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****Official 2015 Chicago Bears Offseason Thread **** (1 Viewer)

Weird twitter reports. Started out with some reports the Bears were parting ways with Marshall. The Michael Wright made reference to something coming "soon". Finally, there is a report that Tim Jennings was arrested for DUI.

Still looking for something on Marshall? No way to trade him right now. Bears front office can't be stupid enough to cut him before they hire a GM/HC? Can they? ? ?

Also wondering if this is coming out of some of the coach, GM interviews. Is the front office telling candidates they want to trade away Marshall? I know it's lots of speculation.
Haven't heard the Marshall rumors
Boers and Bernstein have been talking that they have sources that are saying people in high places are done with him and want him gone. Who knows if it has any legs or is going to be any push on a new GM or if someone is just venting. Don't really care if they do, I just don't want ownership/upper management putting requirements into the GM search. Even if the potential GM agrees with the move, would likely turn them off if they feel they will just be told what to do.

 
Weird twitter reports. Started out with some reports the Bears were parting ways with Marshall. The Michael Wright made reference to something coming "soon". Finally, there is a report that Tim Jennings was arrested for DUI.

Still looking for something on Marshall? No way to trade him right now. Bears front office can't be stupid enough to cut him before they hire a GM/HC? Can they? ? ?

Also wondering if this is coming out of some of the coach, GM interviews. Is the front office telling candidates they want to trade away Marshall? I know it's lots of speculation.
Haven't heard the Marshall rumors
Boers and Bernstein have been talking that they have sources that are saying people in high places are done with him and want him gone. Who knows if it has any legs or is going to be any push on a new GM or if someone is just venting. Don't really care if they do, I just don't want ownership/upper management putting requirements into the GM search. Even if the potential GM agrees with the move, would likely turn them off if they feel they will just be told what to do.
The guy challenged people to a fight, via twitter, multiple times this season.

IMO, based on that alone, he's gone. You don't even need to take in house / locker room problems he's causing into consideration

 
The Inside the NFL gig was so stupid. How he was allowed to do that is beyond me. But other than that I don't have any issues with Marshall. The guy is a special talent and I hope he's a Bear next season.
I would say this, Marshall has value. This team isn't going to the playoffs in 2015. Marshall costs a lot of money. Trading him is certainly an option. You could use the money on younger players. If you could trade him for a draft pick it would help. They need to start building with youth. Trading away an asset to get younger has to at least be a consideration. However, McCaskey and Phillips have been saying the Bears can compete for the playoffs next year. So it would seem they would be reluctant to get rid of him.

Trading Marshall to the Patriots makes sense to me. They could use a veteran WR. The Patriots could certainly handle Marshall. It could be a nice fit. Or perhaps the Rams. They have extra draft picks and they desperately need WR help. There are trade partners out there.

 
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Weird twitter reports. Started out with some reports the Bears were parting ways with Marshall. The Michael Wright made reference to something coming "soon". Finally, there is a report that Tim Jennings was arrested for DUI.

Still looking for something on Marshall? No way to trade him right now. Bears front office can't be stupid enough to cut him before they hire a GM/HC? Can they? ? ?

Also wondering if this is coming out of some of the coach, GM interviews. Is the front office telling candidates they want to trade away Marshall? I know it's lots of speculation.
Haven't heard the Marshall rumors
Boers and Bernstein have been talking that they have sources that are saying people in high places are done with him and want him gone. Who knows if it has any legs or is going to be any push on a new GM or if someone is just venting. Don't really care if they do, I just don't want ownership/upper management putting requirements into the GM search. Even if the potential GM agrees with the move, would likely turn them off if they feel they will just be told what to do.
The guy challenged people to a fight, via twitter, multiple times this season.

IMO, based on that alone, he's gone. You don't even need to take in house / locker room problems he's causing into consideration
What locker room problems did he cause?

I could not care less what any of these idiots do on Twitter. That's nonsense and has nothing to do with football.

 
They represent the team when they're not on the field as well. Between him challenging a guy to a fight on Twitter and calling a local radio guy a clown multiple times, the McCaskeys won't want him around. My bet is Marshall is gone and Jay stays.

