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**Official 2015 Off-Season Dynasty Completed Trades Thread** (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Dr. Octopus
- Start date
Ha. Normally I would agree but I picked up Boldin a month ago for a 4th rounder and Jennings was a throw in in another deal. Roster cuts are due in two weeks and someone will be looking to avoid a cut and selling cheap. Happens every year in this league for some reason. But generally your assessment is correct.Dr. Octopus said:Good luck with that. People hold onto old depth WRs like an infant holds it's blue blanket.jmo87usc said:
3 hour lunch
Footballguy
Gave 1.1
Got Lacy
Got Lacy
lardonastick
Footballguy
12 team non-ppr, start 1-2-3-1-1flex. Not involved:
Antone Smith
Kenny Stills
2016 3rd (late, league runner-up)
for
Malcom Floyd
2.06
Antone Smith
Kenny Stills
2016 3rd (late, league runner-up)
for
Malcom Floyd
2.06
ctrlaltdefeat
Footballguy
Lacy all day, especially after Gurley goes to the Rams of all places. No qb and no receivers oh and no TE.
Adam Harstad
Moderator
1.1 and Lacy are currently my #2 and #3 rated dynasty RBs. I've currently got Lacy slightly ahead, but waffle on it, and could easily see taking the other side.
I'd probably base it on the rest of my roster composition. Championship frontrunner? Give me Lacy. Rebuilder? Give me 1.01.
One More Rep
Footballguy
3 hour lunch
Footballguy
That is what happened here...I have more of a veteran team; he has a lot of young pieces. I have Starks as well which helps a tiny bit.
cstu
Footballguy
jeaton6
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
I thought he was being sarcastic. I figured old depth WR would run cheap in most leagues. Does anyone actually want Greg Jennings?Ha. Normally I would agree but I picked up Boldin a month ago for a 4th rounder and Jennings was a throw in in another deal. Roster cuts are due in two weeks and someone will be looking to avoid a cut and selling cheap. Happens every year in this league for some reason. But generally your assessment is correct.Dr. Octopus said:Good luck with that. People hold onto old depth WRs like an infant holds it's blue blanket.jmo87usc said:
Madden Curse
Footballguy
I think 1.4 (after Gurley, Gordon, and Cooper are off the board) is where I strongly consider a trade-down if the offer is similar to what was given here.
Apollo Creed
Footballguy
16 team PPR (.25 RB, .5 WR, 1 TE), full, balanced IDP. Huge rosters. Salary cap and contracts
Team A gives
2015 2.14
2016 1st (mid-late)
2016 1st (late)
2016 2nd
Sankey $39 for 3 years
Team B Gives
for Bell $96 for 4 years
2016 3rd (early)
Team A gives
2015 2.14
2016 1st (mid-late)
2016 1st (late)
2016 2nd
Sankey $39 for 3 years
Team B Gives
for Bell $96 for 4 years
2016 3rd (early)
wildabeast49
Footballguy
Gave : Gurley, Mason, 2016 3th
Got : Alshon 2.5 2016 1st and 4th
Got : Alshon 2.5 2016 1st and 4th
cstu
Footballguy
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Very relieved to pull off this one, had been scrambling to trade up since 1.11 or so with no luck, but my guy kept falling!
12 team PPR, flexible lineups. 1 QB, 1-3 RB's, 1-4 WR's, 1-3 TE's
Gave:
Joique Bell
Got:
2.08 (took Phillip Dorsett...I'm the Hilton and Moncreif owner)
12 team PPR, flexible lineups. 1 QB, 1-3 RB's, 1-4 WR's, 1-3 TE's
Gave:
Joique Bell
Got:
2.08 (took Phillip Dorsett...I'm the Hilton and Moncreif owner)
Lott's Fingertip
Footballguy
Yeah, Dorsett fell in my draft too. I took him at #18, guy behind me wanted him. 10 team start QRRWWT + flex, 1/2 ppr for WR/TE ONLY
Traded Dorsett
Received #22 (picked Devin Smith) and a 2016 2nd rounder (mid to high)
I already have Cobb, Dez, Julio, and Watkins, plus drafted Devante Parker, so Dorsett was unnecessary.
