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****Official 2015 Chicago Bears Offseason Thread **** (1 Viewer)

RBM said:
Very disappointing to not see Hue Jackson and Rex Ryan on the interview list. Guys who've been successful for a long time in the league.

All these new coordinators are more crap shoots. Sick of that. I mean what do we really know about Todd Bowles?
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Disappointed that Hue hasn't been mentioned but maybe Pace will bring in some guys he likes now.
 
flapgreen said:
RBM said:
Very disappointing to not see Hue Jackson and Rex Ryan on the interview list. Guys who've been successful for a long time in the league.

All these new coordinators are more crap shoots. Sick of that. I mean what do we really know about Todd Bowles?
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Disappointed that Hue hasn't been mentioned but maybe Pace will bring in some guys he likes now.
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Like Sean Payton

 
KCitons said:
flapgreen said:
RBM said:
Very disappointing to not see Hue Jackson and Rex Ryan on the interview list. Guys who've been successful for a long time in the league.

All these new coordinators are more crap shoots. Sick of that. I mean what do we really know about Todd Bowles?
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Disappointed that Hue hasn't been mentioned but maybe Pace will bring in some guys he likes now.
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Like Sean Payton
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:lmao:
 
Kyle Shanahan or Chud at OC would be a great thing. Then Wade Phillips or Spagnuolo DC. Of course would only get one of those because the HC brought in will run one side of ball

 
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flapgreen said:
Kyle Shanahan or Chud at OC would be a great thing. Then Wade Phillips or Spagnuolo DC. Of course would only get one of those because the HC brought in will run one side of ball
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Kyle is going where Daddy goes. I suspect Shanahan is going to get one of the jobs. Wade Phillips would be a good DC.

 
I'm with twisted, I just read in the Trib (per Gabriel who was the source for the recent Ballard articles) that Ballard may have "scared" the bears because he knew the organization, knew where the underlying issues were, and was bent on changing them. But the new guy seems sharp and is a fast riser, we'll see. One of my concerns is that he's very young and has only been with one organization. (And from EIU for college). I mean, who does he actually know to hire on the player evaluation side? I'm assuming he has limited exposure to quality personnel talent, and that will limit the quality of his staff. All speculation I know, fingers crossed.

 
-X- said:
Hub likes it:

http://chicagofootball.com/2015/01/09/hub-arkush-chicago-bears-get-it-right-hiring-ryan-pace-as-general-manager/aq1xrfl/
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There is good and bad out of his analysis. Hub says that Pace was hired to redesign and refurbish the front office. That certainly is necessary. But a couple of the biggest obstacles to that process are the McCaskey family, and Ted Phillips. Neither of those are going anywhere. So, I think regardless of this hire being Pace or Ballard there is a limited amount they can do in the front office to fix things. Hopefully Pace will be given a lot of autonomy to make changes as he sees fit. The Bears have been very reluctant to do that in the past, so let's see what he is allowed to do.

The good thing about him is what Hub talked about his being a part of the Saints when they went through Katrina, bountygate, and the attendant suspensions, while still helping them build a Super Bowl team. Being a part of the organization and helping navigate through these difficult issues is good experience. The Bears have a number of difficult issues to deal with now, and perhaps what he learned through all of this will help him guide this organization through their rough waters ahead.

Something I would like to point out is that there are two reasons that the Saints have been a consistent playoff participant this last eight years, and won a Super Bowl. Those reasons are Drew Brees and Sean Payton. The Patriots lost Brady in 2008 and still went 11-5. The Colts lost Peyton Manning in 2011 and went 2-14. When the Saints lost Payton because of the bountygate scandal they went 7-9. I believe that the Saints success has more to do with Payton and Brees than it does with how well this organization has been run. If you take away Brees and Payton the Saints are worse than the Bears have been the last eight years.

 
twistd said:
-X- said:
Hub likes it:

http://chicagofootball.com/2015/01/09/hub-arkush-chicago-bears-get-it-right-hiring-ryan-pace-as-general-manager/aq1xrfl/
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There is good and bad out of his analysis. Hub says that Pace was hired to redesign and refurbish the front office. That certainly is necessary. But a couple of the biggest obstacles to that process are the McCaskey family, and Ted Phillips. Neither of those are going anywhere. So, I think regardless of this hire being Pace or Ballard there is a limited amount they can do in the front office to fix things. Hopefully Pace will be given a lot of autonomy to make changes as he sees fit. The Bears have been very reluctant to do that in the past, so let's see what he is allowed to do.

