****Official 2015 Chicago Bears Offseason Thread **** (1 Viewer)

[The Tick]

McCaskey's still can't take a leak without Ted Phillips holding it for them... George will absolutely not say anything about the responsibility residing with him.

 

[3nOut]

Virginia McCaskey is pissed off. Fed up with mediocrity. Per George McCaskey.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Mom is pissed off!

 

[Limp Ditka]

Ernie knew Brian Piccolo.

I'm sold!

 

[3nOut]

Maybe it's just all the moves being made that is getting me gitty, but I'm actually a bit impressed with George McCaskey and the way he is answering questions.

*I reserve the right to change my mind at a later point.

 

[3nOut]

NFL.com also reported Harbaugh has agreed to take the Michigan job, but he has yet to sign a contract. Harbaugh is expected to become the highest-paid coach in college football making more than $8 million per season, according to the NFL.com report. Alabama's Nick Saban is currently the highest-paid coach in college, earning $7.2 million per year.

No ink on paper yet. But another intriguing name thrown out by CSN Chicago is Cowher. I would be ecstatic if the Bears could snag him.

 

[flapgreen]

I hammered Tucker as much as anyone but he pulled that band of misfits together over the last few weeks and had them playing good ball. They never quit on him.

 

[twistd]

This is so unBearslike. They moved quickly and decisively. They seemed to have done the right thing in bringing in Accorsi as a consultant. Separating the football side from the business side. They did clean house, although I don't know why Tucker is still around. He would have been the first to go in my book. But still, this is extremely unusual for the Bears organization. They usually do things in a half-assed fashion. I would have to say I am pleasantly surprised so far.

 

[The Tick]

Maybe it's just all the moves being made that is getting me gitty, but I'm actually a bit impressed with George McCaskey and the way he is answering questions.

*I reserve the right to change my mind at a later point.

I'm half way there... I just really wanted to see ownership take a more direct responsibility for the football direction of the franchise. I like that they brought it a consultant that I think is a good football guy, and if they really could move in the correct direction here. I just wanted to see Ted fully moved to a business sense with them putting football decisions up to them instead of through Ted.

 

[twistd]

I hammered Tucker as much as anyone but he pulled that band of misfits together over the last few weeks and had them playing good ball. They never quit on him.

But, you can't force a new coach to keep Tucker. You have to give the new coach and GM the freedom to bring in their own DC. The Bears lost Aryans last year by insisting on keep Marinelli. and then Marinelli left on his own. Tucker also must have been involved in hiring the staff and this staff has done a piss poor job developing the young players. Tucker will go.

 

[The Tick]

This is so unBearslike. They moved quickly and decisively. They seemed to have done the right thing in bringing in Accorsi as a consultant. Separating the football side from the business side. They did clean house, although I don't know why Tucker is still around. He would have been the first to go in my book. But still, this is extremely unusual for the Bears organization. They usually do things in a half-assed fashion. I would have to say I am pleasantly surprised so far.

Why do you think they have separated football from business? Ted is still partially in control of football decisions, and they were very clear of that, heard a lot of Ted and I's. George would not say GM would be his decision, but kept talking about his great collaboration and communication with Ted the entire time.

Everything else I agree with you on.

 

[twistd]

Maybe it's just all the moves being made that is getting me gitty, but I'm actually a bit impressed with George McCaskey and the way he is answering questions.

*I reserve the right to change my mind at a later point.

I'm half way there... I just really wanted to see ownership take a more direct responsibility for the football direction of the franchise. I like that they brought it a consultant that I think is a good football guy, and if they really could move in the correct direction here. I just wanted to see Ted fully moved to a business sense with them putting football decisions up to them instead of through Ted.

I would have preferred Ted gone. But short of that, separating out the business from the football decisions is certainly a move in the right direction.

 

[twistd]

This is so unBearslike. They moved quickly and decisively. They seemed to have done the right thing in bringing in Accorsi as a consultant. Separating the football side from the business side. They did clean house, although I don't know why Tucker is still around. He would have been the first to go in my book. But still, this is extremely unusual for the Bears organization. They usually do things in a half-assed fashion. I would have to say I am pleasantly surprised so far.

Why do you think they have separated football from business? Ted is still partially in control of football decisions, and they were very clear of that, heard a lot of Ted and I's. George would not say GM would be his decision, but kept talking about his great collaboration and communication with Ted the entire time.

