****Official 2015 Chicago Bears Offseason Thread **** (1 Viewer)

[twistd]

Bowles expected to take the Atlanta spot, Quinn to the Jets. and Del Rio to the Raiders. Are the Bears really doing the due diligence with the hire, or are other coaches scared away from our front office and the Cutler situation?

Would not be surprised at all if we are viewed as a bad spot because of Cutler. He could be the biggest coach killer in the league.

I don't know if it is just Cutler. I think the roster is sort of thin. In addition you have to believe that Pace is actually going to have the autonomy to make the football decisions. Will you be able to hire your own coaches and coordinators? That has not always been the case in the past. And I wonder if they are willing to pay a solid salary? The Bears have been fairly cheap in the past when it comes to coaches salaries, and they are paying for Emery and Trestman already. All and all there are a number of things that detract from this situation being ideal.

Nah...its Cutler. Nobody wants to start their coaching tenure stuck with some malcontent loser that's not even very good at the most important position.

I think it is more than Cutler. And if they get rid of Cutler they are going to be starting a rookie, or a veteran like Hoyer or Jake Locker. That is not an attractive prospect either way. There is very little talent on the defensive side of the ball. I don't think this organization has a very good reputation around the league. This is a tough division. The Packers will be tough as long as Rodgers is their QB. The Lions are becoming a solid playoff contender, and it looks like the Vikings are improving. The Bears would appear to be the weakest team in the division at this point. I just think some of the other jobs are more attractive.

 

[twistd]

There are a number of teams. like the Patriots, that produce assistants that other teams are after as possible head coaches. In the last twenty years have there been any Bear assistants that have interviewed for head coaching positions with other teams? Is there someone that I don't remember? There was Buddy Ryan, but that was longer than twenty years ago.

 

[KCitons]

There are a number of teams. like the Patriots, that produce assistants that other teams are after as possible head coaches. In the last twenty years have there been any Bear assistants that have interviewed for head coaching positions with other teams? Is there someone that I don't remember? There was Buddy Ryan, but that was longer than twenty years ago.

He had to go to San Diego first, but the only one I can think of is Ron Rivera.

 

[3nOut]

There are a number of teams. like the Patriots, that produce assistants that other teams are after as possible head coaches. In the last twenty years have there been any Bear assistants that have interviewed for head coaching positions with other teams? Is there someone that I don't remember? There was Buddy Ryan, but that was longer than twenty years ago.

And now many of those assistants have been successful without Belichek and Brady?

 

[flapgreen]

One guy saying Dallas if Marinelli leaves

 

[flapgreen]

Hub doesn't like Fox in Chicago. I'm now convinced Fox is the guy for the job.

I'm fairly certain that Hub doesn't like Kim Jong Un in Chicago either

??? No sure I'd like him there either.

I'm with you I'd prefer to start with some new blood. I think I would prefer Quinn or Toub.

This team needs an established winning coach to pull them together. 3 straight division titles. Super Bowl with 2 different teams. It doesn't get any more credible than Fox. Immediate respect from the team. He's as close as we can get to Arians for 2 years ago. It's an easy hire.

 

[RBM]

Only things I'd worry about with Fox are age and health.

 

[flapgreen]

Source: Lions defensive coordinator Teryl Austin is scheduled to interview with the #Bears on Tuesday for (cont) http://t.co/nF8HplnqnT

Disturbing. Makes zero sense.

Why not? He's worth a look. Been in a lot of successful defenses. Players love him

1 year as a coordinator of an ok D. Good but nothing special. And Im sick of guys with no HC experience. We are 0-4 on them since our last championship coach.

Now one's available.

 

[flapgreen]

Per @mortreport, John Fox will interview with the Bears, but isn't a lock for the job.

 

[twistd]

There are a number of teams. like the Patriots, that produce assistants that other teams are after as possible head coaches. In the last twenty years have there been any Bear assistants that have interviewed for head coaching positions with other teams? Is there someone that I don't remember? There was Buddy Ryan, but that was longer than twenty years ago.

And now many of those assistants have been successful without Belichek and Brady?

The only Patriots assistant who is succeeding, so far, is O'Brien in Houston. That is why I wasn't interested in Josh McDaniels. The failure rate of Belichick assistants is pretty alarming. And I agree that the presence of Brady cannot be ignored. That is why I am not as interested in Adam Gase. I wonder how much of the Broncos offensive success is attributable to Peyton rather than Gase.

