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Official 2022 Atlantic Hurricane Thread (2 Viewers)
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Osaurus
Footballguy
Can’t wait to see you on cam on DuvalHeading to Key West for a 50th Bday party on Fri mid-day...
Leeroy Jenkins
Footballguy
I am supposed to be in Naples, FL next week . . . .
The Big Donkey
Footballguy
argh, definitely looks like Nicole wants a large piece of Florida. from what i've seen, not a huge rainmaker but the wind field is very wide. stocked up at Publix this morning. Full moon is tomorrow, surge may be a problem when this hits.
It should be fairly weak by the time it gets to Naples. It’ll have to cross the state after making landfall in Miami/Fort Lauderdale area. Probably just be a few inches of rain and gusty wind for SWFL.
rustycolts
Footballguy
Dammit man.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
Heading out to a conference in Orlando tomorrow. Question probably going to be more about whether able to fly back Thursday night as scheduled.
The Commish
Footballguy
seriously
Osaurus
Footballguy
I would say chances are good if on the later side. I think there might be delays, but I don't think there are going to be tons of cancellations unless this thing is way worse than what is being forecasted.
The Commish
Footballguy
Need the intercoastal to suck this thing north please...TIA
Sand
Footballguy
Katrina went from a medium storm to a monster in 24 hours. This isn't atypical.
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It is for this time of year and the location. Katrina was in the Gulf in the dead of summer, this one is over cooler water in November.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
Y'all be safe down there. It looks like a lot of rain in the mid-South along the Smokeys and Blue Ridge (where I live), which isn't good because there are a ton of small flat bridges crossing the rivers and creeks. That runoff funnels down and the bridges will flood quickly.
culdeus
Footballguy
I’m on the Treasure Coast as well, it’s going to be windy
JShare87
Footballguy
For sure. I think this one caught a lot of people by surprise and is going to be a bit worse than anticipated.
I don’t think it’ll be too bad, I’ll probably miss work Thursday, but even that’s up in the air, depending on how quickly it moves out.
Update from in the path of Nicole: I’m getting ready to start work for the day, it’s indoor work, making up receptacles and lights and stuff. It’s been windy since yesterday, now the rain is coming ashore, but it’s not dumping buckets. Conditions are probably going to deteriorate as the day goes on, and it might be a Cat 1 as soon as the 7am update, and the last map had it coming ashore pretty much right over my house. Still, it’s not very strong, and my house is sturdy and boarded up on the high windows, so we should be fine.
Funny side note: I’ve been trying to finish up the solar inspections to get my system up and running, all I need is the local utility to inspect it, and then it can get turned on. Yesterday I got an email saying they’re processing the application, which is cool, but unhelpful if/when I lose power, which has happened twice since the system was installed and I could do squat about it.
Funny side note: I’ve been trying to finish up the solar inspections to get my system up and running, all I need is the local utility to inspect it, and then it can get turned on. Yesterday I got an email saying they’re processing the application, which is cool, but unhelpful if/when I lose power, which has happened twice since the system was installed and I could do squat about it.
If it can pick up the pythons instead and get rid of them, I’d be happy with that.
Senor Schmutzig
Footballguy
Grey and breezy in Miami. For some dumb reason, the public schools are closed.
Yes, but not the local community college, where I'm an adjunct, or FIU. Depending on rain and street flooding, there could be lots of no-shows in my class tonight. Right now in the beach area, there's a strong band of showers with a training effect.
Beach erosion has been bad this summer and will get worse with Nicole. See the threat to oceanfront condos and a swimming pool in Daytona.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
In Orlando for conference. Folks with earlier flights tomorrow have had those cancelled, but my flight tomorrow night is still on so far. Fingers crossed — if not, I may be stuck here for a few days as I understand flights on Friday are pretty booked.
ETA: And flight just got cancelled.
Now taking an Uber to the Tampa airport tomorrow night -- let's hope that expense goes through. 
ETA: And flight just got cancelled.
Now taking an Uber to the Tampa airport tomorrow night -- let's hope that expense goes through.
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King tides peaked yesterday and are diminishing today. Speaking of king tides, we at the low point of an 18.5 year lunar cycle; when it starts going up in a few years and peaks in 2035, that's another 2 inches added to sea level, on top of that attributed to global warming. It's a slow death for many coastal communities in Florida.
Daytona Beach Shores police evacuating structures deemed unsafe due to Nicole erosion.
>>On Wednesday afternoon, Daytona Beach Shores police began evacuating more structures that have been deemed unsafe due to further erosion from Tropical Storm Nicole, which is still miles off land.
Among the complexes were Twin Towers, St. Kitt's, Marbella, Pirates Cove and Sunglow Resort.
Officials say most had previous damage from Hurricane Ian but are now far more jeopardized by Nicole and there is risk of collapse. Officials say 11 condo/hotel properties in city have been deemed unsafe to occupy.
Deputies are going door to door to help evacuate about 150 residents.<<
I stayed at Pirates Cove about 20 years ago when we did a time share promotion.
>>On Wednesday afternoon, Daytona Beach Shores police began evacuating more structures that have been deemed unsafe due to further erosion from Tropical Storm Nicole, which is still miles off land.
