***Official 2014 World Cup Thread*** (1 Viewer)

[Norman Paperman]

So as a soccer newbie, should anything have come of that ball hitting that guy's hand off the deflection in the box?

Mexico is a bad call or fluke goal from getting totally hosed here.

Just got away with a handball - if that had been against Brazil, it would have been a straight red and PK.

Unfortunately handball has become like a catch in the NFL, noone really knows what it is...

To me it was away from his body and deflected a shot. PK

To some it was too close, "ball to hand", could not get it out of the way and unintentional. No PK.

If it was against Brazil, clear PK - it was a close call, definitely deflection, but also hand away from body, which is usually called.

 

[The Gator]

I still feel that Ramsay only drafted Martins Indi because he was wasted and thought it read Martini

 

[El Floppo]

well deserved win by the messkins there. looked like the mexico of older days, moving the ball quickly and making smart runs. very tactically sound as well.

 

[B Maverick]

well deserved win by the messkins there. looked like the mexico of older days, moving the ball quickly and making smart runs. very tactically sound as well.

agreed. Deserved the win.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Taylor And Ruud. That's like having Al Bundy sitting beside Walter Payton.

 

[El Floppo]

Spain team v Holland: Spain team: Casillas, Azplicueta, Piqué, Sergio Ramos, Jordi Alba, Busquets, Alonso, Xavi, Silva, Iniesta, Diego Costa

Holland team: Cillessen, Vlaar, De Vrij, Martins Indi, Blind, De Jong, Janmaat, De Guzman, Van Persie, Sneijder, Robben

I'm not as familiar with the Dutch XI as I am used to being in these tournaments - several unknowns.

watched them play a few weeks ago... surprised by how young,quick and strong they were. don't think sneijder or robben played in that one.

 

[B Maverick]

So as a soccer newbie, should anything have come of that ball hitting that guy's hand off the deflection in the box?

Mexico is a bad call or fluke goal from getting totally hosed here.

Just got away with a handball - if that had been against Brazil, it would have been a straight red and PK.

Unfortunately handball has become like a catch in the NFL, noone really knows what it is...

To me it was away from his body and deflected a shot. PK

To some it was too close, "ball to hand", could not get it out of the way and unintentional. No PK.

for me it's if the hand is away from his body and making himself "bigger"- gaining advantage.

this one seemed like the hand was trailing behind- granted, away from his body- and took a deflection to hit it. I don't think he was making himself bigger, so no PK for me.

Can understand that as well. Just too much gray area with how they keep changing the rules, much like a catch in the nfl

 

[NewlyRetired]

well deserved win by the messkins there. looked like the mexico of older days, moving the ball quickly and making smart runs. very tactically sound as well.

agreed. Deserved the win.

Best they have looked in a long time. Very well deserved win and should have been by more.

 

[B Maverick]

Taylor And Ruud. That's like having Al Bundy sitting beside Walter Payton.

well said cant click enough "likes"

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

I still feel that Ramsay only drafted Martins Indi because he was wasted and thought it read Martini

FIFA 14 mainstay.

 

[El Floppo]

Spain team v Holland: Spain team: Casillas, Azplicueta, Piqué, Sergio Ramos, Jordi Alba, Busquets, Alonso, Xavi, Silva, Iniesta, Diego Costa

Holland team: Cillessen, Vlaar, De Vrij, Martins Indi, Blind, De Jong, Janmaat, De Guzman, Van Persie, Sneijder, Robben

I'm not as familiar with the Dutch XI as I am used to being in these tournaments - several unknowns.

I doubt the World Cup credentials of any team starting Concrete Ron Vlaar.

yeah... you'd have to be Blind to get behind that team.

 

[TLEF316]

Hey twellman....wear more hair product...

 

[Norman Paperman]

Taylor And Ruud. That's like having Al Bundy sitting beside Walter Payton.

Only if taylor ever scored 4 goals in one game...

