Official 2016 GOP thread: Is it really going to be Donald Trump?? (1 Viewer)

[AnonymousBob]

I look at motives. I'm actually good at reading people. Carson has no motive to be president other than he loves his country. Hillary wants to be president because of the power. She got to fire some folks & liked it. She flunked her first state bar law exam. Took it in another state that was easier. Bill got to bang his bimbos, now Hillary get's to bang hers. Want to blast Ben for his opinions on stuff. Blast off. From what I seen posted it's pretty easy.

I think anyone running for President these days does it for reasons more than just love of the country. They all have egos. They all want power. There's nothing wrong with that.

You may be good at reading people, but unless you've met all the candidates in person and spent time with them all, your opinion seems a bit over the top considering you're going off some TV interviews, books, and debates.

 

[shadrap]

No, but I think it factual that Barack does not.

 

[Capella]

Lol at thinking somebody running for prez doesn't care about power.

 

[AnonymousBob]

No, but I think it factual that Barack does not.

Link to these facts?

 

[shadrap]

I look at motives. I'm actually good at reading people. Carson has no motive to be president other than he loves his country. Hillary wants to be president because of the power. She got to fire some folks & liked it. She flunked her first state bar law exam. Took it in another state that was easier. Bill got to bang his bimbos, now Hillary get's to bang hers. Want to blast Ben for his opinions on stuff. Blast off. From what I seen posted it's pretty easy.

I think anyone running for President these days does it for reasons more than just love of the country. They all have egos. They all want power. There's nothing wrong with that.

You may be good at reading people, but unless you've met all the candidates in person and spent time with them all, your opinion seems a bit over the top considering you're going off some TV interviews, books, and debates.

Tv interviews, books(not), debates? Your right, that's all I've got. He is not a politicion.

 

[AnonymousBob]

Furthermore, don't you think a President's "opinions on stuff" will hold a great deal of weight with choosing which direction to nudge this country? If so, isn't it fair game to question some of his unusual opinions?

 

[shadrap]

No, but I think it factual that Barack does not.

Link to these facts?

Probably could, but won't right now. Shouldn't have said "factual", because I don't have that. I only have opinion plus some pretty good history in office.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

I like Carson. He had an upbringing like most blacks in the inner city of Detroit. Just respect the guy & figure if he can get through med-school, Harvard he obviously has some smarts & can adept on the fly; i.e. our Country. I also think he has a good heart & really does care about the USA & you. He seems like the least of the bunch to actually want power, to have power, to further themselves. IMO

I got just the opposite impression. He's not building his organization and he "suspended" his campaign for his book signing - meaning that money goes directly to him, not his campaign.

 

[AnonymousBob]

No, but I think it factual that Barack does not.

Link to these facts?

Probably could, but won't right now. Shouldn't have said "factual", because I don't have that. I only have opinion plus some pretty good history in office.

Okay, so you think all the candidates think America is exceptional, and not just Carson.

Do you feel the other candidates are intelligent? Medical school is quite the accomplishment. Do you believe graduating law school is as equally valid in qualifying a person to run the country?

 

[bigbottom]

I like Carson. He had an upbringing like most blacks in the inner city of Detroit. Just respect the guy & figure if he can get through med-school, Harvard he obviously has some smarts & can adept on the fly; i.e. our Country. I also think he has a good heart & really does care about the USA & you. He seems like the least of the bunch to actually want power, to have power, to further themselves. IMO

I get the sense that Carson has a gigantic ego. It would probably be more apparent if he weren't standing next to Trump. The guy's house is like a shrine to his own glory, complete with a big painting of himself and Jesus. He's called time outs in his campaign to sell books and do book signings, and the title of his autobiography, "Gifted Hands" smacks of a God complex. Of course, this doesn't set him apart from the other candidates. They all pretty much have gigantic egos. You almost have to to run for president.

 

[NorvilleBarnes]

to sign books and do book signings

 

[bigbottom]

to sign books and do book signings

Sell and sign!!!

 

[BigSteelThrill]

On Fox Ben Carson can barely hold a conversation of any substance. Gave the "all of them" answer when asked for specifics.

