TO battle is irrelevant to this Eagles team. They've only done it twice all season (week 2 vs. Indy and last week vs. Carolina).

The Eagles IMO have the better offense, defense and special teams. But that being said, they may still lose this game. It's hard to win on the road in the NFL especially a place like Lambeau.

I'll agree with you about the Eagles defense but I don't think their offense is better than Green Bay's offense. You have to keep in mind that the Eagles offense has benefited tremendously from the insane number of turnovers created by the defense and the play of the special teams. Green Bay has an elite QB, 2 elite receivers, a good RB and a pretty good offensive line. The difference in overall scoring between the 2 teams is negligible and would disappear if you adjusted for the turnovers/special teams play. Philly may be a better team but I'd take Green Bay's offense over theirs any day of the week.

Eagles defense has forced 16 TO. Green Bay's defense has forced 18 TO.

 

[jon007]

@Deamon - I didn't mean to come off too harsh. I'm just the type of person that moves forward and continues to want improvement.

I have found it interesting that the statistician's in this discussion are predicting a loss while the optimist are predicting a win. I'm not going to predict anything other than a hell of a football game that will most likely be decided in the 2 minute drill in the 4th quarter.

On an interesting note who on the Eagles team has more big game experience than Sanchez? Without digging through the years I can only come up with one guy, Celek. Another interesting note is Sanchez has played well and won his fair share of game against the Patriots. I will go ahead and say it, I am in the Sanchez camp and I believe we have a better than average shot at getting a win in Green Bay.

Also so which Defensive Coordinator is more worried about the other teams Offense?

 

[Snotbubbles]

@Deamon - I didn't mean to come off too harsh. I'm just the type of person that moves forward and continues to want improvement.

I have found it interesting that the statistician's in this discussion are predicting a loss while the optimist are predicting a win. I'm not going to predict anything other than a hell of a football game that will most likely be decided in the 2 minute drill in the 4th quarter.

On an interesting note who on the Eagles team has more big game experience than Sanchez? Without digging through the years I can only come up with one guy, Celek. Another interesting note is Sanchez has played well and won his fair share of game against the Patriots. I will go ahead and say it, I am in the Sanchez camp and I believe we have a better than average shot at getting a win in Green Bay.

Also so which Defensive Coordinator is more worried about the other teams Offense?

Malcolm Jenkins

 

[The Noid]

I think they have their first really bad stinker of the season this week, which is fine because most assumed this would be a loss when looking at the schedule. Rather it come here, than against the Cowboys or Titans.

 

[Insein]

Honestly, aside from some beat downs on Chicago and Minnesota with Ponder, and Carolina what have the Packers done that was really impressive?

Barely beat the Jets at home. Needed a last second play to beat Miami. Lost to Detroit and Seattle and New Orleans when they weren't even in the game.

The Eagles have been in every game they've played his year. There have been some games they've played poorly but still managed to stay in it.

The Eagles to me are he better team and Green Bay has a better QB. This is going to be a good game and one that I think the Eagles will come out of as front runners in the NFC.

 

[Amused to Death]

Honestly, aside from some beat downs on Chicago and Minnesota with Ponder, and Carolina what have the Packers done that was really impressive?

Barely beat the Jets at home. Needed a last second play to beat Miami. Lost to Detroit and Seattle and New Orleans when they weren't even in the game.

The Eagles have been in every game they've played his year. There have been some games they've played poorly but still managed to stay in it.

The Eagles to me are he better team and Green Bay has a better QB. This is going to be a good game and one that I think the Eagles will come out of as front runners in the NFC.

That's what I'm talkin' about. I've heard media types (well, WIP) say the Eagles need to beat a good team because they haven't beaten a good on since the Colts. What good team has GB beaten? Does Miami count? Other than that its been a bunch of dreck like the Panthers. And got beat by a sub-.500 team in NO.

 

[Kwai Chang Caine]

Sanchez is one of three QBs to win 4 playoff road games (can anyone name the other 2?). This is the guy Kelly hand picked to join the club. He was coached by essentially buffoons in NYC and now he comes to an offensive minded coach. He's also healthy! He also has a serious pedigree. Yeah I'm an optimist but I just feel in my guts this guy is gonna get it done! He looked tremendous in preseason and all the news about how he's dived into the Playbook and dedicated himself to the team is encouraging. Kurt Warner said back in week two, the coaches said he processes information faster than Foles. I think it's possible even more options will open up for him.

All that said, I'm not sure they win this week. To me it's a coin flip. The Pack are a good--but flawed like everyone else--team. And it's interesting to listen to Brain Baldinger, Lambeu does not confer a tremendous advantage the way Seattles stadium does.

So yeah, the optimist in me says, they win 31-30!

 

[dhockster]

The Eagles really got the hard road schedule this year. Besides division games, at Indy, at Houston, at Ari, at SF, at GB. One easy (relatively) road game. Of course their home schedule was pretty easy. Besides division games: Tenn, Jax, St.L, Carolina, Seattle. One hard home game. Interesting.

 

[Phenomena]

My prediction is this is the week that the Eagles get grounded. For all their offensive flair last year, the Eagles offense this year has not been very good at all. The amount of turnovers/TDs by special teams and defense has been completely carrying this team and is nowhere near sustainable. One of the reasons for the defensive/special teams success is that the Eagles have played a slew of turnover-happy QBs this year (soft schedule).

Unfortunately, this week they play Rodgers, whom is one of the least turnover-prone QBs in the modern era. Add to that the fact that the Packers are playing spectacularly at home (no losses, with an average margin of victory of 24 points) and it could be a long day for the Philly faithful. In the Eagles two losses the net turnover ratio was negative (in both they got one turnover but gave up more than one). The Packers currently own the 2nd best turnover ratio in the NFL over the first nine weeks, so good luck winning that battle, especially with the Packers at home.

I appear to be one of the few not ready to proclaim the Sanchez switch a success after a few quarters of football. I think he's going to struggle with the game being away and without being gifted solid field position several times per game. As a fourth item, the Packers DEF has had three dominate performances in the last 4 games and are starting to play up to their talent level. I venture to say that the Saints game was an anomaly due to Williams and Shields both being out (hard to play against Brees without your two best cover corners). Both are back on the field.

Packers 34-17

Disagree with your analysis.

The Eagles offense is 4th in the league in scoring. If that is termed as "not good at all" then I think you have some unrealistic expectations. Green Bay is 5th in scoring offense, have they been "not good at all"?

Winning the TO battle is irrelevant to this Eagles team. They've only done it twice all season (week 2 vs. Indy and last week vs. Carolina).

The Eagles IMO have the better offense, defense and special teams. But that being said, they may still lose this game. It's hard to win on the road in the NFL especially a place like Lambeau.

I'll agree with you about the Eagles defense but I don't think their offense is better than Green Bay's offense. You have to keep in mind that the Eagles offense has benefited tremendously from the insane number of turnovers created by the defense and the play of the special teams. Green Bay has an elite QB, 2 elite receivers, a good RB and a pretty good offensive line. The difference in overall scoring between the 2 teams is negligible and would disappear if you adjusted for the turnovers/special teams play. Philly may be a better team but I'd take Green Bay's offense over theirs any day of the week.

Eagles defense has forced 16 TO. Green Bay's defense has forced 18 TO.

The point here is that the Packers would have won every one of the games they won without the forced turnovers. The Eagles games were much closer and they needed the help. The margin of victory for the Packers in their wins is much higher than the Eagles (20 vs 13). \

If neither team had any turnovers, you can't tell me the Eagles are going to score as many points or win as many games.

 

[unckeyherb]

My prediction is this is the week that the Eagles get grounded. For all their offensive flair last year, the Eagles offense this year has not been very good at all. The amount of turnovers/TDs by special teams and defense has been completely carrying this team and is nowhere near sustainable. One of the reasons for the defensive/special teams success is that the Eagles have played a slew of turnover-happy QBs this year (soft schedule).

