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I traded Graham in a TE premium deep roster league where you can start up to two TEs last year, traded him midseason to a contender for Julian Edelman (start 3-5WR)
This is more my thinking. Obviously he was injured when drafted and that would seem to indicate that he would have gone higher if healthy. But he was also very raw.
This is the value assessment thread right? I was just giving another instance where Graham was traded, it had to have been after week 8 or 9, or whenever Edelman was hurt.Hankmoody said:
2016 Dynasty Value Assessment thread yes. Not 2015 Pre-Graham-Injury Pre-Edelman-Recovery thread. A trade made 8 months ago has no bearing on today's value assessments.
1.03 for me, if I've been holding Green for years now and hes finally in a situation that he might be able to pay off I'm gonna want 1 of 3 guys in this draft.
. Then he was a backup.
I guess it depends how much you're willing to cherry pick.He averaged 14 ppg last season early on. He was TE8 in ppg when he got hurt.
If you're buying Murray, Langford, Buck Allen, Crowell, Ryan Mathews, McFadden/Morris, Ajayi, Rawls, gore, etc, in the next 3 weeks, you should get a discount. If his owner wants full price then talk after the NFL draft and look elsewhere. This is a good time for bargain shopping but only if you're getting an actual bargain. For Murray that would be a late first at most. I'd definitely give a second.
Continuing with perhaps my terrible start up draft, I took him at 9.12. The two spots before were Larry Fitz and rookie pick 2.02. The three picks after were Julius Thomas (me) then rookie pick 2.03 and Desean Jackson.
I agree. I don't think he's worth a top 3 pick either. I said 4-7 and certainly a first rounder. But if this was last year's rookie class, it might be a second rounder. I think the top pick thing is just as much a function of this weak class as it is Green.
Traded him for Eric Ebron 2 weeks ago. Had a long debate with Bloom and Waldman on twitter, they still prefer Jimmy but I cannot see him ever coming back to elite TE1 status.
Ah, the shotgun approach. I like the deal for you. Especially if you're in "win now" mode.
Just OFFERED (not traded) the 1.02, Smelter, 2017 4th, 10% of our waiver wire dollars for Sammy.
Sorry, gotta be me.
Yea, I'm just tired of all of you people here who come in with "Well he had a ####ty year last year" when the player turned in WR1 or RB1 numbers, but not at the level of his previous record breaking seasons. Stafford now loses a guy capable of 90 catches, 1,200 yards and 10 TD's - if you think that Stafford's numbers won't fall off, then maybe you could point to Brett Favre when he lost Sterling Sharpe and actually increased his numbers the next year... but I don't think so.
Watkins was the 4th best PPR receiver from week 9 until the end last year. People who had him for that stretch remember and won't let him go cheap. I think two early 1st is probably correct. Even then, I might pass.
ideally i would want 1.01 this year, and a virtual top 3 lock next year to really consider it
I could see Stafford's numbers staying relatively static even after losing one of the greatest WRs of all time (and I agree he actually played very well last season despite those that think he sucked for some reason).
I drafted him in the 2nd round last year and won the championship for a 20 team/2 division/$250-buy in league. He was fine.
He finished as WR12 in ppr leagues. He did have a huge game on Thanksgiving which positively skewed his final numbers a bit but he had a good season overall.
I own him in only one spot, so i dont think im overly biased here
The point was, the comp to Hill isnt great. I realize we are talking hill for a pick and that pick could be henry, BostonFred likes henry more than Hill, which is fine. But comparing their measurable stuff to each other means nothing. Theyre nothing alike and it doesnt mean Henry is better or worse.
This is a good comp. But Henry was 21 at the combine. Murray was 23. Henry is bigger and did both jumps better. Murray was significantly faster and did the 3 cone better. Henry also has a better pedigree and fared much better against much tougher competition in college.
True, its just hard to forecast what an incoming RB is gonna do in the NFL, and college production isnt necessarily THE indicator of success. Far too many Ron Dayne/Montee Ball types. We have at least seen what Murray and Hill can do, and I can totally understand gambling Henry can be at least as good. But Hill has shown he can be very good, and im not sure swapping him for a shot at henry isnt a mistake if he has a career resurgence ala Doug Martin
Thats what everyone is hoping for. There is a chance i might end up with him in one league, landing spot will be the determining factor.
Update: REJECTED
