**Official** 2015 Washington Redskins Thread YOU LIKE THAT! (2 Viewers)

[dehaven123]

Redskins are on a pace to give up 20 sacks this year.

Now imagine Brandon Scherf and Morgan Moses with a year of experience under their belt.

Morgan Moses has looked pretty good this year.

 who amongst us let all of know daily leading up to the season how bad Moses was and is?

seems like Moses is doing alright for himself and the OLine.

 

[Warrior]

we can’t control the penalties. We can’t control what happens in the football game

 

[thayman]

Redskins are on a pace to give up 20 sacks this year.

Now imagine Brandon Scherf and Morgan Moses with a year of experience under their belt.

Morgan Moses has looked pretty good this year.

 who amongst us let all of know daily leading up to the season how bad Moses was and is?

seems like Moses is doing alright for himself and the OLine.

The Oline has looked good. Happy to see Spencer Long step up and play well too. Plus the fact the right side of the line seems pretty set for the next 5ish years is a great feeling!

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

I'm not a fan or anything, so take this however you will.

I like the philosophy they're building behind: run the ball, be tough on defense and don't let your QB screw it up. It's a great way to be competitive while you don't have the personnel, and if the rest of the team gets good enough it offers a path to the playoffs even if you don't have an elite QB.

Cousins probably doesn't have Dalton's ceiling, but the Bengals are probably the best model for this team. Dalton's been on fire lately, but it's mostly because of the people around him on offense and he has the good fortune to playing with a really good defense that wins field position and turns the other team over. Keep upgrading around the QB and then hope you catch fire at the right time (a la Joe Flacco) or you stumble into a cheap upgrade at QB (a la Wilson).

 

[fatness]

who amongst us let all of know daily leading up to the season how bad Moses was and is?seems like Moses is doing alright for himself and the OLine.

I know it was someone but don't remember who.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Doc talking on Monday mornings is like testosterone, adrenalin, and the English language being shot out of a cannon.

because it's so true.

 

[thayman]

Still very stoked on the win. But Special Teams remains a big issue. They continue to be determined to screw up as much as possible. Which is weird since I think we have one of the top punters in the league and our new kicker is perfect through a couple games.

 

[fatness]

Joe Philbin got fired. Apparently beating the Redskins wasn't enough to save his job.

I guess that means Coughlin will be next.

 

[Sebowski]

Still very stoked on the win. But Special Teams remains a big issue. They continue to be determined to screw up as much as possible. Which is weird since I think we have one of the top punters in the league and our new kicker is perfect through a couple games.

Our kicker is perfect on FGs and is kicking touchbacks. This makes me waaaaaay happier than it should.

 

[(HULK)]

FYI, about the penalties.

I'm a biased fan, but from the stands, it looked like the refs were in the tank for Philly. Some really bad calls against us + some terrible pass interferences from Philly that drew 0 flags.

 

[dehaven123]

who amongst us let all of know daily leading up to the season how bad Moses was and is?

seems like Moses is doing alright for himself and the OLine.

I know it was someone but don't remember who.

 milkman?

 

[VaTerp]

who amongst us let all of know daily leading up to the season how bad Moses was and is?

seems like Moses is doing alright for himself and the OLine.

I know it was someone but don't remember who.

 milkman?

Yes, the same person who seriously suggested the Skins should just draft the top QB available EVERY single year. The same person who thinks Devonte Freeman shouldnt even be in the NFL. Who thinks that Jordan Matthews, who was covered successfully by a LB for much of the game yesterday, was the best WR in last year's rookie class. And the same person who thinks Christine Michael is better than DeMarco Murray. Not trying to single him out as we all have hits and misses and lot of this is TBD but just pointing out some of his strongly held opinions.

As for Moses, he went to one of my rival high schools (much later than me) and I've followed him since he was a HS sophomore. I was down on him as a pro prospect because he was so slow off the ball, played way too high, and was inconsistent. Was not a fan of the draft choice at all.

