Official 2022 college football thread: its conference realignment season. (2 Viewers)

[Capella]

Drake May offered $5M to transfer by two schools

Time to blow it all up.

why?

Why not?

People who provide a valued service should be paid for it, no?

The networks aren't shelling out billions to broadcast the coaches....hell yes the players should get paid. They have been for decades; we're just now legitimizing it and paying them their true worth.

The whole system is still a mess. Players should get paid but there should be a way to maintain team loyalty/cohesion. Sign them to two or three year contracts or something.

Sure, as soon as the coaches commit to the same.

 

[Tom Servo]

Not sure what high end NIL deals are. I do know that Bama deals avg $100k. But Bryce was $1m (post enrollment). The big Miami booster is rumored to be spending up to $1m per for several in a class, but I don’t think he’s publicly admitted more that about $700k.

Somewhere, Luther Campbell is silently weeping somewhere.

 

[Moe.]

After all this I’ll be shocked if Bowen ends up being good

 

[whoknew]

Drake May offered $5M to transfer by two schools

Time to blow it all up.

why?

Why not?

People who provide a valued service should be paid for it, no?

The networks aren't shelling out billions to broadcast the coaches....hell yes the players should get paid. They have been for decades; we're just now legitimizing it and paying them their true worth.

The whole system is still a mess. Players should get paid but there should be a way to maintain team loyalty/cohesion. Sign them to two or three year contracts or something.

All they have to do is admit they are employees and sign a CBA. Doesn’t seem they want to do that though.

 

[Capella]

Drake May offered $5M to transfer by two schools

Time to blow it all up.

why?

Why not?

People who provide a valued service should be paid for it, no?

The networks aren't shelling out billions to broadcast the coaches....hell yes the players should get paid. They have been for decades; we're just now legitimizing it and paying them their true worth.

The whole system is still a mess. Players should get paid but there should be a way to maintain team loyalty/cohesion. Sign them to two or three year contracts or something.

All they have to do is admit they are employees and sign a CBA. Doesn’t seem they want to do that though.

Why would they do that?

 

[SHIZNITTTT]

RIP Oregon commitment 12.21.22-12.22.22

 

[whoknew]

Drake May offered $5M to transfer by two schools

Time to blow it all up.

why?

Why not?

People who provide a valued service should be paid for it, no?

The networks aren't shelling out billions to broadcast the coaches....hell yes the players should get paid. They have been for decades; we're just now legitimizing it and paying them their true worth.

The whole system is still a mess. Players should get paid but there should be a way to maintain team loyalty/cohesion. Sign them to two or three year contracts or something.

All they have to do is admit they are employees and sign a CBA. Doesn’t seem they want to do that though.

Why would they do that?

If they want to limit transfers and have players have to stay at a university for a few years, that seems like the way to go about it. Get the athletes under contract.

 

[Capella]

Drake May offered $5M to transfer by two schools

Time to blow it all up.

why?

Why not?

People who provide a valued service should be paid for it, no?

The networks aren't shelling out billions to broadcast the coaches....hell yes the players should get paid. They have been for decades; we're just now legitimizing it and paying them their true worth.

The whole system is still a mess. Players should get paid but there should be a way to maintain team loyalty/cohesion. Sign them to two or three year contracts or something.

All they have to do is admit they are employees and sign a CBA. Doesn’t seem they want to do that though.

Why would they do that?

If they want to limit transfers and have players have to stay at a university for a few years, that seems like the way to go about it. Get the athletes under contract.

But the athletes would have to agree. Why would they.

 

[Ramblin Wreck]

Drake May offered $5M to transfer by two schools

Time to blow it all up.

why?

Why not?

People who provide a valued service should be paid for it, no?

The networks aren't shelling out billions to broadcast the coaches....hell yes the players should get paid. They have been for decades; we're just now legitimizing it and paying them their true worth.

The whole system is still a mess. Players should get paid but there should be a way to maintain team loyalty/cohesion. Sign them to two or three year contracts or something.

All they have to do is admit they are employees and sign a CBA. Doesn’t seem they want to do that though.

Why would they do that?

If they want to limit transfers and have players have to stay at a university for a few years, that seems like the way to go about it. Get the athletes under contract.

But the athletes would have to agree. Why would they.

Why do NFL players agree?

 

[Jayded]

Bowen doing his best Roy Kent impression- He’s here, he’s there……

 

[WDIK2]

13 Degrees in Fort Worth for this bowl game. What is the O/U?

 

[Osaurus]

Baylor 3 and out. They look frozen.

