**Official 2015 Off-Season Dynasty Completed Trades Thread** (1 Viewer)

[Pwingles]

12 team ppr

A gets: Keenan Allen + Markus Wheaton

B gets: Davante Adams + Charles Johnson + Da'Rick Rogers

A finished with pick 1.02 in 2014 and is building.

B finished with pick 1.10 in 2014 and was a contender all year

I think i like the allen side. He still had a zillion targets, he has wr1 upside.Not sure you can say the same about anyone else in this exchange.

Could be a pretty solid deal if cobb leaves and teddy targets johnson like he was at the end of last year tho

I think Adams absolutely has WR1 upside. He's looked pretty good lately and he could be taking over the role that Cobb just put WR1 numbers up in as soon as next year.

Idk if he has that talent or not, my point was, if cobb stays, not a great move. If he goes, has a chance to be a lot better.Adams isnt taking anything over due to talent. Its a money issue, imo. Can GB afford to keep cobb, or will Adams get a bump in responsibility by virtue of cobb being gone?

Either way, he has WR1 upside.

Well, im not sure what youre basing this off of (ARod at qb?) but, no, sorry, not either way.How on earth do you expect the 3rd wr in an offense to have WR1 upside? This is assuming cobb stays.

Who said Cobb is definitely staying? That's still up in the air.

This is silly. If Adams doesn't have WR1 upside then Jordy and Cobb didn't either. All three were drafted in the 2nd round for the Packers with two starters in front of them. Of course, Jordy and Cobb are both WR1's now, so it seems rather crazy to say that neither of them had WR1 upside.

I honestly don't see how this is even debatable. The entire reason that Adams is even rostered in fantasy football leagues is because of his WR1 upside.

Ive said multiple times i thought the success or lackbof hinged on cobb staying or leaving.Your second statement is whats silly. To say that two other players played into wr1 territory so a 3rd player obviously will too is hopefulness at best. I personally think you believe that any ARod WR = WR1, and while they certainly have a headstart on other WRs, its not a guarantee.

It's debatable because we disagree. It's debatable because you think that a wr3 has wr1 potential and would rather gamble on him either being a wr3 at least one more year, or him inherit a wr2 role, over a player that is easily the most targeted and talented on his team.

You would rather have a 22yo that might eventually get opps as opposed to a 22yo that is going into season 3 and is a lock to get opps.

This is the debate and we are on different sides of it.

Believe me, i see your point about Adams, but right now its all potential and nothing has been proven. People are down on Allen cuz he had a slow stretch and was drafted high. Adams doesnt have as many people to disappoint. So next year when he maybe goes 50/600/6 people will see it as a success.

 

[One More Rep]

Not involved, in a devy league I'm in, tiered PPR Superflex:

T.Y Hilton, Rookie 1.05 (Cooper, Gurley, Gordon, Mariota, Winston, Strong, Hundley all gone)

Amari Cooper, Stefon Diggs, Devy 1.01 (the rules are any player with 1 year of college can be devy'd, Chubb, Fournette, etc all available)

I don't do any devy leagues, or even any superflex dynasty leagues, but this one seems largely in favor of the team getting Cooper and the 1.01 Devy.

It almost seens just Cooper alone would be an even deal. Am I nuts?

Cooper by quite a bit

 

[Denver724]

12 team PPR. 1 RB start required.

Team A gave up:
Mason, Tre STL RB

Team B gave up:
Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick (1.10)

 

[Soulfly3]

12 team PPR. 1 RB start required.

Team A gave up:

Mason, Tre STL RB

Team B gave up:

Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick (1.10)

Tre. All day

 

[Dr. Octopus]

12 team PPR. 1 RB start required.

Team A gave up:

Mason, Tre STL RB

Team B gave up:

Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick (1.10)

It's odd that he would get drafted in that range, show success, and then be flipped for a pick in the same range.

 

[Soulfly3]

12 team PPR. 1 RB start required.

Team A gave up:

Mason, Tre STL RB

Team B gave up:

Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick (1.10)

It's odd that he would get drafted in that range, show success, and then be flipped for a pick in the same range.