 

[El Floppo]

Taylor And Ruud. That's like having Al Bundy sitting beside Walter Payton.

well said cant click enough "likes"

I never liked Ruud that much- and seems more like Twellman than unlike. Johnny-on-the-spot type players (yeah, Nistelroy with more skills) who run around a bit and score some goals, but don't overwhelm with exciting ball skills.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Any chance Holland tries to play or are we looking at the WC 2010 final again?

 

[Norman Paperman]

I am rooting for Spain, because I like their team, but I am also hoping LVG bombs in the WC, just to give the United fans something to think about for next season...

 

[B Maverick]

well deserved win by the messkins there. looked like the mexico of older days, moving the ball quickly and making smart runs. very tactically sound as well.

agreed. Deserved the win.

Best they have looked in a long time. Very well deserved win and should have been by more.

makes it tougher for Croatia to get through.

 

[El Floppo]

Any chance Holland tries to play or are we looking at the WC 2010 final again?

I think they try to emulate the Brazil (confed cup) and Bayern approach- high pressure, run yourself into the ground on both sides of the ball and try to maintain as much possession as possible.

 

[roadkill1292]

I'm using up my Likes quota in this thread.

4,000 replies and we're two games in. NR must be beaming with pride.

Christo's guy almost scored for Cameroon. That would have been something.

 

[B Maverick]

Taylor And Ruud. That's like having Al Bundy sitting beside Walter Payton.

well said cant click enough "likes"

I never liked Ruud that much- and seems more like Twellman than unlike. Johnny-on-the-spot type players (yeah, Nistelroy with more skills) who run around a bit and score some goals, but don't overwhelm with exciting ball skills.

Always been a fan of RUUUUDDDDD!

Excellent goal scorer, not a messi or ronaldo type but if you needed a goal he was one you felt would get it. Very few with that quality

 

[El Floppo]

well deserved win by the messkins there. looked like the mexico of older days, moving the ball quickly and making smart runs. very tactically sound as well.

agreed. Deserved the win.

Best they have looked in a long time. Very well deserved win and should have been by more.

makes it tougher for Croatia to get through.

I don't see Croatia sitting back the way Cameroon did. We'll see what mexco can do with some pressure- they haven't seemed to handle it for a long time... but maybe this one game with some time under Herrerra is more indicative of where they're going than where they've been.

 

[B Maverick]

I am rooting for Spain, because I like their team, but I am also hoping LVG bombs in the WC, just to give the United fans something to think about for next season...

UNLIKE UNLIKE UNLIKE!

 

[El Floppo]

Taylor And Ruud. That's like having Al Bundy sitting beside Walter Payton.

well said cant click enough "likes"

I never liked Ruud that much- and seems more like Twellman than unlike. Johnny-on-the-spot type players (yeah, Nistelroy with more skills) who run around a bit and score some goals, but don't overwhelm with exciting ball skills.

Always been a fan of RUUUUDDDDD!

Excellent goal scorer, not a messi or ronaldo type but if you needed a goal he was one you felt would get it. Very few with that quality

You mean... like Twellman?

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Any chance Holland tries to play or are we looking at the WC 2010 final again?

Sure there's a chance. Big teams playing each other in the group stage will always be a bit cautious, but I think in this case they have legit concerns with Chile.

 

[B Maverick]

Taylor And Ruud. That's like having Al Bundy sitting beside Walter Payton.

well said cant click enough "likes"

I never liked Ruud that much- and seems more like Twellman than unlike. Johnny-on-the-spot type players (yeah, Nistelroy with more skills) who run around a bit and score some goals, but don't overwhelm with exciting ball skills.

Always been a fan of RUUUUDDDDD!

Excellent goal scorer, not a messi or ronaldo type but if you needed a goal he was one you felt would get it. Very few with that quality

You mean... like Twellman?

there are no americans outside mcbride that i felt could score an important goal like ruud. (not a LD fan, but he did come up big at times)

Never really paid much attention to Twellman. and Now I wish I could get him off my screen. So bad

 

[NewlyRetired]

Scroll on ESPN says Beckenbauer has been suspended by FIFA for not coorperating on the Qatar investigation.

 

[Norman Paperman]

Scroll on ESPN says Beckenbauer has been suspended by FIFA for not coorperating on the Qatar investigation.