 

[Schmeabs]

RIP Oregon commitment 12.21.22-12.22.22

I guess he will just portal to Oregon next year after he breaks up with his girlfriend.

 

[Osaurus]

Anyone headed to the Gasparilla Bowl tonight? If so, bring a parka

 

[Tom Servo]

Paul Zeise- If college players don’t care about bowl games, why should we?

 

[gump]

These games are an opp to win Holiday money...i've bet against UF and Baylor so far...against Mizzou and Pitt now?

 

[Capella]

Anyone headed to the Gasparilla Bowl tonight? If so, bring a parka

Almost bought tickets because you could get club for 50 bucks. Realized that was still a waste of money though.

 

[dickey moe]

Drake May offered $5M to transfer by two schools

Time to blow it all up.

why?

Why not?

People who provide a valued service should be paid for it, no?

The networks aren't shelling out billions to broadcast the coaches....hell yes the players should get paid. They have been for decades; we're just now legitimizing it and paying them their true worth.

The whole system is still a mess. Players should get paid but there should be a way to maintain team loyalty/cohesion. Sign them to two or three year contracts or something.

Why? Coaches have no loyalty. Why should players be forced into that?

I wish coaching loyalty could be enhanced more also in some way. Do you think this arrangement is good in the long run for college football?

 

[General Malaise]

Drake May offered $5M to transfer by two schools

Time to blow it all up.

why?

Why not?

People who provide a valued service should be paid for it, no?

The networks aren't shelling out billions to broadcast the coaches....hell yes the players should get paid. They have been for decades; we're just now legitimizing it and paying them their true worth.

The whole system is still a mess. Players should get paid but there should be a way to maintain team loyalty/cohesion. Sign them to two or three year contracts or something.

Why? Coaches have no loyalty. Why should players be forced into that?

I wish coaching loyalty could be enhanced more also in some way. Do you think this arrangement is good in the long run for college football?

I don't know if it's good or not good as the sample size is far too small to make a long run prediction - at least it is for me. I'd much rather have the payments to players made out in the open vs the past 'system' of bag men, clandestine payments, bogus recruiters and violations where teams got punished. This is way better IMO.

I don't think the on-field product has suffered. Games are great, ratings are high and we're getting more playoff teams soon. The fact that players can now transfer around absent penalty bothers me not at all. They should have the same flexibility to switch schools that coaches do.

I mean, this is college. You were just renting players for a few years anyway. Now we can pay them, let them move around, try and better their futures....those are good things! IMO.

Nothing and I mean nothing pissed me off more than sanctimonious coaches preaching loyalty and being heavy handed with transfers when they were free to come and go as they pleased without any tongue lashings or penalties. Total f'n BS.

 

[Capella]

you think this arrangement is good in the long run for college football?

It’s better than the last system where school administrators, coaches and…bowl officials for some reason got filthy rich off the backs of the players. Now the players have freedom to move and get paid. Hell yea it’s a good thing.

 

[General Malaise]

I still have yet to watch more than maybe 10 minutes of bowl action so far this season. Just no interest. We got anything today? Maybe I'll gamble.

 

[facook]

I still have yet to watch more than maybe 10 minutes of bowl action so far this season. Just no interest. We got anything today? Maybe I'll gamble.

Wake/Mizz this afternoon should be fun. Hartman's last game at Wake.

 

[gump]

I still have yet to watch more than maybe 10 minutes of bowl action so far this season. Just no interest. We got anything today? Maybe I'll gamble.

Wake/Mizz this afternoon should be fun. Hartman's last game at Wake.

I'm 7 miles north of stadium...it'll be dark and clear by then, with temps dipping below 50, feeling much colder...no issue there other than the FL-based fans...but winds will be blustery around 20 MPH...

 

[Jayded]

Maybe the transfer portal finally is a death knell to the bowl bloat.

It certainly creates an interesting dichotomy - kids bust their backsides all year and for especially those not turning pro, get one more chance at swag/fun. On the other hand we berate coaches for poor bowl performance when they might lose key assets to the NFL/transfer portal.

I’m really curious if we’ll eventually see a playoff bound team with an NFL stud opting out. When we get to 12 teams, I’ll bet it happens and fans/media will lose it.

 

[Instinctive]

You would think there are some easy fixes here:

1. Standardize NIL contracts with a few clauses about money forfeiture on transfer and such until you have the balance you want of transfer chaos and incentive to stay put
2. Add in clauses about extra $$ for the bowl game or backload the payment or something
3. Move the stupid transfer window period thing to late January after the bowl season

 

[Tom Servo]

Maybe the transfer portal finally is a death knell to the bowl bloat.