SARAH PALIN Jr. http://crooksandliars.com/2015/11/ben-carson-cant-name-any-our-allies-his

 

[[scooter]]

I like Carson. He had an upbringing like most blacks in the inner city of Detroit. Just respect the guy & figure if he can get through med-school, Harvard he obviously has some smarts & can adept on the fly; i.e. our Country. I also think he has a good heart & really does care about the USA & you. He seems like the least of the bunch to actually want power, to have power, to further themselves. IMO

I get the sense that Carson has a gigantic ego. It would probably be more apparent if he weren't standing next to Trump. The guy's house is like a shrine to his own glory, complete with a big painting of himself and Jesus. He's called time outs in his campaign to sell books and do book signings, and the title of his autobiography, "Gifted Hands" smacks of a God complex.Of course, this doesn't set him apart from the other candidates. They all pretty much have gigantic egos. You almost have to to run for president.

Other signs that Carson has a gigantic ego:

1. writing an autobiography.

2. writing 3 additional "motivational" books that are are basically autobiographical tributes to yourself.

3. twisting and/or misinterpreting events in your life to make yourself the focal point. (i.e., being the hero of the fake psych exam).

4. accusing the media of picking on you as if you were the only person who ever led in a presidential poll.

 

[[scooter]]

On Fox Ben Carson can barely hold a conversation of any substance. Gave the "all of them" answer when asked for specifics.

SARAH PALIN Jr. http://crooksandliars.com/2015/11/ben-carson-cant-name-any-our-allies-his

That's some pretty harsh treatment from Chris Wallace. Roger Ailes must not want Carson to get the nomination.

 

[Maurile Tremblay]

On Fox Ben Carson can barely hold a conversation of any substance. Gave the "all of them" answer when asked for specifics.

SARAH PALIN Jr. http://crooksandliars.com/2015/11/ben-carson-cant-name-any-our-allies-his

That really wasn't anything like Sarah Palin's "all of them."

Wallace was asking whom Carson would call first; Carson described the set of nations he'd call on; and Wallace wanted to know who would be first. But the order really doesn't matter.

 

[BigSteelThrill]

On Fox Ben Carson can barely hold a conversation of any substance. Gave the "all of them" answer when asked for specifics.

SARAH PALIN Jr. http://crooksandliars.com/2015/11/ben-carson-cant-name-any-our-allies-his

That really wasn't anything like Sarah Palin's "all of them."

Wallace was asking whom Carson would call first; Carson described the set of nations he'd call on; and Wallace wanted to know who would be first. But the order really doesn't matter.

Yes it was. Watch again, he doesn't know.

 

[QuizGuy66]

I think the events of the weekend cook Carson.

They should cook Trump too - but I fear the opposite will happen.

Cruz will get a boost from them. While Paul is also on the Foreign Relations Committee in terms of that primary voters are not going to see it his way.

Jeb! will think it helps him, try to proffer that it helps him. But people still won't buy.

Rubio's job probably gets trickier vs Cruz.

I don't think anybody outside the top 4 will gain sufficient traction off of it. Really a dearth of foreign policy experience outside of Graham and at best he'll double his support to 0%.

-QG

 

[HellToupee]

I think the events of the weekend cook Carson.

They should cook Trump too - but I fear the opposite will happen.

Cruz will get a boost from them. While Paul is also on the Foreign Relations Committee in terms of that primary voters are not going to see it his way.

Jeb! will think it helps him, try to proffer that it helps him. But people still won't buy.

Rubio's job probably gets trickier vs Cruz.

I don't think anybody outside the top 4 will gain sufficient traction off of it. Really a dearth of foreign policy experience outside of Graham and at best he'll double his support to 0%.

-QG

It's Trump & Cruz now

 

[Skoo]

Let's say he has a good heart, doesn't really want the power, and thinks you should work if possible instead of having welfare.

So what? Are these your only qualifications for being President?

Getting through medical school undoubtedly takes smarts and hard work. Do you feel smarts and hard work in one field mean you will be equally qualified and successful in an entirely unrelated field with zero experience?

Nope, but I would take a guy trying to figure out what is best for our country in the first one year & going from there because he believes America is exceptional. Rather than same o, same o. imo

This is the equivalent of an NFL team drafting a player #1 overall who has never played a down of football in his life.

