*Official 2020 Philadelphia Eagles Thread* Humanity will never recover from the most horrible event to happen in the last 100 years: Doug Pederson pla (1 Viewer)

[Bigboy10182000]

I was just looking over our schedule this year (I’m into pain I guess) and noticed that 3 of our 4 wins came against teams playing their back up QB. The other was a 22-21 win because Engram dropped a ball and we tied a rookie QB at home in his 3rd start. 

In 3 of the 4 wins we won by 5 or less. 

I didn’t think it was possible but this team is actually worse than I thought originally. This may be the worst team in franchise history. 

 

[Bigboy10182000]

 funny how everyone in the world thought it was a fumble, except those 3 officials and the league office. 

I thought it was a BS call until I watched the video. I also thought that was Hurts’ right knee down and not the defenders. I’d bet the masses thought the same as well. I know the broadcast team did. 

 

[Johnny Utah #9]

If Smith doesn’t play, your Iggles are gonna have to try extra hard to lose to my Skins next week. I’m talking Jets vs Raiders level of tanking.

Even if Smith plays he will be physically compromised, and he was barely marginal to begin with. Vegas is wise to have you guys as the favorites. You losing next week is a win/win. You get a better draft pick and we get our D some playoff experience. I sadly just don’t see it working out that way. And if Rivera makes the mistake of starting Trashkins again, you’ll run us out of the building.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

If Smith doesn’t play, your Iggles are gonna have to try extra hard to lose to my Skins next week. I’m talking Jets vs Raiders level of tanking.

Even if Smith plays he will be physically compromised, and he was barely marginal to begin with. Vegas is wise to have you guys as the favorites. You losing next week is a win/win. You get a better draft pick and we get our D some playoff experience. I sadly just don’t see it working out that way. And if Rivera makes the mistake of starting Trashkins again, you’ll run us out of the building.

We wouldn’t beat the Jets if we played them this week. 

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Eagles set to become UFAs: Peters, Mills, Sudfeld, Robey-Coleman, Curry, Ridgeway, LeBlanc, Rodgers, McGill, Riley, Clement, Perkins, Gerry and Ford

Maybe bring back Mills?

 

[Insein]

Eagles set to become UFAs: Peters, Mills, Sudfeld, Robey-Coleman, Curry, Ridgeway, LeBlanc, Rodgers, McGill, Riley, Clement, Perkins, Gerry and Ford

Maybe bring back Mills?

Yea that's about it. Even that's pushing it. We have almost no money. It's going to be rookies and UDFA filling the roster this year. 

 

[Bigboy10182000]

And man, if you don’t start a WR that we passed on or should have had you are crazy lol

After watching Hurts yesterday and seeing Lamb it’s just so typical for us

 

[Insein]

And man, if you don’t start a WR that we passed on or should have had you are crazy lol

After watching Hurts yesterday and seeing Lamb it’s just so typical for us

When was the last time we drafted a WR that panned out right away? Djax?

 

[Johnny Utah #9]

We wouldn’t beat the Jets if we played them this week. 

Well the Jets are red hot on a 2 game win streak so you might be right there.

I think you guys will show up next week. Coach and QB could be playing for their jobs. Skins are either starting a gimpy Smith on one leg or a practice squad QB signed like a week ago. And if Hurts gets the nod the Skins are terrible against mobile QBs.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

When was the last time we drafted a WR that panned out right away? Djax?

Him and Maclin were back to back years IIRC and it’s been an eternity before and after that. 

 

[need2know]

I was just looking over our schedule this year (I’m into pain I guess) and noticed that 3 of our 4 wins came against teams playing their back up QB. The other was a 22-21 win because Engram dropped a ball and we tied a rookie QB at home in his 3rd start. 

In 3 of the 4 wins we won by 5 or less. 

I didn’t think it was possible but this team is actually worse than I thought originally. This may be the worst team in franchise history. 

Hurts starting was the only thing remotely fun about the whole season.  And even that is not really great because our franchise qb is wrecked.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Well the Jets are red hot on a 2 game win streak so you might be right there.

I think you guys will show up next week. Coach and QB could be playing for their jobs. Skins are either starting a gimpy Smith on one leg or a practice squad QB signed like a week ago.

There’s no reason to show up. They’re officially eliminated now and I can’t see them risking injuries to the little bit of talent they have left. 

