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***Official 2022 World Cup Thread*** (2 Viewers)
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Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Whoa. Love it -- that was some bull####. Can't believe FIFA got one right.
ETA: they don't even mention the lasers during PKs?
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gianmarco
Footballguy
I know. I thought for sure that would be the reason.
But yes, finally got it right.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
What's the nickname for the Ghanian national team?
That's right... Black Stars.
Which is what I'm putting on this thread right now.
That's right... Black Stars.
Which is what I'm putting on this thread right now.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
Yea I was just about to ask how reputable that is. I can’t find it anywhere else, grant wahl hasn’t mentioned it etc.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Look...that bastion of journalistic integrity, The Mirror, has said Egypt might ask for a rematch (2 days ago, like the "story" from the EastAfrican)...so I'm sure Gian is on to something here.
gianmarco
Footballguy
So it was an April Fool's Day story.
Next they're going to tell me Nigeria doesn't have a prince trying to get rid of money.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Will it be Ukraine, Scotland or Wales to fill out the US group?
I think we all assume Wales... who the US played a couple years ago to a 0-0 draw. Iirc it was Musahs first game, and an early Dest game as well. With Brooks and Miazga paired as the CBs.
I think it was a mostly B team from Wales missing their stars.
Iirc, this was the game where I saw the beginning of something exciting for the US with that MMA mf and Dest and Reyna and Konrad (no CP) all combining and moving the ball around, at least in moments, in ways I'd never seen from any US team before.
We'll hopefully see some of that promise come to fruition in November.
I think we all assume Wales... who the US played a couple years ago to a 0-0 draw. Iirc it was Musahs first game, and an early Dest game as well. With Brooks and Miazga paired as the CBs.
I think it was a mostly B team from Wales missing their stars.
Iirc, this was the game where I saw the beginning of something exciting for the US with that MMA mf and Dest and Reyna and Konrad (no CP) all combining and moving the ball around, at least in moments, in ways I'd never seen from any US team before.
We'll hopefully see some of that promise come to fruition in November.
El Floppo
Footballguy
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Listen to Hayya Hayya, the first single released from the FIFA World Cup 2022™ Official Soundtrack, featuring vocalists Trinidad Cardona, Davido and Aisha.
https://youtu.be/vyDjFVZgJoo
https://youtu.be/vyDjFVZgJoo
Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
So wait, the mascot is a flying white Hijab? Or an albino Muslim manta ray, sporting the headband? Maybe a Casper descendant!?
WOW.
The only World Cup song I remember is Waka Waka, whose commercial success will be difficult to top. It led to Shakira meeting Gerard Piqué and then marriage and 2 children. Soccer star meets World Cup singer will be impossible to top.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Team values per Transfermarkt based on most recent callups.
This doesn’t reflect the full value of the teams that will play in November - for example Belgium does not include Lukaku, Courtois or DeBruyne who were not in the squad this past window.
This doesn’t reflect the full value of the teams that will play in November - for example Belgium does not include Lukaku, Courtois or DeBruyne who were not in the squad this past window.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
themeanmachine
Footballguy
Anyone thinking of going to Qatar?
El Floppo
Footballguy
I think Chet was talking about going if Canada got in... which they did.
but yeah... curious if anybody makes that trip.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
That transfer value chart is pretty cool:
500MM+
500MM+
- England 1000
- France 971
- Brazil 864
- Spain 784
- Portugal 748
- Germany 741
- Netherlands 590
- Argentina 586
- Uruguay 385
- Belgium 347
- Serbia 337
- Senegal 332
- Croatia 321
- Denmark 318
- Poland 279
- Switzerland 230
- Morocco 218
- Mexico 211
- United States 205
- South Korea 134
- Cameroon 127
- Ghana 113
- Canada 110
- Ecuador 91
- Iran 78
- Japan 77
- Tunisia 62
- Saudi Arabia 29
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CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
Actually just $55m, same as Zielinski. (mine is set to US$, the graphic is in Euros - Lewa is valued at €50m)Poland at 279 - 200 of that must be Lewandowski.
https://www.transfermarkt.us/polen/startseite/verein/3442
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Sand
Footballguy
Sand
Footballguy
Serious question, if one was angling for USA tickets next WC, what can one do now? Fan club membership to get first crack at tickets or anything similar?
As far as I'm concerned the biggest can't miss events in the US over the next few years are the solar eclipse in 2024 and this next WC.
As far as I'm concerned the biggest can't miss events in the US over the next few years are the solar eclipse in 2024 and this next WC.
