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***Official*** 2018 World Cup thread (and Drinking Guide) (4 Viewers)

Guy wearing the Brazil jacket celebrating with Colombian players after Mina ties it 1-1 is the CONMEBOL equivalent of the S-E-C Chant Guy.

 
Sinn Fein said:
Yellow Cards - re-set after QFs, but if any of these players pick up a yellow card in the QF, they will miss the Semi-Finals.
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In addition, 3 players will miss the QFs:

Casemiro (Brazil) v. Belgium

Matuidi (France) v. Uruguay

Lustig (Sweden) v. England

Uruguay have only received 1 Yellow card in the tournament - pretty impressive given their strong defensive record (1 goal conceded in 4 matches)

 
Sinn Fein said:
In addition, 3 players will miss the QFs:

Casemiro (Brazil) v. Belgium

Matuidi (France) v. Uruguay

Lustig (Sweden) v. England

Uruguay have only received 1 Yellow card in the tournament - pretty impressive given their strong defensive record (1 goal conceded in 4 matches)
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And insatiable appetite.

 
I thought England played pretty well until they took the lead and the Colombian players started acting up. At that point, I think some England players decided they could ice the game by getting a Colombian sent off. So they lost the plot a bit, while Colombia admirably regained their composure and started to play. 

I thought Mina and Davinson Sanchez were right up there with Godin and Jimenez as the best CB pairings I’ve seen in the tournament. 

 
I also thought Geiger handled a tough spot fairly well. I have no problem with him wanting to keep 22 men on the field. He made the players decide the game without ever letting the situation escalate to the point the players were in danger. 

 
Sinn Fein said:
Uruguay have only received 1 Yellow card in the tournament - pretty impressive given their strong defensive record (1 goal conceded in 4 matches)
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They'd have a legit shot to win this if they hadn't gotten hosed so badly on the bracket.  They defend like they're a club team that's been together for a decade.  Everyone is in position almost all the time.  But France then Brazil or Belgium is some bad luck.

 
Ramsay Hunt Experience said:
I also thought Geiger handled a tough spot fairly well. I have no problem with him wanting to keep 22 men on the field. He made the players decide the game without ever letting the situation escalate to the point the players were in danger. 
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Agreed.  He threw the yellow cards around pretty liberally after things got chippy.  And on the PK his choice was to send off two Colombians for 2nd-yellow dissents or give them a lot of rope.

And on the head butt, I think he got help from someone -- don't think he saw it.  Definitely looked like someone was chattering in his ear at the time.  Also think they got that yellow right.  He put his head into Henderson, but more of a push than a whack.

And I say all that after hating Colombia yesterday -- they were petulant #####.

 
Dinsy Ejotuz said:
They'd have a legit shot to win this if they hadn't gotten hosed so badly on the bracket.  They defend like they're a club team that's been together for a decade.  Everyone is in position almost all the time.  But France then Brazil or Belgium is some bad luck.
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So Ur-u-guay  who believes that they can really sink their teeth into their opponents, with a defense that is Go-din their opponents into bad decisions without getting carded...

:bag:

 
Dinsy Ejotuz said:
Agreed.  He threw the yellow cards around pretty liberally after things got chippy.  And on the PK his choice was to send off two Colombians for 2nd-yellow dissents or give them a lot of rope.

And on the head butt, I think he got help from someone -- don't think he saw it.  Definitely looked like someone was chattering in his ear at the time.  Also think they got that yellow right.  He put his head into Henderson, but more of a push than a whack.

And I say all that after hating Colombia yesterday -- they were petulant #####.
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that was an awful game to ref for sure.  I am shocked some people are coming down so hard on the ref.

The fact that the game some how got back under control was amazing to me considering all the crap the Colombian's were pulling.

*The PK was the absolute right call

*the head butt review was not his choice.  It was the VAR officials who made the decision that it was not worth reviewing

*giving a maybe well deserved second yellow to Colombia would have ended the game too soon and likely caused a riot on the field.  I think he made the right choice to not give a second yellow even if in a normal weekly club game it would have been given with out second thought.

 
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in complete agreement with you guys regarding geiger. again- don't think he missed any fouls or in any way dictated the outcome.