I dont get it, either.

How many rookies RBs take a lead role and run w it? What are you expecting to get at 1.10 that surpasses that?

 

[Bamac]

12 team PPR. 1 RB start required.

Team A gave up:

Mason, Tre STL RB

Team B gave up:

Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick (1.10)

It's odd that he would get drafted in that range, show success, and then be flipped for a pick in the same range.

In a 1-RB mandatory league, I'd venture that he was drafted in the mid-2nd. Still ...

 

[humpback]

12 team PPR. 1 RB start required.

Team A gave up:

Mason, Tre STL RB

Team B gave up:

Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick (1.10)

It's odd that he would get drafted in that range, show success, and then be flipped for a pick in the same range.

I dont get it, either.

How many rookies RBs take a lead role and run w it? What are you expecting to get at 1.10 that surpasses that?

It is only a start 1 RB mandatory league, and ppr, so his value probably isn't as high as it would be in others.

 

[msudaisy26]

12 team PPR. 1 RB start required.

Team A gave up:

Mason, Tre STL RB

Team B gave up:

Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick (1.10)

It's odd that he would get drafted in that range, show success, and then be flipped for a pick in the same range.

I dont get it, either.

How many rookies RBs take a lead role and run w it? What are you expecting to get at 1.10 that surpasses that?

It is only a start 1 RB mandatory league, and ppr, so his value probably isn't as high as it would be in others.

While that does devalue Mason a little, he is still worth way more than 1.10 at this time. If he got cut in that league tomorrow and then the rookie draft was held I suspect he would go to 5 or 6

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Your second statement is whats silly. To say that two other players played into wr1 territory so a 3rd player obviously will too is hopefulness at best. I personally think you believe that any ARod WR = WR1, and while they certainly have a headstart on other WRs, its not a guarantee.

Again, who said anything about a guarantee? You said Adams doesn't have WR1 upside, not that he's not a guaranteed WR1. If you want to move the goalposts and make that your argument now, fine, but you can say that about pretty much every WR in the league.

It's debatable because we disagree. It's debatable because you think that a wr3 has wr1 potential and would rather gamble on him either being a wr3 at least one more year, or him inherit a wr2 role, over a player that is easily the most targeted and talented on his team.

You would rather have a 22yo that might eventually get opps as opposed to a 22yo that is going into season 3 and is a lock to get opps.

This is the debate and we are on different sides of it.

Do we disagree? Do you even know that I prefer Adams to Allen? I've never said as much. Go read through our discussion again. I jumped in only to point out that I vehemently disagree with your statement that Adams doesn't have WR1 upside. He has massive upside.

FWIW, I do probably prefer him to Allen, but that's never what we were discussing.

 

[Pwingles]

Your second statement is whats silly. To say that two other players played into wr1 territory so a 3rd player obviously will too is hopefulness at best. I personally think you believe that any ARod WR = WR1, and while they certainly have a headstart on other WRs, its not a guarantee.

Again, who said anything about a guarantee? You said Adams doesn't have WR1 upside, not that he's not a guaranteed WR1. If you want to move the goalposts and make that your argument now, fine, but you can say that about pretty much every WR in the league.

It's debatable because we disagree. It's debatable because you think that a wr3 has wr1 potential and would rather gamble on him either being a wr3 at least one more year, or him inherit a wr2 role, over a player that is easily the most targeted and talented on his team.

You would rather have a 22yo that might eventually get opps as opposed to a 22yo that is going into season 3 and is a lock to get opps.

This is the debate and we are on different sides of it.

Do we disagree? Do you even know that I prefer Adams to Allen? I've never said as much. Go read through our discussion again. I jumped in only to point out that I vehemently disagree with your statement that Adams doesn't have WR1 upside. He has massive upside.FWIW, I do probably prefer him to Allen, but that's never what we were discussing.

Aaaand this is what happens when you argue something you cant quantify.

We dont have to agree, nbd

 

[One More Rep]

12 team PPR. 1 RB start required.

Team A gave up:

Mason, Tre STL RB

Team B gave up:

Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick (1.10)

1.10 for me

 

[Denver724]

12 team PPR. 1 RB start required.

