***Official 2023 Pro Cycling Thread*** - The Vuelta will be a Primoz, Vigo, G, Remco mosh pit (2 Viewers)

[Sammy3469]

Tadaj down will make for a great tour but the breakaway specials might as well start preparing for the Veulta.

I’ll watch the replay tonight but was he in bad form today or do you think he was saving his legs for a big effort tomorrow? Just curious.

Bad form….or more correctly not Jonas form…he was still the 2nd-4th best climber depending on how you slot Hindley, Sepp, and him.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Spoiler: LE FBG TDF stage winners

1. Da Raiders
2. BassNBrew
3. BobbyLayne
4. BobbyLayne
5. sammy3469

 

[BobbyLayne]

Spoiler: Overall standings after Stage 5

1. 1992 Sand`s Saddle Sores
   BassNBrew
2. 1794 Armstrong`s Needle
   Da Raiders
3. 1778 RB Brownwings WGUAFC
   Jaysus
4. 1716 Spokes `n Tokes
   Nick Vermeil
5. 1705 Forcats de la Route
   ForzaShels
6. 1688 Boerum Hill Big Ringing
   BobbyLayne
7. 1581 bilingual lebanese thespians
   zmanzzzz
8. 1565 Bags Of Blood
   culdeus
9. 1426 Monte crappe
   sammy3469
10. 1404 Squeaky Wheels
    Cheeseypoof
11. 1195 Let`s Go Brandon! ...McNulty
    Sand

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Whoa. I wonder if that’s was it. Hope not.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Just read that Hindley has won a Giro. Had no idea.

 

[BassNBrew]

Tadaj down will make for a great tour but the breakaway specials might as well start preparing for the Veulta.

I’ll watch the replay tonight but was he in bad form today or do you think he was saving his legs for a big effort tomorrow? Just curious.

Jonas has better hour power. Tadaj looks like he spent too much time training for the classics.

 

[Nick Vermeil]

Just read that Hindley has won a Giro. Had no idea.

Drafted him as a climber. I didn’t realize he was my GC contender.

 

[BobbyLayne]

JONAS VINGEGAARD

Col de Marie Blanque (7,90km; 8,49%; 671m)

20'58min
20,97km/h
1920 VAM
6,92ᵉw/kg (est.)
CLIMBING RECORD

Faster than the previous record by 1:29min

 

[BobbyLayne]

Just read that Hindley has won a Giro. Had no idea.

Drafted him as a climber. I didn’t realize he was my GC contender.

had the 3rd best odds, consensus pick to podium

great day for him & BORA though

 

[BobbyLayne]

Pogačar's girlfriend crashed in the Giro Donne today and DNF

 

[BassNBrew]

JONAS VINGEGAARD

Col de Marie Blanque (7,90km; 8,49%; 671m)

20'58min
20,97km/h
1920 VAM
6,92ᵉw/kg (est.)
CLIMBING RECORD

Faster than the previous record by 1:29min

I didn't realize that he only weighs 132 pounds. These guys should be in the Giro Donne.

 

[culdeus]

JONAS VINGEGAARD

Col de Marie Blanque (7,90km; 8,49%; 671m)

20'58min
20,97km/h
1920 VAM
6,92ᵉw/kg (est.)
CLIMBING RECORD

Faster than the previous record by 1:29min

I didn't realize that he only weighs 132 pounds. These guys should be in the Giro Donne.

Cyclist weight has been on a downhill since 2000 timeframe.

 

[BobbyLayne]

JONAS VINGEGAARD

Col de Marie Blanque (7,90km; 8,49%; 671m)

20'58min
20,97km/h
1920 VAM
6,92ᵉw/kg (est.)
CLIMBING RECORD

Faster than the previous record by 1:29min

I didn't realize that he only weighs 132 pounds. These guys should be in the Giro Donne.

most of the climber/GC guys have that kind of frame

• HIndley 60 kg
• Vingegaard 60 kg
• Ciccone 58 kg
• Buchmann 59 kg
• A Yates 58 kg
• S Yates 58 kg
• Gaudu 53 kg
• Pogočar 66 kg
• Skjelmose 65 kg
• Rodriguez 67 kg

sprinters are usually a bit thicker:

• Philipsen 75 kg
• Pedersen 70 kg
• Van Aert 78 kg
• Ewan 69 kg
• Cavendish 70 kg
• Jakobsen 78 kg
• Dylan Groenewegen 70 kg

 

[BobbyLayne]

Tadaj down will make for a great tour but the breakaway specials might as well start preparing for the Veulta.