But I'm pleasantly surprised at how quickly he's developed and have to give a ton of credit to the kid, Bill Callahan, and the whole coaching staff. Hope his development continues and he and Scherff form a big, physical, right side of the O-line for years to come.

 

[thayman]

who amongst us let all of know daily leading up to the season how bad Moses was and is?

seems like Moses is doing alright for himself and the OLine.

I know it was someone but don't remember who.

 milkman?

Yes it was Milkman. He was lamenting none stop about how it was the worst pick in awhile. We ended up trading back and missed Bitonio who's on Cleveland now. I'm not sure how he's playing.

 

[dgreen]

And I still have a problem with some of Gruden's decisions to end halves.

Against Miami, up 10-7 with the ball at the 20, 27 seconds, and 1 timeout. Now, I'm not saying I expect any points in that situation, but I was not a fan of taking a knee. The obvious move there is to run a safe play and just see what happens. Who knows, maybe you get a 20 yard run and can then legitimately think about getting in FG position.

Against the Rams, up 17-0 with the ball at the 18, 1:44 on the clock, and 2 timeouts. Play calling was run, run, run and that final run was on a 3rd and 7 after the Rams took a timeout. They basically just gave the ball back to St. Louis, who was luckily unable to move the ball to attempt a FG.

And this week, against the Eagles, the defense makes a tackle with 31 seconds on the clock to force a 4th down up 13-0. I think we had all three timeouts and should have called a timeout. That either gives you a shot at a kickoff return (with a guy who returned one for a TD a week ago) or in the event of a missed FG (which is what happened) the ball is at the 23. Again, similar to Miami, not some great situation where you expect to get points out of it, but having the ball with 25 seconds and two timeouts would at least lead most teams to try something.

I think it mostly comes down to not trusting Cousins in that situation, which I guess is understandable. But, you can do some pretty safe things there like draws or screens or a 1 route play and just throw it away if it's not there. Maybe after the game-winning drive yesterday, Gruden put a little more trust in Cousins to have some aggressiveness on offense. I'm all for our main identity being running (and I LOVED that they still ran on the last drive yesterday), but I'm never a fan of "Let's play it extra safe; we have enough points right now" so early in a game.

 

[MattFancy]

I would love for us to look better in the 2nd halves of games. So far through 4 games, we've been outscored 57-32 and 15 of our points came in garbage time against the Giants when we were already trailing 25-6. And then, 7 of those came off of a kickoff return for a TD. So in all, our offense has scored 25 points in the 2nd half so far.

To go a step further, we've been outscored 26-3 in the 3rd quarter. To me, that says teams are adjusting to whatever we're doing and we make zero adjustments. We've had the lead at the half in 3 of 4 games so far.

We need to do something to ensure we don't come out flat to start the 2nd half. We were dominating the Eagles in the 1st half of that game, and let them right back into it in the 3rd quarter.

 

[tangfoot]

And this week, against the Eagles, the defense makes a tackle with 31 seconds on the clock to force a 4th down up 13-0. I think we had all three timeouts and should have called a timeout. That either gives you a shot at a kickoff return (with a guy who returned one for a TD a week ago) or in the event of a missed FG (which is what happened) the ball is at the 23. Again, similar to Miami, not some great situation where you expect to get points out of it, but having the ball with 25 seconds and two timeouts would at least lead most teams to try something.

I was screaming at them over this one, too. Why the hell do you not use your TOs there? It's not like you can take them with you.

Stopping the clock tells Philly that you don't think they'll get a first down. This does one of two things: 1) They run exactly the same plays and punt, or 2) they attempt to be a bit more aggressive knowing that they need a 1st down to kill the clock and go into halftime. Good things happen when you force a team to do something they don't want to do.

 

[VaTerp]

So.......

Jordan Reed not only has a concussion but also a sprained ankle and MCL. We all just knew it was too good to last.

This will really hurt the passing game IMO, especially with D-Jax's return unknown right now.

 

[Marvelous]

we can’t control the penalties. We can’t control what happens in the football game

Rex Ryan has a different take on penalties:

“Those penalties will keep you up at night. That’s something we’re going to fix,” Ryan said.