Unfortunately, this week they play Rodgers, whom is one of the least turnover-prone QBs in the modern era. Add to that the fact that the Packers are playing spectacularly at home (no losses, with an average margin of victory of 24 points) and it could be a long day for the Philly faithful. In the Eagles two losses the net turnover ratio was negative (in both they got one turnover but gave up more than one). The Packers currently own the 2nd best turnover ratio in the NFL over the first nine weeks, so good luck winning that battle, especially with the Packers at home.

I appear to be one of the few not ready to proclaim the Sanchez switch a success after a few quarters of football. I think he's going to struggle with the game being away and without being gifted solid field position several times per game. As a fourth item, the Packers DEF has had three dominate performances in the last 4 games and are starting to play up to their talent level. I venture to say that the Saints game was an anomaly due to Williams and Shields both being out (hard to play against Brees without your two best cover corners). Both are back on the field.

Packers 34-17

Disagree with your analysis.

The Eagles offense is 4th in the league in scoring. If that is termed as "not good at all" then I think you have some unrealistic expectations. Green Bay is 5th in scoring offense, have they been "not good at all"?

Winning the TO battle is irrelevant to this Eagles team. They've only done it twice all season (week 2 vs. Indy and last week vs. Carolina).

The Eagles IMO have the better offense, defense and special teams. But that being said, they may still lose this game. It's hard to win on the road in the NFL especially a place like Lambeau.

I'll agree with you about the Eagles defense but I don't think their offense is better than Green Bay's offense. You have to keep in mind that the Eagles offense has benefited tremendously from the insane number of turnovers created by the defense and the play of the special teams. Green Bay has an elite QB, 2 elite receivers, a good RB and a pretty good offensive line. The difference in overall scoring between the 2 teams is negligible and would disappear if you adjusted for the turnovers/special teams play. Philly may be a better team but I'd take Green Bay's offense over theirs any day of the week.

Eagles defense has forced 16 TO. Green Bay's defense has forced 18 TO.

The point here is that the Packers would have won every one of the games they won without the forced turnovers. The Eagles games were much closer and they needed the help. The margin of victory for the Packers in their wins is much higher than the Eagles (20 vs 13). \

If neither team had any turnovers, you can't tell me the Eagles are going to score as many points or win as many games.

If my aunt had a dilsnick she'd be my uncle.

 

[Phenomena]

Honestly, aside from some beat downs on Chicago and Minnesota with Ponder, and Carolina what have the Packers done that was really impressive?

Barely beat the Jets at home. Needed a last second play to beat Miami. Lost to Detroit and Seattle and New Orleans when they weren't even in the game.

The Eagles have been in every game they've played his year. There have been some games they've played poorly but still managed to stay in it.

The Eagles to me are he better team and Green Bay has a better QB. This is going to be a good game and one that I think the Eagles will come out of as front runners in the NFC.

This is a dumb argument to me. Look at the schedule. PHI has only played three decent teams... Colts, Cards, and 49ers... two losses and a 3-point win.

The Packers have played four good teams so far this year and went 1-3 but EVERY GAME was away. Dolphins, Lions, Saints, and Seahawks were all on the road. It's tough enough having a harder schedule, but getting all of the toughest games on the road is brutal.

Not only has the Packers toughest games been harder than the Eagles toughest games, but the Eagles easier games have been much easier than the Packers (JAX, STL, WAS) compared to CHIx2 and MIN. Chicago might be having troubles now but they are still a tougher team to beat than those other three because of their offensive ability.

 

[Deamon]

My prediction is this is the week that the Eagles get grounded. For all their offensive flair last year, the Eagles offense this year has not been very good at all. The amount of turnovers/TDs by special teams and defense has been completely carrying this team and is nowhere near sustainable. One of the reasons for the defensive/special teams success is that the Eagles have played a slew of turnover-happy QBs this year (soft schedule).

Unfortunately, this week they play Rodgers, whom is one of the least turnover-prone QBs in the modern era. Add to that the fact that the Packers are playing spectacularly at home (no losses, with an average margin of victory of 24 points) and it could be a long day for the Philly faithful. In the Eagles two losses the net turnover ratio was negative (in both they got one turnover but gave up more than one). The Packers currently own the 2nd best turnover ratio in the NFL over the first nine weeks, so good luck winning that battle, especially with the Packers at home.

I appear to be one of the few not ready to proclaim the Sanchez switch a success after a few quarters of football. I think he's going to struggle with the game being away and without being gifted solid field position several times per game. As a fourth item, the Packers DEF has had three dominate performances in the last 4 games and are starting to play up to their talent level. I venture to say that the Saints game was an anomaly due to Williams and Shields both being out (hard to play against Brees without your two best cover corners). Both are back on the field.

Packers 34-17

Disagree with your analysis.

The Eagles offense is 4th in the league in scoring. If that is termed as "not good at all" then I think you have some unrealistic expectations. Green Bay is 5th in scoring offense, have they been "not good at all"?

Winning the TO battle is irrelevant to this Eagles team. They've only done it twice all season (week 2 vs. Indy and last week vs. Carolina).

The Eagles IMO have the better offense, defense and special teams. But that being said, they may still lose this game. It's hard to win on the road in the NFL especially a place like Lambeau.

I'll agree with you about the Eagles defense but I don't think their offense is better than Green Bay's offense. You have to keep in mind that the Eagles offense has benefited tremendously from the insane number of turnovers created by the defense and the play of the special teams. Green Bay has an elite QB, 2 elite receivers, a good RB and a pretty good offensive line. The difference in overall scoring between the 2 teams is negligible and would disappear if you adjusted for the turnovers/special teams play. Philly may be a better team but I'd take Green Bay's offense over theirs any day of the week.

Eagles defense has forced 16 TO. Green Bay's defense has forced 18 TO.

The point here is that the Packers would have won every one of the games they won without the forced turnovers. The Eagles games were much closer and they needed the help. The margin of victory for the Packers in their wins is much higher than the Eagles (20 vs 13). \

If neither team had any turnovers, you can't tell me the Eagles are going to score as many points or win as many games.

Jeez just reading your original post reeked of Packer fandom. Didn't even need to click on your thing to see your favourite team to know it was a Packer fan coming in here guns blazing and one sided on their opinion (which was exaggerated only because you are playing us this week).

Most of us are optimistic, yet realistic with this game. We all think the Packers are a good team, will be challenging, and we will need to play our best to beat them.

In terms of the turnovers padding our victories, I think the opposite. We still would have beaten Carolina without those turnovers. And as nice as those are, they keep our potent offense OFF the field and wear our defense down when our D scores like that so quickly. We are at our best when we are wearing down defenses and we have our offense on the field a lot.... hence why we've been so good in 2nd halves (along with chips adjustments and our fitness).

I don't think we can count on Rodgers making many errors, so I think the turnover battle is a coin flip. CHip takes whats given to him. Carolina just wanted to stop the run, and I think GB will try to take away the deep ball and the pass a lot and bring pressure hard on Sanchez. Bold prediction is that Shady rushes for 100 and wears the D down enough to keep Arod a little frustrated on the sideline. I'll stick to the 30-26 Packers, but I think we have a great shot at going in there and winning.

 

[unckeyherb]

Honestly, aside from some beat downs on Chicago and Minnesota with Ponder, and Carolina what have the Packers done that was really impressive?

Barely beat the Jets at home. Needed a last second play to beat Miami. Lost to Detroit and Seattle and New Orleans when they weren't even in the game.

The Eagles have been in every game they've played his year. There have been some games they've played poorly but still managed to stay in it.

