***Official 2022 World Cup Thread*** (1 Viewer)

[Jayrod]

Horsecollar tackle!

15 yds, automatic first down.

 

[Zow]

Could that have been a straight red? Seemed super dangerous with his foot hitting him in the head.

Not sure on the thresholds for Yellows vs Reds.

My novice understanding is that it could have been. I believe Landon Donovan said so as well.

 

[Dickies]

Could that have been a straight red? Seemed super dangerous with his foot hitting him in the head.

Not sure on the thresholds for Yellows vs Reds.

My novice understanding is that it could have been. I believe Landon Donovan said so as well.

If studs to the face isn’t a red I don’t know what is.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Can't believe Dejan Lovren is still playing in a World Cup pretty much a full decade after I stopped making jokes about hoping he'd play with Andere Schurrle so I could make Lovren & Schurrle puns.

Schlemiel, Schlimazel ...

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Could that have been a straight red? Seemed super dangerous with his foot hitting him in the head.

Not sure on the thresholds for Yellows vs Reds.

My novice understanding is that it could have been. I believe Landon Donovan said so as well.

If studs to the face isn’t a red I don’t know what is.

Maybe the ref is a big Nigel DeJong fan.

 

[The Z Machine]

Refs tend to lose their red cards in big knockout matches.

 

[Zow]

Could that have been a straight red? Seemed super dangerous with his foot hitting him in the head.

Not sure on the thresholds for Yellows vs Reds.

My novice understanding is that it could have been. I believe Landon Donovan said so as well.

If studs to the face isn’t a red I don’t know what is.

Eh, my novice take is that a red card is so huge and devastating that it should be reserved for something intentionally egregious (looking at you, Zidane). Here, I view the spikes up as showing a reckless disregard for safety, but he seemed to at least be going for the ball and did not intend to connect with the opponent.

So, while I recognize that arguably could have and maybe should have been a red, from a viewing perspective of a game of this magnitude I'm okay with the yellow.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

wow that was a great save, made even greater because I'm watching the peacock stream so it's in espanol

 

[TripleThreat]

The keeper is standing on his head.

 

[ChiefD]

Is that Sean Sutton as the referee?

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

You can't just reserve red cards for malicious or deliberate fouls. Cards exist to deter plays that endanger players. And the most dangerous plays are reckless, not intentional. Zidane's headbutt had absolutely no chance of hurting Gattuso. Studs up to the face can give a guy a concussion or take out an eye. Two-foot tackles above the ball have ended careers.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

landon said it best, Croatia aren’t intimidated

No reason to expect otherwise. Most of these guys are grizzled vets from huge clubs and were playing in the final 4 years ago while the Samba boys were on dancing on a beach.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Zidane's headbutt had absolutely no chance of hurting Gattuso.

hard to dispute this one ...

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

landon said it best, Croatia aren’t intimidated

No reason to expect otherwise. Most of these guys are grizzled vets from huge clubs and were playing in the final 4 years ago while the Samba boys were on dancing on a beach.

Nobody's blowing out a team with that midfield.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

Zidane's headbutt had absolutely no chance of hurting Gattuso.

hard to dispute this one ...

Argh. Materazzi.

 

[Ramsay Hunt Experience]

I might have jinxed Brazil by wearing my Socrates t-shirt to the gym this morning.

 

[TripleThreat]

The keeper is standing on his head.

MOAR head standing

 

[CletiusMaximus]

How to play for penalties against superior opposition in a knock-out tournament.

 

[Jayrod]

Referee is handing out yellows like candy, though.

 

[Jayrod]

The keeper is standing on his head.

I don't know why, but this is one of my favorite sayings in all of sports. It literally makes me smile every time I hear or read it.

 

[QuizGuy66]

Could that have been a straight red? Seemed super dangerous with his foot hitting him in the head.

Not sure on the thresholds for Yellows vs Reds.

My novice understanding is that it could have been. I believe Landon Donovan said so as well.

If studs to the face isn’t a red I don’t know what is.

Depends on the face if you ask me

-QG

 

[Poke_4_Life]

LOL. Nice dive Antony.

 

[Jayrod]

LOL. Nice dive Antony.

Literally ZERO physical contact between the two and then he has the audacity to gesture to the referee.

Gutless play and why I can never root for Brazil, they are a team filled with floppers, whiners and prima donnas.

 

[Zow]

Why no yellow for a simulation there?

 

[QuizGuy66]

How to play for penalties against superior opposition in a knock-out tournament.

I would enjoy a version of the broadcast that has these shape and triangle and circle illustrations - really interesting

-QG

 

[chet]

Croatian keeper is the game's MVP so far.

 

[Zow]

You can't just reserve red cards for malicious or deliberate fouls. Cards exist to deter plays that endanger players. And the most dangerous plays are reckless, not intentional. Zidane's headbutt had absolutely no chance of hurting Gattuso. Studs up to the face can give a guy a concussion or take out an eye. Two-foot tackles above the ball have ended careers.

Makes sense. I appreciate this input even if I'm still debating whether I agree.

 

[Poke_4_Life]

Why no yellow for a simulation there?

Could have been. More likely the ref couldn't tell of it was no contact (and a dive) or light contact (and no call). Safer to just stay silent.