The good thing about him is what Hub talked about his being a part of the Saints when they went through Katrina, bountygate, and the attendant suspensions, while still helping them build a Super Bowl team. Being a part of the organization and helping navigate through these difficult issues is good experience. The Bears have a number of difficult issues to deal with now, and perhaps what he learned through all of this will help him guide this organization through their rough waters ahead.

Something I would like to point out is that there are two reasons that the Saints have been a consistent playoff participant this last eight years, and won a Super Bowl. Those reasons are Drew Brees and Sean Payton. The Patriots lost Brady in 2008 and still went 11-5. The Colts lost Peyton Manning in 2011 and went 2-14. When the Saints lost Payton because of the bountygate scandal they went 7-9. I believe that the Saints success has more to do with Payton and Brees than it does with how well this organization has been run. If you take away Brees and Payton the Saints are worse than the Bears have been the last eight years.
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How was Emery/Trestman limited from the McCaskey's/Phillips?

I think people want to blame someone for the Bears failure the past few decades and that's the easy thing to say.

 
Upon first blush, I think the Bears botched this completely ...

They passed on Ballard. A guy with connections to Halas Hall, but most importantly, a guy hell bent on revamping the "old way" the Bears do business. He wanted to change the structure so much, like most have posted they too want, that he "scared" the Bears away. I read that as he scared the "old regime" (i.e., Ted Phillips) by offering solutions relating to many of the problems that stand in the way of the Bears becoming a world class football organization. This does not surprise me, as anyone can read in my posts throughout this thread.

Conversely, they picked a guy in Pace who has run the Saints over the past two years on the Player-Personnel side. The Saints, who have had MAJOR cap issues over the past 2 years. And Pace possesses limited experience in scouting/drafting when you compare his resume with Ballards.

I will say this, since Ted Phillips is so close with people in New Orleans, Pace will get more than 2-3 years. But, this will be the same old Bears in 5-7 years.

It's too bad some refuse to change.

 
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tdmills said:
twistd said:
-X- said:
Hub likes it:

http://chicagofootball.com/2015/01/09/hub-arkush-chicago-bears-get-it-right-hiring-ryan-pace-as-general-manager/aq1xrfl/
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There is good and bad out of his analysis. Hub says that Pace was hired to redesign and refurbish the front office. That certainly is necessary. But a couple of the biggest obstacles to that process are the McCaskey family, and Ted Phillips. Neither of those are going anywhere. So, I think regardless of this hire being Pace or Ballard there is a limited amount they can do in the front office to fix things. Hopefully Pace will be given a lot of autonomy to make changes as he sees fit. The Bears have been very reluctant to do that in the past, so let's see what he is allowed to do.

The good thing about him is what Hub talked about his being a part of the Saints when they went through Katrina, bountygate, and the attendant suspensions, while still helping them build a Super Bowl team. Being a part of the organization and helping navigate through these difficult issues is good experience. The Bears have a number of difficult issues to deal with now, and perhaps what he learned through all of this will help him guide this organization through their rough waters ahead.

Something I would like to point out is that there are two reasons that the Saints have been a consistent playoff participant this last eight years, and won a Super Bowl. Those reasons are Drew Brees and Sean Payton. The Patriots lost Brady in 2008 and still went 11-5. The Colts lost Peyton Manning in 2011 and went 2-14. When the Saints lost Payton because of the bountygate scandal they went 7-9. I believe that the Saints success has more to do with Payton and Brees than it does with how well this organization has been run. If you take away Brees and Payton the Saints are worse than the Bears have been the last eight years.
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How was Emery/Trestman limited from the McCaskey's/Phillips?

I think people want to blame someone for the Bears failure the past few decades and that's the easy thing to say.
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A couple of things you can point to, the Bears hired Emery, then forced him to keep Lovie. Then when Emery fired Lovie they forced him to keep Marinelli. Marinelli chose to move on, but the Bears brain trust was forcing Emery to keep him. Who knows him much more of that goes on behind closed doors?

When you look at the last twenty years, the Bears just hired their fourth GM. They are about to hire their fifth coach during that period. In twenty years they have been to the playoffs four times, and lost in the Super Bowl once. They have been to one Super Bowl in the last 29 years. They have been better than .500 seven times out of the last twenty years. That is a pretty strong record of futility. Through all the coaching changes, and the GM changes, the two things that have been consistent during that time is the McCaskeys, and Ted Phillips. When you keep changing everything else, and the results remain the same, you have to recognize that the cause may be the things that stay the same year in and year out.