The Eagles to me are he better team and Green Bay has a better QB. This is going to be a good game and one that I think the Eagles will come out of as front runners in the NFC.

This is a dumb argument to me. Look at the schedule. PHI has only played three decent teams... Colts, Cards, and 49ers... two losses and a 3-point win.

The Packers have played four good teams so far this year and went 1-3 but EVERY GAME was away. Dolphins, Lions, Saints, and Seahawks were all on the road. It's tough enough having a harder schedule, but getting all of the toughest games on the road is brutal.

Not only has the Packers toughest games been harder than the Eagles toughest games, but the Eagles easier games have been much easier than the Packers (JAX, STL, WAS) compared to CHIx2 and MIN. Chicago might be having troubles now but they are still a tougher team to beat than those other three because of their offensive ability.

So were the Eagles games you just listed-not sure what your point is.

Chicago x2 and Minny is garbage, not sure how those matchups are definitively harder than St Louis or even Washington.

 

[Phenomena]

My prediction is this is the week that the Eagles get grounded. For all their offensive flair last year, the Eagles offense this year has not been very good at all. The amount of turnovers/TDs by special teams and defense has been completely carrying this team and is nowhere near sustainable. One of the reasons for the defensive/special teams success is that the Eagles have played a slew of turnover-happy QBs this year (soft schedule).

Unfortunately, this week they play Rodgers, whom is one of the least turnover-prone QBs in the modern era. Add to that the fact that the Packers are playing spectacularly at home (no losses, with an average margin of victory of 24 points) and it could be a long day for the Philly faithful. In the Eagles two losses the net turnover ratio was negative (in both they got one turnover but gave up more than one). The Packers currently own the 2nd best turnover ratio in the NFL over the first nine weeks, so good luck winning that battle, especially with the Packers at home.

I appear to be one of the few not ready to proclaim the Sanchez switch a success after a few quarters of football. I think he's going to struggle with the game being away and without being gifted solid field position several times per game. As a fourth item, the Packers DEF has had three dominate performances in the last 4 games and are starting to play up to their talent level. I venture to say that the Saints game was an anomaly due to Williams and Shields both being out (hard to play against Brees without your two best cover corners). Both are back on the field.

Packers 34-17

Disagree with your analysis.

The Eagles offense is 4th in the league in scoring. If that is termed as "not good at all" then I think you have some unrealistic expectations. Green Bay is 5th in scoring offense, have they been "not good at all"?

Winning the TO battle is irrelevant to this Eagles team. They've only done it twice all season (week 2 vs. Indy and last week vs. Carolina).

The Eagles IMO have the better offense, defense and special teams. But that being said, they may still lose this game. It's hard to win on the road in the NFL especially a place like Lambeau.

I'll agree with you about the Eagles defense but I don't think their offense is better than Green Bay's offense. You have to keep in mind that the Eagles offense has benefited tremendously from the insane number of turnovers created by the defense and the play of the special teams. Green Bay has an elite QB, 2 elite receivers, a good RB and a pretty good offensive line. The difference in overall scoring between the 2 teams is negligible and would disappear if you adjusted for the turnovers/special teams play. Philly may be a better team but I'd take Green Bay's offense over theirs any day of the week.

Eagles defense has forced 16 TO. Green Bay's defense has forced 18 TO.

The point here is that the Packers would have won every one of the games they won without the forced turnovers. The Eagles games were much closer and they needed the help. The margin of victory for the Packers in their wins is much higher than the Eagles (20 vs 13). \

If neither team had any turnovers, you can't tell me the Eagles are going to score as many points or win as many games.

Jeez just reading your original post reeked of Packer fandom. Didn't even need to click on your thing to see your favourite team to know it was a Packer fan coming in here guns blazing and one sided on their opinion (which was exaggerated only because you are playing us this week).

Most of us are optimistic, yet realistic with this game. We all think the Packers are a good team, will be challenging, and we will need to play our best to beat them.

In terms of the turnovers padding our victories, I think the opposite. We still would have beaten Carolina without those turnovers. And as nice as those are, they keep our potent offense OFF the field and wear our defense down when our D scores like that so quickly. We are at our best when we are wearing down defenses and we have our offense on the field a lot.... hence why we've been so good in 2nd halves (along with chips adjustments and our fitness).

I don't think we can count on Rodgers making many errors, so I think the turnover battle is a coin flip. CHip takes whats given to him. Carolina just wanted to stop the run, and I think GB will try to take away the deep ball and the pass a lot and bring pressure hard on Sanchez. Bold prediction is that Shady rushes for 100 and wears the D down enough to keep Arod a little frustrated on the sideline. I'll stick to the 30-26 Packers, but I think we have a great shot at going in there and winning.

Has nothing to do with being a Packer backer. I have never gone into another team's thread and pissed all over them in the week leading up to the game ... check my history.

I'm just really confident about this one. I could certainly be wrong (and I will admit it after the fact if that is the case) but I think there are so many things lining up against the Eagles (and for the Packers) that it's going to be a blowout.

 

[unckeyherb]

My prediction is this is the week that the Eagles get grounded. For all their offensive flair last year, the Eagles offense this year has not been very good at all. The amount of turnovers/TDs by special teams and defense has been completely carrying this team and is nowhere near sustainable. One of the reasons for the defensive/special teams success is that the Eagles have played a slew of turnover-happy QBs this year (soft schedule).

Unfortunately, this week they play Rodgers, whom is one of the least turnover-prone QBs in the modern era. Add to that the fact that the Packers are playing spectacularly at home (no losses, with an average margin of victory of 24 points) and it could be a long day for the Philly faithful. In the Eagles two losses the net turnover ratio was negative (in both they got one turnover but gave up more than one). The Packers currently own the 2nd best turnover ratio in the NFL over the first nine weeks, so good luck winning that battle, especially with the Packers at home.

I appear to be one of the few not ready to proclaim the Sanchez switch a success after a few quarters of football. I think he's going to struggle with the game being away and without being gifted solid field position several times per game. As a fourth item, the Packers DEF has had three dominate performances in the last 4 games and are starting to play up to their talent level. I venture to say that the Saints game was an anomaly due to Williams and Shields both being out (hard to play against Brees without your two best cover corners). Both are back on the field.

Packers 34-17

Disagree with your analysis.

The Eagles offense is 4th in the league in scoring. If that is termed as "not good at all" then I think you have some unrealistic expectations. Green Bay is 5th in scoring offense, have they been "not good at all"?

Winning the TO battle is irrelevant to this Eagles team. They've only done it twice all season (week 2 vs. Indy and last week vs. Carolina).

The Eagles IMO have the better offense, defense and special teams. But that being said, they may still lose this game. It's hard to win on the road in the NFL especially a place like Lambeau.

I'll agree with you about the Eagles defense but I don't think their offense is better than Green Bay's offense. You have to keep in mind that the Eagles offense has benefited tremendously from the insane number of turnovers created by the defense and the play of the special teams. Green Bay has an elite QB, 2 elite receivers, a good RB and a pretty good offensive line. The difference in overall scoring between the 2 teams is negligible and would disappear if you adjusted for the turnovers/special teams play. Philly may be a better team but I'd take Green Bay's offense over theirs any day of the week.

Eagles defense has forced 16 TO. Green Bay's defense has forced 18 TO.

The point here is that the Packers would have won every one of the games they won without the forced turnovers. The Eagles games were much closer and they needed the help. The margin of victory for the Packers in their wins is much higher than the Eagles (20 vs 13). \

If neither team had any turnovers, you can't tell me the Eagles are going to score as many points or win as many games.

Jeez just reading your original post reeked of Packer fandom. Didn't even need to click on your thing to see your favourite team to know it was a Packer fan coming in here guns blazing and one sided on their opinion (which was exaggerated only because you are playing us this week).