My point was that some teams produce assistants that other teams covet as head coaches. The Bears are not one of those teams. And I suppose a big part of it is they just haven't won that much in the last twenty years. But not only don't they produce assistants that other teams want, they have a hard time hiring assistants at times. Remember how tough Lovie found it to find an offensive coordinator?

 

[DaveL]

There are a number of teams. like the Patriots, that produce assistants that other teams are after as possible head coaches. In the last twenty years have there been any Bear assistants that have interviewed for head coaching positions with other teams? Is there someone that I don't remember? There was Buddy Ryan, but that was longer than twenty years ago.

And now many of those assistants have been successful without Belichek and Brady?

The only Patriots assistant who is succeeding, so far, is O'Brien in Houston. That is why I wasn't interested in Josh McDaniels. The failure rate of Belichick assistants is pretty alarming. And I agree that the presence of Brady cannot be ignored. That is why I am not as interested in Adam Gase. I wonder how much of the Broncos offensive success is attributable to Peyton rather than Gase.

My point was that some teams produce assistants that other teams covet as head coaches. The Bears are not one of those teams. And I suppose a big part of it is they just haven't won that much in the last twenty years. But not only don't they produce assistants that other teams want, they have a hard time hiring assistants at times. Remember how tough Lovie found it to find an offensive coordinator?

I agree about our coordinators doing nothing. Rivera wasn't ours when he got the HC. As for Lovie, he just didn't know how to choose an OC (see Jeff Tedford in 2014 Bucs).

 

[twistd]

A couple of good columns in the Chicago Tribune about why Fox would be a good hire. Fox could work around Cutler. He won a Super Bowl with Jake Delhomme as his QB. And he won a playoff game with the Broncos with Tim Tebow as his QB in Denver. Fox wouldn't be a hire about Cutler, like Shanahan would be, but he probably wouldn't be put off by Cutler either. Having a good veteran coach with Pace the young GM might be a very good fit. Fox is a strong defensive mind, and the Bears desperately need that. Fox would probably help them attract good candidates for the coordinator spots, and the other assistants. Fox had Gase and Del Rio in Denver and both are in the mix for head coaching gigs. If either doesn't get a head coaching gig and wants a job with Fox I think that would be great.

Overall, I wasn't excited about Fox at first. But these are some very valid points. I really like that he won a playoff game with Tebow and won a Super Bowl with Delhomme. Then, whatever the Bears QB situation, he can deal with it. I like that he gives the organization credibility when hiring coordinators and assistants. I think his experience could help Pace. And I really like that he is a creative defensive mind. The one stumbling block might be whether the Bears are willing to pay him what he wants in salary. He was making $5 million in Denver. I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted $6 million or $7 million. Chip Kelly and Jeff Fisher are getting $7 million a year. Andy Reid is getting $6 million a year in KC. That is a tough pill to swallow when the Bears are already paying Trestman $4.25 for the next two years.

 

[DaveL]

A couple of good columns in the Chicago Tribune about why Fox would be a good hire. Fox could work around Cutler. He won a Super Bowl with Jake Delhomme as his QB. And he won a playoff game with the Broncos with Tim Tebow as his QB in Denver. Fox wouldn't be a hire about Cutler, like Shanahan would be, but he probably wouldn't be put off by Cutler either. Having a good veteran coach with Pace the young GM might be a very good fit. Fox is a strong defensive mind, and the Bears desperately need that. Fox would probably help them attract good candidates for the coordinator spots, and the other assistants. Fox had Gase and Del Rio in Denver and both are in the mix for head coaching gigs. If either doesn't get a head coaching gig and wants a job with Fox I think that would be great.

Overall, I wasn't excited about Fox at first. But these are some very valid points. I really like that he won a playoff game with Tebow and won a Super Bowl with Delhomme. Then, whatever the Bears QB situation, he can deal with it. I like that he gives the organization credibility when hiring coordinators and assistants. I think his experience could help Pace. And I really like that he is a creative defensive mind. The one stumbling block might be whether the Bears are willing to pay him what he wants in salary. He was making $5 million in Denver. I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted $6 million or $7 million. Chip Kelly and Jeff Fisher are getting $7 million a year. Andy Reid is getting $6 million a year in KC. That is a tough pill to swallow when the Bears are already paying Trestman $4.25 for the next two years.

