Official 2016 GOP thread: Is it really going to be Donald Trump?? (2 Viewers)

[SHIZNITTTT]

I hope that Trump wins.

 

[Slapdash]

The other candidates, media, and rebuplican establishment has finally found something to crush Trump for. Thought it would take longer for the clown to make this large a gaffe.

 

[Paulymaggs]

I hope that Trump wins.

Trump ALL THE WAY

 

[Fennis]

Last time we had a pretty big turnover rate of crazies at the top of the poll, didn't we? Cain, Bachman, Santorum all had their time well ahead of anything that mattered at the top of the polls iirc.

I think Herman Cain was out front at this point too. But Trump is self-funded, has huge name recognition, and the network and cable news programs of all stripes are eating him up.

Trump led the GOP field in 2012 before he imploded over Obama's birth certificate.

 

[sho nuff]

Walker/Rubio is still the best ticket for the GOP. Lots of time for that to change

Why?

Im still trying to figure out if anyone can really give a reason why Walker would be a good candidate.

So far...being a winner and having a down to earth vibe are his best qualities.

What are you looking for?

Usually if someone is worth a vote for president...those supporting him would have some reasoning other than...he is a winner with a down to earth vibe.

Qualifications...why you think he may be a good president...things like that.

Its telling to me that I have asked this question multiple times...and have almost zero answers that would come close to qualifying someone to be president.

So you don't like Walker then huh...I think we get it.What more experience or qualifications did Obama have when he entered the race? I'll hang up and listen.

Didn't vote for him. Don't like Obama particularly. Has nothing to do with Walker.

And Obama hasn't worked out well ..so that seems like a terrible thing to bring up in support of Walker.

 

[sho nuff]

Walker/Rubio is still the best ticket for the GOP. Lots of time for that to change

Why?

Im still trying to figure out if anyone can really give a reason why Walker would be a good candidate.

So far...being a winner and having a down to earth vibe are his best qualities.

What are you looking for?

Usually if someone is worth a vote for president...those supporting him would have some reasoning other than...he is a winner with a down to earth vibe.

Qualifications...why you think he may be a good president...things like that.

Its telling to me that I have asked this question multiple times...and have almost zero answers that would come close to qualifying someone to be president.

Again, what are YOU looking for?

It seems like you're going to eliminate reasons he's a good candidate one way or the other. So you don't like him - that doesn't discount the reasoning of others who do.

Because nobody can give a n actual reason he is qualified.

Several perfectly good and valid reasons have already been given. Just because YOU don't consider them "actual reasons" doesn't mean they aren't.

But, again, I suspect it's because you really won't accept ANY reasons because you just don't like Walker.

Where?

Down to earth vibe is a valid qualification for president?

Being a winner?

Telling you can't bring any more to the tabl . .and I know why you support him...it has all to do with party. You will support any Republican.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Walker/Rubio is still the best ticket for the GOP. Lots of time for that to change

Why?

Im still trying to figure out if anyone can really give a reason why Walker would be a good candidate.

So far...being a winner and having a down to earth vibe are his best qualities.

What are you looking for?

Usually if someone is worth a vote for president...those supporting him would have some reasoning other than...he is a winner with a down to earth vibe.

Qualifications...why you think he may be a good president...things like that.

Its telling to me that I have asked this question multiple times...and have almost zero answers that would come close to qualifying someone to be president.

So you don't like Walker then huh...I think we get it.What more experience or qualifications did Obama have when he entered the race? I'll hang up and listen.

Didn't vote for him. Don't like Obama particularly. Has nothing to do with Walker.

And Obama hasn't worked out well ..so that seems like a terrible thing to bring up in support of Walker.

lame deflection

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Last time we had a pretty big turnover rate of crazies at the top of the poll, didn't we? Cain, Bachman, Santorum all had their time well ahead of anything that mattered at the top of the polls iirc.

I think Herman Cain was out front at this point too. But Trump is self-funded, has huge name recognition, and the network and cable news programs of all stripes are eating him up.