Most of us are optimistic, yet realistic with this game. We all think the Packers are a good team, will be challenging, and we will need to play our best to beat them.

In terms of the turnovers padding our victories, I think the opposite. We still would have beaten Carolina without those turnovers. And as nice as those are, they keep our potent offense OFF the field and wear our defense down when our D scores like that so quickly. We are at our best when we are wearing down defenses and we have our offense on the field a lot.... hence why we've been so good in 2nd halves (along with chips adjustments and our fitness).

I don't think we can count on Rodgers making many errors, so I think the turnover battle is a coin flip. CHip takes whats given to him. Carolina just wanted to stop the run, and I think GB will try to take away the deep ball and the pass a lot and bring pressure hard on Sanchez. Bold prediction is that Shady rushes for 100 and wears the D down enough to keep Arod a little frustrated on the sideline. I'll stick to the 30-26 Packers, but I think we have a great shot at going in there and winning.

Has nothing to do with being a Packer backer. I have never gone into another team's thread and pissed all over them in the week leading up to the game ... check my history.

I'm just really confident about this one. I could certainly be wrong (and I will admit it after the fact if that is the case) but I think there are so many things lining up against the Eagles (and for the Packers) that it's going to be a blowout.

hah, what are the biggest things that are 'lining up against' the Eagles? Better QB play or a healthier O-line? Gimme a break

 

[Deamon]

Honestly, aside from some beat downs on Chicago and Minnesota with Ponder, and Carolina what have the Packers done that was really impressive?

Barely beat the Jets at home. Needed a last second play to beat Miami. Lost to Detroit and Seattle and New Orleans when they weren't even in the game.

The Eagles have been in every game they've played his year. There have been some games they've played poorly but still managed to stay in it.

The Eagles to me are he better team and Green Bay has a better QB. This is going to be a good game and one that I think the Eagles will come out of as front runners in the NFC.

This is a dumb argument to me. Look at the schedule. PHI has only played three decent teams... Colts, Cards, and 49ers... two losses and a 3-point win.

The Packers have played four good teams so far this year and went 1-3 but EVERY GAME was away. Dolphins, Lions, Saints, and Seahawks were all on the road. It's tough enough having a harder schedule, but getting all of the toughest games on the road is brutal.

Not only has the Packers toughest games been harder than the Eagles toughest games, but the Eagles easier games have been much easier than the Packers (JAX, STL, WAS) compared to CHIx2 and MIN. Chicago might be having troubles now but they are still a tougher team to beat than those other three because of their offensive ability.

It's actually funny how biased your opinions are.

You brag about how with YOUR tough games, "EVERY GAME WAS AWAY!!!".... So do you think it's also brutal for us that all of our toughest games you mentioned (indy/sf/zona) were away too? Or did you not realize that.

 

[Deamon]

My prediction is this is the week that the Eagles get grounded. For all their offensive flair last year, the Eagles offense this year has not been very good at all. The amount of turnovers/TDs by special teams and defense has been completely carrying this team and is nowhere near sustainable. One of the reasons for the defensive/special teams success is that the Eagles have played a slew of turnover-happy QBs this year (soft schedule).

Unfortunately, this week they play Rodgers, whom is one of the least turnover-prone QBs in the modern era. Add to that the fact that the Packers are playing spectacularly at home (no losses, with an average margin of victory of 24 points) and it could be a long day for the Philly faithful. In the Eagles two losses the net turnover ratio was negative (in both they got one turnover but gave up more than one). The Packers currently own the 2nd best turnover ratio in the NFL over the first nine weeks, so good luck winning that battle, especially with the Packers at home.

I appear to be one of the few not ready to proclaim the Sanchez switch a success after a few quarters of football. I think he's going to struggle with the game being away and without being gifted solid field position several times per game. As a fourth item, the Packers DEF has had three dominate performances in the last 4 games and are starting to play up to their talent level. I venture to say that the Saints game was an anomaly due to Williams and Shields both being out (hard to play against Brees without your two best cover corners). Both are back on the field.

Packers 34-17

Disagree with your analysis.

The Eagles offense is 4th in the league in scoring. If that is termed as "not good at all" then I think you have some unrealistic expectations. Green Bay is 5th in scoring offense, have they been "not good at all"?

Winning the TO battle is irrelevant to this Eagles team. They've only done it twice all season (week 2 vs. Indy and last week vs. Carolina).

The Eagles IMO have the better offense, defense and special teams. But that being said, they may still lose this game. It's hard to win on the road in the NFL especially a place like Lambeau.

I'll agree with you about the Eagles defense but I don't think their offense is better than Green Bay's offense. You have to keep in mind that the Eagles offense has benefited tremendously from the insane number of turnovers created by the defense and the play of the special teams. Green Bay has an elite QB, 2 elite receivers, a good RB and a pretty good offensive line. The difference in overall scoring between the 2 teams is negligible and would disappear if you adjusted for the turnovers/special teams play. Philly may be a better team but I'd take Green Bay's offense over theirs any day of the week.

Eagles defense has forced 16 TO. Green Bay's defense has forced 18 TO.

The point here is that the Packers would have won every one of the games they won without the forced turnovers. The Eagles games were much closer and they needed the help. The margin of victory for the Packers in their wins is much higher than the Eagles (20 vs 13). \

If neither team had any turnovers, you can't tell me the Eagles are going to score as many points or win as many games.

Jeez just reading your original post reeked of Packer fandom. Didn't even need to click on your thing to see your favourite team to know it was a Packer fan coming in here guns blazing and one sided on their opinion (which was exaggerated only because you are playing us this week).

Most of us are optimistic, yet realistic with this game. We all think the Packers are a good team, will be challenging, and we will need to play our best to beat them.

In terms of the turnovers padding our victories, I think the opposite. We still would have beaten Carolina without those turnovers. And as nice as those are, they keep our potent offense OFF the field and wear our defense down when our D scores like that so quickly. We are at our best when we are wearing down defenses and we have our offense on the field a lot.... hence why we've been so good in 2nd halves (along with chips adjustments and our fitness).

I don't think we can count on Rodgers making many errors, so I think the turnover battle is a coin flip. CHip takes whats given to him. Carolina just wanted to stop the run, and I think GB will try to take away the deep ball and the pass a lot and bring pressure hard on Sanchez. Bold prediction is that Shady rushes for 100 and wears the D down enough to keep Arod a little frustrated on the sideline. I'll stick to the 30-26 Packers, but I think we have a great shot at going in there and winning.

Has nothing to do with being a Packer backer. I have never gone into another team's thread and pissed all over them in the week leading up to the game ... check my history.

I'm just really confident about this one. I could certainly be wrong (and I will admit it after the fact if that is the case) but I think there are so many things lining up against the Eagles (and for the Packers) that it's going to be a blowout.

Just decided to start this week?

 

[fred_1_15301]

My prediction is this is the week that the Eagles get grounded. For all their offensive flair last year, the Eagles offense this year has not been very good at all. The amount of turnovers/TDs by special teams and defense has been completely carrying this team and is nowhere near sustainable. One of the reasons for the defensive/special teams success is that the Eagles have played a slew of turnover-happy QBs this year (soft schedule).

Unfortunately, this week they play Rodgers, whom is one of the least turnover-prone QBs in the modern era. Add to that the fact that the Packers are playing spectacularly at home (no losses, with an average margin of victory of 24 points) and it could be a long day for the Philly faithful. In the Eagles two losses the net turnover ratio was negative (in both they got one turnover but gave up more than one). The Packers currently own the 2nd best turnover ratio in the NFL over the first nine weeks, so good luck winning that battle, especially with the Packers at home.