I still think he needed to take control of that PK and post-PK mayhem better. walk himself out of the box, warn the colombians not to encroach either him or the box or there will be yellow shown. seemed like the players felt they could start getting away with more after that, until he had to start throwing yellows around. but other than that- yeah- decent work.

 
El Floppo said:
I still think he needed to take control of that PK and post-PK mayhem better. walk himself out of the box, warn the colombians not to encroach either him or the box or there will be yellow shown. 
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I agree.  Getting himself out of the box is the right move there.  

I wish FIFA would wake the #### up and start issuing some massive penalties for any time any one other than the captain talks to the ref.  The surrounding of the ref should be removed from the game IMO.

 
NewlyRetired said:
I agree.  Getting himself out of the box is the right move there.  

I wish FIFA would wake the #### up and start issuing some massive penalties for any time any one other than the captain talks to the ref.  The surrounding of the ref should be removed from the game IMO.
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:goodposting:

 
I didn't read the in-game chatter. Am I the olbly one who thought Kane sold that thing more than it was an actual PK? I don't disagree with the call completely, but should be noted it was a total sell job. 

 
Sebowski said:
I didn't read the in-game chatter. Am I the olbly one who thought Kane sold that thing more than it was an actual PK? I don't disagree with the call completely, but should be noted it was a total sell job. 
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I don't have an issue with players selling an actual foul. 

 
had meant to mention this to resident time-keeper @Woz

one of the things about soccer rules- they're typically set up to translate from pro down to rec/youth leagues. field size, ball size, rules... all set up to not change from one level to another. so- historically, the time is kept by the ref on the field looking at his stopwatch as most fields, leagues and teams can't and don't have countdown clocks available.

But... given that they're moving to VAR and goal-line tech, we may also see a move with timekeeping only in the pros even though lower levels won't be able to keep up with that. I've often thought that there should a 4th official reviewing off-the ball and non-obvious stuff like diving- ideally live... they could also keep a more realistic running game clock going. would be interesting to see how that would be play out- when exactly does the clock stop, etc.

 
El Floppo said:
in complete agreement with you guys regarding geiger. again- don't think he missed any fouls or in any way dictated the outcome.

I still think he needed to take control of that PK and post-PK mayhem better. walk himself out of the box, warn the colombians not to encroach either him or the box or there will be yellow shown. seemed like the players felt they could start getting away with more after that, until he had to start throwing yellows around. but other than that- yeah- decent work.
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Most comments came around that point in the game. I agree he somehow got things back under control. The 8 yellow cards probably played a part. All 8 were deserved, though, at least.

 
Sebowski said:
I didn't read the in-game chatter. Am I the olbly one who thought Kane sold that thing more than it was an actual PK? I don't disagree with the call completely, but should be noted it was a total sell job. 
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agree with gian... but kane was also bear-hugged and brought down. if he somehow initiated that- kudos to him for creating and selling it.

 
Sebowski said:
I didn't read the in-game chatter. Am I the olbly one who thought Kane sold that thing more than it was an actual PK? I don't disagree with the call completely, but should be noted it was a total sell job. 
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Pretty sure Sinn agrees with you...

 
El Floppo said:
No-call until Sanchez jumps on his back for the piggy ride, imo.
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I Kane get behind that. 

BUT. After Harry hits him with that Bruce Smith level swim move, he never regains his balance. He's always going to ground from there and Sanchez is being careful not to use his arms at all. Then he jumps hypothetically for the ball and Kane goes down. 

 
Sebowski said:
I Kane get behind that. 

BUT. After Harry hits him with that Bruce Smith level swim move, he never regains his balance. He's always going to ground from there and Sanchez is being careful not to use his arms at all. Then he jumps hypothetically for the ball and Kane goes down. 
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I saw it as: swim, losing balance, gaining balance, dirty Sanchez piggy back, down goes Frasier.

 
What a team that was -  Totti, Del Piero, Pirlo, Cannavaro, Zambrotta, Buffon, Gattusso, etc. (No Vieri though). Fun fact that they actually were not the favorites in the semis or finals.

History smiles kindly upon he victors.

 
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