Trump led the GOP field in 2012 before he imploded over Obama's birth certificate.

I think it was more like he fizzled when he didn't get in the race. The BC thing is a lot like we are seeing now, tossing hand grenades to see what fish he can catch. in fact I think he recently questioned Obama's birthplace again, and it's funny because it hardly even got noticed between his other lunacy.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

Until the GOP gets religion out of the party and stops alienating entire groups of people, they are going to be the "not sane" almost fringe party.

The gop needs to figure out what their agenda really is. Fiscal responsibility and tax reform or all the social stuff. Then let a 3rd party take on what's remaining.

 

[Kal El]

In a bizarre way, I do appreciate Trump sticking to his guns about this, because now we get to see his campaign implode. I still want to punch him, though.

 

[sho nuff]

Walker/Rubio is still the best ticket for the GOP. Lots of time for that to change

Why?

Im still trying to figure out if anyone can really give a reason why Walker would be a good candidate.

So far...being a winner and having a down to earth vibe are his best qualities.

What are you looking for?

Usually if someone is worth a vote for president...those supporting him would have some reasoning other than...he is a winner with a down to earth vibe.

Qualifications...why you think he may be a good president...things like that.

Its telling to me that I have asked this question multiple times...and have almost zero answers that would come close to qualifying someone to be president.

So you don't like Walker then huh...I think we get it.What more experience or qualifications did Obama have when he entered the race? I'll hang up and listen.

Didn't vote for him. Don't like Obama particularly. Has nothing to do with Walker.And Obama hasn't worked out well ..so that seems like a terrible thing to bring up in support of Walker.

lame deflection

Yes, you bringing up Obama was a very lame deflection.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

Walker/Rubio is still the best ticket for the GOP. Lots of time for that to change

Why?

Im still trying to figure out if anyone can really give a reason why Walker would be a good candidate.

So far...being a winner and having a down to earth vibe are his best qualities.

What are you looking for?

Usually if someone is worth a vote for president...those supporting him would have some reasoning other than...he is a winner with a down to earth vibe.

Qualifications...why you think he may be a good president...things like that.

Its telling to me that I have asked this question multiple times...and have almost zero answers that would come close to qualifying someone to be president.

So you don't like Walker then huh...I think we get it.What more experience or qualifications did Obama have when he entered the race? I'll hang up and listen.

Didn't vote for him. Don't like Obama particularly. Has nothing to do with Walker.And Obama hasn't worked out well ..so that seems like a terrible thing to bring up in support of Walker.

lame deflection

Yes, you bringing up Obama was a very lame deflection.

All I asked was for a comparative answer for what experience/qualifications our current President had/has before he ran, and how that level of experience /qualifications in comparison make Walker a bad candidate. Were talking about a person running for President, so that's why I brought up Obama. Pick another for comparison's sake. If you can't answer the question, that's cool.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

This GOP is very very close to losing me as a voter.

What issues would you like to see them emphasize?

Sanity.

This. Until they can get some sanity I dont see a GOP candidate winning the presidency. Republicans better start realizing this or the party could go bye bye.

Again, the problem with posts like this is that "sanity" basically means "whatever I believe in". And when it comes from liberals it's even more laughable because of the obvious bias.

I think you have me confused with someone else.

 

[sho nuff]

Walker/Rubio is still the best ticket for the GOP. Lots of time for that to change

Why?

Im still trying to figure out if anyone can really give a reason why Walker would be a good candidate.

So far...being a winner and having a down to earth vibe are his best qualities.

What are you looking for?

Usually if someone is worth a vote for president...those supporting him would have some reasoning other than...he is a winner with a down to earth vibe.

Qualifications...why you think he may be a good president...things like that.

Its telling to me that I have asked this question multiple times...and have almost zero answers that would come close to qualifying someone to be president.

So you don't like Walker then huh...I think we get it.What more experience or qualifications did Obama have when he entered the race? I'll hang up and listen.

Didn't vote for him. Don't like Obama particularly. Has nothing to do with Walker.And Obama hasn't worked out well ..so that seems like a terrible thing to bring up in support of Walker.

lame deflection

Yes, you bringing up Obama was a very lame deflection.