I appear to be one of the few not ready to proclaim the Sanchez switch a success after a few quarters of football. I think he's going to struggle with the game being away and without being gifted solid field position several times per game. As a fourth item, the Packers DEF has had three dominate performances in the last 4 games and are starting to play up to their talent level. I venture to say that the Saints game was an anomaly due to Williams and Shields both being out (hard to play against Brees without your two best cover corners). Both are back on the field.

Packers 34-17

Disagree with your analysis.

The Eagles offense is 4th in the league in scoring. If that is termed as "not good at all" then I think you have some unrealistic expectations. Green Bay is 5th in scoring offense, have they been "not good at all"?

Winning the TO battle is irrelevant to this Eagles team. They've only done it twice all season (week 2 vs. Indy and last week vs. Carolina).

The Eagles IMO have the better offense, defense and special teams. But that being said, they may still lose this game. It's hard to win on the road in the NFL especially a place like Lambeau.

I'll agree with you about the Eagles defense but I don't think their offense is better than Green Bay's offense. You have to keep in mind that the Eagles offense has benefited tremendously from the insane number of turnovers created by the defense and the play of the special teams. Green Bay has an elite QB, 2 elite receivers, a good RB and a pretty good offensive line. The difference in overall scoring between the 2 teams is negligible and would disappear if you adjusted for the turnovers/special teams play. Philly may be a better team but I'd take Green Bay's offense over theirs any day of the week.

Eagles defense has forced 16 TO. Green Bay's defense has forced 18 TO.

Wow thanks for correcting me. I even looked that up before posting but will need to recheck my source. Anyways, the Eagles have an advantage with special teams. At a minimum, I think the offenses are similar but the eyeball test for me gives an edge to GB.

 

[Deamon]

Has nothing to do with being a Packer backer. I have never gone into another team's thread and pissed all over them in the week leading up to the game ... check my history.

I'm just really confident about this one. I could certainly be wrong (and I will admit it after the fact if that is the case) but I think there are so many things lining up against the Eagles (and for the Packers) that it's going to be a blowout.

Then come in here and add something to the conversation rather then just trying to come up with ways the Eagles are overrated.

If you're comparing schedules, and pedigree of wins, then you can't say GB's is any better. Right now both teams are clicking and GB looks scary. But you can't say that our successes are way more dependant on turnovers then any other team. We KILLED the T/O battle in SF and lost. Both our losses came to good teams, on the road, down to the last play of the game... but you're blatantly discounting that and only mentioning points that add to your over inflated claim of us being overrated. We could be 9-0 right now if we got a few more inches in two games.

Your team is good, and is favoured and is expected to win. Leave it at that.

 

[IgglesFan]

Honestly, aside from some beat downs on Chicago and Minnesota with Ponder, and Carolina what have the Packers done that was really impressive?

Barely beat the Jets at home. Needed a last second play to beat Miami. Lost to Detroit and Seattle and New Orleans when they weren't even in the game.

The Eagles have been in every game they've played his year. There have been some games they've played poorly but still managed to stay in it.

The Eagles to me are he better team and Green Bay has a better QB. This is going to be a good game and one that I think the Eagles will come out of as front runners in the NFC.

This is a dumb argument to me. Look at the schedule. PHI has only played three decent teams... Colts, Cards, and 49ers... two losses and a 3-point win.

Well, if you are going to start name-calling, dumb isn't a word I would use if I were you. The Eagles two losses were games where they travelled cross-country, a notoriously difficult journey. That said, they could have easily won both those games had things been just a tad different. They played two quality opponents exceptionally well.

Oh, and they beat Indy in the dome in primetime.

For a 7-2 team that could easily be 9-0, they are playing some quality football.

 

[packersfan]

Looking forward to the game. I don't think either defense does much. Should be a lot of scoring. Other than the Lions' game, the Packers' D has been awful against good offenses with high-scoring potential. The Eagles' D has been opportunistic but Rodgers is on an incredible streak of protecting the ball at Lambeau.

Big playoff-type test for both teams. Should be a lot of fun.

 

[unckeyherb]

Eagles have 32 sacks on the season. Only buffalo with 34 have more. Who'd have thought at the beginning of the season that we'd be getting that much penetration on the dline?

 

[Snotbubbles]

Honestly, aside from some beat downs on Chicago and Minnesota with Ponder, and Carolina what have the Packers done that was really impressive?

Barely beat the Jets at home. Needed a last second play to beat Miami. Lost to Detroit and Seattle and New Orleans when they weren't even in the game.

The Eagles have been in every game they've played his year. There have been some games they've played poorly but still managed to stay in it.

The Eagles to me are he better team and Green Bay has a better QB. This is going to be a good game and one that I think the Eagles will come out of as front runners in the NFC.

This is a dumb argument to me. Look at the schedule. PHI has only played three decent teams... Colts, Cards, and 49ers... two losses and a 3-point win.

The Packers have played four good teams so far this year and went 1-3 but EVERY GAME was away. Dolphins, Lions, Saints, and Seahawks were all on the road. It's tough enough having a harder schedule, but getting all of the toughest games on the road is brutal.

Not only has the Packers toughest games been harder than the Eagles toughest games, but the Eagles easier games have been much easier than the Packers (JAX, STL, WAS) compared to CHIx2 and MIN. Chicago might be having troubles now but they are still a tougher team to beat than those other three because of their offensive ability.

Wait...we're calling the 4-5 Saints a good team? Wouldn't that mean that the 4-5 Houston Texans are a good team? There may be arguments to make for Green Bay, but SOS isn't one of them.

Eagles played IND, ARI, SF and HOU on the road. That's a bit harder than GB.

 

[dhockster]

My prediction is this is the week that the Eagles get grounded. For all their offensive flair last year, the Eagles offense this year has not been very good at all. The amount of turnovers/TDs by special teams and defense has been completely carrying this team and is nowhere near sustainable. One of the reasons for the defensive/special teams success is that the Eagles have played a slew of turnover-happy QBs this year (soft schedule).

Unfortunately, this week they play Rodgers, whom is one of the least turnover-prone QBs in the modern era. Add to that the fact that the Packers are playing spectacularly at home (no losses, with an average margin of victory of 24 points) and it could be a long day for the Philly faithful. In the Eagles two losses the net turnover ratio was negative (in both they got one turnover but gave up more than one). The Packers currently own the 2nd best turnover ratio in the NFL over the first nine weeks, so good luck winning that battle, especially with the Packers at home.

I appear to be one of the few not ready to proclaim the Sanchez switch a success after a few quarters of football. I think he's going to struggle with the game being away and without being gifted solid field position several times per game. As a fourth item, the Packers DEF has had three dominate performances in the last 4 games and are starting to play up to their talent level. I venture to say that the Saints game was an anomaly due to Williams and Shields both being out (hard to play against Brees without your two best cover corners). Both are back on the field.

Packers 34-17

A couple points:

-The Eagles has not been able to run as effectively as last year, true, but they have still moved the ball. They have turned the ball over 21 times with quite a few in the red zone. This cost them the Arizona game. The SF game was the only

game they were shut down and they turned the ball over 4 times, and yet still were 2 plays from a yard out from winning that game.

-Sanchez may struggle in Green Bay. I could see that. Playing on the road at one of the toughest venues in the NFL, in poor throwing conditions, against a quality opponent, a poor performance would not be a surprise at all. But that does

not mean that he is not going to have success as the Eagles Back-up.

-I also see the Pack winning mainly because I don't see the running game getting on track against the Pack in Green Bay and throwing conditions will not be good for the passing game. I think Rodgers does enough to overcome the conditions, the Eagles pass rush, and the Eagles special teams to win a low scoring game 20-13.

-I would also not be surprised to see the Eagles pull an upset, because this is one of the toughest mental teams from player one to player fifty-three that I have seen the Eagles field.

 

[Phenomena]

Honestly, aside from some beat downs on Chicago and Minnesota with Ponder, and Carolina what have the Packers done that was really impressive?