Everything else I agree with you on.

This is all much, much more than I expected from them. They have a long history of being cheap and short-sighted. I was afraid that they would do the same thing here. If they indeed allow Accorsi to make the football decisions, without interference, this could definitely move the team in a positive direction.

 

[flapgreen]

I hammered Tucker as much as anyone but he pulled that band of misfits together over the last few weeks and had them playing good ball. They never quit on him.

But, you can't force a new coach to keep Tucker. You have to give the new coach and GM the freedom to bring in their own DC. The Bears lost Aryans last year by insisting on keep Marinelli. and then Marinelli left on his own. Tucker also must have been involved in hiring the staff and this staff has done a piss poor job developing the young players. Tucker will go.

Yes, Tucker will definitely go. I think they're just giving the new guy the option.

 

[flapgreen]

This is so unBearslike. They moved quickly and decisively. They seemed to have done the right thing in bringing in Accorsi as a consultant. Separating the football side from the business side. They did clean house, although I don't know why Tucker is still around. He would have been the first to go in my book. But still, this is extremely unusual for the Bears organization. They usually do things in a half-assed fashion. I would have to say I am pleasantly surprised so far.

Why do you think they have separated football from business? Ted is still partially in control of football decisions, and they were very clear of that, heard a lot of Ted and I's. George would not say GM would be his decision, but kept talking about his great collaboration and communication with Ted the entire time.Everything else I agree with you on.

This is all much, much more than I expected from them. They have a long history of being cheap and short-sighted. I was afraid that they would do the same thing here. If they indeed allow Accorsi to make the football decisions, without interference, this could definitely move the team in a positive direction.

Agreed

 

[The Tick]

This is so unBearslike. They moved quickly and decisively. They seemed to have done the right thing in bringing in Accorsi as a consultant. Separating the football side from the business side. They did clean house, although I don't know why Tucker is still around. He would have been the first to go in my book. But still, this is extremely unusual for the Bears organization. They usually do things in a half-assed fashion. I would have to say I am pleasantly surprised so far.

Why do you think they have separated football from business? Ted is still partially in control of football decisions, and they were very clear of that, heard a lot of Ted and I's. George would not say GM would be his decision, but kept talking about his great collaboration and communication with Ted the entire time.

Everything else I agree with you on.

This is all much, much more than I expected from them. They have a long history of being cheap and short-sighted. I was afraid that they would do the same thing here. If they indeed allow Accorsi to make the football decisions, without interference, this could definitely move the team in a positive direction.

Yes, but they clearly said that Accorsi would NOT make the decision, that the final decision would belong to Ted and George. Yes, I agree brining him in is a good step, I just don't like that Ted clearly said the final decision would belong to him and George together.

But as you said, this is more than I expected, and I do have some hope that Accorsi could find some good candidates, and if they follow his recommendations, maybe we start moving in a correct direction.

 

[3nOut]

This is so unBearslike. They moved quickly and decisively. They seemed to have done the right thing in bringing in Accorsi as a consultant. Separating the football side from the business side. They did clean house, although I don't know why Tucker is still around. He would have been the first to go in my book. But still, this is extremely unusual for the Bears organization. They usually do things in a half-assed fashion. I would have to say I am pleasantly surprised so far.

Why do you think they have separated football from business? Ted is still partially in control of football decisions, and they were very clear of that, heard a lot of Ted and I's. George would not say GM would be his decision, but kept talking about his great collaboration and communication with Ted the entire time.Everything else I agree with you on.

This is all much, much more than I expected from them. They have a long history of being cheap and short-sighted. I was afraid that they would do the same thing here. If they indeed allow Accorsi to make the football decisions, without interference, this could definitely move the team in a positive direction.

Accorsi will not be making any decisions. He will make recommendations. McCaskey and Philips will be making the decision on the GM. Once the GM and HC are hired, they will make all the personnel decisions.

 

[3nOut]

This is so unBearslike. They moved quickly and decisively. They seemed to have done the right thing in bringing in Accorsi as a consultant. Separating the football side from the business side. They did clean house, although I don't know why Tucker is still around. He would have been the first to go in my book. But still, this is extremely unusual for the Bears organization. They usually do things in a half-assed fashion. I would have to say I am pleasantly surprised so far.

