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CalvinDevilDog919 said:PPR 12-team
Traded: Calvin Johnson
2.04
Received: Michael Floyd
Pierre Garcon
1.04
CalvinDevilDog919 said:PPR 12-team
Traded: Calvin Johnson
2.04
Received: Michael Floyd
Pierre Garcon
1.04
Cheap for CharlesA gave up:
Charles, Jamaal KCC RB
Woodyard, Wesley TEN LB
Year 2015 Draft Pick 3.04
B gave up:
Mauga, Josh KCC LB
Robertson, Craig CLE LB
Year 2016 Round 1 Draft Pick from Pat
Year 2016 Round 2 Draft Pick from Pat
Gotta believe Calvin is worth much moreCalvinDevilDog919 said:PPR 12-team
Traded: Calvin Johnson
2.04
Received: Michael Floyd
Pierre Garcon
1.04
This trade was reversed as Team B accidentally clicked accept instead of counter. I was Team A, and I suppose after thinking through it, I could have received more for Charles (maybe?). Didn't want to be a jerk to the other guy since he obviously accepted on accident, emailed about 30 seconds after to ask for reversal.Cheap for CharlesA gave up:
Charles, Jamaal KCC RB
Woodyard, Wesley TEN LB
Year 2015 Draft Pick 3.04
B gave up:
Mauga, Josh KCC LB
Robertson, Craig CLE LB
Year 2016 Round 1 Draft Pick from Pat
Year 2016 Round 2 Draft Pick from Pat
Gotta believe Calvin is worth much moreCalvinDevilDog919 said:PPR 12-team
Traded: Calvin Johnson
2.04
Received: Michael Floyd
Pierre Garcon
1.04
Even I would pay that for Kaep16t PPR - QRWWWTFF
Team A: Gives Foles, 2015 Rookie Pick 5.04
Team B: Gives Kaepernick
Shocked people value Kaep above Foles, even with Foles being injured last year.Even I would pay that for Kaep16t PPR - QRWWWTFF
Team A: Gives Foles, 2015 Rookie Pick 5.04
Team B: Gives Kaepernick
I gave up Foles and the 5th rounder for Kaep. I have Kaep at #15 and Foles at #21 so it was kind of a "meh" move. There is some homerism since I'm a Niners fan, but I have worries with both QB's. STL could easily draft a QB to replace Foles if he struggles in a non-Chip offense. Kaep has me nervous because he really was not very good last year and I think he is mentally inadequate for an NFL QB. The upside is still there, though.Shocked people value Kaep above Foles, even with Foles being injured last year.Even I would pay that for Kaep16t PPR - QRWWWTFF
Team A: Gives Foles, 2015 Rookie Pick 5.04
Team B: Gives Kaepernick
If Calvin roughly equals 1.1 which some believe he does, than Floyd, Garcon and 1.4 for Calvin/2.4 is roughly that.Seriously. I'd like to hear that owner's rationale for making this trade.
Gotta believe Calvin is worth much moreCalvinDevilDog919 said:PPR 12-team
Traded: Calvin Johnson
2.04
Received: Michael Floyd
Pierre Garcon
1.04
Unless that pick is a lock top 3, you got lucky that he agreed to veto it.This trade was reversed as Team B accidentally clicked accept instead of counter. I was Team A, and I suppose after thinking through it, I could have received more for Charles (maybe?). Didn't want to be a jerk to the other guy since he obviously accepted on accident, emailed about 30 seconds after to ask for reversal.Cheap for CharlesA gave up:
Charles, Jamaal KCC RB
Woodyard, Wesley TEN LB
Year 2015 Draft Pick 3.04
B gave up:
Mauga, Josh KCC LB
Robertson, Craig CLE LB
Year 2016 Round 1 Draft Pick from Pat
Year 2016 Round 2 Draft Pick from Pat
Yea i believe in kaep. Really like the torrey smith signing, and im excited to see him run more.I gave up Foles and the 5th rounder for Kaep. I have Kaep at #15 and Foles at #21 so it was kind of a "meh" move. There is some homerism since I'm a Niners fan, but I have worries with both QB's. STL could easily draft a QB to replace Foles if he struggles in a non-Chip offense. Kaep has me nervous because he really was not very good last year and I think he is mentally inadequate for an NFL QB. The upside is still there, though.Shocked people value Kaep above Foles, even with Foles being injured last year.Even I would pay that for Kaep16t PPR - QRWWWTFF
Team A: Gives Foles, 2015 Rookie Pick 5.04
Team B: Gives Kaepernick
Yes!A gave up:
Bernard, Giovani CIN RB
Hill, Jeremy CIN RB
Stills, Kenny MIA WR
Carlson, John ARI TE
Pierre-Paul, Jason NYG DE
Ward, T.J. DEN S
B gave up:
Cassel, Matt BUF QB
Mason, Tre STL RB
Thomas, Pierre FA* RB
Brown, Marlon BAL WR
Gresham, Jermaine FA TE
Graham, Brandon PHI LB
Joyner, Lamarcus STL S
Lewis, Kendrick BAL S
Year 2016 Round 3
Year 2016 Round 7
Is this as ugly as I think it is?