One More Rep
Footballguy
Bruce Hammond
Footballguy
And it's a mistake. People will look back in a couple years and hit themselves in the head for passing on him.
ConnSKINS26
Footballguy
Its incredible. People are so short-sighted. He was rumored as a late-1st round prospect, then his pedigree was confirmed. There's lots of backlash against the pick because they needed so much defensive help, but they obviously LOVE Dorsett. Andre is a temporary road block, Moncreif hasn't developed yet and they've just invested a lot more into Dorsett. And that's not even bringing up Hilton's contract year.
Bruce Hammond
Footballguy
cstu
Footballguy
Alshon
Bell for me
I would sell 1.04 for that haul.
Close...not a bad gamble but I like the picks
Dorsett easily...steal that late and I could care less about other Colts WR. Judging from Moncrief's off season value any Colts 1st round WR has to be a 1st round pick whether you like him or not.
ILUVBEER99
Footballguy
ghostguy123
Footballguy
jeaton6
Footballguy
Bruce Hammond
Footballguy
Gurley will turn out to be a once in 6-8 year RB. Alshon is the 2nd best WR on his team.
jeaton6
Footballguy
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Bruce Hammond
Footballguy
LOL all you freaking want. It'll just make you look all the more foolish down the road.
ETA -- laughing at someone because you disagree with their opinion is uncool and immature.
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
It was a joke - old WRs are pretty easy to acquire in dynasty - just like your examples.Ha. Normally I would agree but I picked up Boldin a month ago for a 4th rounder and Jennings was a throw in in another deal. Roster cuts are due in two weeks and someone will be looking to avoid a cut and selling cheap. Happens every year in this league for some reason. But generally your assessment is correct.Dr. Octopus said:Good luck with that. People hold onto old depth WRs like an infant holds it's blue blanket.jmo87usc said:
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Come on. You can't say that yet. People who draft White need to hope that he becomes Jeffrey (who is easily a top 10 WR right now).
FUBAR
Footballguy
yeah, old players are probably the easiest thing to acquire in dynasty leagues. After kickers.Ha. Normally I would agree but I picked up Boldin a month ago for a 4th rounder and Jennings was a throw in in another deal. Roster cuts are due in two weeks and someone will be looking to avoid a cut and selling cheap. Happens every year in this league for some reason. But generally your assessment is correct.Dr. Octopus said:Good luck with that. People hold onto old depth WRs like an infant holds it's blue blanket.jmo87usc said:
Lacy but understand the other side.
and it's confirmed, "for free" has become the most overused term in this thread. and it's not close.
Bruce Hammond
Footballguy
If I had the chance to trade straight up I'd definitely take White. Not a second thought.
Coeur de Lion
Footballguy
Classic shiny new toy syndrome. I can understand trading an established young star for a truly exceptional / generational / best in ___ years type prospect as in the Gurley / Lacy deal above, but White isn't at that level. He's more of a "one of the best in his class" type.
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Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
I like White a lot, but you are not valuing Jeffrey properly. He was a high second round pick in his own right, is 25 years old, and has been highly productive despite inconsistent QB play.
It's not a given that any prospect will pan out. The odds are surely in White's favor to be a productive NFL player, but let's put it this way, if you drafted White would you immediately sign up for 89-1,421-7 and 85-1,133-10 in years 2 and 3 or would you roll the dice and hope for more?
jeaton6
Footballguy
I would hope that most in here have a little thicker skin than this?Bruce Hammond said:
Anyhow, I'm not laughing at you I'm laughing at the value you're placing on Gurley. This would effectively mean he's worth a top 5 start-up pick and worth at least as much as Bell. Just not seeing it, at least not yet. Sorry.
Sorry if I hurt your feelings. Not intended.
One More Rep
Footballguy
Even if Alshon ends up the 2nd best wr on his team, hasn't he already proved he is a top 10 wr in that role
Bruce Hammond
Footballguy
I'd be signing up for the player picked 7th overall in the NFL draft, who is going to become the team's WR1 ahead of the other guy, the team's WR2. You don't take a player 7th overall so he can play second fiddle.