 
I was going to post a picture of an unhappy Cutler (in response to Marshall possibly leaving) . But when I did a search, every picture had the same facial expression

 
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Weird twitter reports. Started out with some reports the Bears were parting ways with Marshall. The Michael Wright made reference to something coming "soon". Finally, there is a report that Tim Jennings was arrested for DUI.

Still looking for something on Marshall? No way to trade him right now. Bears front office can't be stupid enough to cut him before they hire a GM/HC? Can they? ? ?

Also wondering if this is coming out of some of the coach, GM interviews. Is the front office telling candidates they want to trade away Marshall? I know it's lots of speculation.
Haven't heard the Marshall rumors
Boers and Bernstein have been talking that they have sources that are saying people in high places are done with him and want him gone. Who knows if it has any legs or is going to be any push on a new GM or if someone is just venting. Don't really care if they do, I just don't want ownership/upper management putting requirements into the GM search. Even if the potential GM agrees with the move, would likely turn them off if they feel they will just be told what to do.
The guy challenged people to a fight, via twitter, multiple times this season.

IMO, based on that alone, he's gone. You don't even need to take in house / locker room problems he's causing into consideration
What locker room problems did he cause?

I could not care less what any of these idiots do on Twitter. That's nonsense and has nothing to do with football.
Hub, Mannelly, B&B have all made references to it over the last 3-4 months. And while you can't believe everything they say, I have a hard time dismissing it when it comes to him. He's an off kilter attention whore.

 
They represent the team when they're not on the field as well. Between him challenging a guy to a fight on Twitter and calling a local radio guy a clown multiple times, the McCaskeys won't want him around. My bet is Marshall is gone and Jay stays.
It's not like he's out getting arrested. You'd really be ok with parting ways with top tier players because of nonsense like that? In this day and age there's no way you're going to win with a team of choir boys.

 
Marshall is a guy you want on your side when things are going right but not a guy you want on your side when things are going wrong. He's unstable and can't handle the pressure. Starts pointing fingers etc

Guys like Jared Allen are who you want on your team when things start crumbling. As bad as that unit played at times, they never quit like the offense did. That's one of the only positives I can take from last season. The D was low on talent but never quit.

 
Weird twitter reports. Started out with some reports the Bears were parting ways with Marshall. The Michael Wright made reference to something coming "soon". Finally, there is a report that Tim Jennings was arrested for DUI.

Still looking for something on Marshall? No way to trade him right now. Bears front office can't be stupid enough to cut him before they hire a GM/HC? Can they? ? ?

Also wondering if this is coming out of some of the coach, GM interviews. Is the front office telling candidates they want to trade away Marshall? I know it's lots of speculation.
Haven't heard the Marshall rumors
Boers and Bernstein have been talking that they have sources that are saying people in high places are done with him and want him gone. Who knows if it has any legs or is going to be any push on a new GM or if someone is just venting. Don't really care if they do, I just don't want ownership/upper management putting requirements into the GM search. Even if the potential GM agrees with the move, would likely turn them off if they feel they will just be told what to do.
The guy challenged people to a fight, via twitter, multiple times this season.

IMO, based on that alone, he's gone. You don't even need to take in house / locker room problems he's causing into consideration
What locker room problems did he cause?

I could not care less what any of these idiots do on Twitter. That's nonsense and has nothing to do with football.
Hub, Mannelly, B&B have all made references to it over the last 3-4 months. And while you can't believe everything they say, I have a hard time dismissing it when it comes to him. He's an off kilter attention whore.
So no examples?

 
Marshall is a guy you want on your side when things are going right but not a guy you want on your side when things are going wrong. He's unstable and can't handle the pressure. Starts pointing fingers etc.
Again, I'm going to need examples of him causing a disruption. And I watched every snap this year and he never loafed on one of them.

I really can't believe on a team that's not loaded with talent we're going to just give up a big time player because of a couple of dopey comments on Twitter.

 
They represent the team when they're not on the field as well. Between him challenging a guy to a fight on Twitter and calling a local radio guy a clown multiple times, the McCaskeys won't want him around. My bet is Marshall is gone and Jay stays.
It's not like he's out getting arrested. You'd really be ok with parting ways with top tier players because of nonsense like that? In this day and age there's no way you're going to win with a team of choir boys.
I would. It's not just those incidents either. That alone isn't enough to part with a guy with his talent. It's the whole attitude he brings to the team when things are going bad. We don't need our star receiver talking about how the team could've made a mistake on giving his qb a big contract in the media. It's poor form and just dumb. I don't think a guy getting arrested is the only way we should part with him. Most guys can avoid getting arrested, except Tim Jennings, apparently.
 