 

[MattFancy]

we can’t control the penalties. We can’t control what happens in the football game

Rex Ryan has a different take on penalties:

“Those penalties will keep you up at night. That’s something we’re going to fix,” Ryan said.

Well, the penalties would only keep Gruden up until Saturday. Then he's done anyway.

 

[dgreen]

we can’t control the penalties. We can’t control what happens in the football game

Rex Ryan has a different take on penalties:

“Those penalties will keep you up at night. That’s something we’re going to fix,” Ryan said.

Well, the penalties would only keep Gruden up until Saturday. Then he's done anyway.

Even if Gruden accomplishes great things here, he'll NEVER get away from that comment. He could win multiple SBs and we'll still joke about that.

 

[dgreen]

One thing that was so refreshing to see was the DLs ability to create pressure, fairly consistently, with just a 4-man rush. That's like something real teams do.

It's been nice to see this organization finally do some things that other teams have been doing. For example, I've commented on the Jordan Reed fade TD in week 1 and the Garcon back shoulder TD in week 2. Those are plays that seemed to be in everyone's playbook except ours.

This week, it was nice to see one play where the CB was playing a little off Garcon so Cousins just took the snap and hit Garcon at the line. Six yard gain on first down.

But (because I seem to want to nit pick today), there was another first down play that I thought it was moronic we didn't take advantage of something. Redskins sent trips bunched to the right. Philly had two CBs within a few yards of the LOS and then a safety about 10 yards back. They had a 3 on 2. I'm pretty sure it was 1st down. That should be an easy check into a quick throw, pick up 5 yards, get to 2nd and 5. I think Cousins did check something at the line, but handed off for no gain or maybe 1 yard.

I hate how so many people talk about the "genius" of some QBs and coordinators when they do things like throw to uncovered receivers. EVERY team and EVERY QB should be capable of seeing an uncovered receiver and have the freedom to take the snap and throw to him.

 

[thayman]

I would love for us to look better in the 2nd halves of games. So far through 4 games, we've been outscored 57-32 and 15 of our points came in garbage time against the Giants when we were already trailing 25-6. And then, 7 of those came off of a kickoff return for a TD. So in all, our offense has scored 25 points in the 2nd half so far.

To go a step further, we've been outscored 26-3 in the 3rd quarter. To me, that says teams are adjusting to whatever we're doing and we make zero adjustments. We've had the lead at the half in 3 of 4 games so far.

We need to do something to ensure we don't come out flat to start the 2nd half. We were dominating the Eagles in the 1st half of that game, and let them right back into it in the 3rd quarter.

This is the biggest indictment of Gruden's coaching ability. Every game he's coached they just come out so flat in the 2nd half.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

We should compile a list of Doc Walker quotes and carry them over from season to season. My favorite one from this morning, paraphrased:

"An injured player as far as I'm concerned is deceased."

I love Doc.

"It's a MANhood issue, baby!"

 

[dehaven123]

So.......

Jordan Reed not only has a concussion but also a sprained ankle and MCL. We all just knew it was too good to last.

This will really hurt the passing game IMO, especially with D-Jax's return unknown right now.

Arguably, the one skill position player we couldn't lose, yet the most likely one to lose anyway. Sucks.

 

[dehaven123]

who amongst us let all of know daily leading up to the season how bad Moses was and is?

seems like Moses is doing alright for himself and the OLine.

I know it was someone but don't remember who.

 milkman?

Yes, the same person who seriously suggested the Skins should just draft the top QB available EVERY single year. The same person who thinks Devonte Freeman shouldnt even be in the NFL. Who thinks that Jordan Matthews, who was covered successfully by a LB for much of the game yesterday, was the best WR in last year's rookie class. And the same person who thinks Christine Michael is better than DeMarco Murray. Not trying to single him out as we all have hits and misses and lot of this is TBD but just pointing out some of his strongly held opinions.