Barely beat the Jets at home. Needed a last second play to beat Miami. Lost to Detroit and Seattle and New Orleans when they weren't even in the game.

The Eagles have been in every game they've played his year. There have been some games they've played poorly but still managed to stay in it.

The Eagles to me are he better team and Green Bay has a better QB. This is going to be a good game and one that I think the Eagles will come out of as front runners in the NFC.

This is a dumb argument to me. Look at the schedule. PHI has only played three decent teams... Colts, Cards, and 49ers... two losses and a 3-point win.

The Packers have played four good teams so far this year and went 1-3 but EVERY GAME was away. Dolphins, Lions, Saints, and Seahawks were all on the road. It's tough enough having a harder schedule, but getting all of the toughest games on the road is brutal.

Not only has the Packers toughest games been harder than the Eagles toughest games, but the Eagles easier games have been much easier than the Packers (JAX, STL, WAS) compared to CHIx2 and MIN. Chicago might be having troubles now but they are still a tougher team to beat than those other three because of their offensive ability.

Wait...we're calling the 4-5 Saints a good team? Wouldn't that mean that the 4-5 Houston Texans are a good team? There may be arguments to make for Green Bay, but SOS isn't one of them.

Eagles played IND, ARI, SF and HOU on the road. That's a bit harder than GB.

Saints are going to win their division. That makes them a good team.

Texans are junk. No QB.

 

[dhockster]

Saints are going to win their division. That makes them a good team.

Texans are junk. No QB.

Are you just arguing to argue? Because if you really believe the bolded, I'm not sure what else to say.

I could have accepted "the Saints have Drew Brees so that makes them a tough team" or "the Saints are a different team when they play at home".

But that was not your argument.

 

[jasvic]

Not sure if serious or we're watching a master troll at work.

 

[unckeyherb]

Honestly, aside from some beat downs on Chicago and Minnesota with Ponder, and Carolina what have the Packers done that was really impressive?

Barely beat the Jets at home. Needed a last second play to beat Miami. Lost to Detroit and Seattle and New Orleans when they weren't even in the game.

The Eagles have been in every game they've played his year. There have been some games they've played poorly but still managed to stay in it.

The Eagles to me are he better team and Green Bay has a better QB. This is going to be a good game and one that I think the Eagles will come out of as front runners in the NFC.

This is a dumb argument to me. Look at the schedule. PHI has only played three decent teams... Colts, Cards, and 49ers... two losses and a 3-point win.

The Packers have played four good teams so far this year and went 1-3 but EVERY GAME was away. Dolphins, Lions, Saints, and Seahawks were all on the road. It's tough enough having a harder schedule, but getting all of the toughest games on the road is brutal.

Not only has the Packers toughest games been harder than the Eagles toughest games, but the Eagles easier games have been much easier than the Packers (JAX, STL, WAS) compared to CHIx2 and MIN. Chicago might be having troubles now but they are still a tougher team to beat than those other three because of their offensive ability.

Wait...we're calling the 4-5 Saints a good team? Wouldn't that mean that the 4-5 Houston Texans are a good team? There may be arguments to make for Green Bay, but SOS isn't one of them.

Eagles played IND, ARI, SF and HOU on the road. That's a bit harder than GB.

Saints are going to win their division. That makes them a good team.Texans are junk. No QB.

This is the worst post I've seen in a long time.

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

Disagree with your analysis.

The Eagles offense is 4th in the league in scoring. If that is termed as "not good at all" then I think you have some unrealistic expectations. Green Bay is 5th in scoring offense, have they been "not good at all"?

Winning the TO battle is irrelevant to this Eagles team. They've only done it twice all season (week 2 vs. Indy and last week vs. Carolina).

The Eagles IMO have the better offense, defense and special teams. But that being said, they may still lose this game. It's hard to win on the road in the NFL especially a place like Lambeau.

not arguing any points here but u sure about this? they're outside of top 10 in both passing and rushing TD's so probably 4th in total scoring including special teams and defensive td's, not offensive scoring. that defense has been very opportunistic.

 

[Terpman22]

32 sacks we do have, but I believe 17 (more than half) came in two games.

 

[Bushead]

Disagree with your analysis.

The Eagles offense is 4th in the league in scoring. If that is termed as "not good at all" then I think you have some unrealistic expectations. Green Bay is 5th in scoring offense, have they been "not good at all"?

Winning the TO battle is irrelevant to this Eagles team. They've only done it twice all season (week 2 vs. Indy and last week vs. Carolina).

The Eagles IMO have the better offense, defense and special teams. But that being said, they may still lose this game. It's hard to win on the road in the NFL especially a place like Lambeau.

not arguing any points here but u sure about this? they're outside of top 10 in both passing and rushing TD's so probably 4th in total scoring including special teams and defensive td's, not offensive scoring. that defense has been very opportunistic.

i believe you are correct, nfl.com lumps them all into "offensive scoring" for some reason. They are 5th in offensive ypg, but have had some red zone issues both punching it in and turning it over. They appear to be getting better from that aspect recently though

 

[Insein]

Honestly, aside from some beat downs on Chicago and Minnesota with Ponder, and Carolina what have the Packers done that was really impressive?

Barely beat the Jets at home. Needed a last second play to beat Miami. Lost to Detroit and Seattle and New Orleans when they weren't even in the game.

The Eagles have been in every game they've played his year. There have been some games they've played poorly but still managed to stay in it.

The Eagles to me are he better team and Green Bay has a better QB. This is going to be a good game and one that I think the Eagles will come out of as front runners in the NFC.

This is a dumb argument to me. Look at the schedule. PHI has only played three decent teams... Colts, Cards, and 49ers... two losses and a 3-point win.

The Packers have played four good teams so far this year and went 1-3 but EVERY GAME was away. Dolphins, Lions, Saints, and Seahawks were all on the road. It's tough enough having a harder schedule, but getting all of the toughest games on the road is brutal.

Not only has the Packers toughest games been harder than the Eagles toughest games, but the Eagles easier games have been much easier than the Packers (JAX, STL, WAS) compared to CHIx2 and MIN. Chicago might be having troubles now but they are still a tougher team to beat than those other three because of their offensive ability.

Wtf are you talking about?

Eagles are 1-2 against good teams but kept it close. Packers are 1-3 against good teams by got blown out in their losses. That's your argument Packers are better?

 

[Deamon]

Honestly, aside from some beat downs on Chicago and Minnesota with Ponder, and Carolina what have the Packers done that was really impressive?

Barely beat the Jets at home. Needed a last second play to beat Miami. Lost to Detroit and Seattle and New Orleans when they weren't even in the game.

The Eagles have been in every game they've played his year. There have been some games they've played poorly but still managed to stay in it.

The Eagles to me are he better team and Green Bay has a better QB. This is going to be a good game and one that I think the Eagles will come out of as front runners in the NFC.

This is a dumb argument to me. Look at the schedule. PHI has only played three decent teams... Colts, Cards, and 49ers... two losses and a 3-point win.

The Packers have played four good teams so far this year and went 1-3 but EVERY GAME was away. Dolphins, Lions, Saints, and Seahawks were all on the road. It's tough enough having a harder schedule, but getting all of the toughest games on the road is brutal.

Not only has the Packers toughest games been harder than the Eagles toughest games, but the Eagles easier games have been much easier than the Packers (JAX, STL, WAS) compared to CHIx2 and MIN. Chicago might be having troubles now but they are still a tougher team to beat than those other three because of their offensive ability.

Wtf are you talking about?

Eagles are 1-2 against good teams but kept it close. Packers are 1-3 against good teams by got blown out in their losses. That's your argument Packers are better?

Oh don't forget, those 'vs good team' games for GB were on the road and Philly's were at ho.... oh nevermind.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Disagree with your analysis.