 
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twistd said:
-X- said:
Hub likes it:

http://chicagofootball.com/2015/01/09/hub-arkush-chicago-bears-get-it-right-hiring-ryan-pace-as-general-manager/aq1xrfl/
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There is good and bad out of his analysis. Hub says that Pace was hired to redesign and refurbish the front office. That certainly is necessary. But a couple of the biggest obstacles to that process are the McCaskey family, and Ted Phillips. Neither of those are going anywhere. So, I think regardless of this hire being Pace or Ballard there is a limited amount they can do in the front office to fix things. Hopefully Pace will be given a lot of autonomy to make changes as he sees fit. The Bears have been very reluctant to do that in the past, so let's see what he is allowed to do.

The good thing about him is what Hub talked about his being a part of the Saints when they went through Katrina, bountygate, and the attendant suspensions, while still helping them build a Super Bowl team. Being a part of the organization and helping navigate through these difficult issues is good experience. The Bears have a number of difficult issues to deal with now, and perhaps what he learned through all of this will help him guide this organization through their rough waters ahead.

Something I would like to point out is that there are two reasons that the Saints have been a consistent playoff participant this last eight years, and won a Super Bowl. Those reasons are Drew Brees and Sean Payton. The Patriots lost Brady in 2008 and still went 11-5. The Colts lost Peyton Manning in 2011 and went 2-14. When the Saints lost Payton because of the bountygate scandal they went 7-9. I believe that the Saints success has more to do with Payton and Brees than it does with how well this organization has been run. If you take away Brees and Payton the Saints are worse than the Bears have been the last eight years.
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Clearly the Saints have been inconsistent since their Super Bowl win. But their defense was No. 2 in turnovers forced the Super Bowl year of 2009 and a top 10 D in 2010. It takes a full roster to be a perennial playoff contender and Case played an important role in that according to Sean Payton.

If you take away Brees and Payton, the Saints are worse than the Bears in the last 8 years. Sure, if you take away Brady and Belichick, the Patriots would be worse than the Bears also. Case has been around a championship organization and as you pointed out, he was a part of getting them through multiple difficult issues.

 
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ditka311 said:
oddsbodkins said:
Hub liking this is a bad sign.
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Yep. But don't worry, he will end up disliking him this late spring after he drafts a horrible pick so there is hope. You know, a disappointing pick like Kyle Long.
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There was a lot of reason to question the Kyle Long pick.

Flunked out of FSU. Think about how hard that has to be.

Started a grand total of 10 games

Guards aren't normally 1st round picks

I think he was the oldest 1st round pick in the draft that year.

 
Papa John said:
Upon first blush, I think the Bears botched this completely ...

They passed on Ballard. A guy with connections to Halas Hall, but most importantly, a guy hell bent on revamping the "old way" the Bears do business. He wanted to change the structure so much, like most have posted they too want, that he "scared" the Bears away. I read that as he scared the "old regime" (i.e., Ted Phillips) by offering solutions relating to many of the problems that stand in the way of the Bears becoming a world class football organization. This does not surprise me, as anyone can read in my posts throughout this thread.

Conversely, they picked a guy in Pace who has run the Saints over the past two years on the Player-Personnel side. The Saints, who have had MAJOR cap issues over the past 2 years. And Pace possesses limited experience in scouting/drafting when you compare his resume with Ballards.

I will say this, since Ted Phillips is so close with people in New Orleans, Pace will get more than 2-3 years. But, this will be the same old Bears in 5-7 years.

It's too bad some refuse to change.
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And if they had hired Ballard half this board would be complaining that this was the same old Bears just hiring yes men that have already worked with and it's going to turn out like every other hiring of the past 10 years.

No way to guess if this is going to work or not. They didn't drag their feet, most of the reports say this guy is at least a competent hire, let's see how it plays out.

Also, where does the Ted Phillips is so close with people in NO come from? I honestly hadn't heard that before.

 
The Tick said:
Papa John said:
Upon first blush, I think the Bears botched this completely ...