218 catches. 23 tds in the two seasons prior to this debacle. One where he played hurt most of it mind you.

Oh well, screw him. We'll just replace him like we replaced Urlacher.

 
Marshall is a guy you want on your side when things are going right but not a guy you want on your side when things are going wrong. He's unstable and can't handle the pressure. Starts pointing fingers etc.
Again, I'm going to need examples of him causing a disruption. And I watched every snap this year and he never loafed on one of them. I really can't believe on a team that's not loaded with talent we're going to just give up a big time player because of a couple of dopey comments on Twitter.
We're never going to hear first hand reports on problems he's caused on the team, if that's what you mean. The closest thing to that is the report of him calling out Cutler in the locker room after the game. But we don't need an injured wr coming off a bug contract himself talking about his qbs contract at all, much less saying he understands if the owners have "buyers remorse." Shortly after, he responded with "hell no!" when asked if he would go somewhere else if Cutler left. Then after Trestman had obviously lost the team and Kromer had ran his mouth about Cutler, Marshall said something along the lines of Trestman and Kromer being the best coaches he'd ever played for and he wanted to keep playing for them. That's a sign of an idiot.
 
218 catches. 23 tds in the two seasons prior to this debacle. One where he played hurt most of it mind you.

Oh well, screw him. We'll just replace him like we replaced Urlacher.
He's a great receiver. There's no denying that, but there's a reason he's already on his 3rd team. I just don't like how he carries himself and the things he says. Maybe getting rid of him would be a mistake. No way of knowing. I bet they part ways, though.
 
Source: #Cardinals defensive coordinator Todd Bowles is scheduled now to interview with the Chicago Bears on Thursday.

Bears GM interview count is up to 4. Team confirmed meeting with Chris Ballard and Ryan Pace: http://t.co/V2rmihHwXN http://t.co/wGEz0zaG1v
I just don't get this. How do you interview coaches without a GM? It's just such a mess.
Either way you meet with the upper levels. Head coaches interviews take 7 hours sometimes. If this kills 4-5 of those hours, then it's smart. Hire GM, come back, meet with GM. It's hardly a mess.

Plus Bowles fulfills the Rooney rule

 
http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs/2014/story/_/id/12125609/tom-brady-bill-belichick-perfect-match

Amidst all the accolades this season is one that might have gotten lost in the sauce: The Week 16 victory over the Jets earned Kraft his 250th win (in his 368th game), tying him with the legendary George Halas as the owners fastest to 250 victories.

It was Kraft who was impressed when Belichick served as the Patriots' defensive backs coach under Bill Parcells in 1996. It was Kraft who parted with a first-round draft choice as compensation for Belichick's services when he abruptly stepped down as the New York Jets' head coach -- after one day with the title -- following the 1999 season. And while Kraft does not take credit for drafting Brady, he has managed to keep him happy and in uniform.

"Look, there have been situations over the past 15, 16 years where the coach and the quarterback could have gone another way," Kraft said. "I worked hard to keep them together. I've learned in my other business that continuity is critical to success. That's the underlying factor in what we've achieved."
 
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RBM said:
flapgreen said:
Marshall is a guy you want on your side when things are going right but not a guy you want on your side when things are going wrong. He's unstable and can't handle the pressure. Starts pointing fingers etc.
Again, I'm going to need examples of him causing a disruption. And I watched every snap this year and he never loafed on one of them.

I really can't believe on a team that's not loaded with talent we're going to just give up a big time player because of a couple of dopey comments on Twitter.
I don't necessarily think you get rid of him because he is disruptive. I think you get rid of him because he has value and you are looking to get younger. I don't think the Bears are back to playoff caliber for at least three years. If you can take his $10 million salary and sign younger players that is good. If you could get a third round draft pick for him, that is good. You have to look to the future and the question is, will Marshall still be important to the team in three years when they could be at a playoff level again?

 
RBM said:
flapgreen said:
Source: #Cardinals defensive coordinator Todd Bowles is scheduled now to interview with the Chicago Bears on Thursday.