As for Moses, he went to one of my rival high schools (much later than me) and I've followed him since he was a HS sophomore. I was down on him as a pro prospect because he was so slow off the ball, played way too high, and was inconsistent. Was not a fan of the draft choice at all.

But I'm pleasantly surprised at how quickly he's developed and have to give a ton of credit to the kid, Bill Callahan, and the whole coaching staff. Hope his development continues and he and Scherff form a big, physical, right side of the O-line for years to come.

Wow.

 

[fatness]

And I still have a problem with some of Gruden's decisions to end halves.

Against Miami, up 10-7 with the ball at the 20, 27 seconds, and 1 timeout. Now, I'm not saying I expect any points in that situation, but I was not a fan of taking a knee. The obvious move there is to run a safe play and just see what happens. Who knows, maybe you get a 20 yard run and can then legitimately think about getting in FG position.

Against the Rams, up 17-0 with the ball at the 18, 1:44 on the clock, and 2 timeouts. Play calling was run, run, run and that final run was on a 3rd and 7 after the Rams took a timeout. They basically just gave the ball back to St. Louis, who was luckily unable to move the ball to attempt a FG.

And this week, against the Eagles, the defense makes a tackle with 31 seconds on the clock to force a 4th down up 13-0. I think we had all three timeouts and should have called a timeout. That either gives you a shot at a kickoff return (with a guy who returned one for a TD a week ago) or in the event of a missed FG (which is what happened) the ball is at the 23. Again, similar to Miami, not some great situation where you expect to get points out of it, but having the ball with 25 seconds and two timeouts would at least lead most teams to try something.

I think it mostly comes down to not trusting Cousins in that situation, which I guess is understandable. But, you can do some pretty safe things there like draws or screens or a 1 route play and just throw it away if it's not there. Maybe after the game-winning drive yesterday, Gruden put a little more trust in Cousins to have some aggressiveness on offense. I'm all for our main identity being running (and I LOVED that they still ran on the last drive yesterday), but I'm never a fan of "Let's play it extra safe; we have enough points right now" so early in a game.

Completely agree.

I would love for us to look better in the 2nd halves of games. So far through 4 games, we've been outscored 57-32 and 15 of our points came in garbage time against the Giants when we were already trailing 25-6. And then, 7 of those came off of a kickoff return for a TD. So in all, our offense has scored 25 points in the 2nd half so far.

To go a step further, we've been outscored 26-3 in the 3rd quarter. To me, that says teams are adjusting to whatever we're doing and we make zero adjustments. We've had the lead at the half in 3 of 4 games so far.

We need to do something to ensure we don't come out flat to start the 2nd half. We were dominating the Eagles in the 1st half of that game, and let them right back into it in the 3rd quarter.

Completely agree. It's a recurring pattern --- losing the 3rd quarter --- and one that the HC needs to figure out and try to fix. Gruden seems a little more willing to try different things this year, so perhaps he'll pay some attention to it.

 

[fatness]

Rex Ryan has a different take on penalties:

“Those penalties will keep you up at night. That’s something we’re going to fix,” Ryan said.

I came to post the exact same thing.

“Those penalties will keep you up at night. That’s something we’re going to fix,” Ryan said. “We have to clean up the unsportsmanlike penalties. We will sit a guy if emotions are getting the better of him.”

 

[fatness]

Updated Doc Walker quotes list. Feel free to add.

"An injured player as far as I'm concerned is deceased."
"It's a MANhood issue, baby!"

"Woulda, coulda, shoulda is for losers."

"They need to go up there and hit teams in the mouth."

 

[fatness]

With Baker taking over Paea's spot at DE, who was replacing Knighton yesterday? I think Kearse was cut.

 

[SeanTaylor21]

I didn't see if it was posted or not but doesn't Crowder remind you of Santana Moss in his prime? Everything I've seen has been him looking smooth. I'll be one to admit that I didn't think his ACC success would translate but he just does the job.

 

[thayman]

I didn't see if it was posted or not but doesn't Crowder remind you of Santana Moss in his prime? Everything I've seen has been him looking smooth. I'll be one to admit that I didn't think his ACC success would translate but he just does the job.

