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***Official 2014 World Cup Thread*** (2 Viewers)

You know what's incredibly annoying, though:

As a country, we are known for not time wasting, for not faking injuries, for not diving, and for not taking part in the theatrics that most every other country is involved in. Yet, despite this, with no clear time wasting on the field after we took a 2-1 lead, they tacked on an additional minute on an already generous 4 minutes of extra time for Zusi coming off slowly? Especially after some of the #### some of these countries have gotten away with at the end of their matches?

#### that.
I was already guessing 4 minutes because of the actual injuries (like Beasley) that took up time. No issues with it being 5 minutes.

How do you know they added a minute for Zusi coming off slowly?

 
Silver lining: makes for a better Thursday morning. I think we are in pretty good shape. Only thing that stops us is a combination blowout.

 
Portugal has to be a decent favorite against Ghana, yes?

Thank God they are -4 and not Ghana. If Portugal were -1 right now I would feel way worse.
If they are, I will be on Ghana. They've looked much better in this tournament to me.
:goodposting:

Based on how they've played, Ghana should be the team sitting pretty with Germany right now, not the US.

Portugal- even after scoring the goal- looked like they thought their WC was over. They need to score a bunch of goals more than Ghana and hpe that GErmany does the same to the US to move on. Cards are stacked massively against them... even though it's certainly possible.

 
Silver lining: makes for a better Thursday morning. I think we are in pretty good shape. Only thing that stops us is a combination blowout.
I guess it depends on what you consider a blow out. We only have 2 gd advantage on Ghana.

If they win by 2 and we lose by 1, they go through.

 
How do you know they added a minute for Zusi coming off slowly?
Twellman's tweet that was posted in here earlier I believe was the source for that.
The board had the numbers of the player coming off going and on (Zusi/Gonzo) before any number had been added for time allowed. THe first number of time added was 5, I don't believe it was ever changed.

 
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Silver lining: makes for a better Thursday morning. I think we are in pretty good shape. Only thing that stops us is a combination blowout.
Not really
Odds have it that the most likely scenario is we lose to Germany and Portugal beats Ghana. Portugal is -4 on goal differential They have a lot of goals to cover. We also have GD on Ghnana. We are looking better than any other team in this group than Germany, and that is only if we rate Germany on there rankings, not on how they played yesterday (when they were very drawable)

 
When the game is on the line, you can go for the jugular or just hope the odds carry you through. At the end of the game, with the ball in their possession, you have to go for the jugular. The ball is the game and it is so critical to risk all to maintain it

 
When the game is on the line, you can go for the jugular or just hope the odds carry you through. At the end of the game, with the ball in their possession, you have to go for the jugular. The ball is the game and it is so critical to risk all to maintain it
Great point! Where was this when we could have used it!?

 
Silver lining: makes for a better Thursday morning. I think we are in pretty good shape. Only thing that stops us is a combination blowout.
I guess it depends on what you consider a blow out. We only have 2 gd advantage on Ghana. If they win by 2 and we lose by 1, they go through.
They don't need to win by two necessarily. 2:1 will give them the goals scored tiebreaker.
How so?They have scored 3 and US has scored 4.

 
Silver lining: makes for a better Thursday morning. I think we are in pretty good shape. Only thing that stops us is a combination blowout.
I guess it depends on what you consider a blow out. We only have 2 gd advantage on Ghana. If they win by 2 and we lose by 1, they go through.
They don't need to win by two necessarily. 2:1 will give them the goals scored tiebreaker.
That assumes US gets shut out I think. If the US loses 2-1, and Ghana wins 2-1 then the US goes through on the head to head tie breaker.

 
I think Ghana will be hard pressed to win by two, assuming that Portugal shows up. As impressive as they've been (and they've been impressive). Ghana has shipped goals this tournament. Two in each game. Against Germany, they allowed plenty of chances. And they'll be chasing goals. I think Ghana will give up a goal.