This message board is so fraught with non-forward thinking people it drives me nuts. Jeffrey is not a top 10 dynasty WR. Not now with the drafting of White. His own team has said as much by using the pick on White.
Look, no one is going to win this argument, only time will tell.
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Bruce Hammond
Footballguy
It has nothing to do with my feelings or being thin skinned. It has to do with common courtesy, something that I shouldn't have to explain but apparently for some people it's necessary.
Yes I'd rather have Gurley than Bell. Better RB, no drug issues. Same as with White / A Jeffrey, it seems people are too enamoured with previous year stats to even consider they might not be the end all to evaluating players comparatively. I'd take Gurley over Bell in trade 10 times out of 10.
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blardorg
Footballguy
I wish I played in your league
Required reading for anyone finding themselves nodding in agreement with Bruce Hammond: http://rotoviz.com/2015/04/rebuilding-a-dynasty-and-the-odds-of-rookie-draft-picks/
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
So you got mad before and felt insulted by some one else laughing at your statement and now you fire back with this, an equally insulting statement?
Maybe some people think forwardly a bit differently than you do? Saying Jeffrey is not a top 10 WR because his team drafted some one could be just as shortsighted. Has every draft pick turned out exactly the way a team has planned it would? Could White be worth every bit of the value of that pick and still be behind Jeffrey? Has Jeffrey already shown he can be a top 10 WR even as a "second fiddle"?
Jeffrey is every bit the physical specimen White is, if not more, but fell in the draft due to concerns about his conditioning - a fear that has shown to be misguided thus far in his career.
Some people think they are so "forward thinking" but actually are falling victim to "shiny new toy syndrome" while casting off the superior toy. Taking White over Jeffrey right now and acting as if that's some no-brainer due to his draft position is ignoring some serious risk. A quick review of just the Bears first round picks alone should tell you that.
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FUBAR
Footballguy
Epic battles of history - "non-forward thinking people" vs. "shiny new toy fans"
Bruce Hammond
Footballguy
Oooooh, the famous "wish I played in your league" shot. I'm well aware of the chances of draft picks not hitting. The key is picking the right ones.I wish I played in your league
By the way,
2014
HyperActive 2 -- 10-2
HyperActive 3 -- 10-2 and conf. champ (lost in 24-team final)
HyperActive 4 -- 9-3
AAFL -- league runner up
Leather Helmet D3 -- league runner up
Leather Helmet D5 -- league runner up
Leather Helmet keeper -- league champion
Former Footballguys staff
Former fantasy columnist Contra Costa Times
30+ years in fantasy football
Many, many league titles, sometimes 3-4 in a year.
Ya, come play in my league.
blardorg
Footballguy
I was trotting out Luck, Bell, Lacy, Antonio Brown, Julio, Dez, and Gronk, but I wanted to be forward thinking, not stuck on last year's stats! So I traded each straight up for the new and improved 2015 models. Check this vastly superior lineup: Winston, Gurley, Gordon, Cooper, White, Parker, and Maxx Williams. I went from 0 to hero and will be winning my league superbowl right on schedule in 2019!
blardorg
Footballguy
Relax, I didn't mean it as a burn on you personally
Tons of people are (imo) way overvaluing rookies right now, which is to be expected. If I could get Bell or Jeffery in any of my leagues for the 1.01 or 1.03 straight up, I'd love it! I got Deandre Hopkins for the 1.04 in one and was ecstatic.I think you're dismissing the odds of your picks missing way too easily. If the key is just "picking the right ones," why does the consensus ADP, which is driven by tons of smart and experienced guys like you putting in lots of research (I mean this sincerely, not sarcastically, so please take it as such!), have such a hard time hitting on their draft picks every single year? It's because even the best scouting and planning can only do so much, and draft picks are largely a crapshoot. The best you can do is get as many picks as you can as early as you can so you increase the odds of hitting.
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