This game isn’t a deciding factor one way or the other for the coach or QB

 

[Johnny Utah #9]

There’s no reason to show up. They’re officially eliminated now and I can’t see them risking injuries to the little bit of talent they have left. 

This game isn’t a deciding factor one way or the other for the coach or QB

We’ll see I guess. The Panthers were eliminated and had nothing to play for either yesterday and they smashed my Skins by halftime.

 

[Insein]

Him and Maclin were back to back years IIRC and it’s been an eternity before and after that. 

Even Maclin took awhile to be good.

 

[Insein]

There’s no reason to show up. They’re officially eliminated now and I can’t see them risking injuries to the little bit of talent they have left. 

This game isn’t a deciding factor one way or the other for the coach or QB

There's 2 ways it could go. Eagles have no pressure now so the guys will show up "to prove" they're not bums. Or they pack it in because "for who, for what" when Free Agency is coming. 

 

[Pip's Invitation]

Him and Maclin were back to back years IIRC and it’s been an eternity before and after that. 

Even Mike Quick didn’t do much his first year. 

Calvin Williams maybe? He developed a rapport with Randall in TC and started right away.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

There's 2 ways it could go. Eagles have no pressure now so the guys will show up "to prove" they're not bums. Or they pack it in because "for who, for what" when Free Agency is coming. 

I was thinking that but they’re down to bare bones just about everywhere. I could do for 5-70-1 against this secondary lol

Ill have to see who’s out and inactive but right now I give us a .00001% chance to win. They’re motivated and we aren’t. Plus it’s a Ronald Darby revenge game lol

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Pederson: "You can't sit here and say it's been such a demise. This has been a strange year all around."

Pederson: "My confidence lies in myself. I know exactly how to get things fixed. We've won a lot of games around here..."

Doug Pederson mentions injuries as a reason for the team's disappointing results the last 3 seasons.

He's not wrong, to be clear. Personally, the belief is that the injuries were to be expected, based on the older roster the front office assembled and the injury-prone players they have wrongfully relied on.

Jordan Mailata is in concussion protocol after this dirty ### play

Pederson says the Eagles "have some great young players" who are "getting valuable opportunities."
"It's just unfortunate we keep losing these games," he said.

Doug Pederson: I want to be part of the process of player evaluation, but I don’t necessarily want to cross that line into making those decisions.

(Me: In other words, he doesn’t want to publicly make a power play for Howie Roseman’s job, which would surely expedite his firing.)

Doug said that his confidence that he will return as the team's head coach in 2021 is more a confidence in himself than it is as a result of any sort of conversation he has had with Jeffrey Lurie.

 

[Kiddnets]

Eagles need to resolve the Wentz situation sooner rather than later.....letting that drag out could torpedo next season as well as Hurts development....they need to either trade him or bite the bullet and cut him...they are paying Hurts so little its not awful.  

 

[Insein]

Eagles need to resolve the Wentz situation sooner rather than later.....letting that drag out could torpedo next season as well as Hurts development....they need to either trade him or bite the bullet and cut him...they are paying Hurts so little its not awful.  

I think they're both back after last night's game. It shows that it's not just a QB issue plaguing this team. 

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Eagles need to resolve the Wentz situation sooner rather than later.....letting that drag out could torpedo next season as well as Hurts development....they need to either trade him or bite the bullet and cut him...they are paying Hurts so little its not awful.  

You could deal Hurts quicker and get a better return in every way than dealing Wentz. If Wentz is as bad as one side thinks you’re still picking early enough to get a QB in 2022 and you can get out of the deal without so much cap ramifications and hopefully the cap rises again. 

 

[Kiddnets]

I think they're both back after last night's game. It shows that it's not just a QB issue plaguing this team. 

I agree its not just a QB issue but having both is a recipe for disaster IMO.  

 

[Kiddnets]

You could deal Hurts quicker and get a better return in every way than dealing Wentz. If Wentz is as bad as one side thinks you’re still picking early enough to get a QB in 2022 and you can get out of the deal without so much cap ramifications and hopefully the cap rises again. 

agreed but dont see them dealing Hurts....GMs that find a good QB in the 2d rd and later are loathe to deal them,...

I just saw Eagles are over the cap by $75M next year?  How is that possible?  I dont even see any crazy contracts besides Wentz and Lane Johnson to restructure....if Wentz wants to be a starter so bad maybe he'll agree to a restructure?  Tough situation....

 

[Insein]

I agree its not just a QB issue but having both is a recipe for disaster IMO.  