All I asked was for a comparative answer for what experience/qualifications our current President had/has before he ran, and how that level of experience /qualifications in comparison make Walker a bad candidate. Were talking about a person running for President, so that's why I brought up Obama. Pick another for comparison's sake. If you can't answer the question, that's cool.

Point us...I don't support Obama...but bringing a comparison of a bad president being as qualified as the current candidate does not seem like a very ringing endorsement... Nor does it answer my questions about Walker. So I deflect your poor deflection.

I mean, if you can't answer my question, that's cool.

 

[Ookie Pringle]

Walker/Rubio is still the best ticket for the GOP. Lots of time for that to change

Why?

Im still trying to figure out if anyone can really give a reason why Walker would be a good candidate.

So far...being a winner and having a down to earth vibe are his best qualities.

What are you looking for?

Usually if someone is worth a vote for president...those supporting him would have some reasoning other than...he is a winner with a down to earth vibe.

Qualifications...why you think he may be a good president...things like that.

Its telling to me that I have asked this question multiple times...and have almost zero answers that would come close to qualifying someone to be president.

So you don't like Walker then huh...I think we get it.What more experience or qualifications did Obama have when he entered the race? I'll hang up and listen.

Didn't vote for him. Don't like Obama particularly. Has nothing to do with Walker.And Obama hasn't worked out well ..so that seems like a terrible thing to bring up in support of Walker.

lame deflection

Yes, you bringing up Obama was a very lame deflection.

All I asked was for a comparative answer for what experience/qualifications our current President had/has before he ran, and how that level of experience /qualifications in comparison make Walker a bad candidate. Were talking about a person running for President, so that's why I brought up Obama. Pick another for comparison's sake. If you can't answer the question, that's cool.

Point us...I don't support Obama...but bringing a comparison of a bad president being as qualified as the current candidate does not seem like a very ringing endorsement... Nor does it answer my questions about Walker. So I deflect your poor deflection.

I mean, if you can't answer my question, that's cool.

 

[timschochet]

I could never vote for Walker, but I believe he is well qualified to be President. He's been the executive of a state with a sharp partisan divide. He was able to push through the main points of his agenda in the face of strong opposition. These are experiences that can't be taught, and very few politicians from either party can cite this sort of record.

If I was a conservative. This would probably be the guy I want above all others in the race.

 

[joffer]

This GOP is very very close to losing me as a voter.

What issues would you like to see them emphasize?

Sanity.

This. Until they can get some sanity I dont see a GOP candidate winning the presidency. Republicans better start realizing this or the party could go bye bye.

Again, the problem with posts like this is that "sanity" basically means "whatever I believe in". And when it comes from liberals it's even more laughable because of the obvious bias.

I think you have me confused with someone else.

@ Max

 

[timschochet]

Chris Christie, asked about Chattanooga- Rand Paul is trying to cut military intelligence spending which will make us more vulnerable to this sort of attack.

Rand Paul- Thats a disgusting attack by Chris Christie, bringing politics into this tragedy!

Both of these guys are desperate to bump up their ratings by a point or 2 in order to guarantee a safe seat in the first debate. Wouldn't surprise me if they collaborated on this.

 

[sho nuff]

I could never vote for Walker, but I believe he is well qualified to be President. He's been the executive of a state with a sharp partisan divide. He was able to push through the main points of his agenda in the face of strong opposition. These are experiences that can't be taught, and very few politicians from either party can cite this sort of record.

If I was a conservative. This would probably be the guy I want above all others in the race.

To me...him pushing his agenda (that I was for and agreed with) is not that big of a positive. The manner how he went about pushing it thru...and how politics have become that divisive... I see little from him at this point to make me think he can or would work with those who oppose him.

We have had 2 presidents in a row now who seem more willing to be divisive than to make things work. So not sure how that part of his record is a positive.

Sure, as a give, he is about as qualified as anyone domestically...but have still heard very few really positive things from even his supporters.