Bears saving money with a less experienced GM, might open up some room in the budget for a more veteran HC

 

[twistd]

There are a number of teams. like the Patriots, that produce assistants that other teams are after as possible head coaches. In the last twenty years have there been any Bear assistants that have interviewed for head coaching positions with other teams? Is there someone that I don't remember? There was Buddy Ryan, but that was longer than twenty years ago.

And now many of those assistants have been successful without Belichek and Brady?

The only Patriots assistant who is succeeding, so far, is O'Brien in Houston. That is why I wasn't interested in Josh McDaniels. The failure rate of Belichick assistants is pretty alarming. And I agree that the presence of Brady cannot be ignored. That is why I am not as interested in Adam Gase. I wonder how much of the Broncos offensive success is attributable to Peyton rather than Gase.

My point was that some teams produce assistants that other teams covet as head coaches. The Bears are not one of those teams. And I suppose a big part of it is they just haven't won that much in the last twenty years. But not only don't they produce assistants that other teams want, they have a hard time hiring assistants at times. Remember how tough Lovie found it to find an offensive coordinator?

I agree about our coordinators doing nothing. Rivera wasn't ours when he got the HC. As for Lovie, he just didn't know how to choose an OC (see Jeff Tedford in 2014 Bucs).

Lovie really made some bad choices for offensive coordinators in Chicago. He really struggled finding people willing to take the job at times. Remember he hired Martz after both Jeremy Bates and Hue Jackson refused to interview for the position. I think a lot of experienced NFL coaches would be eager to work with Fox. That would be good to have your choice of assistants, rather than having to take whoever is left.

 

[twistd]

A couple of good columns in the Chicago Tribune about why Fox would be a good hire. Fox could work around Cutler. He won a Super Bowl with Jake Delhomme as his QB. And he won a playoff game with the Broncos with Tim Tebow as his QB in Denver. Fox wouldn't be a hire about Cutler, like Shanahan would be, but he probably wouldn't be put off by Cutler either. Having a good veteran coach with Pace the young GM might be a very good fit. Fox is a strong defensive mind, and the Bears desperately need that. Fox would probably help them attract good candidates for the coordinator spots, and the other assistants. Fox had Gase and Del Rio in Denver and both are in the mix for head coaching gigs. If either doesn't get a head coaching gig and wants a job with Fox I think that would be great.

Overall, I wasn't excited about Fox at first. But these are some very valid points. I really like that he won a playoff game with Tebow and won a Super Bowl with Delhomme. Then, whatever the Bears QB situation, he can deal with it. I like that he gives the organization credibility when hiring coordinators and assistants. I think his experience could help Pace. And I really like that he is a creative defensive mind. The one stumbling block might be whether the Bears are willing to pay him what he wants in salary. He was making $5 million in Denver. I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted $6 million or $7 million. Chip Kelly and Jeff Fisher are getting $7 million a year. Andy Reid is getting $6 million a year in KC. That is a tough pill to swallow when the Bears are already paying Trestman $4.25 for the next two years.

Bears saving money with a less experienced GM, might open up some room in the budget for a more veteran HC

I have not seen any contract numbers for Pace. I'm curious what they paid him.

 

[DaveL]

There are a number of teams. like the Patriots, that produce assistants that other teams are after as possible head coaches. In the last twenty years have there been any Bear assistants that have interviewed for head coaching positions with other teams? Is there someone that I don't remember? There was Buddy Ryan, but that was longer than twenty years ago.

And now many of those assistants have been successful without Belichek and Brady?

The only Patriots assistant who is succeeding, so far, is O'Brien in Houston. That is why I wasn't interested in Josh McDaniels. The failure rate of Belichick assistants is pretty alarming. And I agree that the presence of Brady cannot be ignored. That is why I am not as interested in Adam Gase. I wonder how much of the Broncos offensive success is attributable to Peyton rather than Gase.

My point was that some teams produce assistants that other teams covet as head coaches. The Bears are not one of those teams. And I suppose a big part of it is they just haven't won that much in the last twenty years. But not only don't they produce assistants that other teams want, they have a hard time hiring assistants at times. Remember how tough Lovie found it to find an offensive coordinator?

I agree about our coordinators doing nothing. Rivera wasn't ours when he got the HC. As for Lovie, he just didn't know how to choose an OC (see Jeff Tedford in 2014 Bucs).