Team A gave up:

Mason, Tre STL RB

Team B gave up:

Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick (1.10)

It's odd that he would get drafted in that range, show success, and then be flipped for a pick in the same range.

In a 1-RB mandatory league, I'd venture that he was drafted in the mid-2nd. Still ...

Taken with pick 2.03.

 

[JonB86]

Not involved, in a devy league I'm in, tiered PPR Superflex:

T.Y Hilton, Rookie 1.05 (Cooper, Gurley, Gordon, Mariota, Winston, Strong, Hundley all gone)

Amari Cooper, Stefon Diggs, Devy 1.01 (the rules are any player with 1 year of college can be devy'd, Chubb, Fournette, etc all available)

I don't do any devy leagues, or even any superflex dynasty leagues, but this one seems largely in favor of the team getting Cooper and the 1.01 Devy.

It almost seens just Cooper alone would be an even deal. Am I nuts?

Yeah, I don't see why the other team would do this unless he's all-in for 2015. Hilton is good but I probably wouldn't give Cooper straight for him right now (at least wait until the draft). Diggs is intriguing too. the 1.05 seems equivalent to a high 2nd.

I agree with you guys that the Cooper side got a steal, basically take your pick of Chubb or Elliott with Cooper and Diggs for TY and 1.05 which is a late first at best this year with the devys gone! Side trading Cooper still has Tyler Boyd and Marquez North on his taxi squad!

 

[maxhyde]

Non PPR, Start 1-2-3-1-1flex, 1DL, 1LB, 1DB; 40 man rosters.

Not involved, just reporting. I have my thoughts; would like to hear other opinions.

TY Hilton

Doug Martin

Mike James

for

JJ Watt

Nick Toon

3.03

For reference, Watt scored 105.75 pts this season; #2 DL scored 63.25, #12 DL scored 45.5

Depth for a superstar. I would never pay that for a defensive player but fair. If that were Gronk or Dez instead of Watt it would be a steal

Not sure how big of a factor the offensive TD's were but if they continue using him on offense I think it is probably cheap for Watt

 

[maxhyde]

12 team PPR. 1 RB start required.

Team A gave up:

Mason, Tre STL RB

Team B gave up:

Year 2015 Round 1 Draft Pick (1.10)

pick for me

 

[maxhyde]

Not involved, in a devy league I'm in, tiered PPR Superflex:

T.Y Hilton, Rookie 1.05 (Cooper, Gurley, Gordon, Mariota, Winston, Strong, Hundley all gone)

Amari Cooper, Stefon Diggs, Devy 1.01 (the rules are any player with 1 year of college can be devy'd, Chubb, Fournette, etc all available)

I don't do any devy leagues, or even any superflex dynasty leagues, but this one seems largely in favor of the team getting Cooper and the 1.01 Devy.

It almost seens just Cooper alone would be an even deal. Am I nuts?

Yeah, I don't see why the other team would do this unless he's all-in for 2015. Hilton is good but I probably wouldn't give Cooper straight for him right now (at least wait until the draft). Diggs is intriguing too. the 1.05 seems equivalent to a high 2nd.

I agree with you guys that the Cooper side got a steal, basically take your pick of Chubb or Elliott with Cooper and Diggs for TY and 1.05 which is a late first at best this year with the devys gone! Side trading Cooper still has Tyler Boyd and Marquez North on his taxi squad!

I would take the Cooper side but more because I don't value Hilton as highly as some. Not sure I see the deal as a slam dunk or anything

I don't know that I like devy 1.01 by a mile over rookie 1.05. The top 5 rookies are rostered but 1.05 has an opportunity to increase the value over the year where devy 1.01 has X years before having an opportunity to increase in value.

If you trust your draft/scout process I think 1.05 has more immediate upside/value than devy 1.01 which helps your team value next offseason more. You may not get ever get the Gurley that way but you might end up with a bunch of Keenan Allen/Kelvin Benjamin/Brandin Cooks/OBJ's

 

[Evil G]

12 Team PPR SuperFlex QRRWWTKD + Flex + Super. TE Premium. 3 year contracts, no salary

Team A gives: Alshon

Team B gives: Evans

Team A had one year left with Alshon and had to make a move.