 
Silver lining: makes for a better Thursday morning. I think we are in pretty good shape. Only thing that stops us is a combination blowout.
I guess it depends on what you consider a blow out. We only have 2 gd advantage on Ghana. If they win by 2 and we lose by 1, they go through.
They don't need to win by two necessarily. 2:1 will give them the goals scored tiebreaker.
How so?They have scored 3 and US has scored 4.
If we lose 1:0 and they win 2:1 they go through.

 
Silver lining: makes for a better Thursday morning. I think we are in pretty good shape. Only thing that stops us is a combination blowout.
I guess it depends on what you consider a blow out. We only have 2 gd advantage on Ghana. If they win by 2 and we lose by 1, they go through.
They don't need to win by two necessarily. 2:1 will give them the goals scored tiebreaker.
How so?They have scored 3 and US has scored 4.
If we lose 1:0 and they win 2:1 they go through.
I thought your 2:1 comment meant 2 for them and 1 for USSeems the key is US can't be outscored by 2 by Ghana. Well, maybe not as GD is more important.

 
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Silver lining: makes for a better Thursday morning. I think we are in pretty good shape. Only thing that stops us is a combination blowout.
I guess it depends on what you consider a blow out. We only have 2 gd advantage on Ghana. If they win by 2 and we lose by 1, they go through.
They don't need to win by two necessarily. 2:1 will give them the goals scored tiebreaker.
How so?They have scored 3 and US has scored 4.
If we lose 1:0 and they win 2:1 they go through.
I thought your 2:1 comment meant 2 for them and 1 for USSeems the key is US can't be outscored by 2 by Ghana.
I was just pointing out that they don't necessarily have to win by two.

 
You know what's incredibly annoying, though:

As a country, we are known for not time wasting, for not faking injuries, for not diving, and for not taking part in the theatrics that most every other country is involved in. Yet, despite this, with no clear time wasting on the field after we took a 2-1 lead, they tacked on an additional minute on an already generous 4 minutes of extra time for Zusi coming off slowly? Especially after some of the #### some of these countries have gotten away with at the end of their matches?

#### that.
Don't really agree with that.

 
Love the quantity and diversity of banter in here, even if theres a whole lot of crazy. :cool:

What an incredble match. Really proud of our guys. Special shout out to Demarcus Beasely who looked like he was 18 again running down the flanks. Loved how Klinsmann let his fullbacks attack the wings and break down the Portugal Defense. Fab was again terriffic. For the life of me I dont know why Portugal didnt press us, as it played to our strengths.

I hope Klinsmann and Low go out for dinner on Wednesday and settle this off the field In true FIFA fashion.

 
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Love the quantity and diversity of banter in here, even if theres a whole lot of crazy. :cool:

What an incredble match. Really proud of our guys. Special shout out to Demarcus Beasely who looked like he was 18 again running down the flanks. Loved how Klinsmann let his fullbacks attack the wings and break down the Portugal Defense. Fab was again terriffic. For the life of me I dont know why Portugal didnt press us, as it played to our strengths.

I hope Klinsmann and Low go out for dinner on Wednesday and settle this off the field In true FIFA fashion.
It would be pretty hard to keep up a strong press in that weather.

 
Love the quantity and diversity of banter in here, even if theres a whole lot of crazy. :cool:

What an incredble match. Really proud of our guys. Special shout out to Demarcus Beasely who looked like he was 18 again running down the flanks. Loved how Klinsmann let his fullbacks attack the wings and break down the Portugal Defense. Fab was again terriffic. For the life of me I dont know why Portugal didnt press us, as it played to our strengths.

I hope Klinsmann and Low go out for dinner on Wednesday and settle this off the field In true FIFA fashion.
It would be pretty hard to keep up a strong press in that weather.
They aren't a pressing team.

Why add that into the fold of a team that you only have for a few weeks leading up to the WC? They're a counter attacking team and are happy to let other teams have the ball.

 
Love the quantity and diversity of banter in here, even if theres a whole lot of crazy. :cool:

What an incredble match. Really proud of our guys. Special shout out to Demarcus Beasely who looked like he was 18 again running down the flanks. Loved how Klinsmann let his fullbacks attack the wings and break down the Portugal Defense. Fab was again terriffic. For the life of me I dont know why Portugal didnt press us, as it played to our strengths.