I think we've seen the last of Andre Roberts. Don't see how he can get on the game day roster. Especially with Jackson coming back.

 

[tangfoot]

Talk on the radio this afternoon is that Roberts will/may be cut.

 

[I Bet On All Games]

No problem mike. Forgot to mention our young players were looking good during the game. Crowder is going to be even more effective with time and Jackson back. I honestly see them moving the ball a lot more the 2nd half of the season.

Preston smith was making some noise, sheriff is locking down the guard spot, Murphy unleashed the fury on the last possession. I hate to say it but I was a little disappointed in Kerrigan. He had two clear hits on the QB and whiffed on both.

The 2nd half issues are clearly on gruden. When they consistently come out flat in the 2nd half usually after a solid 1st half, he is simply not making adjustments. All in all, I wouldn't expect too much this year but you can definitely see the building blocks are there. Trending up while eagles are imploding and Giants and cowboys are not too many seasons behind. Next couple of years should be interesting if they continue drafting like they have recently.

 

[Sebowski]

I didn't see if it was posted or not but doesn't Crowder remind you of Santana Moss in his prime? Everything I've seen has been him looking smooth. I'll be one to admit that I didn't think his ACC success would translate but he just does the job.

I'm going to try really hard to pretend you didn't say "in his prime". Ok, no. I just can't. Are you serious? I need to know these things.

 

[jbz]

Yeah santana in his prime was pro bowl caliber. Crowder isn't there. Hopefully he gets there

 

[Brunell4MVP]

Alshon Jeffrey is an unrestricted free agent this coming year. 6'3". 25 years old. Man would he fill a big need.

 

[Hang 10]

I didn't see if it was posted or not but doesn't Crowder remind you of Santana Moss in his prime? Everything I've seen has been him looking smooth. I'll be one to admit that I didn't think his ACC success would translate but he just does the job.

I'm going to try really hard to pretend you didn't say "in his prime". Ok, no. I just can't. Are you serious? I need to know these things.

Crowder might turn into a nice player but Santana had talent on a totally different level. Had Moss actually got to play with a decent QB, he'd have been a perennial probowler.

 

[thayman]

I didn't see if it was posted or not but doesn't Crowder remind you of Santana Moss in his prime? Everything I've seen has been him looking smooth. I'll be one to admit that I didn't think his ACC success would translate but he just does the job.

I'm going to try really hard to pretend you didn't say "in his prime". Ok, no. I just can't. Are you serious? I need to know these things.

Crowder might turn into a nice player but Santana had talent on a totally different level. Had Moss actually got to play with a decent QB, he'd have been a perennial probowler.

I think the best QB he ever played with was the last couple years of Mark Brunell. He'd have been amazing with a good QB.

 

[Hang 10]

I didn't see if it was posted or not but doesn't Crowder remind you of Santana Moss in his prime? Everything I've seen has been him looking smooth. I'll be one to admit that I didn't think his ACC success would translate but he just does the job.

I'm going to try really hard to pretend you didn't say "in his prime". Ok, no. I just can't. Are you serious? I need to know these things.

Crowder might turn into a nice player but Santana had talent on a totally different level. Had Moss actually got to play with a decent QB, he'd have been a perennial probowler.

I think the best QB he ever played with was the last couple years of Mark Brunell. He'd have been amazing with a good QB.

Yup. That makes his 2005 season look even more ridiculous.

 

[fatness]

Crowder looks experienced for a rookie and quite good. Comparing him to Moss is several years off at best. Yes, he's small and shifty and gets open, those similarities are there. But Moss was a near-great receiver, and Crowder is 4 games into his NFL career. We get carried away with how good players are when we win and how bad they are after we lose (I do it too).

Roberts shouldn't be cut and I doubt he will be. Someone will get injured and he'll likely be needed this year again.

 

[MattFancy]

I wouldn't cut Roberts, but I don't think he sees the field again this season without an injury. Jackson, Garcon, Crowder, Grant and Ross should be just fine going forward.