Lovie really made some bad choices for offensive coordinators in Chicago. He really struggled finding people willing to take the job at times. Remember he hired Martz after both Jeremy Bates and Hue Jackson refused to interview for the position. I think a lot of experienced NFL coaches would be eager to work with Fox. That would be good to have your choice of assistants, rather than having to take whoever is left.

I wouldn't have disagreed with you until his first chance at a HC outside of Chicago he makes another bad choice. Chicken or the egg I guess. Either way, I'm sure Fox would have his choice of suitors to fill the position. His previous OC got a HC job at San Diego, and now his current (as of a week ago) OC is also a HC candidate. Doesn't offer much for stability, but he seems to pick good ones...

 

[RBM]

A couple of good columns in the Chicago Tribune about why Fox would be a good hire. Fox could work around Cutler. He won a Super Bowl with Jake Delhomme as his QB. And he won a playoff game with the Broncos with Tim Tebow as his QB in Denver. Fox wouldn't be a hire about Cutler, like Shanahan would be, but he probably wouldn't be put off by Cutler either. Having a good veteran coach with Pace the young GM might be a very good fit. Fox is a strong defensive mind, and the Bears desperately need that. Fox would probably help them attract good candidates for the coordinator spots, and the other assistants. Fox had Gase and Del Rio in Denver and both are in the mix for head coaching gigs. If either doesn't get a head coaching gig and wants a job with Fox I think that would be great.

Overall, I wasn't excited about Fox at first. But these are some very valid points. I really like that he won a playoff game with Tebow and won a Super Bowl with Delhomme. Then, whatever the Bears QB situation, he can deal with it. I like that he gives the organization credibility when hiring coordinators and assistants. I think his experience could help Pace. And I really like that he is a creative defensive mind. The one stumbling block might be whether the Bears are willing to pay him what he wants in salary. He was making $5 million in Denver. I wouldn't be surprised if he wanted $6 million or $7 million. Chip Kelly and Jeff Fisher are getting $7 million a year. Andy Reid is getting $6 million a year in KC. That is a tough pill to swallow when the Bears are already paying Trestman $4.25 for the next two years.

Good post.

And he got to a SB with Delhomme. Almost won but didn't. Still impressive.

 

[RBM]

There are a number of teams. like the Patriots, that produce assistants that other teams are after as possible head coaches. In the last twenty years have there been any Bear assistants that have interviewed for head coaching positions with other teams? Is there someone that I don't remember? There was Buddy Ryan, but that was longer than twenty years ago.

And now many of those assistants have been successful without Belichek and Brady?

The only Patriots assistant who is succeeding, so far, is O'Brien in Houston. That is why I wasn't interested in Josh McDaniels. The failure rate of Belichick assistants is pretty alarming. And I agree that the presence of Brady cannot be ignored. That is why I am not as interested in Adam Gase. I wonder how much of the Broncos offensive success is attributable to Peyton rather than Gase. My point was that some teams produce assistants that other teams covet as head coaches. The Bears are not one of those teams. And I suppose a big part of it is they just haven't won that much in the last twenty years. But not only don't they produce assistants that other teams want, they have a hard time hiring assistants at times. Remember how tough Lovie found it to find an offensive coordinator?

I agree about our coordinators doing nothing. Rivera wasn't ours when he got the HC. As for Lovie, he just didn't know how to choose an OC (see Jeff Tedford in 2014 Bucs).

Lovie really made some bad choices for offensive coordinators in Chicago. He really struggled finding people willing to take the job at times. Remember he hired Martz after both Jeremy Bates and Hue Jackson refused to interview for the position. I think a lot of experienced NFL coaches would be eager to work with Fox. That would be good to have your choice of assistants, rather than having to take whoever is left.

I wouldn't have disagreed with you until his first chance at a HC outside of Chicago he makes another bad choice. Chicken or the egg I guess. Either way, I'm sure Fox would have his choice of suitors to fill the position. His previous OC got a HC job at San Diego, and now his current (as of a week ago) OC is also a HC candidate. Doesn't offer much for stability, but he seems to pick good ones...

In Lovies defense there was no way of knowing Tedford's health was going to fail. I felt bad too because I know he had Tedford in mind the day he lost the Bears job, and then never got a chance to even work with him.