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NewlyRetired
Footballguy
If you mean in 2026, there is nothing that has been mentioned yet. Typically these are pure lottery driven. I expect ticket prices to beyond insane.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Start saving now. I bet US games run at least $1k each, maybe $2k. My wife and I have already talked about this and I'll be flying solo if any of us go.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I was trying to figure out why the US was lower than Mexico but I forgot about the injuries. Dest, Aaronson, McKennie, and Turner may add more than 80m between them.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
I am far from poor. I am an ENORMOUS fan and I can't fathom paying these prices.....thankfully I have seen the US play live in a WC but it would be amazing to see again....
NewlyRetired
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Jobber
Footballguy
What about non-US team games? Like Egypt vs Spain or whatever. Just for the WC experience.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
I was in DC, one of the host cities, in 1994 and I know the games sold out here. And generally I think the WC was considered a massive financial success because the games were mostly sold out even with the monster-sized stadiums.
Soccer's waaaay more popular now than it was then too, so I'd expect prices to be steep in general.
ETA: Brazil/Netherlands at this tournament, then an Atletico/Ajax champion's league quarter final in 1995, and going to a DCU/Tampa game during the remnants of a hurricane in the inaugural season of MLS in 1996 are the three things I cite for getting me into soccer. I STILL kick myself for not going to Belgium v Saudi Arabia when I had the chance.
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Harry Frogfish
Footballguy
I was at that Final in the Rose Bowl. And in the end zone where the penalty kicks took place. One of the most memorable sporting events I've ever seen.
Some girls I went to high school with worked for a booking agency for like two years leading up to it; that's how we landed those tickets.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
In 1994, even the lowest of low profile games like Saudi Arabia vs Morocco sold out in a massive stadium. Like Dinsy stated, I think all games are going to gouged in prices.
When you factor in foreign fans traveling, the massive growth in soccer fans in the US since 1994 and the massive growth in the latino population here, it is the near perfect formula for the organizers to be overly greedy.
El Floppo
Footballguy
Capella
Footballguy
We are renting an rv and making a summer road trip out of it. Kid will be 8 and a perfect way for him to see the US.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
What is even scarier is that the lot sold out according to the comments. It is hard to complain about the businesses raising prices when people are still willing to pay.
CletiusMaximus
Footballguy
I think one other factor is the death of paper tickets as everything has moved online. I walked up to Soldier Field in '94 and bought tickets for Germany-Spain for me and my girlfriend shortly before kickoff. I don't know what I paid, but I was dirt poor at the time so it had to be a good price. That doesn't exist anymore. All these secondary market transactions - including payment and ticket transfer - are now 100% online. I think that favors the sellers because buyers can't walk around outside the venue and play them off each other.
Dinsy Ejotuz
Footballguy
Ok, that's insane. And it's also insane that anyone would pay those prices. I mean maybe if you were in a wheelchair or something?
In the evenings you can park around the Mall or L'Enfant and take the Metro two or three stops for like $10 a couple. It's a slight hassle, but it's way better than gameday traffic around the stadium before you even get to the savings. I did it for five years for DCU games -- driving in from VA and parking around Eastern Market to avoid RFK traffic. $70 is lazy and crazy IMO.
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NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Mid June, but one of the games involves Ukraine and all that comes with that. Wales might be the best team but there is no big gap between any of these teams and the US. England will consider this playoff team (whom ever comes out) harder than the US game fwiw
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
he is making the leap from best young player in the world to a top player in the world. Fabulous skill level
The Z Machine
Footballguy
Scotland is far weaker than the US. Ukraine a bit weaker. Wales more on par with the US, but have no love for the English and would love to give them black eye.
NewlyRetired
Footballguy
Ted Lange as your Bartender
Footballguy
well, we beat them out in the group 12 years ago. I guess we’ll have to do it to them again
Sleestak
Footballguy
I attended that game in '94! I went simply because we had tickets. Meadowlands. It was fun. The best joke I heard was that no cabs were running in NYC that day.
I also attended the Spain v Switzerland 2nd round game at RFK. I had to pay $125 each for four good tickets (40 yard line, 20 rows up). At the time that felt like a lot. That was a fantastic experience. Saw some old Swiss fan weeping on the DC metro after the game. Spain hammered them.
Sand
Footballguy
Yeah - I know in some sports some fan clubs get dibs or a pool, etc. I guess the WC is different. I'll be on the lookout, though the 1k/ticket prediction is general insanity.
The Z Machine
Footballguy
There used to be some allocations for national teams supporters that the federation could distribute themselves. Not sure if that stopped and it's all centralized now or not. My Cameroonian colleague is interested in traveling to Qatar and is just now getting up on the ticket stuff. He had to forfeit his Cameroonian citizenship when he got American citizenship. He said it's because Cameroon wants to collect the visa fees for the diaspora to come back to visit Cameroon. Dumb.
ChiefD
Footballguy
Yeah.
As with everything else the organizers of such things will look to milk every last dime out of their consumer. I know I'm getting old but man I'm tired of this kind of thing. We are creating a society where only the wealthy can afford ANYTHING.
Makes me sad.
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