Why do you think they have separated football from business? Ted is still partially in control of football decisions, and they were very clear of that, heard a lot of Ted and I's. George would not say GM would be his decision, but kept talking about his great collaboration and communication with Ted the entire time.Everything else I agree with you on.

This is all much, much more than I expected from them. They have a long history of being cheap and short-sighted. I was afraid that they would do the same thing here. If they indeed allow Accorsi to make the football decisions, without interference, this could definitely move the team in a positive direction.

Yes, but they clearly said that Accorsi would NOT make the decision, that the final decision would belong to Ted and George. Yes, I agree brining him in is a good step, I just don't like that Ted clearly said the final decision would belong to him and George together.But as you said, this is more than I expected, and I do have some hope that Accorsi could find some good candidates, and if they follow his recommendations, maybe we start moving in a correct direction.

You beat me to the punch Tick. But I think hey will follow Accorsi's recommendations. If they don't, then what the point of hiring him in the first place. And they can blame him if he recommends the wrong person while keeping clean themselves.

 

[Power Monster]

bernsy is going crazy on the score yelling at your fans it is crazy that guy he just yells at bears fans every show that is probably why i like him so much take that to the bank chicago brearhans

He was the guy that called the fans meatballs when they called for Cutler's head 3 years ago

 

[flapgreen]

That's his schtick

 

[Power Monster]

This is so unBearslike. They moved quickly and decisively. They seemed to have done the right thing in bringing in Accorsi as a consultant. Separating the football side from the business side. They did clean house, although I don't know why Tucker is still around. He would have been the first to go in my book. But still, this is extremely unusual for the Bears organization. They usually do things in a half-assed fashion. I would have to say I am pleasantly surprised so far.

Why do you think they have separated football from business? Ted is still partially in control of football decisions, and they were very clear of that, heard a lot of Ted and I's. George would not say GM would be his decision, but kept talking about his great collaboration and communication with Ted the entire time.Everything else I agree with you on.

This is the scary part. The ownership still cannot root out Phillips. I understand the move to the business side but I am a firm believer in Phillips being poison in the ear of Prince George. Wasn't Phillips involved in the hire of Emery? Additionally, why would George need anyone around to help the business side when HE should be running the business side as the darn owner? Like Limp has stated - still early in the game but tucker being in the fold is just ridiculous as he should have been fired last year.

Cowher? Seems very intriguing.

 

[RBM]

Seriously obnoxious they made a point to fire Kromer but not Tucker. His reward for being a good soldier?

 

[flapgreen]

Mike Smith. Players love him. Good coach who had nothing to work with in Atlanta the last couple seasons.

 

[RBM]

Mike Smith. Players love him. Good coach who had nothing to work with in Atlanta the last couple seasons.

To coach the Bears? I've always seen him as a guy in way over his head, just riding the wave of some talent on offense.

I think Hue Jackson should get a serious look. He had an awful Raider team on the brink of the playoffs a couple of years ago. Extremely respected around the league. And I think he's coached both sides of the ball if I'm not mistaken.

 

[twistd]

I want a really good GM in place, then worry about the coach. I don't want to see Shanahan. I think it is time the Bears stopped catering their hires to Cutler. Hire the best coach. Hire a good QB coach. Tell Cutler that this is the offense we are running. You turn the ball over you sit. You don't run the offense the way it is supposed to be run, you sit. Treat him like any other player. If they don't get rid of him. I would like to see the Bears go after Ryan Mallet or Mike Glennon. Bring some real competition in for Cutler at least. Treat Cutler the way Belichick would treat Cutler.

 

[flapgreen]

Mike Smith. Players love him. Good coach who had nothing to work with in Atlanta the last couple seasons.

To coach the Bears? I've always seen him as a guy in way over his head, just riding the wave of some talent on offense. I think Hue Jackson should get a serious look. He had an awful Raider team on the brink of the playoffs a couple of years ago. Extremely respected around the league. And I think he's coached both sides of the ball if I'm not mistaken.

Interesting. I've always seen him as a good coach with very little to work with recently. Found it odd that he got booted but GM kept his job. Team is depleted of talent outside of a few guys.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Mike Smith. Players love him. Good coach who had nothing to work with in Atlanta the last couple seasons.