 

[RBM]

What a bunch of losers. Does it even matter who the coach is?

https://sports.vice.com/article/chicago-bears-teammates-beef-on-twitter-over-unfollowing

 

[DaveL]

What a bunch of losers. Does it even matter who the coach is?

https://sports.vice.com/article/chicago-bears-teammates-beef-on-twitter-over-unfollowing

newsflash: Bennett's crazy

 

[twistd]

What a bunch of losers. Does it even matter who the coach is?

https://sports.vice.com/article/chicago-bears-teammates-beef-on-twitter-over-unfollowing

Nothing to see here, move along.

 

[flapgreen]

John Fox leaving Wednesday for Chicago, to interview for the Bears head coach position: http://t.co/ioq4wWBZLe via @mikeklis

 

[flapgreen]

Add Chicago to the possibilities for Kyle Shanahan as an offensive coordinator. John Fox, who interviews there Wed, is very high on him...

 

[RBM]

I'd be surprised if Fox is not our coach by Friday.

 

[twistd]

A buddy of mine listens to the Score on his way to and from work. He said a theory he heard repeatedly was that the reason Ballard wasn't hired is because he wanted to get rid of Cutler. Pace was willing to hang on to Cutler. I don't know if this was all speculation or whether this came from an insider in the Bears organization. If it is true then we will get to enjoy Jay pouting and throwing the ball to the other team again this next season.

 

[flapgreen]

Bowles gone

 

[drizzle]

A buddy of mine listens to the Score on his way to and from work. He said a theory he heard repeatedly was that the reason Ballard wasn't hired is because he wanted to get rid of Cutler. Pace was willing to hang on to Cutler. I don't know if this was all speculation or whether this came from an insider in the Bears organization. If it is true then we will get to enjoy Jay pouting and throwing the ball to the other team again this next season.

There's no way cutler isn't the qb next season regardless of who the gm is

 

[DaveL]

A buddy of mine listens to the Score on his way to and from work. He said a theory he heard repeatedly was that the reason Ballard wasn't hired is because he wanted to get rid of Cutler. Pace was willing to hang on to Cutler. I don't know if this was all speculation or whether this came from an insider in the Bears organization. If it is true then we will get to enjoy Jay pouting and throwing the ball to the other team again this next season.

Are you serious with this? The guys on the Score know no more than you or me, their whole job is to make stuff up to get people to listen to them complain on the radio about how they could do better

 

[BassNBrew]

Broncos fans thought they were getting a good head coach a few years ago.

 

[Grimace59]

Broncos fans thought they were getting a good head coach a few years ago.

Fox being fired was more about John Elways ego, than Fox doing a bad job. I'm psyched to have Fox as our coach, I like what he did in both Carloina and Denver. Remember Fox was winning in Denver before Manning showed up with Tebow at the Helm.

 

[Chicago Hooligan]

Marion Barber sure helped Tebow win...

 

[DaveL]

Marion Barber sure helped Tebow win...

Thanks for ruining my day

 

[-X-]

Hub did make a good point about an older coach like Fox/Skeletor probably would not be cool with taking orders from a "young punk" like Pace.

Hold out for Quinn. As much as I hate to say it, I hope Seattle loses to GB so we can get Quinn in the fold next week. The Senior Bowl is fast approaching.

I can see Fox going to ATL or BUF beforehand. Marrone has ties to Pace, so he's probably the fallback option unless we get impatient and reach, if Seattle plays for a few more weeks.

 

[RBM]

Just heard a Denver beat guy on The Score. Said Fox wanted to be more conservative but Elway wasn't down with that.

He said from what he's learned about Fox, he will want more control this next time out, which means a conservative approach on offense, good D, and play a field position game. And then my stomach turned when he mentioned Fox being close to Greg Knapp in terms of what type of OC he'd bring in.

Crossing my fingers for Marrone, but have a feeling Fox gets this job by tomorrow.

 

[flapgreen]

Broncos fans thought they were getting a good head coach a few years ago.

Fox being fired was more about John Elways ego, than Fox doing a bad job. I'm psyched to have Fox as our coach, I like what he did in both Carloina and Denver. Remember Fox was winning in Denver before Manning showed up with Tebow at the Helm.

yep

 

[flapgreen]

Just heard a Denver beat guy on The Score. Said Fox wanted to be more conservative but Elway wasn't down with that.

He said from what he's learned about Fox, he will want more control this next time out, which means a conservative approach on offense, good D, and play a field position game. And then my stomach turned when he mentioned Fox being close to Greg Knapp in terms of what type of OC he'd bring in.