 

[Zow]

Croatian keeper is the game's MVP so far.

Easily.

He's been great all tournament. I think he was the same guy from four years ago, too, who was a awesome.

I assume he's a goalie on some massive club that I should know but don't.

 

[QuizGuy66]

How to play for penalties against superior opposition in a knock-out tournament.

Morocco related stat.
Corners in four games so far -
Morocco opponents: 28
Morocco: 3



-QG

 

[ChiefD]

I got a fevah, and the only prescription is a goal

 

[Jaysus]

Why no yellow for a simulation there?

The ref must have not had a good view

 

[Zow]

Why no yellow for a simulation there?

The ref must have not had a good view

Hmmm

 

[Jayrod]

Croatian keeper is the game's MVP so far.

Easily.

He's been great all tournament. I think he was the same guy from four years ago, too, who was a awesome.

I assume he's a goalie on some massive club that I should know but don't.

He's as impenetrable as the walls of Dubrovnik.

 

[ChiefD]

Brazil building up for a go at the goal is one of the most beautiful things in sports.

 

[Desert_Power]

Love these quotes from the Portugal coach.

 

[TripleThreat]

If this goes to PKs brazil gets beat being cheeky vs taking straight shots I will laugh maniacally.

 

[Jayrod]

Croatian keeper is the game's MVP so far.

Easily.

He's been great all tournament. I think he was the same guy from four years ago, too, who was a awesome.

I assume he's a goalie on some massive club that I should know but don't.

He plays for a Croatian league club, Dinamo Zagreb.

 

[B Maverick]

You guys are forgetting one thing with your ref comments.

IT'S MICHAEL OLIVER, THE WORST REF IN THE EPL

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Can't believe Dejan Lovren is still playing

Me either.

 

[gianmarco]

You guys are forgetting one thing with your ref comments.

IT'S MICHAEL OLIVER, THE WORST REF IN THE EPL

You say this every time. And he's not. He's consistently one of the best.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

How to play for penalties against superior opposition in a knock-out tournament.

Morocco related stat.
Corners in four games so far -
Morocco opponents: 28
Morocco: 3



-QG

Just one goal conceeded through 4 games - an OG to Canada. Going to be a really interesting game tomorrow. Might be one of those fascinating/frustrating 0-0 games.

 

[B Maverick]

You guys are forgetting one thing with your ref comments.

IT'S MICHAEL OLIVER, THE WORST REF IN THE EPL

You say this every time. And he's not. He's consistently one of the best.

And yet he's not.



And I'm going to keep saying it

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Croatian keeper is the game's MVP so far.

Easily.

He's been great all tournament. I think he was the same guy from four years ago, too, who was a awesome.

I assume he's a goalie on some massive club that I should know but don't.

He's as impenetrable as the walls of Dubrovnik.

found the Ray Hudson alias

 

[Poke_4_Life]

The font on these BRA kits is... interesting.

 

[Jayrod]

Croatian keeper is the game's MVP so far.

Easily.

He's been great all tournament. I think he was the same guy from four years ago, too, who was a awesome.

I assume he's a goalie on some massive club that I should know but don't.

He's as impenetrable as the walls of Dubrovnik.

found the Ray Hudson alias

 

[Poke_4_Life]

Is this WC the first-time refs have had their names on the backs of their shirts?

 

[gianmarco]

You guys are forgetting one thing with your ref comments.

IT'S MICHAEL OLIVER, THE WORST REF IN THE EPL

You say this every time. And he's not. He's consistently one of the best.

And yet he's not.



And I'm going to keep saying it

I can literally do a search on ranking refs in the EPL and every one of them will have him in the top 3-5. He's listed #1 on most that I just looked at. At Whoscored, looking at it objectively, he's #1.

The worst in the EPL? That's just nonsense. There is absolutely nothing objective about that statement. By what measure is he the worst? Can you find post anything that substantiates that? Any list or ranking or measure that remotely agrees with that?

It's such a weird take when the consensus, looking at every list/ranking has him as the best ref. I mean, minority opinions are cool and all, but at least give a reason for it.

Hot take: Messi is one of the worst offensive players left in the tournament. And I'll keep saying it!

 

[Jayrod]

I'm torn between wanting to see Croatia win, but wanting the Brazil-France final.

 

[CGRdrJoe]

You guys are forgetting one thing with your ref comments.

IT'S MICHAEL OLIVER, THE WORST REF IN THE EPL

You say this every time. And he's not. He's consistently one of the best.

And yet he's not.



And I'm going to keep saying it

I can literally do a search on ranking refs in the EPL and every one of them will have him in the top 3-5. He's listed #1 on most that I just looked at. At Whoscored, looking at it objectively, he's #1.

The worst in the EPL? That's just nonsense. There is absolutely nothing objective about that statement. By what measure is he the worst? Can you find post anything that substantiates that? Any list or ranking or measure that remotely agrees with that?

It's such a weird take when the consensus, looking at every list/ranking has him as the best ref. I mean, minority opinions are cool and all, but at least give a reason for it.

Hot take: Messi is one of the worst offensive players left in the tournament. And I'll keep saying it!

Manchester United have won only 15 of 39 matches Oliver has refereed, just 38 per cent. This involves 11 draws and 13 defeats.