Team B had Evans on TAXI (contract exempt) and had no motive to make the move, save perhaps that he has Cutler and wanted to forge the tandem.

 

[Pastor]

Team 1 gave- Antonio Brown, Jordy Nelson, Aaron Rodgers, pick 1.8

Team 2 gave- 1.1, 1.2,1.3, 1.5,1.6, Mike Evans, Harvin, Kapernick, Abbredaris, and a 1st in 16 likely late.

1/2 ppr.

 

[Soulfly3]

Team 1 gave- Antonio Brown, Jordy Nelson, Aaron Rodgers, pick 1.8

Team 2 gave- 1.1, 1.2,1.3, 1.5,1.6, Mike Evans, Harvin, Kapernick, Abbredaris, and a 1st in 16 likely late.

1/2 ppr.

Team 1 was tired of winning and wanted to start from scratch?

 

[Evil G]

Team 1 gave- Antonio Brown, Jordy Nelson, Aaron Rodgers, pick 1.8

Team 2 gave- 1.1, 1.2,1.3, 1.5,1.6, Mike Evans, Harvin, Kapernick, Abbredaris, and a 1st in 16 likely late.

1/2 ppr.

In a word, wow.

It's so large in scope that I can't really fathom the ramifications.

If Team 1 only really had those four pieces to give, then it's a monster move to rebuild, and good for them for having such guts.

If Team 2 actually had a competitive team (hard to believe, I think) prior to the trade,then they just became a juggernaut.

 

[One More Rep]

Team 1 gave- Antonio Brown, Jordy Nelson, Aaron Rodgers, pick 1.8

Team 2 gave- 1.1, 1.2,1.3, 1.5,1.6, Mike Evans, Harvin, Kapernick, Abbredaris, and a 1st in 16 likely late.

1/2 ppr.

Looks like a good deal for both sides

 

[One More Rep]

12 Team PPR SuperFlex QRRWWTKD + Flex + Super. TE Premium. 3 year contracts, no salary

Team A gives: Alshon

Team B gives: Evans

Team A had one year left with Alshon and had to make a move.

Team B had Evans on TAXI (contract exempt) and had no motive to make the move, save perhaps that he has Cutler and wanted to forge the tandem.

I prefer Evans but even deal

 

[Soulfly3]

Team 1 gave- Antonio Brown, Jordy Nelson, Aaron Rodgers, pick 1.8

Team 2 gave- 1.1, 1.2,1.3, 1.5,1.6, Mike Evans, Harvin, Kapernick, Abbredaris, and a 1st in 16 likely late.

1/2 ppr.

Looks like a good deal for both sides

2 top 5 wrs and a top 3 qb for evans and a bunch of shots in the dark? I dunno man. Terrible looking to me.

 

[Evil G]

Team 1 gave- Antonio Brown, Jordy Nelson, Aaron Rodgers, pick 1.8

Team 2 gave- 1.1, 1.2,1.3, 1.5,1.6, Mike Evans, Harvin, Kapernick, Abbredaris, and a 1st in 16 likely late.

1/2 ppr.

Looks like a good deal for both sides

2 top 5 wrs and a top 3 qb for evans and a bunch of shots in the dark?I dunno man. Terrible looking to me.

Quite frankly I think the trade is too big to assume that there is not something we don't know about their roster composition, or position within the League.

In one league, my young/rebuilding squad has the 1.1, 1.2, 1.3 and 1.4 this year come, and I feel VERY confident about my long term chances. Admittedly, I didn't give up players of that calibre to get those picks...but the allure of Gordon and Gurley has people moving already, it's clear.

 

[ghostguy123]

Team 1 gave- Antonio Brown, Jordy Nelson, Aaron Rodgers, pick 1.8

Team 2 gave- 1.1, 1.2,1.3, 1.5,1.6, Mike Evans, Harvin, Kapernick, Abbredaris, and a 1st in 16 likely late.