Crossing my fingers for Marrone, but have a feeling Fox gets this job by tomorrow.

Elway controlled the game plan?

 

[flapgreen]

Interesting player feedback on Kyle Shanahan. Some really like him & supported him in #Browns mess. Others dislike him, immensely.

 

[White Lightning]

Hub did make a good point about an older coach like Fox/Skeletor probably would not be cool with taking orders from a "young punk" like Pace.

Hold out for Quinn. As much as I hate to say it, I hope Seattle loses to GB so we can get Quinn in the fold next week. The Senior Bowl is fast approaching.

I can see Fox going to ATL or BUF beforehand. Marrone has ties to Pace, so he's probably the fallback option unless we get impatient and reach, if Seattle plays for a few more weeks.

BLASPHEMER! But that's a good moral dilemma, would you want the "best" coach available in exchange for a Packer's SB victory? Personally, I would rather have coach 1A then suffer through another GB title.

 

[flapgreen]

Hub did make a good point about an older coach like Fox/Skeletor probably would not be cool with taking orders from a "young punk" like Pace.

Hold out for Quinn. As much as I hate to say it, I hope Seattle loses to GB so we can get Quinn in the fold next week. The Senior Bowl is fast approaching.

I can see Fox going to ATL or BUF beforehand. Marrone has ties to Pace, so he's probably the fallback option unless we get impatient and reach, if Seattle plays for a few more weeks.

I don't get the Quinn love. Gus had that defense in place when Quinn took over and he hasn't exactly been lighting it up in Jacksonville. Quinn may be good but he's far from a sure thing.

 

[flapgreen]

Mullin is probably my favorite Bears guy. Hub has some good points sometimes but he rarely has anything good to say and never shuts up.

Eta: Ironic I know...

 

[-X-]

Hub did make a good point about an older coach like Fox/Skeletor probably would not be cool with taking orders from a "young punk" like Pace.

Hold out for Quinn. As much as I hate to say it, I hope Seattle loses to GB so we can get Quinn in the fold next week. The Senior Bowl is fast approaching.

I can see Fox going to ATL or BUF beforehand. Marrone has ties to Pace, so he's probably the fallback option unless we get impatient and reach, if Seattle plays for a few more weeks.

BLASPHEMER! But that's a good moral dilemma, would you want the "best" coach available in exchange for a Packer's SB victory? Personally, I would rather have coach 1A then suffer through another GB title.

I never said anything about a SB victory. I inferred I want Seattle to lose in the NFC championship, regardless of the opponent. Dallas was robbed.

 

[RBM]

Just heard a Denver beat guy on The Score. Said Fox wanted to be more conservative but Elway wasn't down with that.

He said from what he's learned about Fox, he will want more control this next time out, which means a conservative approach on offense, good D, and play a field position game. And then my stomach turned when he mentioned Fox being close to Greg Knapp in terms of what type of OC he'd bring in.

Crossing my fingers for Marrone, but have a feeling Fox gets this job by tomorrow.

Elway controlled the game plan?

He meant going forward.

 

[-X-]

Hub did make a good point about an older coach like Fox/Skeletor probably would not be cool with taking orders from a "young punk" like Pace.

Hold out for Quinn. As much as I hate to say it, I hope Seattle loses to GB so we can get Quinn in the fold next week. The Senior Bowl is fast approaching.

I can see Fox going to ATL or BUF beforehand. Marrone has ties to Pace, so he's probably the fallback option unless we get impatient and reach, if Seattle plays for a few more weeks.

I don't get the Quinn love. Gus had that defense in place when Quinn took over and he hasn't exactly been lighting it up in Jacksonville. Quinn may be good but he's far from a sure thing.

Quinn runs an under 4-3. His defense absolutely shut down Denver in the SB. Our talent is too suspect to even think about switching to a 3-4. Every HC candidate is a crap shoot.

 

[flapgreen]

Just heard a Denver beat guy on The Score. Said Fox wanted to be more conservative but Elway wasn't down with that.

He said from what he's learned about Fox, he will want more control this next time out, which means a conservative approach on offense, good D, and play a field position game. And then my stomach turned when he mentioned Fox being close to Greg Knapp in terms of what type of OC he'd bring in.

Crossing my fingers for Marrone, but have a feeling Fox gets this job by tomorrow.

Elway controlled the game plan?