True. In which case I'd lean towards Hurts being gone. If someone offers a first, they'll take it and run. 

 

[Bigboy10182000]

agreed but dont see them dealing Hurts....GMs that find a good QB in the 2d rd and later are loathe to deal them,...

I just saw Eagles are over the cap by $75M next year?  How is that possible?  I dont even see any crazy contracts besides Wentz and Lane Johnson to restructure....if Wentz wants to be a starter so bad maybe he'll agree to a restructure?  Tough situation....

Depends on if they believe he’s good or not. Personally there’s not enough time or talent around him to tell but who knows. I agree with your overall message that one has to go. It’s a must. 

That’s the first year if Wentz’s extension. That’s a tough call to his agent lol. 

They just have to eat #### for a year and add as much young cheap talent as they can. It’s not gonna be easy. 

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Since Miles Sanders took over as RB1 Week 11 last year, he’s received 20 carries in just 2 out of 19 games

In those 2 games, he received 20 carries exactly

Miles Sanders is tied for 2nd among NFL RBs in yards per carry and has NEVER gotten 21 carries in a game

 

[Insein]

Since Miles Sanders took over as RB1 Week 11 last year, he’s received 20 carries in just 2 out of 19 games

In those 2 games, he received 20 carries exactly

Miles Sanders is tied for 2nd among NFL RBs in yards per carry and has NEVER gotten 21 carries in a game

It's absolutely criminal. I'd get a new coach just for this alone. What are they saving him for?

 

[Kiddnets]

Depends on if they believe he’s good or not. Personally there’s not enough time or talent around him to tell but who knows. I agree with your overall message that one has to go. It’s a must. 

That’s the first year if Wentz’s extension. That’s a tough call to his agent lol. 

They just have to eat #### for a year and add as much young cheap talent as they can. It’s not gonna be easy. 

I think they just tell Carson he needs to help with that contract if he wants to be a starter again....otherwise he can be the most expensive backup in the league the next 2 yrs....hes not going to want to lose 2 of him prime yrs...hes going to want to go and prove them wrong so its win.win

As for trading Hurts - I think hes shown enough to get a 1st for him but doubt they move him....Wentz is the one to go and they know it....they have to make it happen or 2021 will be an absolute mess in the locker room.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

I think they just tell Carson he needs to help with that contract if he wants to be a starter again....otherwise he can be the most expensive backup in the league the next 2 yrs....hes not going to want to lose 2 of him prime yrs...hes going to want to go and prove them wrong so its win.win

As for trading Hurts - I think hes shown enough to get a 1st for him but doubt they move him....Wentz is the one to go and they know it....they have to make it happen or 2021 will be an absolute mess in the locker room.

Threatening him with being a starter unless he “helps” with a restructure is about as poor of a way to handle that as I can imagine. They’re not going to be able to macho him into giving back millions he didn’t see yet so he can “prove people wrong.” The are in a no win scenario with him in negotiations. They have zero leverage. 

If Hurts ends up going 1-3 and continues to regress the locker room won’t be an issue. Foles won a SB and Wentz had an MVP type year. These are not similar situations. 

And if Hurts could get a one he’d be gone immediately. Have to give it more time but he may grade out even worse in this draft than last years compared to the QB’s coming out. 

 

[Insein]

Threatening him with being a starter unless he “helps” with a restructure is about as poor of a way to handle that as I can imagine. They’re not going to be able to macho him into giving back millions he didn’t see yet so he can “prove people wrong.” The are in a no win scenario with him in negotiations. They have zero leverage. 

If Hurts ends up going 1-3 and continues to regress the locker room won’t be an issue. Foles won a SB and Wentz had an MVP type year. These are not similar situations. 

And if Hurts could get a one he’d be gone immediately. Have to give it more time but he may grade out even worse in this draft than last years compared to the QB’s coming out. 

The most likely scenario is he settles into the backup role next year and learns the system better.  He continues to grow and bide his time. Maybe he ends up getting traded at some point to a desperate team in need of a quality young backup with potential. In the mean time he's a cheap backup that's better than Sudfeld. 

 

[Bigboy10182000]

The most likely scenario is he settles into the backup role next year and learns the system better.  He continues to grow and bide his time. Maybe he ends up getting traded at some point to a desperate team in need of a quality young backup with potential. In the mean time he's a cheap backup that's better than Sudfeld. 