It certainly creates an interesting dichotomy - kids bust their backsides all year and for especially those not turning pro, get one more chance at swag/fun. On the other hand we berate coaches for poor bowl performance when they might lose key assets to the NFL/transfer portal.

I’m really curious if we’ll eventually see a playoff bound team with an NFL stud opting out. When we get to 12 teams, I’ll bet it happens and fans/media will lose it.

I'd really like to see like 25% of the bowls culled from the herd. Every edition of the Bahamas Bowl I've seen never has enough fans to start a good bar fight. Show more Australian Rules Football rather than some dumb bowl with 40 fans watching two 6-5 teams play.

 

[Capella]

Standardize NIL contracts with a few clauses about money forfeiture on transfer and such until you have the balance you want of transfer chaos and incentive to stay put

No.

 

[facook]

I still have yet to watch more than maybe 10 minutes of bowl action so far this season. Just no interest. We got anything today? Maybe I'll gamble.

Wake/Mizz this afternoon should be fun. Hartman's last game at Wake.

I'm 7 miles north of stadium...it'll be dark and clear by then, with temps dipping below 50, feeling much colder...no issue there other than the FL-based fans...but winds will be blustery around 20 MPH...

You end up putting money on Wake?

 

[culdeus]

Dozens of people at these bowls.

 

[gump]

I still have yet to watch more than maybe 10 minutes of bowl action so far this season. Just no interest. We got anything today? Maybe I'll gamble.

Wake/Mizz this afternoon should be fun. Hartman's last game at Wake.

I'm 7 miles north of stadium...it'll be dark and clear by then, with temps dipping below 50, feeling much colder...no issue there other than the FL-based fans...but winds will be blustery around 20 MPH...

You end up putting money on Wake?

I did…a couple of units…and UCLA (but not counting chickens)

 

[gump]

Dozens of people at these bowls.

Man it’s arctic in Tampa!

 

[facook]

I still have yet to watch more than maybe 10 minutes of bowl action so far this season. Just no interest. We got anything today? Maybe I'll gamble.

Wake/Mizz this afternoon should be fun. Hartman's last game at Wake.

I'm 7 miles north of stadium...it'll be dark and clear by then, with temps dipping below 50, feeling much colder...no issue there other than the FL-based fans...but winds will be blustery around 20 MPH...

You end up putting money on Wake?

I did…a couple of units…and UCLA (but not counting chickens)

Same. Lots of game left.

One of the smartest plays I've ever seen just now on the WF punt. Defender saw that the returner was coming to pick up the ball and run...and dove in such a way as to basically take the ball away as soon as the returner touched it. Man, just brilliant.

 

[facook]

Just heard a rumor of Sam Hartman, if he skips the draft one more year and takes NIL money....may choose Notre Dame. @Jayded Seems exciting for the Irish.

 

[Jayded]

Just heard a rumor of Sam Hartman, if he skips the draft one more year and takes NIL money....may choose Notre Dame. @Jayded Seems exciting for the Irish.

Yup the buzz past two days has been he’s the reason they waited vs pursuing other transfers like Leary.

Seems like it’d be a really solid fit for both sides if he doesn’t try for the NFL. Withholding full enthusiasm until it actually materializes, but I’d definitely be happy to have him as a bridge to Minchey/Carr.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Old enough to remember when the the NCAA was so arrogant in its high and mighty ivory tower it would make kids sit out an entire year if they wanted to change schools, robbing them of a full year of eligibility at the height of their athletic career. Wait … that’s still the rule and is still routinely applied to NCAA athletes every year! The absolute arrogance of these pricks is astonishing. They earn a billion dollars from the basketball tournament but tell a kid he can’t play because he wants to move to a different school.

We’re on the doorstep of doing away with all eligibility restrictions and I’m all for it. What right do they have to tell an athlete he can only play 4 years, cant sell his own signature or has to maintain a certain grade point? There’s no reason they should even be allowed to force these kids to be enrolled. If Alabama wants to pay a kid $200k to play football, what’s the point of maintaining the charade of his status as a student? If a kid wants to go to class as well as play football that’s his choice and good for him but no reason to force it on these athletes as a condition of being on the team.

 

[gump]

3-0 on Operation Opt-Out…let’s keep it going @facook !