He meant going forward.

Oh, gotcha.

 

[flapgreen]

Hub did make a good point about an older coach like Fox/Skeletor probably would not be cool with taking orders from a "young punk" like Pace.

Hold out for Quinn. As much as I hate to say it, I hope Seattle loses to GB so we can get Quinn in the fold next week. The Senior Bowl is fast approaching.

I can see Fox going to ATL or BUF beforehand. Marrone has ties to Pace, so he's probably the fallback option unless we get impatient and reach, if Seattle plays for a few more weeks.

BLASPHEMER! But that's a good moral dilemma, would you want the "best" coach available in exchange for a Packer's SB victory? Personally, I would rather have coach 1A then suffer through another GB title.

I never said anything about a SB victory. I inferred I want Seattle to lose in the NFC championship, regardless of the opponent. Dallas was robbed.

If anyone can take them down, it's Rodgers.

 

[3nOut]

I mentioned Quinn very early on and still think he'd be a good HC. However, with an inexperienced first time GM at the helm, I think it would be wise to bring someone like Fox in who can help him as long as neither one's ego gets in the way. From what I've read so far, I don't think that will be an issue. In Denver, it was Elways ego, not Fox's.

 

[twistd]

A buddy of mine listens to the Score on his way to and from work. He said a theory he heard repeatedly was that the reason Ballard wasn't hired is because he wanted to get rid of Cutler. Pace was willing to hang on to Cutler. I don't know if this was all speculation or whether this came from an insider in the Bears organization. If it is true then we will get to enjoy Jay pouting and throwing the ball to the other team again this next season.

Are you serious with this? The guys on the Score know no more than you or me, their whole job is to make stuff up to get people to listen to them complain on the radio about how they could do better

I prefaced this by saying that I didn't even hear this with my own ears, but I don't think it is unreasonable. I've heard a number of anonymous NFL personnel people quoted saying the Bears would be better off without Cutler. That getting rid of Cutler is addition by subtraction. So the idea that Ballard would have preferred to move forward without Cutler seems reasonable. I think the Bears could find a trade partner in either Tennessee or Buffalo and then let them deal with that ridiculous contract. I suspect that in that case the Bears would still be on the hook for some of that contract, but less than they are now. Dumb and dumber, (McCaskey and Phillips) may not have wanted to eat more contract money after having to swallow the contracts of both Emery and Trestman. Dumb and dumber must have signed off on Cutler's new contract and they may not want to admit they were wrong. Maybe dumb and dumber just wanted a split with the past and Ballard represented the past. Or maybe Ballard insisted he wanted to part ways with Cutler and Pace was willing to hang on to him. I don't know, but I don't think it is a preposterous theory.

I think the Score guys have connections with the Bears beat reporters, they have them on the air. I think they interview people from around the league, so they have some contacts. It doesn't prove this right, but they are not totally uniformed.

 

[twistd]

Hub did make a good point about an older coach like Fox/Skeletor probably would not be cool with taking orders from a "young punk" like Pace.

Hold out for Quinn. As much as I hate to say it, I hope Seattle loses to GB so we can get Quinn in the fold next week. The Senior Bowl is fast approaching.

I can see Fox going to ATL or BUF beforehand. Marrone has ties to Pace, so he's probably the fallback option unless we get impatient and reach, if Seattle plays for a few more weeks.

BLASPHEMER! But that's a good moral dilemma, would you want the "best" coach available in exchange for a Packer's SB victory? Personally, I would rather have coach 1A then suffer through another GB title.

I never said anything about a SB victory. I inferred I want Seattle to lose in the NFC championship, regardless of the opponent. Dallas was robbed.

How can you pull for the Packers against anyone? I'm hoping Seattle pummels the Packers. I hope Rodgers spends the day on his back. I suspect that the Seattle D will make life difficult for Rodgers and that the Seahawks will grind away on the ground with Lynch.

 

[DaveL]

Mullin is probably my favorite Bears guy. Hub has some good points sometimes but he rarely has anything good to say and never shuts up.

Eta: Ironic I know...

As long as it's not Wright or Biggs, I'm ok with it...those two have the agenda of a politician. Though neither compared to how bad Pompei was

edit: I do love how I can tell Moon apart from everyone else in press conferences, makes me like him a bit more knowing I can hear his questions

 

[flapgreen]

I loathe Pompei. Does he work for the Bears or something? He's pathetic