I agree 100%.  The other issue is that assuming we keep Howie and Doug both would be on the hot seat without question.  Are you allowing them to try to move Wentz and take that kind of cap hit a year after investing that kind of money? HIs body of work is a good/great 3 years versus Hurts' 3 quarters.  I can't see how you can make a decision as big as letting Wentz go and take the cap hit and risk having to find another franchise QB.

 

[Kiddnets]

I agree 100%.  The other issue is that assuming we keep Howie and Doug both would be on the hot seat without question.  Are you allowing them to try to move Wentz and take that kind of cap hit a year after investing that kind of money? HIs body of work is a good/great 3 years versus Hurts' 3 quarters.  I can't see how you can make a decision as big as letting Wentz go and take the cap hit and risk having to find another franchise QB.

If thats the direction id be worried about disaster.....both QBs looking over their shoulder....fans will be back and chanting for Hurts at the first few bad passes by Wentz who has shown he cant handle it....I still think a clean break is best but I guess we'll see

 

[babydemon90]

True. In which case I'd lean towards Hurts being gone. If someone offers a first, they'll take it and run. 

100%. I doubt they do, but if they can get a 1st I take it quick as can be.

You'd need someone like the Steelers or Bucs to like him more then the QB's available at the bottom of the first this year.

 

[Deamon]

The most likely scenario is he settles into the backup role next year and learns the system better. 

Ugh.  I'm not sure how I'll be able to get through a season of casual football fans telling me that "they should be starting Hurts" after every loss next year.  The "you should have kept Foles" ones were bad enough.

 

[Insein]

Ugh.  I'm not sure how I'll be able to get through a season of casual football fans telling me that "they should be starting Hurts" after every loss next year.  The "you should have kept Foles" ones were bad enough.

I just ignore them or call them dumb if they say it to me in person. 

 

[Deamon]

If thats the direction id be worried about disaster.....both QBs looking over their shoulder....fans will be back and chanting for Hurts at the first few bad passes by Wentz who has shown he cant handle it....I still think a clean break is best but I guess we'll see

Well yes, that's obviously an issue.  It's why all of us (except for 2) are pissed about that Hurts pick... it's not good for anyone.

As for your suggestion that they may cut him, this isn't possible given his cap hit.

Give me a high 2nd rounder for Hurts (Lions?  Broncos?  Patriots?  Niners?) and everyone wins.  Howie can have his qb-factory trophy and say that he upgraded the pick, and we can be done with this.

 

[Kiddnets]

Well yes, that's obviously an issue.  It's why all of us (except for 2) are pissed about that Hurts pick... it's not good for anyone.

As for your suggestion that they may cut him, this isn't possible given his cap hit.

Give me a high 2nd rounder for Hurts (Lions?  Broncos?  Patriots?  Niners?) and everyone wins.  Howie can have his qb-factory trophy and say that he upgraded the pick, and we can be done with this.

I agree with all of this.....even if they loved Hurts it just created drama when it wasnt necessary....reminds me to a lesser degree of when the Jets brought in Tebow....it crushed Sanchez's confidence and created a QB issue every week....now Sanchez (and Wentz) should be above that but they just arent....nothing good comes out of it....

Looking at the numbers I agree its going to be very tough to move on from Wentz....Hurts much easier but I think GM ego will not allow them to deal Hurts....I see this ending badly.  

 

[DJackson10]

Eagles set to become UFAs: Peters, Mills, Sudfeld, Robey-Coleman, Curry, Ridgeway, LeBlanc, Rodgers, McGill, Riley, Clement, Perkins, Gerry and Ford

Maybe bring back Mills?

Mills I'd probably keep around. Riley they seem to like on Special teams along with Ford and both maybe come back on cheap deals? Other then that let the rest god. Robey-Coleman was pretty unimpressive. Maybe Clement unless you can find a better option for cheaper. The rest can pound sand but that might be asking Gerry too much 

 

[DJackson10]

When was the last time we drafted a WR that panned out right away? Djax?

Yep he was the last one and we managed to let him go for nothing all because a certain head coach didn't like him. 

 

[DJackson10]

Pederson: "You can't sit here and say it's been such a demise. This has been a strange year all around."

Pederson: "My confidence lies in myself. I know exactly how to get things fixed. We've won a lot of games around here..."

Doug Pederson mentions injuries as a reason for the team's disappointing results the last 3 seasons.

He's not wrong, to be clear. Personally, the belief is that the injuries were to be expected, based on the older roster the front office assembled and the injury-prone players they have wrongfully relied on.