Foles has already showed he can play well in a non-Chip offense.I gave up Foles and the 5th rounder for Kaep. I have Kaep at #15 and Foles at #21 so it was kind of a "meh" move. There is some homerism since I'm a Niners fan, but I have worries with both QB's. STL could easily draft a QB to replace Foles if he struggles in a non-Chip offense. Kaep has me nervous because he really was not very good last year and I think he is mentally inadequate for an NFL QB. The upside is still there, though.Shocked people value Kaep above Foles, even with Foles being injured last year.Even I would pay that for Kaep16t PPR - QRWWWTFF
Team A: Gives Foles, 2015 Rookie Pick 5.04
Team B: Gives Kaepernick
I'm the one who traded Calvin. My reasoning was my team needed depth and I had to trade a stud to do that. I also got younger in the deal. The days of Calvin pulling in a major haul are gone, his age is the reason his value is slipping. I feel I got a decent package for him though.If Calvin roughly equals 1.1 which some believe he does, than Floyd, Garcon and 1.4 for Calvin/2.4 is roughly that.Seriously. I'd like to hear that owner's rationale for making this trade.
Gotta believe Calvin is worth much moreCalvinDevilDog919 said:PPR 12-team
Traded: Calvin Johnson
2.04
Received: Michael Floyd
Pierre Garcon
1.04
Run more? Hasn't he been working with Warner in the offseason with emphasis on pocket presence?Yea i believe in kaep. Really like the torrey smith signing, and im excited to see him run more.I gave up Foles and the 5th rounder for Kaep. I have Kaep at #15 and Foles at #21 so it was kind of a "meh" move. There is some homerism since I'm a Niners fan, but I have worries with both QB's. STL could easily draft a QB to replace Foles if he struggles in a non-Chip offense. Kaep has me nervous because he really was not very good last year and I think he is mentally inadequate for an NFL QB. The upside is still there, though.Shocked people value Kaep above Foles, even with Foles being injured last year.Even I would pay that for Kaep16t PPR - QRWWWTFF
Team A: Gives Foles, 2015 Rookie Pick 5.04
Team B: Gives Kaepernick
The coaching staff has been saying they'll use his legs more. I assume that means more designed runs.Run more? Hasn't he been working with Warner in the offseason with emphasis on pocket presence?Yea i believe in kaep. Really like the torrey smith signing, and im excited to see him run more.I gave up Foles and the 5th rounder for Kaep. I have Kaep at #15 and Foles at #21 so it was kind of a "meh" move. There is some homerism since I'm a Niners fan, but I have worries with both QB's. STL could easily draft a QB to replace Foles if he struggles in a non-Chip offense. Kaep has me nervous because he really was not very good last year and I think he is mentally inadequate for an NFL QB. The upside is still there, though.Shocked people value Kaep above Foles, even with Foles being injured last year.Even I would pay that for Kaep16t PPR - QRWWWTFF
Team A: Gives Foles, 2015 Rookie Pick 5.04
Team B: Gives Kaepernick
Oof. Gio/Hill and JPP is a top 5 DE. for...?? What? Mason?A gave up:
Bernard, Giovani CIN RB
Hill, Jeremy CIN RB
Stills, Kenny MIA WR
Carlson, John ARI TE
Pierre-Paul, Jason NYG DE
Ward, T.J. DEN S
B gave up:
Cassel, Matt BUF QB
Mason, Tre STL RB
Thomas, Pierre FA* RB
Brown, Marlon BAL WR
Gresham, Jermaine FA TE
Graham, Brandon PHI LB
Joyner, Lamarcus STL S
Lewis, Kendrick BAL S
Year 2016 Round 3
Year 2016 Round 7
Is this as ugly as I think it is?