To coach the Bears? I've always seen him as a guy in way over his head, just riding the wave of some talent on offense. I think Hue Jackson should get a serious look. He had an awful Raider team on the brink of the playoffs a couple of years ago. Extremely respected around the league. And I think he's coached both sides of the ball if I'm not mistaken.

Interesting. I've always seen him as a good coach with very little to work with recently. Found it odd that he got booted but GM kept his job. Team is depleted of talent outside of a few guys .

Sounds familiar

 

[flapgreen]

But I like hue

 

[RBM]

I want a really good GM in place, then worry about the coach. I don't want to see Shanahan. I think it is time the Bears stopped catering their hires to Cutler. Hire the best coach. Hire a good QB coach. Tell Cutler that this is the offense we are running. You turn the ball over you sit. You don't run the offense the way it is supposed to be run, you sit. Treat him like any other player. If they don't get rid of him. I would like to see the Bears go after Ryan Mallet or Mike Glennon. Bring some real competition in for Cutler at least. Treat Cutler the way Belichick would treat Cutler.

Agree 100%

 

[RBM]

But I like hue

Huge Action

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

Seriously obnoxious they made a point to fire Kromer but not Tucker. His reward for being a good soldier?

tucker's your new hc

 

[KCitons]

Seriously obnoxious they made a point to fire Kromer but not Tucker. His reward for being a good soldier?

tucker's your new hc

Kill me now.

 

[RBM]

Seriously obnoxious they made a point to fire Kromer but not Tucker. His reward for being a good soldier?

tucker's your new hc

 

[jagbag]

Did they actually say, that they would hire a head coach BEFORE the GM if they thought they had one they liked ?

Did I hear that right ? If so, that would be so fu**ed up.

 

[flapgreen]

Yep

 

[ditka311]

bernsy is going crazy on the score yelling at your fans it is crazy that guy he just yells at bears fans every show that is probably why i like him so much take that to the bank chicago brearhans

#### Bernstein. Seriously. Complete ######.

 

[Officer Pete Malloy]

http://i.imgur.com/TnBjDAV.png

 

[Kool-Aid Larry]

http://i.imgur.com/TnBjDAV.png

you forgot the part where he gets cutler+n to help him pack up and cutler throws his stuff in the garbage instead of the box by mistake.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Wouldn't it be great if they brought in Singletary for the coaching gig?

 

[twistd]

http://i.imgur.com/TnBjDAV.png

you forgot the part where he gets cutler+n to help him pack up and cutler throws his stuff in the garbage instead of the box by mistake.

No, Cutler gives his stuff to the guy in the office next door.

 

[fantasycurse42]

http://i.imgur.com/TnBjDAV.png

 

[twistd]

Wouldn't it be great if they brought in Singletary for the coaching gig?

No it wouldn't. Singletary was a train wreck in SF. Why would you imagine he would be any better in Chicago?

 

[ditka311]

I want a really good GM in place, then worry about the coach. I don't want to see Shanahan. I think it is time the Bears stopped catering their hires to Cutler. Hire the best coach. Hire a good QB coach. Tell Cutler that this is the offense we are running. You turn the ball over you sit. You don't run the offense the way it is supposed to be run, you sit. Treat him like any other player. If they don't get rid of him. I would like to see the Bears go after Ryan Mallet or Mike Glennon. Bring some real competition in for Cutler at least. Treat Cutler the way Belichick would treat Cutler.

Agree 100%

Can't argue with much here though I don't pine for either Mallett or Glennon. Can't hurt I guess.

 

[fantasycurse42]

Wouldn't it be great if they brought in Singletary for the coaching gig?

No it wouldn't. Singletary was a train wreck in SF. Why would you imagine he would be any better in Chicago?

It was sarcasm... I'm a Niner fan, luckily there is a zero percent chance he is even mentioned in our vacancy. While it is unlikely, I bet his name comes up briefly during their search, which has to be pretty ####### awful for a Bears fan to even think about.

 

[flapgreen]

Lake Dawson from Titans reported to be On bears list of GM candidates. Terrible freaking franchise.