Jordan Mailata is in concussion protocol after this dirty ### play

Pederson says the Eagles "have some great young players" who are "getting valuable opportunities."
"It's just unfortunate we keep losing these games," he said.

Doug Pederson: I want to be part of the process of player evaluation, but I don’t necessarily want to cross that line into making those decisions.

(Me: In other words, he doesn’t want to publicly make a power play for Howie Roseman’s job, which would surely expedite his firing.)

Doug said that his confidence that he will return as the team's head coach in 2021 is more a confidence in himself than it is as a result of any sort of conversation he has had with Jeffrey Lurie.

Smith should have a lighter pocket after this week then. Don't expect anything less from Cowgirls 

 

[DJackson10]

Eagles need to resolve the Wentz situation sooner rather than later.....letting that drag out could torpedo next season as well as Hurts development....they need to either trade him or bite the bullet and cut him...they are paying Hurts so little its not awful.  

Did you see how Hurts played yesterday? Just a reminder we need to keep Wentz. Hopefully some team loses a QB similar to the Minny/Bridgewater situation and gets desperate and wants to give us something valuable for Hurts. Wentz isn't going anywhere next year. 

 

[DJackson10]

I think they just tell Carson he needs to help with that contract if he wants to be a starter again....otherwise he can be the most expensive backup in the league the next 2 yrs....hes not going to want to lose 2 of him prime yrs...hes going to want to go and prove them wrong so its win.win

As for trading Hurts - I think hes shown enough to get a 1st for him but doubt they move him....Wentz is the one to go and they know it....they have to make it happen or 2021 will be an absolute mess in the locker room.

You really want to make this worse? Threatening him does very little. It doesn't help what is already a rocky relationship with a player that feels like he was stabbed in the back by the very organization and lied too. 

The locker room was a mess because of people Like ALshon being a little   going to his reporter GF and talking smack on his said starter and not being a man about. Then the Team keeping said player rather then eating the money and cutting him. Mack Hollins was another mouth and they were able to get rid of him easier as he was on a rookie deal. Hurts hasn't shown anything yet to say he's a must keep either. We root for a team who's seen a ton of QBs look good in year 1 or 2 or both and then fall flat off the earth. Difference with Wentz is he's incredible more talented then every single on of those guys. If the Eagles can take a 1st for Hurts I wouldn't even blink. I'd be incredible happy. Let some other team deal the project QB. Maybe the Eagles get lucky and it's a 1st rounder then ends up a top 10-15 pick the next year. 

 

[DJackson10]

Threatening him with being a starter unless he “helps” with a restructure is about as poor of a way to handle that as I can imagine. They’re not going to be able to macho him into giving back millions he didn’t see yet so he can “prove people wrong.” The are in a no win scenario with him in negotiations. They have zero leverage. 

If Hurts ends up going 1-3 and continues to regress the locker room won’t be an issue. Foles won a SB and Wentz had an MVP type year. These are not similar situations. 

And if Hurts could get a one he’d be gone immediately. Have to give it more time but he may grade out even worse in this draft than last years compared to the QB’s coming out. 

I think I'd take Trask/Lance/Wilson/Lawerence and Last years #1 Burrow off the top of my head before I even considered Hurts. We all know he was a reach in the 2nd round and a unneeded reach at that. 

 

[DJackson10]

Ugh.  I'm not sure how I'll be able to get through a season of casual football fans telling me that "they should be starting Hurts" after every loss next year.  The "you should have kept Foles" ones were bad enough.

I posted the breakdown of halfs for Hurts that Big has been kind to keep update yesterday to someone who thought Hurts was "ready" to start. The person said he was ready and I told them to look at the stats I just posted. She told me she didn't need to look at them. The worst part is I've already seen and heard people make the excuses for Hurts they told all of us weren't excuses for Wentz yesterday. They just don't know when to quit. Forget who said it yesterday but these people aren't really fans. Just casuals who want an excuse to go party and brag about the teams success like they were part of the team and always want to be the I told you so crowd. 

 

[DJackson10]

I just ignore them or call them dumb if they say it to me in person. 

I wish I could say this to people at work but most of those are customers and it'd probably get me in trouble because you know got to be "customer friendly". 

 

[DJackson10]

I agree with all of this.....even if they loved Hurts it just created drama when it wasnt necessary....reminds me to a lesser degree of when the Jets brought in Tebow....it crushed Sanchez's confidence and created a QB issue every week....now Sanchez (and Wentz) should be above that but they just arent....nothing good comes out of it....