1/2 ppr.

I think this is an EXCELLENT trade for team 1. It hurts for a year. Helps for a long long long time.

At this time next year Evans is likely to be worth more than Nelson and pick 8 combined. Rodgers is awesome, but grabbing a good QB is very doable at reasonable prices in anything but a 2 QB league or superflex league.

Brown is awesome, but I would consider taking that trade for EVans and all the picks no matter what the makeup of my team was.

PLus, nobody ever said you HAVE to use all those picks. They are very tradeable. PLus this is 1/2 PPR, makes RB more valuable, and two good ones at the top.

The startup value in this is heavy in favor of the side getting EVans and the picks.

I mean, I don't know all the league specifics, but the value is in favor of the picks. But like I said, it hurtrs for 2015. Gotta love dynasty.

I was happy to piss away a year for value a couple years ago, and now my team is loaded. Same thing happening here.

Where's Ernol, I bet he would LOVE this deal getting the picks.

 

[ghostguy123]

Team 1 gave- Antonio Brown, Jordy Nelson, Aaron Rodgers, pick 1.8

Team 2 gave- 1.1, 1.2,1.3, 1.5,1.6, Mike Evans, Harvin, Kapernick, Abbredaris, and a 1st in 16 likely late.

1/2 ppr.

Looks like a good deal for both sides

2 top 5 wrs and a top 3 qb for evans and a bunch of shots in the dark?I dunno man. Terrible looking to me.

Terrible??? Or terrible for 2015?

 

[ghostguy123]

Pastor, give us the league specifics on that big one

 

[Pastor]

Pastor, give us the league specifics on that big one

Both teams use the dynasty league to trade like crazy. That is part of the deal. But the team that traded away Rodgers, Brown, etc was loaded but wanted to get super strong in coming years. The other team at one point had all 12 first round picks this year because they tanked 2 years ago and started to accumulate those picks. They want to win now. It is a 12 team keep 19 dynasty league. Start 1- Qb, 2Rb, 2 Wr, 1 Te, 2 flex, 1 k, 1 d. Here is the link- http://www7.myfantasyleague.com/2014/home/27558#0

 

[Tibereas]

Julio and B Butler for Cobb and K Benjamin.

 

[One More Rep]

Julio and B Butler for Cobb and K Benjamin.

Julio

 

[Soulfly3]

Pastor, give us the league specifics on that big one

Both teams use the dynasty league to trade like crazy. That is part of the deal. But the team that traded away Rodgers, Brown, etc was loaded but wanted to get super strong in coming years. The other team at one point had all 12 first round picks this year because they tanked 2 years ago and started to accumulate those picks. They want to win now. It is a 12 team keep 19 dynasty league. Start 1- Qb, 2Rb, 2 Wr, 1 Te, 2 flex, 1 k, 1 d. Here is the link- http://www7.myfantasyleague.com/2014/home/27558#0

Ive had a bit to drink, but unless Im super smashed, these players all belong to different teams

 

[Pastor]

Pastor, give us the league specifics on that big one

Both teams use the dynasty league to trade like crazy. That is part of the deal. But the team that traded away Rodgers, Brown, etc was loaded but wanted to get super strong in coming years. The other team at one point had all 12 first round picks this year because they tanked 2 years ago and started to accumulate those picks. They want to win now. It is a 12 team keep 19 dynasty league. Start 1- Qb, 2Rb, 2 Wr, 1 Te, 2 flex, 1 k, 1 d. Here is the link- http://www7.myfantasyleague.com/2014/home/27558#0

Ive had a bit to drink, but unless Im super smashed, these players all belong to different teams

It was between 4 horsemen and chaidog. 4 horsemen have stud Wrs now and Chaidog looks great for 16.