In a rebuild if that's best you could do, can't fault you. Not sure Garçon does much.I'm the one who traded Calvin. My reasoning was my team needed depth and I had to trade a stud to do that. I also got younger in the deal. The days of Calvin pulling in a major haul are gone, his age is the reason his value is slipping. I feel I got a decent package for him though.If Calvin roughly equals 1.1 which some believe he does, than Floyd, Garcon and 1.4 for Calvin/2.4 is roughly that.Seriously. I'd like to hear that owner's rationale for making this trade.
Gotta believe Calvin is worth much moreCalvinDevilDog919 said:PPR 12-team
Traded: Calvin Johnson
2.04
Received: Michael Floyd
Pierre Garcon
1.04
Technically HE made the mistake and accepted trade, but yes I agree in retrospect. This league is tough because no one seems to have any interest in Charles at all. It's just bizarre. He countered with Charles, Jordan Matthews, and 3rd rounder for those LBs and picks. Had to scratch my head.Unless that pick is a lock top 3, you got lucky that he agreed to veto it.This trade was reversed as Team B accidentally clicked accept instead of counter. I was Team A, and I suppose after thinking through it, I could have received more for Charles (maybe?). Didn't want to be a jerk to the other guy since he obviously accepted on accident, emailed about 30 seconds after to ask for reversal.Cheap for CharlesA gave up:
Charles, Jamaal KCC RB
Woodyard, Wesley TEN LB
Year 2015 Draft Pick 3.04
B gave up:
Mauga, Josh KCC LB
Robertson, Craig CLE LB
Year 2016 Round 1 Draft Pick from Pat
Year 2016 Round 2 Draft Pick from Pat
Not a rebuild, just building depth. Garcon, Floyd, and 1.04 gives me startable depth. Garcon was just depth, hopefully don't ever have to start him but won't be upset if I have to. Floyd is a young guy with upside, same with 1.04. Lets just place any of the players from last year's draft and place them in for 1.04.In a rebuild if that's best you could do, can't fault you. Not sure Garçon does much.I'm the one who traded Calvin. My reasoning was my team needed depth and I had to trade a stud to do that. I also got younger in the deal. The days of Calvin pulling in a major haul are gone, his age is the reason his value is slipping. I feel I got a decent package for him though.If Calvin roughly equals 1.1 which some believe he does, than Floyd, Garcon and 1.4 for Calvin/2.4 is roughly that.Seriously. I'd like to hear that owner's rationale for making this trade.
Gotta believe Calvin is worth much moreCalvinDevilDog919 said:PPR 12-team
Traded: Calvin Johnson
2.04
Received: Michael Floyd
Pierre Garcon
1.04
People are getting out of hand with this age thing. Steve smith is pretty old T.O played until like 37. Calvin has another 5 years of top performing . Not sure how anyone looks further down the road than 5 years.
I would say "we'll see". Adams probably cost about that last year and we wont know what his career was really worth until he gets a bigger role. Could come within a year or two. Never bad to cash put tho if you think itll never come10 team PPR
1.06 for devante adams
robbery, imo... tho the guy getting adams wanted to pair him w rodgers and cobb.
Adams for me10 team PPR
1.06 for devante adams
robbery, imo... tho the guy getting adams wanted to pair him w rodgers and cobb.
just checked... he went 2.01 in our draft last year (11th pick)I would say "we'll see". Adams probably cost about that last year and we wont know what his career was really worth until he gets a bigger role. Could come within a year or two. Never bad to cash put tho if you think itll never come10 team PPR
1.06 for devante adams
robbery, imo... tho the guy getting adams wanted to pair him w rodgers and cobb.