Yep - reading elsewhere that he voted for the US after the first-round - not sure how accurate. I know this is for failing to answer questions from the investigator - claiming he did not understand the questions in English.

 

[B Maverick]

Scroll on ESPN says Beckenbauer has been suspended by FIFA for not coorperating on the Qatar investigation.

90 days or something stupid like that

 

[El Floppo]

Taylor And Ruud. That's like having Al Bundy sitting beside Walter Payton.

well said cant click enough "likes"

I never liked Ruud that much- and seems more like Twellman than unlike. Johnny-on-the-spot type players (yeah, Nistelroy with more skills) who run around a bit and score some goals, but don't overwhelm with exciting ball skills.

Always been a fan of RUUUUDDDDD!

Excellent goal scorer, not a messi or ronaldo type but if you needed a goal he was one you felt would get it. Very few with that quality

You mean... like Twellman?

there are no americans outside mcbride that i felt could score an important goal like ruud. (not a LD fan, but he did come up big at times)

Never really paid much attention to Twellman. and Now I wish I could get him off my screen. So bad

Twellman never really played in big games or for a big club, so tough to say what he might have done (tbh, he wasn't really good enough to). But that guy scored a lot of goals of the unflashy variety- that's where my comparison lies.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Taylor And Ruud. That's like having Al Bundy sitting beside Walter Payton.

well said cant click enough "likes"

I never liked Ruud that much- and seems more like Twellman than unlike. Johnny-on-the-spot type players (yeah, Nistelroy with more skills) who run around a bit and score some goals, but don't overwhelm with exciting ball skills.

Always been a fan of RUUUUDDDDD!Excellent goal scorer, not a messi or ronaldo type but if you needed a goal he was one you felt would get it. Very few with that quality

You mean... like Twellman?

The joke is that Twellman did it in MLS (like Bundy did it in high school), while Ruud did against the best players in the world.

 

[NewlyRetired]

Scroll on ESPN says Beckenbauer has been suspended by FIFA for not coorperating on the Qatar investigation.

Yep - reading elsewhere that he voted for the US after the first-round - not sure how accurate. I know this is for failing to answer questions from the investigator - claiming he did not understand the questions in English.

Ironically, he speaks English quite clearly.

 

[El Floppo]

I agree. Really wish cough-cough FIFA or any FA would go in and retroactively throw the book at people who do this kind fo thing...

BY ASSOCIATED PRESS [SIZE=1em]June 13 at 2:06 PM[/SIZE]
RIBEIRAO PRETO, Brazil — France’s Loic Remy has no sympathy for fellow striker and former club teammate Fred, and thinks he should be “punished” for the way he won a controversial penalty in Brazil’s 3-1 win against Croatia.

Fred went down in the penalty area under light contact from defender Dejan Lovren in the 71st minute, allowing Neymar to convert a spot kick that gave Brazil a 2-1 lead in Thursday’s World Cup opener.

Croatia’s players were furious with referee Yuichi Nishimura’s decision, with Lovren saying “we can give the World Cup directly to Brazil” as he struggled to contain his anger.

Remy said Friday that he thought Fred had hoodwinked Nishimura.


“He does it well, throws himself at the right time because you can see that there’s no foul at all. Lovren doesn’t pull him back,” said Remy, who played two seasons with Fred for Lyon from 2006-08. “Experience comes into it, and it’s important to fall at the right time. For me, the striker should be punished for this kind of wrongdoing.”

 

[B Maverick]

Taylor And Ruud. That's like having Al Bundy sitting beside Walter Payton.

well said cant click enough "likes"

I never liked Ruud that much- and seems more like Twellman than unlike. Johnny-on-the-spot type players (yeah, Nistelroy with more skills) who run around a bit and score some goals, but don't overwhelm with exciting ball skills.

Always been a fan of RUUUUDDDDD!

