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***Official 2022 World Cup Thread*** (3 Viewers)

Argentina now favorites to win the WC at ~4-1.

But if there's one thing I'm sure about it's that Louis v Gaal doesn't give two flying flocks about Cinderella stories.

I read that as "disrespect" for Netherlands/Croatia and a little respect for England. I'd put my money on France right now.
 
Officially Croatia has now won 1 game and drawn 4 on their way to the semifinals.

They didn’t win a single game in regulation in the knockout rounds on their way to the final in Russia. Must be hell for their fans.

The thing I love about them is they are not parking the bus against these "superior" opponents - they are just so freaking smart and play so well together.
 
I just wish there was a way to finish the game on the field. I get that it's not physically possible to force them to keep playing though. Just wish there was a way.

Not sure why they don't do the golden goal and actually play out the full 30 min of OT. What is the thought behind that?

What do you mean by the bolded?
Stopping the game after the golden goal, ie the first goal scored in OT. They used to do that a while ago. Not sure when it changed.
 
My BIL spent 20+ years as a missionary in Argentina, which apparently was long enough to develop the same sense of entitlement as the natives. Can't talk soccer with him as he has no appreciation for how far the US has come recently, so screw him, I'm rooting against Argentina.
This is a much better reason than just like, being from some country.

I have a very unpopular opinion that being a fan based on arbitrary geograpical reasons is a rule I don't feel I have to follow. I root against Argentina because the drink Fernet and Coke, and because the Nazis.
 
I just wish there was a way to finish the game on the field. I get that it's not physically possible to force them to keep playing though. Just wish there was a way.

Not sure why they don't do the golden goal and actually play out the full 30 min of OT. What is the thought behind that?

What do you mean by the bolded?
Stopping the game after the golden goal, ie the first goal scored in OT. They used to do that a while ago. Not sure when it changed.

Golden goal was removed by FIFA back after the 2002 WC. The last golden goal ever scored was this one

 
They changed it because they wanted both sides to have the opportunity
This was the argument they made because they didn't like the first man to score wins rules they had before.

Really, tho, people who prefer the Golden Goal need to make the argument. There's a clock in regulation, and at the end of that time, a winner is declared. Why should extra time have a NEW rule inserted, that first team to score wins? Why shouldn't they play the extra time, if you want it decided on the field?
 
They changed it because they wanted both sides to have the opportunity
This was the argument they made because they didn't like the first man to score wins rules they had before.

Really, tho, people who prefer the Golden Goal need to make the argument. There's a clock in regulation, and at the end of that time, a winner is declared. Why should extra time have a NEW rule inserted, that first team to score wins? Why shouldn't they play the extra time, if you want it decided on the field?
Don't get me wrong. I am not really arguing FOR the golden goal. I am just trying to figure out a "fair" way to determine a winner that is NOT via penalty kicks.
 
xG from the first match
- BRA 2.80
- CRO 0.65

Croatia are a fantastic team, did what they had to do, got a tad lucky on the deflection and was cool in PKs. One of the things that makes this sport great is on a given day just about anything can happen. Brazil is a more talented team but were not better on the day. But yeah, if they play that same game 9 more times I'd expect Brazil to win it probably all 9 times.
 
xG from the first match
- BRA 2.80
- CRO 0.65

Croatia are a fantastic team, did what they had to do, got a tad lucky on the deflection and was cool in PKs. One of the things that makes this sport great is on a given day just about anything can happen. Brazil is a more talented team but were not better on the day. But yeah, if they play that same game 9 more times I'd expect Brazil to win it probably all 9 times.
11-1 shots on target, so Croatia's GK was the hero today
 
xG from the first match
- BRA 2.80
- CRO 0.65

Croatia are a fantastic team, did what they had to do, got a tad lucky on the deflection and was cool in PKs. One of the things that makes this sport great is on a given day just about anything can happen. Brazil is a more talented team but were not better on the day. But yeah, if they play that same game 9 more times I'd expect Brazil to win it probably all 9 times.
11-1 shots on target, so Croatia's GK was the hero today

Just kidding, Brazil were better - it happens.
 
They changed it because they wanted both sides to have the opportunity
This was the argument they made because they didn't like the first man to score wins rules they had before.

Really, tho, people who prefer the Golden Goal need to make the argument. There's a clock in regulation, and at the end of that time, a winner is declared. Why should extra time have a NEW rule inserted, that first team to score wins? Why shouldn't they play the extra time, if you want it decided on the field?
Don't get me wrong. I am not really arguing FOR the golden goal. I am just trying to figure out a "fair" way to determine a winner that is NOT via penalty kicks.

This is really the rub. No one likes it, but no one has a better idea, despite decades of debate and proposals. Some naively thought the golden goal would open things up and get teams to attack in extra time, but the opposite happened.
 
They changed it because they wanted both sides to have the opportunity
This was the argument they made because they didn't like the first man to score wins rules they had before.

Really, tho, people who prefer the Golden Goal need to make the argument. There's a clock in regulation, and at the end of that time, a winner is declared. Why should extra time have a NEW rule inserted, that first team to score wins? Why shouldn't they play the extra time, if you want it decided on the field?
Don't get me wrong. I am not really arguing FOR the golden goal. I am just trying to figure out a "fair" way to determine a winner that is NOT via penalty kicks.

This is really the rub. No one likes it, but no one has a better idea, despite decades of debate and proposals. Some naively thought the golden goal would open things up and get teams to attack in extra time, but the opposite happened.
I LOVE PKS!!!!!!!

The drama is immense. Sucks when you lose but damn if it isn't dramatic.
 
They changed it because they wanted both sides to have the opportunity
This was the argument they made because they didn't like the first man to score wins rules they had before.

Really, tho, people who prefer the Golden Goal need to make the argument. There's a clock in regulation, and at the end of that time, a winner is declared. Why should extra time have a NEW rule inserted, that first team to score wins? Why shouldn't they play the extra time, if you want it decided on the field?
Don't get me wrong. I am not really arguing FOR the golden goal. I am just trying to figure out a "fair" way to determine a winner that is NOT via penalty kicks.

This is really the rub. No one likes it, but no one has a better idea, despite decades of debate and proposals. Some naively thought the golden goal would open things up and get teams to attack in extra time, but the opposite happened.

To me the “simple” thing to try next is removing a player or two from each side to open the pitch up more and hopefully promote more attacking.
 
I mean the goal was really good too, but I don't think anyone else in the world can put that pass through like that.
 

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