 

[Ookie Pringle]

Wouldn't surprise me if they collaborated on this.

Very doubtful.

 

[timschochet]

I could never vote for Walker, but I believe he is well qualified to be President. He's been the executive of a state with a sharp partisan divide. He was able to push through the main points of his agenda in the face of strong opposition. These are experiences that can't be taught, and very few politicians from either party can cite this sort of record.

If I was a conservative. This would probably be the guy I want above all others in the race.

To me...him pushing his agenda (that I was for and agreed with) is not that big of a positive. The manner how he went about pushing it thru...and how politics have become that divisive... I see little from him at this point to make me think he can or would work with those who oppose him.We have had 2 presidents in a row now who seem more willing to be divisive than to make things work. So not sure how that part of his record is a positive.

Sure, as a give, he is about as qualified as anyone domestically...but have still heard very few really positive things from even his supporters.

if I'm a conservative, I don't want a President who tries to work with Democrats. I want a President who defeats Democrats, and who pushes a conservative agenda.

 

[timschochet]

Wouldn't surprise me if they collaborated on this.

Very doubtful.

That was a joke.

 

[BroncoFreak_2K3]

I could never vote for Walker, but I believe he is well qualified to be President. He's been the executive of a state with a sharp partisan divide. He was able to push through the main points of his agenda in the face of strong opposition. These are experiences that can't be taught, and very few politicians from either party can cite this sort of record.

If I was a conservative. This would probably be the guy I want above all others in the race.

Wow, someone that can give a real answer to the question. Cripes.

 

[sho nuff]

I could never vote for Walker, but I believe he is well qualified to be President. He's been the executive of a state with a sharp partisan divide. He was able to push through the main points of his agenda in the face of strong opposition. These are experiences that can't be taught, and very few politicians from either party can cite this sort of record.

If I was a conservative. This would probably be the guy I want above all others in the race.

To me...him pushing his agenda (that I was for and agreed with) is not that big of a positive. The manner how he went about pushing it thru...and how politics have become that divisive... I see little from him at this point to make me think he can or would work with those who oppose him.We have had 2 presidents in a row now who seem more willing to be divisive than to make things work. So not sure how that part of his record is a positive.

Sure, as a give, he is about as qualified as anyone domestically...but have still heard very few really positive things from even his supporters.

if I'm a conservative, I don't want a President who tries to work with Democrats. I want a President who defeats Democrats, and who pushes a conservative agenda.

Sure...which is why all the candidates run to the right.

And nationally, many of those policies (social) are losers.

I'm not a full conservative. Fiscally I am...some social issues a bit.

But think they are behind the times on many other social issues.

I don't think Hillary will be good either...that's why I'd like a real candidate.

I don't think Walker can beat Hillary.

She is way more savvy than Mary Burke.

 

[timschochet]

Actually I don't think Walker can beat Hillary either. But that's a different issue than whether he's qualified.

Anything can happen between now and the election, of course, but the main problem with Walkwr is that IMO he can't win Florida. There's no realistic electoral path for him.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Obviously paths exist for Walker and others in the GOP, the Midwest is one of them. Bring in Rubio and Fla is in play. Add Kasich and Ohio is in play. Obviously Hillary remains the favorite and likely next president. She is highly flawed though and one flaw is many people are dying for anyone not named Clinton or Bush.

 

[Kal El]

Obviously paths exist for Walker and others in the GOP, the Midwest is one of them. Bring in Rubio and Fla is in play. Add Kasich and Ohio is in play. Obviously Hillary remains the favorite and likely next president. She is highly flawed though and one flaw is many people are dying for anyone not named Clinton or Bush.

Personally, I'm sick of anyone who has been in Washington for longer than 4 years.

 

[QuizGuy66]

This GOP is very very close to losing me as a voter.

What issues would you like to see them emphasize?

Sanity.

This. Until they can get some sanity I dont see a GOP candidate winning the presidency. Republicans better start realizing this or the party could go bye bye.

Again, the problem with posts like this is that "sanity" basically means "whatever I believe in". And when it comes from liberals it's even more laughable because of the obvious bias.