They passed on Ballard. A guy with connections to Halas Hall, but most importantly, a guy hell bent on revamping the "old way" the Bears do business. He wanted to change the structure so much, like most have posted they too want, that he "scared" the Bears away. I read that as he scared the "old regime" (i.e., Ted Phillips) by offering solutions relating to many of the problems that stand in the way of the Bears becoming a world class football organization. This does not surprise me, as anyone can read in my posts throughout this thread.

Conversely, they picked a guy in Pace who has run the Saints over the past two years on the Player-Personnel side. The Saints, who have had MAJOR cap issues over the past 2 years. And Pace possesses limited experience in scouting/drafting when you compare his resume with Ballards.

I will say this, since Ted Phillips is so close with people in New Orleans, Pace will get more than 2-3 years. But, this will be the same old Bears in 5-7 years.

It's too bad some refuse to change.
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And if they had hired Ballard half this board would be complaining that this was the same old Bears just hiring yes men that have already worked with and it's going to turn out like every other hiring of the past 10 years.No way to guess if this is going to work or not. They didn't drag their feet, most of the reports say this guy is at least a competent hire, let's see how it plays out.

Also, where does the Ted Phillips is so close with people in NO come from? I honestly hadn't heard that before.
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First, the Ted-Loomis relationship has been reported multiple times on the Score.

Second, I don't care who complains on this board about any hire, as it seems you do. That is part of the purpose of this thread. I offered my opinion about the missed opportunity. I really don't see your point there ... Other than your "Modus Operandi" at attempts to bait others into arguing with you on this board. I guess, bait taken there, lol.

 
Just heard PC and follow up interview on Score.

Saying all the right things obviously. Build through draft; going to immerse himself into the current roster; needs to meet and get to know Cutler.

Really looks at Sean Payton as a model coach it seems like. Not necessarily on Xs and Os but he kept mentioning discipline and being charismatic.

Wonder if Twistd heard? Teddy made sure to confirm Pace will be reporting to him.

 
Papa John said:
The Tick said:
Papa John said:
Upon first blush, I think the Bears botched this completely ...

They passed on Ballard. A guy with connections to Halas Hall, but most importantly, a guy hell bent on revamping the "old way" the Bears do business. He wanted to change the structure so much, like most have posted they too want, that he "scared" the Bears away. I read that as he scared the "old regime" (i.e., Ted Phillips) by offering solutions relating to many of the problems that stand in the way of the Bears becoming a world class football organization. This does not surprise me, as anyone can read in my posts throughout this thread.

Conversely, they picked a guy in Pace who has run the Saints over the past two years on the Player-Personnel side. The Saints, who have had MAJOR cap issues over the past 2 years. And Pace possesses limited experience in scouting/drafting when you compare his resume with Ballards.

I will say this, since Ted Phillips is so close with people in New Orleans, Pace will get more than 2-3 years. But, this will be the same old Bears in 5-7 years.

It's too bad some refuse to change.
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And if they had hired Ballard half this board would be complaining that this was the same old Bears just hiring yes men that have already worked with and it's going to turn out like every other hiring of the past 10 years.No way to guess if this is going to work or not. They didn't drag their feet, most of the reports say this guy is at least a competent hire, let's see how it plays out.

Also, where does the Ted Phillips is so close with people in NO come from? I honestly hadn't heard that before.
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First, the Ted-Loomis relationship has been reported multiple times on the Score.

Second, I don't care who complains on this board about any hire, as it seems you do. That is part of the purpose of this thread. I offered my opinion about the missed opportunity. I really don't see your point there ... Other than your "Modus Operandi" at attempts to bait others into arguing with you on this board. I guess, bait taken there, lol.
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Interesting, I honestly had never heard of a Ted-Loomis relationship.

Second, didn't know I was considered a big baiter in this thread, I normally tend to be pretty in the middle on stuff, but maybe you have a different opinion. I just think it's funny that so many people were screaming about them staying bears-ish for everything, and just doing the same thing they have done before, and then we they go off and do something seemingly non-bearish, there are complaints that they made a mistake not hiring a guy who most of his experience has been inside the club.

Just seems they couldn't win in public opinion.

 
RBM said:
Just heard PC and follow up interview on Score.

Saying all the right things obviously. Build through draft; going to immerse himself into the current roster; needs to meet and get to know Cutler.

Really looks at Sean Payton as a model coach it seems like. Not necessarily on Xs and Os but he kept mentioning discipline and being charismatic.