 

[Leeroy Jenkins]

I think the events of the weekend cook Carson.

They should cook Trump too - but I fear the opposite will happen.

Cruz will get a boost from them. While Paul is also on the Foreign Relations Committee in terms of that primary voters are not going to see it his way.

Jeb! will think it helps him, try to proffer that it helps him. But people still won't buy.

Rubio's job probably gets trickier vs Cruz.

I don't think anybody outside the top 4 will gain sufficient traction off of it. Really a dearth of foreign policy experience outside of Graham and at best he'll double his support to 0%.

-QG

It's Trump & Cruz now

uke:

 

[Eephus]

Let's say he has a good heart, doesn't really want the power, and thinks you should work if possible instead of having welfare.

So what? Are these your only qualifications for being President?

Getting through medical school undoubtedly takes smarts and hard work. Do you feel smarts and hard work in one field mean you will be equally qualified and successful in an entirely unrelated field with zero experience?

Nope, but I would take a guy trying to figure out what is best for our country in the first one year & going from there because he believes America is exceptional. Rather than same o, same o. imo

This is the equivalent of an NFL team drafting a player #1 overall who has never played a down of football in his life.

Antonio Gates just turned 35 and is eligible to be President. Just sayin'

 

[QuizGuy66]

I think the events of the weekend cook Carson.

They should cook Trump too - but I fear the opposite will happen.

Cruz will get a boost from them. While Paul is also on the Foreign Relations Committee in terms of that primary voters are not going to see it his way.

Jeb! will think it helps him, try to proffer that it helps him. But people still won't buy.

Rubio's job probably gets trickier vs Cruz.

I don't think anybody outside the top 4 will gain sufficient traction off of it. Really a dearth of foreign policy experience outside of Graham and at best he'll double his support to 0%.

-QG

It's Trump & Cruz now

uke:

Can't say I'd go quite that far - but if the establishment decide's Rubio is their guy they are going to need to get some hawks around him probably. Would need an old-line strong defense veep type on the ticket I would assume.

-QG

 

[bakes]

I think the events of the weekend cook Carson.

They should cook Trump too - but I fear the opposite will happen.

Cruz will get a boost from them. While Paul is also on the Foreign Relations Committee in terms of that primary voters are not going to see it his way.

Jeb! will think it helps him, try to proffer that it helps him. But people still won't buy.

Rubio's job probably gets trickier vs Cruz.

I don't think anybody outside the top 4 will gain sufficient traction off of it. Really a dearth of foreign policy experience outside of Graham and at best he'll double his support to 0%.

-QG

It's Trump & Cruz now

uke:

Can't say I'd go quite that far - but if the establishment decide's Rubio is their guy they are going to need to get some hawks around him probably. Would need an old-line strong defense veep type on the ticket I would assume.

-QG

They want to add someone *more* hawkish than Cruz??? :shudder:

 

[QuizGuy66]

I think the events of the weekend cook Carson.

They should cook Trump too - but I fear the opposite will happen.

Cruz will get a boost from them. While Paul is also on the Foreign Relations Committee in terms of that primary voters are not going to see it his way.

Jeb! will think it helps him, try to proffer that it helps him. But people still won't buy.

Rubio's job probably gets trickier vs Cruz.

I don't think anybody outside the top 4 will gain sufficient traction off of it. Really a dearth of foreign policy experience outside of Graham and at best he'll double his support to 0%.

-QG

It's Trump & Cruz now

uke:

Can't say I'd go quite that far - but if the establishment decide's Rubio is their guy they are going to need to get some hawks around him probably. Would need an old-line strong defense veep type on the ticket I would assume.

-QG

They want to add someone *more* hawkish than Cruz??? :shudder:

Cruz has a freer hand if he's the nominee. I think Rubio's choices are more limited. Did Kasich have any foreign policy committee assignments when he was in congress?

-QG

 

[Sammy3469]

I think the events of the weekend cook Carson.

They should cook Trump too - but I fear the opposite will happen.

Cruz will get a boost from them. While Paul is also on the Foreign Relations Committee in terms of that primary voters are not going to see it his way.

Jeb! will think it helps him, try to proffer that it helps him. But people still won't buy.