Looking ahead, think we bring Jackson and Garcon back next season?

 

[fatness]

No problem mike. Forgot to mention our young players were looking good during the game. Crowder is going to be even more effective with time and Jackson back. I honestly see them moving the ball a lot more the 2nd half of the season.

Preston smith was making some noise, sheriff is locking down the guard spot, Murphy unleashed the fury on the last possession. I hate to say it but I was a little disappointed in Kerrigan. He had two clear hits on the QB and whiffed on both.

The 2nd half issues are clearly on gruden. When they consistently come out flat in the 2nd half usually after a solid 1st half, he is simply not making adjustments. All in all, I wouldn't expect too much this year but you can definitely see the building blocks are there. Trending up while eagles are imploding and Giants and cowboys are not too many seasons behind. Next couple of years should be interesting if they continue drafting like they have recently.

If the Skins are smart they'll plan for Reed to be out for an extended period of time and make some offensive adjustments that get Crowder on the field in place of Reed. They were playing a fair amount with 2 TE's (Reed and Carrier) and they can go to 1 TE and have Crowder out there more. I'm hoping Jackson is back for the Atlanta game but I'm guessing it'll be the Jets game before he is.

I like Preston Smith and I think they have a young developing player there who will do a lot more in pass-rushing (and blocking passes) than Murphy can do. I'm very happy with Scherff and Moses on the right side. I did not think either would be this good this soon (adequate, sometimes a little more). They're both going to continue to get better.

 

[thayman]

I wouldn't cut Roberts, but I don't think he sees the field again this season without an injury. Jackson, Garcon, Crowder, Grant and Ross should be just fine going forward.

Looking ahead, think we bring Jackson and Garcon back next season?

I like Garcon, and I think Jackson is a special talent. I'd like to see them try to keep both around, but only if it's not cost prohibitive.

 

[Hang 10]

I wouldn't cut Roberts, but I don't think he sees the field again this season without an injury. Jackson, Garcon, Crowder, Grant and Ross should be just fine going forward.

Looking ahead, think we bring Jackson and Garcon back next season?

I like Garcon, and I think Jackson is a special talent. I'd like to see them try to keep both around, but only if it's not cost prohibitive.

You keep them around until you've got someone better. We'd be pretty thin at WR without them.

 

[thayman]

I wouldn't cut Roberts, but I don't think he sees the field again this season without an injury. Jackson, Garcon, Crowder, Grant and Ross should be just fine going forward.

Looking ahead, think we bring Jackson and Garcon back next season?

I like Garcon, and I think Jackson is a special talent. I'd like to see them try to keep both around, but only if it's not cost prohibitive.

You keep them around until you've got someone better. We'd be pretty thin at WR without them.

Wasn't Jackson's signing essentially a 2 year deal though? I thought the salary escalated in year 3 to the point where they would have to release him or re-sign him. I could be off though.

 

[Hang 10]

I wouldn't cut Roberts, but I don't think he sees the field again this season without an injury. Jackson, Garcon, Crowder, Grant and Ross should be just fine going forward.

Looking ahead, think we bring Jackson and Garcon back next season?

I like Garcon, and I think Jackson is a special talent. I'd like to see them try to keep both around, but only if it's not cost prohibitive.

You keep them around until you've got someone better. We'd be pretty thin at WR without them.

Wasn't Jackson's signing essentially a 2 year deal though? I thought the salary escalated in year 3 to the point where they would have to release him or re-sign him. I could be off though.

Yeah, I think you're right. The 3rd year was some kind of a team option. If it's not too crazy, I'd pay it.

 

[Marvelous]

As others have mentioned, there is no need to cut Roberts. Injuries happen much too frequently. If Crowder gets hurt, who is the slot receiver? It probably goes back to Roberts.

It will be hard to have both Garcon and Jackson back next year. Looking at McCloughan's teams, the does not invest that much money in WR. They are both good players. Jackson is special, but a bit of a free spirit.