 

[Soulfly3]

Pastor, give us the league specifics on that big one

Both teams use the dynasty league to trade like crazy. That is part of the deal. But the team that traded away Rodgers, Brown, etc was loaded but wanted to get super strong in coming years. The other team at one point had all 12 first round picks this year because they tanked 2 years ago and started to accumulate those picks. They want to win now. It is a 12 team keep 19 dynasty league. Start 1- Qb, 2Rb, 2 Wr, 1 Te, 2 flex, 1 k, 1 d. Here is the link- http://www7.myfantasyleague.com/2014/home/27558#0

Ive had a bit to drink, but unless Im super smashed, these players all belong to different teams

It was between 4 horsemen and chaidog. 4 horsemen have stud Wrs now and Chaidog looks great for 16.

jesus.

4 horsemen winning this league for the next 3yrs

 

[Pastor]

Pastor, give us the league specifics on that big one

Both teams use the dynasty league to trade like crazy. That is part of the deal. But the team that traded away Rodgers, Brown, etc was loaded but wanted to get super strong in coming years. The other team at one point had all 12 first round picks this year because they tanked 2 years ago and started to accumulate those picks. They want to win now. It is a 12 team keep 19 dynasty league. Start 1- Qb, 2Rb, 2 Wr, 1 Te, 2 flex, 1 k, 1 d. Here is the link- http://www7.myfantasyleague.com/2014/home/27558#0

Ive had a bit to drink, but unless Im super smashed, these players all belong to different teams

It was between 4 horsemen and chaidog. 4 horsemen have stud Wrs now and Chaidog looks great for 16.

jesus.

4 horsemen winning this league for the next 3yrs

2 years ago that team set the record for fewest points scored. A long term rebuild plan that so far looks effective.

 

[ghostguy123]

2 years ago that team set the record for fewest points scored. A long term rebuild plan that so far looks effective.

I am a HUGE fan of the major rebuilds when you don't feel your team is good enough to win the title.

They aren't for everyone though, clearly. Some people just can't stomach pissing away a season.

 

[Pastor]

2 years ago that team set the record for fewest points scored. A long term rebuild plan that so far looks effective.

I am a HUGE fan of the major rebuilds when you don't feel your team is good enough to win the title.

They aren't for everyone though, clearly. Some people just can't stomach pissing away a season.

Actually the horsemen had a top 3 team 3 years ago. Then traded the whole team for the worst team in the league just to see if he could rebuild it. Complete team and asset swaps. Every player that started scoring points got traded for draft picks 2 years ago.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

Like others, I have trouble even wrapping my head around that trade. Might be the craziest I've seen. I think the best way to do it may be to go back and look at what those picks would have netted in prior years via rookie draft ADP.

2014: Watkins, Evans, Matthews, Cooks, Beckham

2013: Austin, Bernard, Bell, Lacy, Hopkins

2012: Richardson, Luck, Martin, Blackmon, Wilson

2011: Ingram, Green, Julio, Newton, R Williams

2010: Mathews, Dez, Best, Tate, Demaryius

2009: Moreno, Wells, Crabtree, McCoy, Maclin

There's some pretty decent hauls in there, especially when you add Evans, Harvin, Kaep, and a 2016 1st on top of it. Literally every year would have netted you at least one player currently in the dynasty top 10. 2012 looks to be the biggest bust but even that would have netted Luck, and Richardson/Martin/Wilson once carried tremendous value if the person flipped them at that point.

It's a big risk no doubt, but when you factor in that this year's draft is supposed to be a pretty good one on top of that it could end up working out very well for them.

 

[ghostguy123]

2 years ago that team set the record for fewest points scored. A long term rebuild plan that so far looks effective.

I am a HUGE fan of the major rebuilds when you don't feel your team is good enough to win the title.

They aren't for everyone though, clearly. Some people just can't stomach pissing away a season.

Actually the horsemen had a top 3 team 3 years ago. Then traded the whole team for the worst team in the league just to see if he could rebuild it. Complete team and asset swaps. Every player that started scoring points got traded for draft picks 2 years ago.