Rubio's job probably gets trickier vs Cruz.

I don't think anybody outside the top 4 will gain sufficient traction off of it. Really a dearth of foreign policy experience outside of Graham and at best he'll double his support to 0%.

-QG

It's Trump & Cruz now

uke:

Can't say I'd go quite that far - but if the establishment decide's Rubio is their guy they are going to need to get some hawks around him probably. Would need an old-line strong defense veep type on the ticket I would assume.

-QG

Cheney!

In all seriousness though, if this becomes a foreign policy primary, I think he's probably in trouble. He can't out crazy Trump and Cruz and frankly he doesn't look like a tough serious negotiator (basically he doesn't look the part...he's too baby-faced). The establishment may want him now, but there's a limited window here for him to at act the part.

 

[bagger]

I think the events of the weekend cook Carson.

They should cook Trump too - but I fear the opposite will happen.

Cruz will get a boost from them. While Paul is also on the Foreign Relations Committee in terms of that primary voters are not going to see it his way.

Jeb! will think it helps him, try to proffer that it helps him. But people still won't buy.

Rubio's job probably gets trickier vs Cruz.

I don't think anybody outside the top 4 will gain sufficient traction off of it. Really a dearth of foreign policy experience outside of Graham and at best he'll double his support to 0%.

-QG

It's Trump & Cruz now

uke:

Can't say I'd go quite that far - but if the establishment decide's Rubio is their guy they are going to need to get some hawks around him probably. Would need an old-line strong defense veep type on the ticket I would assume.-QG

They want to add someone *more* hawkish than Cruz??? :shudder:

cant wait to see zombie hitler join the kids table debate.

 

[bakes]

I think the events of the weekend cook Carson.

They should cook Trump too - but I fear the opposite will happen.

Cruz will get a boost from them. While Paul is also on the Foreign Relations Committee in terms of that primary voters are not going to see it his way.

Jeb! will think it helps him, try to proffer that it helps him. But people still won't buy.

Rubio's job probably gets trickier vs Cruz.

I don't think anybody outside the top 4 will gain sufficient traction off of it. Really a dearth of foreign policy experience outside of Graham and at best he'll double his support to 0%.

-QG

It's Trump & Cruz now

uke:

Can't say I'd go quite that far - but if the establishment decide's Rubio is their guy they are going to need to get some hawks around him probably. Would need an old-line strong defense veep type on the ticket I would assume.-QG

They want to add someone *more* hawkish than Cruz??? :shudder:

cant wait to see zombie hitler join the kids table debate.

Meant to say Rubio, not Cruz.

 

[QuizGuy66]

I think the events of the weekend cook Carson.

They should cook Trump too - but I fear the opposite will happen.

Cruz will get a boost from them. While Paul is also on the Foreign Relations Committee in terms of that primary voters are not going to see it his way.

Jeb! will think it helps him, try to proffer that it helps him. But people still won't buy.

Rubio's job probably gets trickier vs Cruz.

I don't think anybody outside the top 4 will gain sufficient traction off of it. Really a dearth of foreign policy experience outside of Graham and at best he'll double his support to 0%.

-QG

It's Trump & Cruz now

uke:

Can't say I'd go quite that far - but if the establishment decide's Rubio is their guy they are going to need to get some hawks around him probably. Would need an old-line strong defense veep type on the ticket I would assume.-QG

They want to add someone *more* hawkish than Cruz??? :shudder:

cant wait to see zombie hitler join the kids table debate.

Meant to say Rubio, not Cruz.

Rubio can play hawkish but I think it is an ill-fit based on his short resume. It's like Jindal playing hawkish. There's nothing to connect the words to his experience. Even Trump can harken back to quotes a decade ago even if he's just full of it.

-QG

 

[culdeus]

I think the events of the weekend cook Carson.

They should cook Trump too - but I fear the opposite will happen.

Cruz will get a boost from them. While Paul is also on the Foreign Relations Committee in terms of that primary voters are not going to see it his way.

Jeb! will think it helps him, try to proffer that it helps him. But people still won't buy.

Rubio's job probably gets trickier vs Cruz.