 

[zamboni]

No problem mike. Forgot to mention our young players were looking good during the game. Crowder is going to be even more effective with time and Jackson back. I honestly see them moving the ball a lot more the 2nd half of the season.

Preston smith was making some noise, sheriff is locking down the guard spot, Murphy unleashed the fury on the last possession. I hate to say it but I was a little disappointed in Kerrigan. He had two clear hits on the QB and whiffed on both.

The 2nd half issues are clearly on gruden. When they consistently come out flat in the 2nd half usually after a solid 1st half, he is simply not making adjustments. All in all, I wouldn't expect too much this year but you can definitely see the building blocks are there. Trending up while eagles are imploding and Giants and cowboys are not too many seasons behind. Next couple of years should be interesting if they continue drafting like they have recently.

If the Skins are smart they'll plan for Reed to be out for an extended period of time and make some offensive adjustments that get Crowder on the field in place of Reed. They were playing a fair amount with 2 TE's (Reed and Carrier) and they can go to 1 TE and have Crowder out there more. I'm hoping Jackson is back for the Atlanta game but I'm guessing it'll be the Jets game before he is.

What do you guys think of Carrier as a Reed replacement in the passing game?

 

[MattFancy]

No problem mike. Forgot to mention our young players were looking good during the game. Crowder is going to be even more effective with time and Jackson back. I honestly see them moving the ball a lot more the 2nd half of the season.

Preston smith was making some noise, sheriff is locking down the guard spot, Murphy unleashed the fury on the last possession. I hate to say it but I was a little disappointed in Kerrigan. He had two clear hits on the QB and whiffed on both.

The 2nd half issues are clearly on gruden. When they consistently come out flat in the 2nd half usually after a solid 1st half, he is simply not making adjustments. All in all, I wouldn't expect too much this year but you can definitely see the building blocks are there. Trending up while eagles are imploding and Giants and cowboys are not too many seasons behind. Next couple of years should be interesting if they continue drafting like they have recently.

If the Skins are smart they'll plan for Reed to be out for an extended period of time and make some offensive adjustments that get Crowder on the field in place of Reed. They were playing a fair amount with 2 TE's (Reed and Carrier) and they can go to 1 TE and have Crowder out there more. I'm hoping Jackson is back for the Atlanta game but I'm guessing it'll be the Jets game before he is.

What do you guys think of Carrier as a Reed replacement in the passing game?

Carrier is an unknown at this point. No idea if he can fill in and replace what Reed was doing. Better bet is that Crowder takes some of those looks Reed was getting.

 

[fatness]

No problem mike. Forgot to mention our young players were looking good during the game. Crowder is going to be even more effective with time and Jackson back. I honestly see them moving the ball a lot more the 2nd half of the season.

Preston smith was making some noise, sheriff is locking down the guard spot, Murphy unleashed the fury on the last possession. I hate to say it but I was a little disappointed in Kerrigan. He had two clear hits on the QB and whiffed on both.

The 2nd half issues are clearly on gruden. When they consistently come out flat in the 2nd half usually after a solid 1st half, he is simply not making adjustments. All in all, I wouldn't expect too much this year but you can definitely see the building blocks are there. Trending up while eagles are imploding and Giants and cowboys are not too many seasons behind. Next couple of years should be interesting if they continue drafting like they have recently.

If the Skins are smart they'll plan for Reed to be out for an extended period of time and make some offensive adjustments that get Crowder on the field in place of Reed. They were playing a fair amount with 2 TE's (Reed and Carrier) and they can go to 1 TE and have Crowder out there more. I'm hoping Jackson is back for the Atlanta game but I'm guessing it'll be the Jets game before he is.

What do you guys think of Carrier as a Reed replacement in the passing game?

We haven't seen a whole lot of him so it's hard to tell. My uneducated impression is that he's bigger, slower, more of a blocker, less of a "get open" receiver. He may be an adequate TE, I just don't know yet. But he'd be a more typical TE than Reed, who's essentially a WR carrying 20 additional pounds.