Among the complexes were Twin Towers, St. Kitt's, Marbella, Pirates Cove and Sunglow Resort.
Officials say most had previous damage from Hurricane Ian but are now far more jeopardized by Nicole and there is risk of collapse. Officials say 11 condo/hotel properties in city have been deemed unsafe to occupy.
Deputies are going door to door to help evacuate about 150 residents.<<
I stayed at Pirates Cove about 20 years ago when we did a time share promotion.
Grahamburn
Footballguy
Pretty windy. Gusts around 50+
Getting ready to head into work.
Getting ready to head into work.
The major impact has been beach erosion from Miami up to Daytona and beyond. And power outages. I wonder if that swimming pool is still at risk of becoming an infinity pool in Daytona Shores where 11 condos and hotels were evacuated due to concerns of collapsing.
Foam at Daytona Beach: https://twitter.com/RobertRayWx/status/1590647447243853826?t=DfC76xkus5wZXbejMpnY2A&s=19
Foam at Daytona Beach: https://twitter.com/RobertRayWx/status/1590647447243853826?t=DfC76xkus5wZXbejMpnY2A&s=19
The Commish
Footballguy
The buildings are literally leaning towards the ocean and people still refuse to leave some of the buildings.
beer 30
Footballguy
I spent a few summers in the Grand Coquina for family vacations. That's a lot of erosion.The buildings are literally leaning towards the ocean and people still refuse to leave some of the buildings.
One community of ocean-front SFHs in the Daytona area is at risk due to beach erosion. One of the pioneers of Miami Beach was philosophically opposed to building directly on the beach, hence there is Ocean Drive separating hotels and condos from the beach for 16 blocks. Further north is the where the ocean-front Champlain Towers South collapsed. Chicago has a similar concept with Lake Drive. In Brazil, IIRC, there is a law that states buildings must have a road between them and the beach.
VIDEO: Wilbur-by-the-Sea home collapses into ocean after Nicole strikes Florida
VIDEO: Wilbur-by-the-Sea home collapses into ocean after Nicole strikes Florida
Call for building evacuations in Daytona Shores. Now they're going door-to-door to force evacuation. I'm guessing this is Pirates Cove hotel (good memories 20 years ago with ex and kids) and the 2 nearby condos. The sand dunes have been compromised and water may be going under the buildings. The pilings likely are still providing support but I'm no engineer. After the Champlain towers collapse, there's more caution.
Don Quixote
Footballguy
I was far away from landfall, but not too bad where I was in Orlando. Wind gusts woke me up during the night, and would not have wanted to be outside at 5am, but could have been worse. Just did an Uber drive from Orlando to Tampa and did not see any damage along the highway and driver remarked how little traffic there was (wasn’t expecting any damage, but sharing the info anyway).
My flight from Tampa tonight still showing up on time — currently having a beer at the Cigar City Taproom at Tampa airport (maybe a bank error in my favor).
My flight from Tampa tonight still showing up on time — currently having a beer at the Cigar City Taproom at Tampa airport (maybe a bank error in my favor).
Those houses should have never been built there. You can tell that the dirt was brought in and then they built homes where you shouldn't. The older retaining walls collapsed. If there was no retaining wall, It just dug until it got to the house. Many of those will lose the house and the land. Those on the otehr side of A1a now have a view of the ocean.
See the blue roof house at 6:58. Look at all the black dirt they brought in to build up that house.
Apparently they built that whole area up. Only a matter of time before the sea was going to take it back
See the blue roof house at 6:58. Look at all the black dirt they brought in to build up that house.
Apparently they built that whole area up. Only a matter of time before the sea was going to take it back
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Ron Swanson
Footballguy
Easy to say now but that house was likely built back in the 50's or 60's. They thought the seawall was adequate protection.
UOFI_316
Footballguy
Because I never want to actually work, I spent way too much time trying to locate these houses. The blue roof on dirt was built in 1980, the turquoise roof next door was 1950. So it is possible the blue roof was a tear down and rebuild and that is why it is the only one with dirt instead of sand. There are google street view images down the beach from 2013 and there are barely any seawalls visible. I assume some had them but they were below the top of the sand. In the drone video, all the concrete seawalls you see are not visible in the 2013 views. In the drone there is the remnants of some steel sheet piling being used as a seawall in front of the blue roof house, but it is odd how there are so many missing section in it, yet the pieces that remain are still vertical. For the house 2 doors north, in the streetview image there are only 4 steps visible to get from the top of their seawall down to sand, in the drone there are at least 11 and the top of the wall looks like the same elevation. Did the ocean really erode 4' of sand over the last 10 years? Were the stairs always that height and the city built up the beach at some point so this is just the ocean returning things to their original elevation?
Either way, sucks to own the houses and like you said odds are the owners all thought they were more than protected.
culdeus
Footballguy
Not sure why the houses built on dirt are getting more scrutiny. It seems really unlikely that huge sections of the front row will survive this built on sand or not. Hell, some of them were built on what appear to be boulders brought in. What the hell must that have cost?