The Eagles offense is 4th in the league in scoring. If that is termed as "not good at all" then I think you have some unrealistic expectations. Green Bay is 5th in scoring offense, have they been "not good at all"?

Winning the TO battle is irrelevant to this Eagles team. They've only done it twice all season (week 2 vs. Indy and last week vs. Carolina).

The Eagles IMO have the better offense, defense and special teams. But that being said, they may still lose this game. It's hard to win on the road in the NFL especially a place like Lambeau.

not arguing any points here but u sure about this? they're outside of top 10 in both passing and rushing TD's so probably 4th in total scoring including special teams and defensive td's, not offensive scoring. that defense has been very opportunistic.

This is the site I use: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/phi/2014.htm

 

[fred_1_15301]

Disagree with your analysis.

The Eagles offense is 4th in the league in scoring. If that is termed as "not good at all" then I think you have some unrealistic expectations. Green Bay is 5th in scoring offense, have they been "not good at all"?

Winning the TO battle is irrelevant to this Eagles team. They've only done it twice all season (week 2 vs. Indy and last week vs. Carolina).

The Eagles IMO have the better offense, defense and special teams. But that being said, they may still lose this game. It's hard to win on the road in the NFL especially a place like Lambeau.

not arguing any points here but u sure about this? they're outside of top 10 in both passing and rushing TD's so probably 4th in total scoring including special teams and defensive td's, not offensive scoring. that defense has been very opportunistic.

This is the site I use: http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/phi/2014.htm

Yeah the 279 is the total points (including offense, defense and special teams).

 

[Insein]

Couple of my buddies are going to the game tomorrow. Its snowing in Green Bay tonight. So naturally they're hitting the bars and going around writing "#12 sucks" in the snow on all the cars they walk by. Juvenile but .

 

[Phenomena]

My prediction is this is the week that the Eagles get grounded. For all their offensive flair last year, the Eagles offense this year has not been very good at all. The amount of turnovers/TDs by special teams and defense has been completely carrying this team and is nowhere near sustainable. One of the reasons for the defensive/special teams success is that the Eagles have played a slew of turnover-happy QBs this year (soft schedule).

Unfortunately, this week they play Rodgers, whom is one of the least turnover-prone QBs in the modern era. Add to that the fact that the Packers are playing spectacularly at home (no losses, with an average margin of victory of 24 points) and it could be a long day for the Philly faithful. In the Eagles two losses the net turnover ratio was negative (in both they got one turnover but gave up more than one). The Packers currently own the 2nd best turnover ratio in the NFL over the first nine weeks, so good luck winning that battle, especially with the Packers at home.

I appear to be one of the few not ready to proclaim the Sanchez switch a success after a few quarters of football. I think he's going to struggle with the game being away and without being gifted solid field position several times per game. As a fourth item, the Packers DEF has had three dominate performances in the last 4 games and are starting to play up to their talent level. I venture to say that the Saints game was an anomaly due to Williams and Shields both being out (hard to play against Brees without your two best cover corners). Both are back on the field.

Packers 34-17

Disagree with your analysis.

The Eagles offense is 4th in the league in scoring. If that is termed as "not good at all" then I think you have some unrealistic expectations. Green Bay is 5th in scoring offense, have they been "not good at all"?

Winning the TO battle is irrelevant to this Eagles team. They've only done it twice all season (week 2 vs. Indy and last week vs. Carolina).

The Eagles IMO have the better offense, defense and special teams. But that being said, they may still lose this game. It's hard to win on the road in the NFL especially a place like Lambeau.

I'll agree with you about the Eagles defense but I don't think their offense is better than Green Bay's offense. You have to keep in mind that the Eagles offense has benefited tremendously from the insane number of turnovers created by the defense and the play of the special teams. Green Bay has an elite QB, 2 elite receivers, a good RB and a pretty good offensive line. The difference in overall scoring between the 2 teams is negligible and would disappear if you adjusted for the turnovers/special teams play. Philly may be a better team but I'd take Green Bay's offense over theirs any day of the week.

Eagles defense has forced 16 TO. Green Bay's defense has forced 18 TO.

The point here is that the Packers would have won every one of the games they won without the forced turnovers. The Eagles games were much closer and they needed the help. The margin of victory for the Packers in their wins is much higher than the Eagles (20 vs 13). \

If neither team had any turnovers, you can't tell me the Eagles are going to score as many points or win as many games.

Jeez just reading your original post reeked of Packer fandom. Didn't even need to click on your thing to see your favourite team to know it was a Packer fan coming in here guns blazing and one sided on their opinion (which was exaggerated only because you are playing us this week).

Most of us are optimistic, yet realistic with this game. We all think the Packers are a good team, will be challenging, and we will need to play our best to beat them.

In terms of the turnovers padding our victories, I think the opposite. We still would have beaten Carolina without those turnovers. And as nice as those are, they keep our potent offense OFF the field and wear our defense down when our D scores like that so quickly. We are at our best when we are wearing down defenses and we have our offense on the field a lot.... hence why we've been so good in 2nd halves (along with chips adjustments and our fitness).

I don't think we can count on Rodgers making many errors, so I think the turnover battle is a coin flip. CHip takes whats given to him. Carolina just wanted to stop the run, and I think GB will try to take away the deep ball and the pass a lot and bring pressure hard on Sanchez. Bold prediction is that Shady rushes for 100 and wears the D down enough to keep Arod a little frustrated on the sideline. I'll stick to the 30-26 Packers, but I think we have a great shot at going in there and winning.

Has nothing to do with being a Packer backer. I have never gone into another team's thread and pissed all over them in the week leading up to the game ... check my history.

I'm just really confident about this one. I could certainly be wrong (and I will admit it after the fact if that is the case) but I think there are so many things lining up against the Eagles (and for the Packers) that it's going to be a blowout.

Just decided to start this week?

Yup. Because I knew it was going to be a blowout.

17-0 in the first quarter.

It hurts to be so right sometimes.

You can apologize now.

 

[Amused to Death]

My prediction is this is the week that the Eagles get grounded. For all their offensive flair last year, the Eagles offense this year has not been very good at all. The amount of turnovers/TDs by special teams and defense has been completely carrying this team and is nowhere near sustainable. One of the reasons for the defensive/special teams success is that the Eagles have played a slew of turnover-happy QBs this year (soft schedule).

Unfortunately, this week they play Rodgers, whom is one of the least turnover-prone QBs in the modern era. Add to that the fact that the Packers are playing spectacularly at home (no losses, with an average margin of victory of 24 points) and it could be a long day for the Philly faithful. In the Eagles two losses the net turnover ratio was negative (in both they got one turnover but gave up more than one). The Packers currently own the 2nd best turnover ratio in the NFL over the first nine weeks, so good luck winning that battle, especially with the Packers at home.

I appear to be one of the few not ready to proclaim the Sanchez switch a success after a few quarters of football. I think he's going to struggle with the game being away and without being gifted solid field position several times per game. As a fourth item, the Packers DEF has had three dominate performances in the last 4 games and are starting to play up to their talent level. I venture to say that the Saints game was an anomaly due to Williams and Shields both being out (hard to play against Brees without your two best cover corners). Both are back on the field.

Packers 34-17

Disagree with your analysis.

The Eagles offense is 4th in the league in scoring. If that is termed as "not good at all" then I think you have some unrealistic expectations. Green Bay is 5th in scoring offense, have they been "not good at all"?

Winning the TO battle is irrelevant to this Eagles team. They've only done it twice all season (week 2 vs. Indy and last week vs. Carolina).

The Eagles IMO have the better offense, defense and special teams. But that being said, they may still lose this game. It's hard to win on the road in the NFL especially a place like Lambeau.