Excellent goal scorer, not a messi or ronaldo type but if you needed a goal he was one you felt would get it. Very few with that quality

You mean... like Twellman?

there are no americans outside mcbride that i felt could score an important goal like ruud. (not a LD fan, but he did come up big at times)

Never really paid much attention to Twellman. and Now I wish I could get him off my screen. So bad

Twellman never really played in big games or for a big club, so tough to say what he might have done (tbh, he wasn't really good enough to). But that guy scored a lot of goals of the unflashy variety- that's where my comparison lies.

Ahh. makes sense. Ruud did have some flash, but mostly he was a pure scorer at the highest levels.

 

[El Floppo]

Taylor And Ruud. That's like having Al Bundy sitting beside Walter Payton.

well said cant click enough "likes"

I never liked Ruud that much- and seems more like Twellman than unlike. Johnny-on-the-spot type players (yeah, Nistelroy with more skills) who run around a bit and score some goals, but don't overwhelm with exciting ball skills.

Always been a fan of RUUUUDDDDD!Excellent goal scorer, not a messi or ronaldo type but if you needed a goal he was one you felt would get it. Very few with that quality

You mean... like Twellman?

The joke is that Twellman did it in MLS (like Bundy did it in high school), while Ruud did against the best players in the world.

Ah... I know nothing of Bundy's HS history.

 

[B Maverick]

Taylor And Ruud. That's like having Al Bundy sitting beside Walter Payton.

well said cant click enough "likes"

I never liked Ruud that much- and seems more like Twellman than unlike. Johnny-on-the-spot type players (yeah, Nistelroy with more skills) who run around a bit and score some goals, but don't overwhelm with exciting ball skills.

Always been a fan of RUUUUDDDDD!Excellent goal scorer, not a messi or ronaldo type but if you needed a goal he was one you felt would get it. Very few with that quality

You mean... like Twellman?

The joke is that Twellman did it in MLS (like Bundy did it in high school), while Ruud did against the best players in the world.

Ah... I know nothing of Bundy's HS history.

4 TDs in a high school game

 

[TheIronSheik]

I agree. Really wish cough-cough FIFA or any FA would go in and retroactively throw the book at people who do this kind fo thing...

BY ASSOCIATED PRESS [SIZE=1em]June 13 at 2:06 PM[/SIZE]
RIBEIRAO PRETO, Brazil — France’s Loic Remy has no sympathy for fellow striker and former club teammate Fred, and thinks he should be “punished” for the way he won a controversial penalty in Brazil’s 3-1 win against Croatia.

Fred went down in the penalty area under light contact from defender Dejan Lovren in the 71st minute, allowing Neymar to convert a spot kick that gave Brazil a 2-1 lead in Thursday’s World Cup opener.

Croatia’s players were furious with referee Yuichi Nishimura’s decision, with Lovren saying “we can give the World Cup directly to Brazil” as he struggled to contain his anger.

Remy said Friday that he thought Fred had hoodwinked Nishimura.


“He does it well, throws himself at the right time because you can see that there’s no foul at all. Lovren doesn’t pull him back,” said Remy, who played two seasons with Fred for Lyon from 2006-08. “Experience comes into it, and it’s important to fall at the right time. For me, the striker should be punished for this kind of wrongdoing.”

I agree. Use the NHL flopping rule as an example.

BTW, funny post coming from someone named El Floppo.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Just realized the Manhattan works as a Dutch-themed drink. Glass chilling.

 

[Norman Paperman]

Taylor And Ruud. That's like having Al Bundy sitting beside Walter Payton.

well said cant click enough "likes"

I never liked Ruud that much- and seems more like Twellman than unlike. Johnny-on-the-spot type players (yeah, Nistelroy with more skills) who run around a bit and score some goals, but don't overwhelm with exciting ball skills.

Always been a fan of RUUUUDDDDD!Excellent goal scorer, not a messi or ronaldo type but if you needed a goal he was one you felt would get it. Very few with that quality

You mean... like Twellman?

The joke is that Twellman did it in MLS (like Bundy did it in high school), while Ruud did against the best players in the world.

Ah... I know nothing of Bundy's HS history.

Pretty sure that makes you an illegal alien ...