I think you have me confused with someone else.

Yeah, I think he does.

Spoiler

Yankee is a secret liberal agent - I've seen him at the meetings

-QG

 

[timschochet]

Some study being touted on the radio says that for the Republicans to win they will need at least 43% of all Latino votes. Before anyone challenges this I have no idea what formula they used.

Right now the top GOP candidate among Latinos is Jeb Bush with 24%.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

That's one way for the goppers to win.

 

[Yankee23Fan]

Yeah that's me. I've been fishing the entire time. That would be awesome though if I could pull that off.

 

[timschochet]

Poor Bobby Jindal- the guy never gets a break. On Saturday, within hours after Trump's comment, Jindal was the first to condemn him on Twitter. Jindal's name and comments were reported on the AP wire, on TV, everywhere. This would be his big moment, what he finally needed to push him into the top 10 and get him on that debate stage! It would be Jindal vs Trump! Anxiously Bobbi's people called all of the Sunday morning shows - their candidate was available.

All for naught. Within two hours all of the other candidates besides Cruz offered their own condemnation. Jindal had been first but who cares? Other guys were quoted more often. Rick Perry called for Trump to withdraw, and suddenly in was Perry's name in all the stories. Back to the drawing board for Bobby. Only 3 weeks left before that debate and right now he's below the cuff. Time is running out...

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Well that was fast - Walker now leads in Iowa.

http://www.monmouth.edu/assets/0/32212254770/32212254991/32212254992/32212254994/32212254995/30064771087/e6c48f94-1380-45b6-80e4-dbaf5f5f78ad.pdf

 

[Thunderlips]

Republicans...its checkers...it ain't chess. You have states like CO,FL,NC,OH and VA that were won with 51%. You have states like PA,WI,NM,NV,IA and MN that were 52% to 53%. You're going to have a certain percentage of Obama voters (black) who aren't going to vote again. You'll have Democrat fatigue/Obama fatigue and Bush/Clinton fatigue working for you. I don't think Obama's going to break 50% on his approval rating, so he's not going to be a huge benefit to battleground states. All you got to do is pick a Rust Belt/Rockefeller Republican to put the screws to those states while staying away from the Tea Party/Bible Belt rhetoric.

Bible Belt and Flyover Country Republicans.....just shut the #### up about gays and Confederate Flags and just vote for the moderate Republican.....you'll at the least get a more sympathetic ear in the WH. Every R candidate should be trouncing Trump right now....just eviscerating him because any, ANY non-comments about him is going to be taken and used as an affirmation of his views.

 

[timschochet]

Well that was fast - Walker now leads in Iowa.

http://www.monmouth.edu/assets/0/32212254770/32212254991/32212254992/32212254994/32212254995/30064771087/e6c48f94-1380-45b6-80e4-dbaf5f5f78ad.pdf

Hes been at the top of the polls there all along.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

He's gotten a 4-5 point bump just from announcing.

 

[squistion]

Jonathan Karl ‏@jonkarl ·

JUST IN: ABC/WP Poll. The Front Runner - @realDonaldTrump

Trump 24

Walker 13

Bush 12

Huck 8

Rubio 7

Paul 6

Poll taken Thu-Sun (1/2)

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Jonathan Karl ‏@jonkarl ·

JUST IN: ABC/WP Poll. The Front Runner - @realDonaldTrump

Trump 24

Walker 13

Bush 12

Huck 8

Rubio 7

Paul 6

Poll taken Thu-Sun (1/2)

I'm pretty sure that is the second one to show him leading nationally. Personally I think Democrats and Republicans who do so need to stop laughing about him.

 

[The General]

Nice work, republicans.