 

[Instinctive]

Standardize NIL contracts with a few clauses about money forfeiture on transfer and such until you have the balance you want of transfer chaos and incentive to stay put

No.

Porque?

You're telling me it's better to have a ton of guys get re-recruited every offseason? Just make it go ahead and look more like pro sports, where every league has a standard contract.

 

[Jayded]

The only nuance I'd say is previously the kids were getting shafted and now it's swung too far the other one. Some slight adjustments I see that might be a happy middle ground to what we're seeing;

1. If YOUR coach leaves, you have a right to transfer in the immediate next window, but only that window, without penalty
1a. You get one transfer without penalty, but two and beyond carries a year to sit out

I'm on the fence about having to sit out and whether the 1a above should be for everyone or just those who lose their coaches. I was fine with OU guys following Riley because that was a breaking change to them (let's be real...they went there for Riley) but that's different than Deion raiding all other D1 programs right now. In my example, Jackson State kids can follow him without penalty, but other programs' kids must sit a year before they'd be eligible.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Well its Boxing Day and that can only mean one thing - the 2022 Quick Lane Bowl is upon us. This game advertises itself as featuring a Big Ten team against a MAC team. They got 6-6 Bowling Green (3rd place MAC east division) but couldn't sign a Big Ten team for the third straight year, so brought in 6-6 independent New Mexico St. Should be a barn-burner in Detroit today.

 

[culdeus]

Where was the link about the numbers of these kids moving and losing their scholarship for academic reasons? Is the nil basically stepping in to smooth those bumps and this is why so much movement?

 

[facook]

Where was the link about the numbers of these kids moving and losing their scholarship for academic reasons? Is the nil basically stepping in to smooth those bumps and this is why so much movement?

NCAA: 40 percent of scholarship FBS players do not find scholarships on the other side of the transfer portal

Ahead of the transfer portal deadline, the NCAA has released some numbers proving that transferring is a risky move for most FBS football players.

footballscoop.com

 

[facook]

Bowling Green is garbage.

 

[Desert_Power]

Bowling Green is garbage.

We've got a ballgame though. Not a good ballgame, but a close one!

 

[facook]

Bowling Green is garbage.

We've got a ballgame though. Not a good ballgame, but a close one!

BG was so surprised the NMS try-hard QB (did you hear he was an all-state high school wrestler?) kept running, they couldn't stop it once on the last drive. Can you tell which team I picked in my bowl pool?

 

[Tom Servo]

If SEC teams were Little Debby products.

 

[Capella]

You're telling me it's better to have a ton of guys get re-recruited every offseason?

Yea I think it’s great. If you want to keep your stars then pay up.

 

[culdeus]

You're telling me it's better to have a ton of guys get re-recruited every offseason?

Yea I think it’s great. If you want to keep your stars then pay up.

Which portal guys are stars. Name them.

It's a bunch of depth chart blocked guys that peaked in high school imo.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

You're telling me it's better to have a ton of guys get re-recruited every offseason?

Yea I think it’s great. If you want to keep your stars then pay up.

Which portal guys are stars. Name them.

It's a bunch of depth chart blocked guys that peaked in high school imo.

This seems like exactly the kind of kid who should be allowed to move freely. Went to a school to play football; isn't playing football and wants to move somewhere else. Whether he's moving to get a better opportunity to play, or some other personal reason - should be no restrictions or penalties imo.

 

[The Commish]

You're telling me it's better to have a ton of guys get re-recruited every offseason?

Yea I think it’s great. If you want to keep your stars then pay up.

Which portal guys are stars. Name them.

It's a bunch of depth chart blocked guys that peaked in high school imo.

Would a consensus All American qualify as a "star" these days? If so, Olusegun Oluwatimi at Michigan seems like a qualifying example
Justin Fields was a portal guy wasn't he or did he transfer before it existed? Same for Joe Burrow?

 

[Capella]

You're telling me it's better to have a ton of guys get re-recruited every offseason?

Yea I think it’s great. If you want to keep your stars then pay up.

Which portal guys are stars. Name them.

It's a bunch of depth chart blocked guys that peaked in high school imo.

Jeremiah Johnson went to fsu from Georgia to the first round. Jared Verse went from Albany to FSU to the first round. Jammie Robinson went from South Carolina to fsu to likely first - second round. That’s 3 guys on one team that I follow.

Alabama got a star running back from Ga Tech. Bo Nix was a huge upgrade for Oregon. Caleb Williams won some trophy you may have heard of going from OU to USC. Did you watch college football this season?