I just did this in a lower stakes league last year. It's going into year 5 now. I was a top 2 team for the first three years. In year 4 my season was going so-so, but I knew with age and not having that great of a team that trying to win that year would have been horribly detrimental to my team in the future. So I traded EVERYONE who had any current value. I mean everyone. I even traded my 2014 picks for better 2015 value. My team was royal poo this year and I was by far dead last, but I have a ton of 1sts this year, something like 1,2,4,6,8,9 plus some 2nds, plus some 2016 1sts. I ended up making some trades early on and some waiver moves and have some players like Hyde, CJ Anderson, Jeremy Hill, Jonathan Stewart, Josh Gordon, and a bunch of guys on my taxi squad like Keenan Allen, Justin Hunter, Ertz, Dwayne Allen, Travis Kelce, Ladarius Green, and other so so fliers like Blackmon, Charles JOhnson. Kendal Wright, Marquis Lee, Charles Sims, Alfred Blue, Allen Robinson......

Those players along withg my picks, and any deals I make, should put me right back in contention soon, assuming I don't blow all my picks and make bad deals.

Had I stuck with trying to win in 2013, I would have been screwed. I traded some guys who lost some major value that year, like Rice, Welker, Decker, among others. So I would have probably been the 6th seed and bounced out of the playoffs right away, plus sucked badly for several years after that. Nah, that aint for me. I knew it was mega rebuild time.

 

[ghostguy123]

It's a big risk no doubt, but when you factor in that this year's draft is supposed to be a pretty good one on top of that it could end up working out very well for them.

I think the only risk really is losing in 2015.

Take out pick 8 one the one side, and the 2016 1st and players like Harvin and Kap on the other side.

Brown, Nelson, Rodgers

for

picks 1,2,3,5,6 and Evans.

I can see taking EVans straight up over Nelson.

So that leaves 1,2,3,5,6 for Brown and Rodgers. In a one QB league Rodgers is probably on par with one of those top 3 picks, say pick 2. Hell, say pick 1.

Brown for 2,3,5,6.

This is also assuming Harvin sucks, which he might not. He obviousy can score if healthy, with any QB. Big if, but the potential is there.

It's bad for 2015, thats it. If we plot these players and picks in startups, the value will be obviously in favor of the picks and EVans side.

 

[ILUVBEER99]

It's a big risk no doubt, but when you factor in that this year's draft is supposed to be a pretty good one on top of that it could end up working out very well for them.

I think the only risk really is losing in 2015.

Take out pick 8 one the one side, and the 2016 1st and players like Harvin and Kap on the other side.

Brown, Nelson, Rodgers

for

picks 1,2,3,5,6 and Evans.

I can see taking EVans straight up over Nelson.

So that leaves 1,2,3,5,6 for Brown and Rodgers. In a one QB league Rodgers is probably on par with one of those top 3 picks, say pick 2. Hell, say pick 1.

Brown for 2,3,5,6.

This is also assuming Harvin sucks, which he might not. He obviousy can score if healthy, with any QB. Big if, but the potential is there.

It's bad for 2015, thats it. If we plot these players and picks in startups, the value will be obviously in favor of the picks and EVans side.

yup, i like the side that got all those picks by quite a bit. i prefer Evans straight up over Jordy and those picks are going to end up hitting some superstars, especially this year with 2 super stud RB prospects.

 

[FreeBaGeL]

It's a big risk no doubt, but when you factor in that this year's draft is supposed to be a pretty good one on top of that it could end up working out very well for them.

I think the only risk really is losing in 2015.

Take out pick 8 one the one side, and the 2016 1st and players like Harvin and Kap on the other side.

Brown, Nelson, Rodgers

for

picks 1,2,3,5,6 and Evans.

I can see taking EVans straight up over Nelson.

So that leaves 1,2,3,5,6 for Brown and Rodgers. In a one QB league Rodgers is probably on par with one of those top 3 picks, say pick 2. Hell, say pick 1.

Brown for 2,3,5,6.

This is also assuming Harvin sucks, which he might not. He obviousy can score if healthy, with any QB. Big if, but the potential is there.

It's bad for 2015, thats it. If we plot these players and picks in startups, the value will be obviously in favor of the picks and EVans side.

I agree that I like the side getting the picks, and that it will likely work out for them in the long run. I wouldn't say the only risk is for this year though. What if this year's draft class ends up being as big of a bust as 2012 (which btw, was probably the most anticipated fantasy draft class of the bunch)? Assuming they didn't unload any of those guys at their peak value it'd be...