 

[El Floppo]

Taylor And Ruud. That's like having Al Bundy sitting beside Walter Payton.

well said cant click enough "likes"

I never liked Ruud that much- and seems more like Twellman than unlike. Johnny-on-the-spot type players (yeah, Nistelroy with more skills) who run around a bit and score some goals, but don't overwhelm with exciting ball skills.

Always been a fan of RUUUUDDDDD!Excellent goal scorer, not a messi or ronaldo type but if you needed a goal he was one you felt would get it. Very few with that quality

You mean... like Twellman?

The joke is that Twellman did it in MLS (like Bundy did it in high school), while Ruud did against the best players in the world.

Ah... I know nothing of Bundy's HS history.

Pretty sure that makes you an illegal alien ...

Too distracted by Christina's Applegates.

 

[B Maverick]

Taylor And Ruud. That's like having Al Bundy sitting beside Walter Payton.

well said cant click enough "likes"

I never liked Ruud that much- and seems more like Twellman than unlike. Johnny-on-the-spot type players (yeah, Nistelroy with more skills) who run around a bit and score some goals, but don't overwhelm with exciting ball skills.

Always been a fan of RUUUUDDDDD!Excellent goal scorer, not a messi or ronaldo type but if you needed a goal he was one you felt would get it. Very few with that quality

You mean... like Twellman?

The joke is that Twellman did it in MLS (like Bundy did it in high school), while Ruud did against the best players in the world.

Ah... I know nothing of Bundy's HS history.

Pretty sure that makes you an illegal alien ...

Too distracted by Christina's Applegates.

well played sir

 

[Norman Paperman]

I agree. Really wish cough-cough FIFA or any FA would go in and retroactively throw the book at people who do this kind fo thing...

BY ASSOCIATED PRESS [SIZE=1em]June 13 at 2:06 PM[/SIZE]
RIBEIRAO PRETO, Brazil — France’s Loic Remy has no sympathy for fellow striker and former club teammate Fred, and thinks he should be “punished” for the way he won a controversial penalty in Brazil’s 3-1 win against Croatia.

Fred went down in the penalty area under light contact from defender Dejan Lovren in the 71st minute, allowing Neymar to convert a spot kick that gave Brazil a 2-1 lead in Thursday’s World Cup opener.

Croatia’s players were furious with referee Yuichi Nishimura’s decision, with Lovren saying “we can give the World Cup directly to Brazil” as he struggled to contain his anger.

Remy said Friday that he thought Fred had hoodwinked Nishimura.


“He does it well, throws himself at the right time because you can see that there’s no foul at all. Lovren doesn’t pull him back,” said Remy, who played two seasons with Fred for Lyon from 2006-08. “Experience comes into it, and it’s important to fall at the right time. For me, the striker should be punished for this kind of wrongdoing.”

I agree with the premise here - and it would not offend the senses if Fred were to be suspended (he won't be) - but even if such a system was in play, this was not so blatant that it would generate a suspension, imo. There was contact - Lovren's hand was on Fred, when Fred fell - so its harder to retroactively decide that the contact had nothing to do with the fall.

I saw a much more blatant dive by a Mexican player late in todays game - just trying to draw a foul, not a penalty though.

 

[El Floppo]

I am sure this has been posted in here already... but if not, US v Germany in the ISS.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Wouldn't mind seeing Spain prove a point here and run the Netherlands off the pitch 4-0.

 

[Jaysus]

Just realized the Manhattan works as a Dutch-themed drink. Glass chilling.

I like your style.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Wonder what the field in Manaus would look like with 5 hours of rain?

 

[Norman Paperman]

Wonder what the field in Manaus would look like with 5 hours of rain?

my link

 

[NewlyRetired]

Where Mexico played today is where the US plays Ghana right?

 

[QuizGuy66]

Where Mexico played today is where the US plays Ghana right?

-QG

 

[Notorious T.R.E.]

Wonder what the field in Manaus would look like with 5 hours of rain?

What field?

 

[The Gator]

Just realized the Manhattan works as a Dutch-themed drink. Glass chilling.

RIP Glass