Bears GM interview count is up to 4. Team confirmed meeting with Chris Ballard and Ryan Pace: http://t.co/V2rmihHwXN http://t.co/wGEz0zaG1v
I just don't get this. How do you interview coaches without a GM? It's just such a mess.
Was supposed to be Saturday and the thought was that they would have a GM in place, however, it sounds like Arthur Blanks Mother passed away and they have funeral stuff this week, so I heard we switched places with them... not ideal, but you have to find a way to deal with it.

 
RBM said:
flapgreen said:
Source: #Cardinals defensive coordinator Todd Bowles is scheduled now to interview with the Chicago Bears on Thursday.

Bears GM interview count is up to 4. Team confirmed meeting with Chris Ballard and Ryan Pace: http://t.co/V2rmihHwXN http://t.co/wGEz0zaG1v
I just don't get this. How do you interview coaches without a GM? It's just such a mess.
Was supposed to be Saturday and the thought was that they would have a GM in place, however, it sounds like Arthur Blanks Mother passed away and they have funeral stuff this week, so I heard we switched places with them... not ideal, but you have to find a way to deal with it.
And Chris Ballard is supposedly still in Chicago, so they may have a GM for this interview.

 
http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Bears-hire-Pace-as-general-manager/51474dd1-8fc6-4b74-b7e3-b9bf90f30277

The Bears on Thursday hired Ryan Pace as their general manager.

Pace has spent the last 14 seasons with the New Orleans Saints, including the past two years as director of player personnel. Prior to that, he served as an operations assistant (2001), scouting assistant (2002-03), pro scout (2004-06) and director of pro scouting (2007-12).

As director of player personnel, Pace helped manage all facets of the Saints' scouting and evaluation of college and pro prospects along with the team's roster.

Ryan Pace Pace helped the Saints make the playoffs four of the last six seasons, beginning in 2009 when they defeated the Colts in Super Bowl XLIV. He was a four-year letterman as a defensive end at Eastern Illinois, where he served as a team captain as a senior.

"He is really good at what he does," Saints coach Sean Payton said about Pace last week. "He's a big part of what we do. He's very talented and I know he has been promoted here a few times, and deservedly so. I get fired up when he comes to see me first thing [in the] morning. His mind is already racing. I know he is all-in."

Pace replaces Phil Emery, who was relieved of his duties along with head coach Marc Trestman on Dec. 29, one day after the Bears concluded a disappointing 5-11 season.

Pace was one of four candidates to interview for the Bears' general manager position. The others were Chiefs director of player personnel Chris Ballard, Texans director of pro personnel Brian Gaine and Titans vice president of player personnel Lake Dawson.

Speaking to the media Tuesday, Saints general manager Mickey Loomis was asked about the possibility of Pace leaving New Orleans for another team.

"I'd hate to lose him and yet, he's ready for a general manager's job," Loomis said. "He's talented. I would expect to lose him at some point."

With Pace on board, the Bears will continue to search for a new head coach. Last week they interviewed Broncos offensive coordinator Adam Gase and Seahawks defensive coordinator Dan Quinn.

 
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Cons -

Hasn't done it before. I'm much more worried about this when it comes to hiring a head coach, but experience would be nice.

I think I'd like to see someone with more of a college scouting background. You succeed through the draft and the majority of his history looks to be on the pro side of things. Hopefully he learned a lot over the last two years.

Pros-

First and foremost, doesn't have the stench of Halas Hall on him

Partook in the turnaround of a franchise, mired in decades of ineptness, into a perennial contender and eventual Super Bowl champion.

 
I am thinking that I hope they chose the right guy in Pace. This hiring to me is as important if not more so than hiring the head coach because they will continue to suck if they don't start drafting better.

 
I think Ballard was the right guy. The problem is that it is hard to trust this decision because Phillips and McCaskey made it. I hope Pace turns in to a good hire, but I am not optimistic. I think he is too young. I think he doesn't have enough experience on the scouting side of things. Ballard was a better candidate and I'd guess he will turn in to a better GM.

 
I'm optimistic and happy they went a different direction than everyone thought. Definitely an Accorsi influence. Hard to know much about the GM types but both come highly recommended.