Brown and Rodgers for Luck, Richardson, Martin, Blackmon, and Wilson.

 

[ghostguy123]

I agree that I like the side getting the picks, and that it will likely work out for them in the long run. I wouldn't say the only risk is for this year though. What if this year's draft class ends up being as big of a bust as 2012 (which btw, was probably the most anticipated fantasy draft class of the bunch)? Assuming they didn't unload any of those guys at their peak value it'd be...

Brown and Rodgers for Luck, Richardson, Martin, Blackmon, and Wilson.

What if Nelson tears his ACL. What if Brown holds out and gets traded, or Rothlisberger gets hurt, or Brown himself gets hurt?

It's not like high end guys haven't completely fallen off the map in the past.

If he really wanted to, he could probably take picks 5 and 6 and turn that into a nice young player, draft with 1,2,3, use EVans, pick up an old QB like Manning semi-cheap, and continue to compete this year.

With that much value on your side in a trade, it opens up all kinds of options for you.

Remember, the risk goes both ways. There is risk when you reject a trade, also.

 

[Snorkelson]

It looks like that guy shipped Rodgers but I can't tell who he got. Fair deal imo, you're giving up studs that have a few solid years left for draft picks that may bust, but you have a lot of darts there. And if you have a bunch of picks and want to be a top team for the next 3 years then more power to you. The way this guy seems to deal he could use those guys for 2 yaers and then ship them off for picks again....

On the Mason for 1.10-

I could see one side worried that he'll be the next Stacy and disappear next year, new OC, etc. I think he'll be the poor mans LeVeon Bell, was hard to keep on the bench towards the end of the year (his rookie yr) because of his steady production, and will take a step forward next year. He was consistent the 2nd half of the season, and more involved in the passing game towards the end. I'd take him and expect 70-110 total yds a game with some TDs sprinkeled in and working mainly by himself, maybe loses some 3rd downs.

 

[FUBAR]

Julio and B Butler for Cobb and K Benjamin.

Julio

Average league probably Julio, larger lineup and I'd take Cobb/KB.

 

[Rolling_akg]

Ppr 25 deep roster qb/2rb/3wr/the/flex

Teddy Bridgewater for Larry fitz

Same but 28 roster deep

Cj Anderson for d Adams and johnny foosball

 

[humpback]

I agree that I like the side getting the picks, and that it will likely work out for them in the long run. I wouldn't say the only risk is for this year though. What if this year's draft class ends up being as big of a bust as 2012 (which btw, was probably the most anticipated fantasy draft class of the bunch)? Assuming they didn't unload any of those guys at their peak value it'd be...

Brown and Rodgers for Luck, Richardson, Martin, Blackmon, and Wilson.

What if Nelson tears his ACL. What if Brown holds out and gets traded, or Rothlisberger gets hurt, or Brown himself gets hurt?

It's not like high end guys haven't completely fallen off the map in the past.

If he really wanted to, he could probably take picks 5 and 6 and turn that into a nice young player, draft with 1,2,3, use EVans, pick up an old QB like Manning semi-cheap, and continue to compete this year.

With that much value on your side in a trade, it opens up all kinds of options for you.

Remember, the risk goes both ways. There is risk when you reject a trade, also.

I'm pretty sure that he knows the risk goes both ways, he's just saying that the risk goes beyond next year.

 

[JonB86]

Small one in a devy league:

Gave: 3.06 (knock it down 10 spots for rostered Devys)

Received: Ka'Deem Carey

Note: I own Forte

 

[msudaisy26]

Small one in a devy league:

Gave: 3.06 (knock it down 10 spots for rostered Devys)

Received: Ka'Deem Carey

Note: I own Forte

So you stole him?

 

[msudaisy26]

Ppr 25 deep roster qb/2rb/3wr/the/flex

Teddy Bridgewater for Larry fitz

Same but 28 roster deep

Cj Anderson for d Adams and johnny foosball

Fitz in a start 1 qb 12 team league.

It is close and would depend on the rosters, but I think I take Anderson.