 

[joffer]

Jonathan Karl ‏@jonkarl ·

JUST IN: ABC/WP Poll. The Front Runner - @realDonaldTrump

Trump 24

Walker 13

Bush 12

Huck 8

Rubio 7

Paul 6

Poll taken Thu-Sun (1/2)

I'm pretty sure that is the second one to show him leading nationally. Personally I think Democrats and Republicans who do so need to stop laughing about him.

how? If the polls don't mean anything yet, you've got to laugh at him. if they do, you've got to laugh at him and everyone supporting him.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

I like the Onion headline "Trump calls nun the C- word, jumps 5 points in poll"

 

[The General]

I like the Onion headline "Trump calls nun the C- word, jumps 5 points in poll"

If he drops that on Hillary they might skip the whole thing and just give him the nom.

 

[joffer]

I like the Onion headline "Trump calls nun the C- word, jumps 5 points in poll"

gotta respect his shtick a little bit. he's manipulating the news outlets beautifully, and his "no, I won't apologize for anything" angle has them dumbfounded. that's what his supporters like. what he originally said is almost irrelevant.

 

[Amused to Death]

I like the Onion headline "Trump calls nun the C- word, jumps 5 points in poll"

gotta respect his shtick a little bit. he's manipulating the news outlets beautifully, and his "no, I won't apologize for anything" angle has them dumbfounded. that's what his supporters like. what he originally said is almost irrelevant.

I'm just trying to imagine the GOP reaction if Obama had made those same comments about McCain back in '08. Hannity's practically blaming the media for blowing it out of proportion.

 

[TPW]

I like the Onion headline "Trump calls nun the C- word, jumps 5 points in poll"

gotta respect his shtick a little bit. he's manipulating the news outlets beautifully, and his "no, I won't apologize for anything" angle has them dumbfounded. that's what his supporters like. what he originally said is almost irrelevant.

Trump is a clown but he definitely also appeals to the part of me that really, really despises political correctness. He's fun to watch if for no other reason that he goes after both the limp-wristed social justice crowd and Republican establishment alike and does not back down. If there were ever any groups of people which needed a big 'F-you' it's those two.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

I like the Onion headline "Trump calls nun the C- word, jumps 5 points in poll"

gotta respect his shtick a little bit. he's manipulating the news outlets beautifully, and his "no, I won't apologize for anything" angle has them dumbfounded. that's what his supporters like. what he originally said is almost irrelevant.

This is true. The media is a dumbfounded, but they also put his statements out there, and cover him - cnn, fox, msnbc, networks, all of them - so it becomes a massive reality show.

 

[Slapdash]

I like the Onion headline "Trump calls nun the C- word, jumps 5 points in poll"

gotta respect his shtick a little bit. he's manipulating the news outlets beautifully, and his "no, I won't apologize for anything" angle has them dumbfounded. that's what his supporters like. what he originally said is almost irrelevant.

This is true. The media is a dumbfounded, but they also put his statements out there, and cover him - cnn, fox, msnbc, networks, all of them - so it becomes a massive reality show.

It is always just a big reality show, the media is just disappointed they didn't get to pick the star.

 

[The Commish]

I like the Onion headline "Trump calls nun the C- word, jumps 5 points in poll"

gotta respect his shtick a little bit. he's manipulating the news outlets beautifully, and his "no, I won't apologize for anything" angle has them dumbfounded. that's what his supporters like. what he originally said is almost irrelevant.

This is true. The media is a dumbfounded, but they also put his statements out there, and cover him - cnn, fox, msnbc, networks, all of them - so it becomes a massive reality show.

It's always been a dog and pony show. The difference is that Trump isn't beholden to the media or the party. He is who he is and he's not a marionette for the GOP puppeteer.

 

[timschochet]

Did I write just yesterday that Scott Walker could be the nominee? Hmm.

http://www.salon.com/2015/07/20/scott_walkers_deranged_hawkishness_hes_ready_to_bomb_iran_during_his_inauguration_speech/

WALKER: It’s very possible – God forbid, but it’s very possible – that the next president could be called to take aggressive actions, including military action, on the first day in office (against Iran.). And I don’t want a president who is not prepared to act on day one. So, as far as me, as far as my position, I’m going to be prepared to be president on day one.

 

[Slapdash]

On the other hand, Trump seems like the type of guy to bomb a country just for a perceived insult.