 
I think Ballard was the right guy. The problem is that it is hard to trust this decision because Phillips and McCaskey made it. I hope Pace turns in to a good hire, but I am not optimistic. I think he is too young. I think he doesn't have enough experience on the scouting side of things. Ballard was a better candidate and I'd guess he will turn in to a better GM.
14 years with Saints and promoted to highest level he could with that team. He knows his stuff
 
I am thinking that I hope they chose the right guy in Pace. This hiring to me is as important if not more so than hiring the head coach because they will continue to suck if they don't start drafting better.
Exactly. The Bears have drafted poorly for a long time and I am concerned that Ballard may have been the better choice in that regard. If they chose Pace because he was not "the past", then I have concerns if the pick was primarily for optics. They need to get the GM pick right since the best coach in the world can't coach if he has little talent to work with.

Maybe I was too far in the Ballard camp but I am skeptical. I hope Pace proves me wrong though.

 
I think Ballard was the right guy. The problem is that it is hard to trust this decision because Phillips and McCaskey made it. I hope Pace turns in to a good hire, but I am not optimistic. I think he is too young. I think he doesn't have enough experience on the scouting side of things. Ballard was a better candidate and I'd guess he will turn in to a better GM.
14 years with Saints and promoted to highest level he could with that team. He knows his stuff
Look at the last ten years of Saints drafts and see how many names jump out at you. They have not drafted well. That is not comforting, and that doesn't seem like a good recommendation for someone out of that organization.

 
GM's aren't like coaches, you almost never see a guy who's done it before, though there have been some exceptions with the guy hired in Miami.

This guy has been with what has looked like a pretty good program in New Orleans, except for a couple years, they have always been right in it lately. He'll need to find a good directory of college scouting if his past is more on the pro side, but that can be done.

I don't think I could have said any of those 4 guys would be a "bad" choice, it's seems harder to judge that than coaches with on-field success.

We moved quick enough to not miss any of the coaches, and hopefully we can keep this going.

Here's hoping he's the right guy.

 
This is from the Chicago Tribune:

"Then in what one source described as McCaskey’s quest to break the pattern, Pace emerged after an impressive interview that dazzled McCaskey and team president Ted Phillips."

See this is what worries me. You impressed two morons. What did you do? Maybe you tied ballon animals. Maybe you did shadow puppets to Queen's 'We are the Champions.' I would really like to hear Accorsi's assessment of this hiring. The one positive thing is we are hearing some positive feedback from some NFL front office people around the league. I don't trust George McCaskey or Ted Phillips even a tiny bit.

The coaching hire could tell us a lot about Pace as a GM.

 
This is from the Chicago Tribune:

"Then in what one source described as McCaskey’s quest to break the pattern, Pace emerged after an impressive interview that dazzled McCaskey and team president Ted Phillips."

See this is what worries me. You impressed two morons. What did you do? Maybe you tied ballon animals. Maybe you did shadow puppets to Queen's 'We are the Champions.' I would really like to hear Accorsi's assessment of this hiring. The one positive thing is we are hearing some positive feedback from some NFL front office people around the league. I don't trust George McCaskey or Ted Phillips even a tiny bit.

The coaching hire could tell us a lot about Pace as a GM.
Exactly. Phil Emery dazzled these two goofs remember.

 
Absolutely impossible for us fans to evaluate any of these GM candidates. None of us know what these guys did for their teams. You can't look at their teams previous drafts because they weren't making the picks.

 
This is from the Chicago Tribune:

"Then in what one source described as McCaskeys quest to break the pattern, Pace emerged after an impressive interview that dazzled McCaskey and team president Ted Phillips."

See this is what worries me. You impressed two morons. What did you do? Maybe you tied ballon animals. Maybe you did shadow puppets to Queen's 'We are the Champions.' I would really like to hear Accorsi's assessment of this hiring. The one positive thing is we are hearing some positive feedback from some NFL front office people around the league. I don't trust George McCaskey or Ted Phillips even a tiny bit.

The coaching hire could tell us a lot about Pace as a GM.
Exactly. Phil Emery dazzled these two goofs remember.
I got the impression that George wasn't nearly as involved last time. Accorsi wasn't brought in either. I feel good about the change they're trying to make. The old "Bear Way" wasn't working. They changed it up.
 
Very disappointing to not see Hue Jackson and Rex Ryan on the interview list. Guys who've been successful for a long time in the league.

All these new coordinators are more crap shoots. Sick of that. I mean what do we really know about Todd Bowles?

 

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