Looking at the numbers I agree its going to be very tough to move on from Wentz....Hurts much easier but I think GM ego will not allow them to deal Hurts....I see this ending badly.  

Are you really comparing this to that? Sanchez was pretty terrible who's weaknesses were hidden by a great oline/run game and great defense. If Tebow was causing him issues maybe Sanchez should've thought about a different career path. And I'm saying this as the biggest Tebow/Florida fan on this board. 

Wentz is a lot better then Sanchez and Hurts is a bit better then Tebow but I wouldn't call Hurts the second coming of Joe Montana either. I think it was more it just PO'd Wentz they'd get a QB that early. Doesn't matter who the QB is you just extended the dude and you draft a QB the next year with a day 2 pick? That wouldn't go over well with any player. Heck Tom Brady Ripped Bill and Kraft a new one for drafting Jimmy G. 

 

[Babooya]

Couple different ways to look at it. If the OL was healthy Wentz wouldn’t have looked like that. Give him the job next year until he shows he’s the same guy with a good OL. Corollary is that Wentz has proven that he is a bad QB under pressure. He may be a great QB unpressured but playoff games are won and lost by under duress throws and decision making. 
 

I agree w DJax that who knows what you have with Hurts. He was more effective in a bad situation. Might be a great time to sell high, might be a better option than Wentz.

I think this goes into 21 season, you know Hurts will mentally embrace it being it’s a reverse redux of his college career. And the report is that Wentz doesn’t want to accept the challenge. I think one will be traded but it will be mid or post season next year 

 

[Kiddnets]

Are you really comparing this to that? Sanchez was pretty terrible who's weaknesses were hidden by a great oline/run game and great defense. If Tebow was causing him issues maybe Sanchez should've thought about a different career path. And I'm saying this as the biggest Tebow/Florida fan on this board. 

Wentz is a lot better then Sanchez and Hurts is a bit better then Tebow but I wouldn't call Hurts the second coming of Joe Montana either. I think it was more it just PO'd Wentz they'd get a QB that early. Doesn't matter who the QB is you just extended the dude and you draft a QB the next year with a day 2 pick? That wouldn't go over well with any player. Heck Tom Brady Ripped Bill and Kraft a new one for drafting Jimmy G. 

.obviously Wentz has a better resume but Sanchez did take the Jets to back to back championship games...and while Tebow wasnt a great QB his popularity was ridiculous so it became a circus.....

Look at Rodgers - he was furious that GB spent a 1st rd pick on a QB....so he went out and played at an MVP level.  I guess some take it better.....Wentz doesnt seem to be taking it as well.... wait until a stadium full of Eagle fans start booing and chanting for Hurts after Wentz;s 1st int.  If you cant deal/cut Wentz then I think Hurts should go....just think its going to be an impossible situation.  

 

[Kiddnets]

Couple different ways to look at it. If the OL was healthy Wentz wouldn’t have looked like that. Give him the job next year until he shows he’s the same guy with a good OL. Corollary is that Wentz has proven that he is a bad QB under pressure. He may be a great QB unpressured but playoff games are won and lost by under duress throws and decision making. 
 

I agree w DJax that who knows what you have with Hurts. He was more effective in a bad situation. Might be a great time to sell high, might be a better option than Wentz.

I think this goes into 21 season, you know Hurts will mentally embrace it being it’s a reverse redux of his college career. And the report is that Wentz doesn’t want to accept the challenge. I think one will be traded but it will be mid or post season next year 

I watched a lot of Eagles games and Wentz was getting crushed almost every play he dropped back....not to mention the coaches never seemed to adjust....Hurts may not be the better QB but he is better equipped to play behind a bad OL like you said....with that cap situation I cant see them fixing the OL through FA....maybe a T with that top 10 pick?  

 

[Insein]

So the excuse some are making on the radio is that during Carson's 12 games he played the offense was only averaging 4.8 yards per play and Hurts is averaging 6.5 yard per play since he took over. That has to be the dumbest argument I've ever heard. Not just the smaller sample size but the different defenses, oline combinations and playcalling over the course of 12 games to cumulatively rattle Carson compared to 3 so far for Hurts. Not to mention the key difference; averaging 171 yards rushing per game these last 3 weeks compared to 116 for all of Carson's games. 

Some people have an agenda to push and they aren't very subtle about it.