I'll agree with you about the Eagles defense but I don't think their offense is better than Green Bay's offense. You have to keep in mind that the Eagles offense has benefited tremendously from the insane number of turnovers created by the defense and the play of the special teams. Green Bay has an elite QB, 2 elite receivers, a good RB and a pretty good offensive line. The difference in overall scoring between the 2 teams is negligible and would disappear if you adjusted for the turnovers/special teams play. Philly may be a better team but I'd take Green Bay's offense over theirs any day of the week.

Eagles defense has forced 16 TO. Green Bay's defense has forced 18 TO.

The point here is that the Packers would have won every one of the games they won without the forced turnovers. The Eagles games were much closer and they needed the help. The margin of victory for the Packers in their wins is much higher than the Eagles (20 vs 13). \

If neither team had any turnovers, you can't tell me the Eagles are going to score as many points or win as many games.

Jeez just reading your original post reeked of Packer fandom. Didn't even need to click on your thing to see your favourite team to know it was a Packer fan coming in here guns blazing and one sided on their opinion (which was exaggerated only because you are playing us this week).

Most of us are optimistic, yet realistic with this game. We all think the Packers are a good team, will be challenging, and we will need to play our best to beat them.

In terms of the turnovers padding our victories, I think the opposite. We still would have beaten Carolina without those turnovers. And as nice as those are, they keep our potent offense OFF the field and wear our defense down when our D scores like that so quickly. We are at our best when we are wearing down defenses and we have our offense on the field a lot.... hence why we've been so good in 2nd halves (along with chips adjustments and our fitness).

I don't think we can count on Rodgers making many errors, so I think the turnover battle is a coin flip. CHip takes whats given to him. Carolina just wanted to stop the run, and I think GB will try to take away the deep ball and the pass a lot and bring pressure hard on Sanchez. Bold prediction is that Shady rushes for 100 and wears the D down enough to keep Arod a little frustrated on the sideline. I'll stick to the 30-26 Packers, but I think we have a great shot at going in there and winning.

Has nothing to do with being a Packer backer. I have never gone into another team's thread and pissed all over them in the week leading up to the game ... check my history.

I'm just really confident about this one. I could certainly be wrong (and I will admit it after the fact if that is the case) but I think there are so many things lining up against the Eagles (and for the Packers) that it's going to be a blowout.

Just decided to start this week?

Yup. Because I knew it was going to be a blowout.

17-0 in the first quarter.

It hurts to be so right sometimes.

You can apologize now.

GTFO. Troll.

 

[Phenomena]

My prediction is this is the week that the Eagles get grounded. For all their offensive flair last year, the Eagles offense this year has not been very good at all. The amount of turnovers/TDs by special teams and defense has been completely carrying this team and is nowhere near sustainable. One of the reasons for the defensive/special teams success is that the Eagles have played a slew of turnover-happy QBs this year (soft schedule).

Unfortunately, this week they play Rodgers, whom is one of the least turnover-prone QBs in the modern era. Add to that the fact that the Packers are playing spectacularly at home (no losses, with an average margin of victory of 24 points) and it could be a long day for the Philly faithful. In the Eagles two losses the net turnover ratio was negative (in both they got one turnover but gave up more than one). The Packers currently own the 2nd best turnover ratio in the NFL over the first nine weeks, so good luck winning that battle, especially with the Packers at home.

I appear to be one of the few not ready to proclaim the Sanchez switch a success after a few quarters of football. I think he's going to struggle with the game being away and without being gifted solid field position several times per game. As a fourth item, the Packers DEF has had three dominate performances in the last 4 games and are starting to play up to their talent level. I venture to say that the Saints game was an anomaly due to Williams and Shields both being out (hard to play against Brees without your two best cover corners). Both are back on the field.

Packers 34-17

Disagree with your analysis.

The Eagles offense is 4th in the league in scoring. If that is termed as "not good at all" then I think you have some unrealistic expectations. Green Bay is 5th in scoring offense, have they been "not good at all"?

Winning the TO battle is irrelevant to this Eagles team. They've only done it twice all season (week 2 vs. Indy and last week vs. Carolina).

The Eagles IMO have the better offense, defense and special teams. But that being said, they may still lose this game. It's hard to win on the road in the NFL especially a place like Lambeau.

I'll agree with you about the Eagles defense but I don't think their offense is better than Green Bay's offense. You have to keep in mind that the Eagles offense has benefited tremendously from the insane number of turnovers created by the defense and the play of the special teams. Green Bay has an elite QB, 2 elite receivers, a good RB and a pretty good offensive line. The difference in overall scoring between the 2 teams is negligible and would disappear if you adjusted for the turnovers/special teams play. Philly may be a better team but I'd take Green Bay's offense over theirs any day of the week.

Eagles defense has forced 16 TO. Green Bay's defense has forced 18 TO.

The point here is that the Packers would have won every one of the games they won without the forced turnovers. The Eagles games were much closer and they needed the help. The margin of victory for the Packers in their wins is much higher than the Eagles (20 vs 13). \

If neither team had any turnovers, you can't tell me the Eagles are going to score as many points or win as many games.

Jeez just reading your original post reeked of Packer fandom. Didn't even need to click on your thing to see your favourite team to know it was a Packer fan coming in here guns blazing and one sided on their opinion (which was exaggerated only because you are playing us this week).

Most of us are optimistic, yet realistic with this game. We all think the Packers are a good team, will be challenging, and we will need to play our best to beat them.

In terms of the turnovers padding our victories, I think the opposite. We still would have beaten Carolina without those turnovers. And as nice as those are, they keep our potent offense OFF the field and wear our defense down when our D scores like that so quickly. We are at our best when we are wearing down defenses and we have our offense on the field a lot.... hence why we've been so good in 2nd halves (along with chips adjustments and our fitness).

I don't think we can count on Rodgers making many errors, so I think the turnover battle is a coin flip. CHip takes whats given to him. Carolina just wanted to stop the run, and I think GB will try to take away the deep ball and the pass a lot and bring pressure hard on Sanchez. Bold prediction is that Shady rushes for 100 and wears the D down enough to keep Arod a little frustrated on the sideline. I'll stick to the 30-26 Packers, but I think we have a great shot at going in there and winning.

Has nothing to do with being a Packer backer. I have never gone into another team's thread and pissed all over them in the week leading up to the game ... check my history.

I'm just really confident about this one. I could certainly be wrong (and I will admit it after the fact if that is the case) but I think there are so many things lining up against the Eagles (and for the Packers) that it's going to be a blowout.

Just decided to start this week?

Yup. Because I knew it was going to be a blowout.

17-0 in the first quarter.

It hurts to be so right sometimes.

You can apologize now.

GTFO. Troll.

When someone calls their shot a week ahead of time you have to give them that respect.

Enjoy Sanchez the rest of the year.

 

[meatwad1]

Well, looks like you fools have been exposed. This is a butt smearing violation, not a game. What a disaster for you....it is hard to win the SuperBowl when you get destroyed like this at this point in the season.

 

[Insein]

Well, looks like you fools have been exposed. This is a butt smearing violation, not a game. What a disaster for you....it is hard to win the SuperBowl when you get destroyed like this at this point in the season.

Got #### in your own pool.

 

[Amused to Death]

Well, looks like you fools have been exposed. This is a butt smearing violation, not a game. What a disaster for you....it is hard to win the SuperBowl when you get destroyed like this at this point in the season.

Got #### in your own pool.

Eagles fans discuss our team in our own thread, express optimism with a big game looming while the team's 7-2. Have a bad game in tough stadium and all the ####### trolls come out.

SMH

 

[renesauz]

Most team's have one or two inexplicably bad performances in the course of a season. Might as well have ours on the road in a game we needed to be perfect in to win.

 

[Amused to Death]

Huff has no value.