I don't think anybody outside the top 4 will gain sufficient traction off of it. Really a dearth of foreign policy experience outside of Graham and at best he'll double his support to 0%.

-QG

It's Trump & Cruz now

uke:

Can't say I'd go quite that far - but if the establishment decide's Rubio is their guy they are going to need to get some hawks around him probably. Would need an old-line strong defense veep type on the ticket I would assume.-QG

They want to add someone *more* hawkish than Cruz??? :shudder:

cant wait to see zombie hitler join the kids table debate.

Meant to say Rubio, not Cruz.

Rubio can play hawkish but I think it is an ill-fit based on his short resume. It's like Jindal playing hawkish. There's nothing to connect the words to his experience. Even Trump can harken back to quotes a decade ago even if he's just full of it.

-QG

Somewhat Ironic Jeb has been distancing from his last name due to hawkish overtones with it, now could leverage it for current sentiment.

 

[timschochet]

It seems to me that Paris will not be as easy to exploit for Republicans as some assume.

There are two problems: first, in order to contrast with Obama, you've got to call for ground troops. If you try to contrast by simply saying "Hey, Obama's been weak, and I'll be strong" without committing yourself to ground troops, the public is going to get confused, as they should be, because in the end there will appear to be no real difference in policy. The words "weak" and "strong" are meaningless without specific actions to define them. Stuff like "I'm willing to call this Islamic terrorism and Obama isn't!" only works with the true believers. For everybody else, you need to demonstrate a difference. And, of course, if the Republican candidate DOES come out for new American ground troops in Iraq, he'll lose that battle, because the American people don't want it.

The second problem is that Hillary Clinton is not perceived by the public as weak on this issue.

 

[Eephus]

I think the events of the weekend cook Carson.

They should cook Trump too - but I fear the opposite will happen.

Cruz will get a boost from them. While Paul is also on the Foreign Relations Committee in terms of that primary voters are not going to see it his way.

Jeb! will think it helps him, try to proffer that it helps him. But people still won't buy.

Rubio's job probably gets trickier vs Cruz.

I don't think anybody outside the top 4 will gain sufficient traction off of it. Really a dearth of foreign policy experience outside of Graham and at best he'll double his support to 0%.

-QG

It's Trump & Cruz now

uke:

Can't say I'd go quite that far - but if the establishment decide's Rubio is their guy they are going to need to get some hawks around him probably. Would need an old-line strong defense veep type on the ticket I would assume.-QG

They want to add someone *more* hawkish than Cruz??? :shudder:

cant wait to see zombie hitler join the kids table debate.

Meant to say Rubio, not Cruz.

Rubio can play hawkish but I think it is an ill-fit based on his short resume. It's like Jindal playing hawkish. There's nothing to connect the words to his experience. Even Trump can harken back to quotes a decade ago even if he's just full of it.

-QG

Somewhat Ironic Jeb has been distancing from his last name due to hawkish overtones with it, now could leverage it for current sentiment.

Jeb! has a little more actual foreign policy experience than Patti Davis and Billy Carter

 

[Fennis]

Huckabee calls on Ryan to prevent entry of Syrian refugees, or to step down

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/mike-huckabee-paul-ryan-syria-215934#ixzz3rigjmgn3

Ryan has to regret taking that job. Huck is so desperate for attention.

 

[Dickies]

Huckabee calls on Ryan to prevent entry of Syrian refugees, or to step down

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/mike-huckabee-paul-ryan-syria-215934#ixzz3rigjmgn3

Ryan has to regret taking that job. Huck is so desperate for attention.

Huckabee is the toddler that ####s its pants so this the parents come running.

 

[RBM]

It seems to me that Paris will not be as easy to exploit for Republicans as some assume.

There are two problems: first, in order to contrast with Obama, you've got to call for ground troops. If you try to contrast by simply saying "Hey, Obama's been weak, and I'll be strong" without committing yourself to ground troops, the public is going to get confused, as they should be, because in the end there will appear to be no real difference in policy. The words "weak" and "strong" are meaningless without specific actions to define them. Stuff like "I'm willing to call this Islamic terrorism and Obama isn't!" only works with the true believers. For everybody else, you need to demonstrate a difference. And, of course, if the Republican candidate DOES come out for new American ground troops in Iraq, he'll lose that battle, because the American people don't want it.