I hope Klinsmann and Low go out for dinner on Wednesday and settle this off the field In true FIFA fashion.
It would be pretty hard to keep up a strong press in that weather.
They aren't a pressing team.

Why add that into the fold of a team that you only have for a few weeks leading up to the WC? They're a counter attacking team and are happy to let other teams have the ball.
I wouldn't think they would, especially considering the weather.

 
Love the quantity and diversity of banter in here, even if theres a whole lot of crazy. :cool:

What an incredble match. Really proud of our guys. Special shout out to Demarcus Beasely who looked like he was 18 again running down the flanks. Loved how Klinsmann let his fullbacks attack the wings and break down the Portugal Defense. Fab was again terriffic. For the life of me I dont know why Portugal didnt press us, as it played to our strengths.

I hope Klinsmann and Low go out for dinner on Wednesday and settle this off the field In true FIFA fashion.
It would be pretty hard to keep up a strong press in that weather.
They aren't a pressing team.

Why add that into the fold of a team that you only have for a few weeks leading up to the WC? They're a counter attacking team and are happy to let other teams have the ball.
I wouldn't think they would, especially considering the weather.
they wouldn't press regardless of the weather. It's like saying, "why don't England play tiki taka"? They just don't do it

 
Again, I don't know much about soccer, but it seemed to me that Portugal was playing it back after scoring the first goal and US had a bunch of chances. Is this similar to 'prevent' defense in football? If so, it seems like when a team is playing that way it burns them. Why wouldn't a team play aggressive all game? Is it to keep from getting tired?

When Portugal was down 1 they picked up the pace and seemed to have a lot more chances.

 
Again, I don't know much about soccer, but it seemed to me that Portugal was playing it back after scoring the first goal and US had a bunch of chances. Is this similar to 'prevent' defense in football? If so, it seems like when a team is playing that way it burns them. Why wouldn't a team play aggressive all game? Is it to keep from getting tired?

When Portugal was down 1 they picked up the pace and seemed to have a lot more chances.
Unlike football, defense turns to offense very quickly in soccer. One reason why teams defending a lead tend to concede some possession to a team chasing a goal is because a the counter-attack is an extremely effective offensive strategy. In fact, it's how Portugal prefers to play in the first place, because that's Ronaldo's game.

 
Again, I don't know much about soccer, but it seemed to me that Portugal was playing it back after scoring the first goal and US had a bunch of chances. Is this similar to 'prevent' defense in football? If so, it seems like when a team is playing that way it burns them.
USA will get plenty of chances if they cab keep it close. Portugal will sit more and more back as the game goes on inviting pressure
yes, it's like the prevent defense and it's just as annoying as the prevent defense :lol:

Why wouldn't a team play aggressive all game? Is it to keep from getting tired?
Yes, very much to do with tiring. 90min with only one break is a long time time to keep up energy levels

When Portugal was down 1 they picked up the pace and seemed to have a lot more chances.
They are out of the WC if they lose, so going down one i s likely to be a spark to the team

 
Bradley had a poor first match and he seemed out of gas early into the 2nd half. After his deflected shot in the early 2nd half, his passes were not crisp and he was walking a lot in the defensive third when he could have been challenging. He still had some good plays, but I expected more from him based on past performances. He controls the pace and direction of the team. Maybe the humidity got to him.

 
Again, I don't know much about soccer, but it seemed to me that Portugal was playing it back after scoring the first goal and US had a bunch of chances. Is this similar to 'prevent' defense in football? If so, it seems like when a team is playing that way it burns them. Why wouldn't a team play aggressive all game? Is it to keep from getting tired?

When Portugal was down 1 they picked up the pace and seemed to have a lot more chances.
They didn't close up shop. There's a difference between bunkering (prevent) and being more careful. They were better offensively on the front foot, but they also allowed the second US goal.

Jones' goal was pretty amazing. Their tactics were effective at forcing shots from distance up to 1:1.

In the end, they still had more possession.

 
Has Bradley been getting hammered here for that lazy turnover when he could have kicked the ball out of bounds worst case and no Ronaldo counter attack?

 

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