Adams typically went later than that (his ADP was 13th overall). If anything his value should have decreased since then since a hefty part of his value at the time was the notion that Cobb was in the last year of his deal and might not be re-signed.I would say "we'll see". Adams probably cost about that last year and we wont know what his career was really worth until he gets a bigger role. Could come within a year or two. Never bad to cash put tho if you think itll never come10 team PPR
1.06 for devante adams
robbery, imo... tho the guy getting adams wanted to pair him w rodgers and cobb.
Yea I mean at least in the short term it probably pays off depending on the selection.just checked... he went 2.01 in our draft last year (11th pick)I would say "we'll see". Adams probably cost about that last year and we wont know what his career was really worth until he gets a bigger role. Could come within a year or two. Never bad to cash put tho if you think itll never come10 team PPR
1.06 for devante adams
robbery, imo... tho the guy getting adams wanted to pair him w rodgers and cobb.
but I see your point... THo id take the 1.06 all day
Hard to believe but that is sort of the price he is returning right now in many of the deals I am seeing.Gotta believe Calvin is worth much moreCalvinDevilDog919 said:PPR 12-team
Traded: Calvin Johnson
2.04
Received: Michael Floyd
Pierre Garcon
1.04
I hate Kaep. I have never had him ranked as a top 10QB and unlikley I ever will. I think he is a terrible QB but he is a great athlete and has upside. He is the boom/bust type guy that can play well in stretches and could be a major factor in winning games but less than reliable at a position I would value stability more than most.Yea i believe in kaep. Really like the torrey smith signing, and im excited to see him run more.I gave up Foles and the 5th rounder for Kaep. I have Kaep at #15 and Foles at #21 so it was kind of a "meh" move. There is some homerism since I'm a Niners fan, but I have worries with both QB's. STL could easily draft a QB to replace Foles if he struggles in a non-Chip offense. Kaep has me nervous because he really was not very good last year and I think he is mentally inadequate for an NFL QB. The upside is still there, though.Shocked people value Kaep above Foles, even with Foles being injured last year.Even I would pay that for Kaep16t PPR - QRWWWTFF
Team A: Gives Foles, 2015 Rookie Pick 5.04
Team B: Gives Kaepernick
ARob easily for me14team PPR QRWWWTFF
TEAM A gave up:
Freeman, Devonta ATL RB
Kearse, Jermaine SEA WR
LaFell, Brandon NEP WR
Year 2015 Draft Pick 3.04
Year 2015 Draft Pick 7.04
TEAM B gave up:
Robinson, Allen JAC WR
Team A had surplus of RB's and Team B needed RB upgrade.
I like Adams but I would rather pay 1.06 for another player.1.6 is the lowest I'd take for Adams since I see a big dropoff there (not interested in the RB's after Gurley/Gordon).
With the 1.6 you're looking at a player comparable to Adams who will play sooner.
I was hoping to get some value out of Freeman prior to draft. I like Freeman but he would plummet if (when) they draft another RB. The WR's are bye-week fillers and ultimately I wanted to improve my starting lineup.ARob easily for me14team PPR QRWWWTFF
TEAM A gave up:
Freeman, Devonta ATL RB
Kearse, Jermaine SEA WR
LaFell, Brandon NEP WR
Year 2015 Draft Pick 3.04
Year 2015 Draft Pick 7.04
TEAM B gave up:
Robinson, Allen JAC WR
Team A had surplus of RB's and Team B needed RB upgrade.
I like Adams but I would rather pay 1.06 for another player.1.6 is the lowest I'd take for Adams since I see a big dropoff there (not interested in the RB's after Gurley/Gordon).
With the 1.6 you're looking at a player comparable to Adams who will play sooner.
I'd keep the pick
Solid moveI was hoping to get some value out of Freeman prior to draft. I like Freeman but he would plummet if (when) they draft another RB. The WR's are bye-week fillers and ultimately I wanted to improve my starting lineup.