Wonder if Twistd heard? Teddy made sure to confirm Pace will be reporting to him.
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Yeah, I though he stuck that in there pretty clearly, I'm just not sure how worried I am about it. I've made it pretty clear while I don't think I like Ted, I thought they gave Emory pretty much control of football operations.

I kinda relate it to a lot of corporate structures, in an engineering company, a lot of times you hit a point where the engineering side reports to some non-engineering management level, it can be a problem if they try to stick their head down too far, but if they stay out of the way, it's just a reporting structure. It's all about empowering the guy at the top of the football level regardless of where that level is. If they truly empower the GM fine, if this is the right guy we can have some success. If they don't empower him, yeah, we'll be in trouble again before too long.

 
The Tick said:
Papa John said:
The Tick said:
Papa John said:
Upon first blush, I think the Bears botched this completely ...

They passed on Ballard. A guy with connections to Halas Hall, but most importantly, a guy hell bent on revamping the "old way" the Bears do business. He wanted to change the structure so much, like most have posted they too want, that he "scared" the Bears away. I read that as he scared the "old regime" (i.e., Ted Phillips) by offering solutions relating to many of the problems that stand in the way of the Bears becoming a world class football organization. This does not surprise me, as anyone can read in my posts throughout this thread.

Conversely, they picked a guy in Pace who has run the Saints over the past two years on the Player-Personnel side. The Saints, who have had MAJOR cap issues over the past 2 years. And Pace possesses limited experience in scouting/drafting when you compare his resume with Ballards.

I will say this, since Ted Phillips is so close with people in New Orleans, Pace will get more than 2-3 years. But, this will be the same old Bears in 5-7 years.

It's too bad some refuse to change.
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And if they had hired Ballard half this board would be complaining that this was the same old Bears just hiring yes men that have already worked with and it's going to turn out like every other hiring of the past 10 years.No way to guess if this is going to work or not. They didn't drag their feet, most of the reports say this guy is at least a competent hire, let's see how it plays out.

Also, where does the Ted Phillips is so close with people in NO come from? I honestly hadn't heard that before.
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First, the Ted-Loomis relationship has been reported multiple times on the Score.

Second, I don't care who complains on this board about any hire, as it seems you do. That is part of the purpose of this thread. I offered my opinion about the missed opportunity. I really don't see your point there ... Other than your "Modus Operandi" at attempts to bait others into arguing with you on this board. I guess, bait taken there, lol.
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Interesting, I honestly had never heard of a Ted-Loomis relationship.Second, didn't know I was considered a big baiter in this thread, I normally tend to be pretty in the middle on stuff, but maybe you have a different opinion. I just think it's funny that so many people were screaming about them staying bears-ish for everything, and just doing the same thing they have done before, and then we they go off and do something seemingly non-bearish, there are complaints that they made a mistake not hiring a guy who most of his experience has been inside the club.

Just seems they couldn't win in public opinion.
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Yes, I agree - they were not going to win either way in the realm of public opinion ... Since they kept Ted in there at his current position.

 
Teryl Austin interview? This guy was a coordinator for ONE year and his D was good, but nothing special.

 
ryno1980 said:
twistd said:
-X- said:
Hub likes it:

http://chicagofootball.com/2015/01/09/hub-arkush-chicago-bears-get-it-right-hiring-ryan-pace-as-general-manager/aq1xrfl/
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There is good and bad out of his analysis. Hub says that Pace was hired to redesign and refurbish the front office. That certainly is necessary. But a couple of the biggest obstacles to that process are the McCaskey family, and Ted Phillips. Neither of those are going anywhere. So, I think regardless of this hire being Pace or Ballard there is a limited amount they can do in the front office to fix things. Hopefully Pace will be given a lot of autonomy to make changes as he sees fit. The Bears have been very reluctant to do that in the past, so let's see what he is allowed to do.

The good thing about him is what Hub talked about his being a part of the Saints when they went through Katrina, bountygate, and the attendant suspensions, while still helping them build a Super Bowl team. Being a part of the organization and helping navigate through these difficult issues is good experience. The Bears have a number of difficult issues to deal with now, and perhaps what he learned through all of this will help him guide this organization through their rough waters ahead.