The second problem is that Hillary Clinton is not perceived by the public as weak on this issue.

The refuge situation is the one where the dems will lose. That's the issue the repubs need to exploit.

 

[timschochet]

It seems to me that Paris will not be as easy to exploit for Republicans as some assume.

There are two problems: first, in order to contrast with Obama, you've got to call for ground troops. If you try to contrast by simply saying "Hey, Obama's been weak, and I'll be strong" without committing yourself to ground troops, the public is going to get confused, as they should be, because in the end there will appear to be no real difference in policy. The words "weak" and "strong" are meaningless without specific actions to define them. Stuff like "I'm willing to call this Islamic terrorism and Obama isn't!" only works with the true believers. For everybody else, you need to demonstrate a difference. And, of course, if the Republican candidate DOES come out for new American ground troops in Iraq, he'll lose that battle, because the American people don't want it.

The second problem is that Hillary Clinton is not perceived by the public as weak on this issue.

The refuge situation is the one where the dems will lose. That's the issue the repubs need to exploit.

Theyre certainly trying. But the problem with that issue is, unless there is another terrorist attack here, it won't be on voters minds a whole year from now. Plus no matter how you feel about it it's a peripheral issue.

 

[Sand]

Rubio can play hawkish but I think it is an ill-fit based on his short resume. It's like Jindal playing hawkish. There's nothing to connect the words to his experience. Even Trump can harken back to quotes a decade ago even if he's just full of it.


-QG

Funny enough the only candidate with experience here is Hillary and she is currently delivering random gibberish on the subject. Rubio is doing fine on this, IMO - the president and Hillary's words are making things really easy here. Softball after softball.

 

[Snoopy]

Jindal

"This is not my time"

http://www.npr.org/2015/11/17/456416876/jindal-ends-presidential-campaign-this-is-not-my-time

 

[joffer]

Jindal

"This is not my time"

http://www.npr.org/2015/11/17/456416876/jindal-ends-presidential-campaign-this-is-not-my-time

and hopefully it never will be

 

[timschochet]

Saints is going to be upset, as this means that Bobby will return to focusing on governing.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Jindal the latest victim of Gilmorementum!



-QG

 

[ffldrew]

Jindal the latest victim of Gilmorementum!



-QG

Who picks up his 10 supporters?

 

[Amused to Death]

Funny how Christie says he would have the police officers' back when he won't negotiate their pension. Actually he did, then reneged.

More than 2,000 police union members rally in Trenton for pay raises, sick leave

Law enforcement officers say Gov. Christie has not addressed their contracts.

Video

 

[NutterButter]

Funny how Christie says he would have the police officers' back when he won't negotiate their pension. Actually he did, then reneged.

More than 2,000 police union members rally in Trenton for pay raises, sick leave

Law enforcement officers say Gov. Christie has not addressed their contracts.

Video

NJ police are already paid too much.

 

[ffldrew]

Saints is going to be upset, as this means that Bobby will return to focusing on governing.

David Vitter set to clean uphttps://youtu.be/KHwWs9mCP3Q

 

[joffer]

Saints is going to be upset, as this means that Bobby will return to focusing on governing.

David Vitter set to clean uphttps://youtu.be/KHwWs9mCP3Q

 

[Todd Andrews]

Saints is going to be upset, as this means that Bobby will return to focusing on governing.

David Vitter set to clean uphttps://youtu.be/KHwWs9mCP3Q

Awesome!

 

[cubd8]

Jindal the latest victim of Gilmorementum!



-QG

Who picks up his 10 supporters?

I can safely say it probably wasn't Donald Trump.

 

[cubd8]

Jindal

"This is not my time"

http://www.npr.org/2015/11/17/456416876/jindal-ends-presidential-campaign-this-is-not-my-time

and hopefully it never will be

Jindal didn't belong at the kiddie table. Just seemed to be pandering pretty much all the time, moreso than even most politicians normally do. Hard to know what he actually believes since he's trying so hard to make a dent.

Got to assume Huckabee, or Santorum's time is coming.

 

[NutterButter]

Jindal the latest victim of Gilmorementum!



-QG

Who picks up his 10 supporters?