 

[flapgreen]

Decosta and Holmgren would be my two picks but neither of those guys would come here. Too much instability

 

[The Tick]

Decosta and Holmgren would be my two picks but neither of those guys would come here. Too much instability

I don't agree with the "instability" here. We have given angelo and previous coaches plenty of time, and we pretty much give our GM total power. I don't like Phillips, but once the GM is given initial restrictions and hired, it seems like he's pretty hands off until it blows up. I actually think the opposite, I believe ownership has proven that unless it's a total trainwreck they will overly give leeway, this is the first time they have pulled the plug this quickly and they did it with good reason.

I really do think this is a GREAT landing spot for a GM, yeah he has work to do, but he will be given a lot of power for a GM to do that work. They really want their GM to be give the direction of the franchise and you won't get that a lot of other places. If they offer the proper money, I don't see any reason a GM won't come over.

They do empower their lower guys, all it takes is getting the correct one to move in a good direction.

 

[3nOut]

Decosta and Holmgren would be my two picks but neither of those guys would come here. Too much instability

I don't agree with the "instability" here. We have given angelo and previous coaches plenty of time, and we pretty much give our GM total power. I don't like Phillips, but once the GM is given initial restrictions and hired, it seems like he's pretty hands off until it blows up. I actually think the opposite, I believe ownership has proven that unless it's a total trainwreck they will overly give leeway, this is the first time they have pulled the plug this quickly and they did it with good reason.I really do think this is a GREAT landing spot for a GM, yeah he has work to do, but he will be given a lot of power for a GM to do that work. They really want their GM to be give the direction of the franchise and you won't get that a lot of other places. If they offer the proper money, I don't see any reason a GM won't come over.

They do empower their lower guys, all it takes is getting the correct one to move in a good direction.

Agreed. GMs love the idea of building or rebuilding from scratch. There's not much fun, nor credit, if the team is already close. A HC coach may opt for a destination like SF, but Chicago is a great place for a new GM.

 

[Limp Ditka]

Decosta and Holmgren would be my two picks but neither of those guys would come here. Too much instability

I don't agree with the "instability" here. We have given angelo and previous coaches plenty of time, and we pretty much give our GM total power. I don't like Phillips, but once the GM is given initial restrictions and hired, it seems like he's pretty hands off until it blows up. I actually think the opposite, I believe ownership has proven that unless it's a total trainwreck they will overly give leeway, this is the first time they have pulled the plug this quickly and they did it with good reason.I really do think this is a GREAT landing spot for a GM, yeah he has work to do, but he will be given a lot of power for a GM to do that work. They really want their GM to be give the direction of the franchise and you won't get that a lot of other places. If they offer the proper money, I don't see any reason a GM won't come over.

They do empower their lower guys, all it takes is getting the correct one to move in a good direction.

Agreed. GMs love the idea of building or rebuilding from scratch. There's not much fun, nor credit, if the team is already close. A HC coach may opt for a destination like SF, but Chicago is a great place for a new GM.

Overwhelming majority of people think this

Then there's flap

 

[twistd]

Decosta and Holmgren would be my two picks but neither of those guys would come here. Too much instability

I don't agree with the "instability" here. We have given angelo and previous coaches plenty of time, and we pretty much give our GM total power. I don't like Phillips, but once the GM is given initial restrictions and hired, it seems like he's pretty hands off until it blows up. I actually think the opposite, I believe ownership has proven that unless it's a total trainwreck they will overly give leeway, this is the first time they have pulled the plug this quickly and they did it with good reason.I really do think this is a GREAT landing spot for a GM, yeah he has work to do, but he will be given a lot of power for a GM to do that work. They really want their GM to be give the direction of the franchise and you won't get that a lot of other places. If they offer the proper money, I don't see any reason a GM won't come over.

They do empower their lower guys, all it takes is getting the correct one to move in a good direction.

Agreed. GMs love the idea of building or rebuilding from scratch. There's not much fun, nor credit, if the team is already close. A HC coach may opt for a destination like SF, but Chicago is a great place for a new GM.

What makes the Bears GM job attractive is that it is a historic franchise. And because the GM is remaining in Atlanta, SF, and Oakland there are really only two jobs open. The biggest drawbacks are Cutler and Ted Phillips. I think that Cutler will put off some of the head coaching candidates. So the GM will have a tougher time hiring a head coach. I don't believe that Ted Phillips will stay in the background. Having Phillips meddling is not an attractive prospect. And I wonder if the Bears front office will be able to allow the GM to do what he wants with Cutler. If he wants to trade him, will they allow that to happen?