Fair enough. Guess I should be making offers for Calvin.I'm the one who traded Calvin. My reasoning was my team needed depth and I had to trade a stud to do that. I also got younger in the deal. The days of Calvin pulling in a major haul are gone, his age is the reason his value is slipping. I feel I got a decent package for him though.If Calvin roughly equals 1.1 which some believe he does, than Floyd, Garcon and 1.4 for Calvin/2.4 is roughly that.Seriously. I'd like to hear that owner's rationale for making this trade.
Gotta believe Calvin is worth much moreCalvinDevilDog919 said:PPR 12-team
Traded: Calvin Johnson
2.04
Received: Michael Floyd
Pierre Garcon
1.04
Robinson14team PPR QRWWWTFF
TEAM A gave up:
Freeman, Devonta ATL RB
Kearse, Jermaine SEA WR
LaFell, Brandon NEP WR
Year 2015 Draft Pick 3.04
Year 2015 Draft Pick 7.04
TEAM B gave up:
Robinson, Allen JAC WR
Team A had surplus of RB's and Team B needed RB upgrade.
1.3Team A traded Maclin, Kelce, Washington LB Keenan Robinson, and rookie picks 36, 42 and 46 (all players were backups and had similar bye weeks to starters)
Team B traded the #3 rookie pick
playersTeam A traded Maclin, Kelce, Washington LB Keenan Robinson, and rookie picks 36, 42 and 46 (all players were backups and had similar bye weeks to starters)
Team B traded the #3 rookie pick
freemanRobinson14team PPR QRWWWTFF
TEAM A gave up:
Freeman, Devonta ATL RB
Kearse, Jermaine SEA WR
LaFell, Brandon NEP WR
Year 2015 Draft Pick 3.04
Year 2015 Draft Pick 7.04
TEAM B gave up:
Robinson, Allen JAC WR
Team A had surplus of RB's and Team B needed RB upgrade.
maclin and kelce.1.3Team A traded Maclin, Kelce, Washington LB Keenan Robinson, and rookie picks 36, 42 and 46 (all players were backups and had similar bye weeks to starters)
Team B traded the #3 rookie pick
freemanfreemanRobinson14team PPR QRWWWTFF
TEAM A gave up:
Freeman, Devonta ATL RB
Kearse, Jermaine SEA WR
LaFell, Brandon NEP WR
Year 2015 Draft Pick 3.04
Year 2015 Draft Pick 7.04
TEAM B gave up:
Robinson, Allen JAC WR
Team A had surplus of RB's and Team B needed RB upgrade.
calvinHard to believe but that is sort of the price he is returning right now in many of the deals I am seeing.Gotta believe Calvin is worth much moreCalvinDevilDog919 said:PPR 12-team
Traded: Calvin Johnson
2.04
Received: Michael Floyd
Pierre Garcon
1.04
Garcon=2.04
Calvin >= 1.04/Floyd
However I really like Floyd so I might actually make the deal.
Tempting as it is I'd have to take the Eifert side.PPR, TE Premium (1/1.5)
Eifert + 1.04 + 1.06
for
Gronk
You really should, he's being pretty undervalued right now!Fair enough. Guess I should be making offers for Calvin.I'm the one who traded Calvin. My reasoning was my team needed depth and I had to trade a stud to do that. I also got younger in the deal. The days of Calvin pulling in a major haul are gone, his age is the reason his value is slipping. I feel I got a decent package for him though.If Calvin roughly equals 1.1 which some believe he does, than Floyd, Garcon and 1.4 for Calvin/2.4 is roughly that.Seriously. I'd like to hear that owner's rationale for making this trade.
Gotta believe Calvin is worth much moreCalvinDevilDog919 said:PPR 12-team
Traded: Calvin Johnson
2.04
Received: Michael Floyd
Pierre Garcon
1.04
Oof, players by a good bit for me :/Team A traded Maclin, Kelce, Washington LB Keenan Robinson, and rookie picks 36, 42 and 46 (all players were backups and had similar bye weeks to starters)
Team B traded the #3 rookie pick