Something I would like to point out is that there are two reasons that the Saints have been a consistent playoff participant this last eight years, and won a Super Bowl. Those reasons are Drew Brees and Sean Payton. The Patriots lost Brady in 2008 and still went 11-5. The Colts lost Peyton Manning in 2011 and went 2-14. When the Saints lost Payton because of the bountygate scandal they went 7-9. I believe that the Saints success has more to do with Payton and Brees than it does with how well this organization has been run. If you take away Brees and Payton the Saints are worse than the Bears have been the last eight years.
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Clearly the Saints have been inconsistent since their Super Bowl win. But their defense was No. 2 in turnovers forced the Super Bowl year of 2009 and a top 10 D in 2010. It takes a full roster to be a perennial playoff contender and Case played an important role in that according to Sean Payton.

If you take away Brees and Payton, the Saints are worse than the Bears in the last 8 years. Sure, if you take away Brady and Belichick, the Patriots would be worse than the Bears also. Case has been around a championship organization and as you pointed out, he was a part of getting them through multiple difficult issues.
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When the Patriots lost Brady they still functioned well. If the Saints lost Brees I believe that the Saints would be the Colts of 2011. I believe without Brees they are a four or five win team at best. An elite QB covers up a lot of flaws. I don't believe that the Saints organization is anywhere near as strong as the Patriots.

However, that said, coaches and players outside of the Patriots organization have not fared well outside of New England. So while I believe that the Patriots organization is much stronger it doesn't necessarily produce good GM candidates, (Pioli), or head coach candidates, (Mangini, McDaniels, Wies, Cremmel, etc.).

So we will have to see how things go with him.

 
RBM said:
Just heard PC and follow up interview on Score.

Saying all the right things obviously. Build through draft; going to immerse himself into the current roster; needs to meet and get to know Cutler.

Really looks at Sean Payton as a model coach it seems like. Not necessarily on Xs and Os but he kept mentioning discipline and being charismatic.

Wonder if Twistd heard? Teddy made sure to confirm Pace will be reporting to him.
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You hit the thing that troubled me the most. What exactly will Ted's role be? Pace insisted that he will make 100% of the football decisions. Let's hope that is indeed the case. As I pointed out, in the past McCaskey and Phillips have had no problem sticking their nose in to situations where it didn't belong. And Phillips seemed pretty insistent that Pace will be reporting to him. Let us hope that dumb and dumber have learned their lesson and they will, in fact, turn the football decisions over to Pace.

 
Has anyone brought up the Pace-Marrone connection?

I'm intrigued, especially if they have a good relationship.

 
RBM said:
Has anyone brought up the Pace-Marrone connection?

I'm intrigued, especially if they have a good relationship.
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I have heard it brought up. I don't want Marrone either. I really don't like the way things went down in Buffalo.
 
twistd said:
RBM said:
Has anyone brought up the Pace-Marrone connection?

I'm intrigued, especially if they have a good relationship.
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I have heard it brought up. I don't want Marrone either. I really don't like the way things went down in Buffalo.
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Yeah I'm torn. From what I'm hearing he's a huge #####, but a really good football guy. Eats it, sleeps it, ####s it...etcHe did a solid job in Buffalo. That's not an extremely talented team and they were a win away from the playoffs. Yeah I know about Schwartz on D but the head coach is still the head coach. The one big concern is what he saw in Manuel to use a first rounder on him.

Eta: Although Manuel did out duel Cutler in week 1

 
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Per shefty fwiw

Bears prepared to make a major push for Ravens OC Gary Kubiak, per source. Kubiak now free to talk with teams about HC vacancies.

 
A green GM reporting to a clueless CEO/president who reports to a clueless chairman. Yup wash rinse and repeat. Bears fans might never learn a lesson. The only thing that changes is the names and the occasional stud or two that might fall in their lap once every three years in the draft. They passed on the better candidate because they knew that getting a young and energetic green GM would mean that they would never be challenged in the e-suite. The plan ONCE again is to create a scenario where the brain trust would retain their golden parachute padding in about three years of failure based on the excuse of allowing the green GM time to develop. In the meantime, the fans will lineup to put their hard earned money down thinking change AGAIN means valuation but alas the days in November will hit and the gaps will be exposed. I am not exactly impressed with the recent track record of the Saints. Things deteriorated quickly for the Saints to the point of embarrassment and the defense has been almost as bad as the Bears. Maybe the brain trust was impressed with the beating that a lousy Saints team put on the Bears near the end of the season. The Cubs of the NFL

 
We can have the entire Texans staff. Shanahan is available also.

Kubiak

OC - Kyle Shanahan

DC - Wade Phillips

 
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