I’ll watch the replay tonight but was he in bad form today or do you think he was saving his legs for a big effort tomorrow? Just curious.

Jonas has better hour power. Tadaj looks like he spent too much time training for the classics.

You'll probably always be able to make that statement. Pogi is a better all round cyclist (one day classics man) and Jonas is the better stage racer/GT rider

It's far from over, a little bad luck can compromise a whole GT. Stray dog, a distracted rider, a little oil on the road, some road furniture. - one of these at the bad time and then it's over. Grand tours are a battle of attrition.

Also, Jai could be better than we gave him credit for; he was a popular pick to podium but the team is doing better than expected. When Peter Sagan left Bora-Hansgrohe a couple years ago he took 3-4 teammates (+ several staff), the team went through a deep overhaul. Just now seeing the fruits of that.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Spoiler: group 1 breakaway

can't figure out yet who is in group 2 (5 riders) trying to catch up

1		6	VAN AERT Wout	8:26
2		18	TRENTIN Matteo	1:01:24
3		24	KWIATKOWSKI Michał	33:45
4		47	SHAW James	45:34
5		51	ALAPHILIPPE Julian	7:10
6		63	ARNDT Nikias	50:33
7		93	COSNEFROY Benoît	57:40
8		101	VAN DER POEL Mathieu	42:08
9		122	COQUARD Bryan	53:00
10		134	IZAGIRRE Gorka	27:46
11		155	NEILANDS Krists	31:09
12		166	JUUL-JENSEN Christopher	55:26
13		176	LOUVEL Matis	35:29
14		204	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland	21:28
15		208	GREGAARD Jonas	47:55

 

[BobbyLayne]

Spoiler: group 2

Attack by 6 5 riders in peloton

• GUERREIRO Ruben (Movistar Team)
• PEREZ Anthony (Cofidis)
• POWLESS Neilson (EF Education-EasyPost)
• ASGREEN Kasper (Soudal - Quick Step)
• TURGIS Anthony (TotalEnergies)
• NAESEN Oliver (AG2R Citroën Team)

 

[BobbyLayne]

Average race speed so far: 52.997 km/h.
(14 km covered in 00:15:51).

Fastest first hours of racing this Tour de France .

STAGE		SPEED IN FIRST HOUR
Stage 5		49.4
Stage 2		47.5
Stage 1		41.8
Stage 3		37.2
Stage 4		37.1

 

[BobbyLayne]

@LanterneRougeYT
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[BobbyLayne]

Nationalities in the break.

#	COUNTRY	RIDERS	#
1	France	Coquard, Cosnefroy, Perez, Louvel, Alaphilippe	5
2	Denmark	Gregaard, Juul-Jensen, Asgreen	3
3	Belgium	van Aert, Naesen	2
4	Germany	Arndt	1
5	Spain	Izagirre	1
6	Great Britain	Shaw	1
7	Italy	Trentin	1
8	Latvia	Neilands	1
9	Netherlands	van der Poel	1
10	Norway	Johannessen	1
11	Poland	Kwiatkowski	1
12	Portugal	Guerreiro	1
13	United States	Powless	1

 

[BassNBrew]

Tadaj down will make for a great tour but the breakaway specials might as well start preparing for the Veulta.

I’ll watch the replay tonight but was he in bad form today or do you think he was saving his legs for a big effort tomorrow? Just curious.

Jonas has better hour power. Tadaj looks like he spent too much time training for the classics.

You'll probably always be able to make that statement. Pogi is a better all round cyclist (one day classics man) and Jonas is the better stage racer/GT rider

It's far from over, a little bad luck can compromise a whole GT. Stray dog, a distracted rider, a little oil on the road, some road furniture. - one of these at the bad time and then it's over. Grand tours are a battle of attrition.

Also, Jai could be better than we gave him credit for; he was a popular pick to podium but the team is doing better than expected. When Peter Sagan left Bora-Hansgrohe a couple years ago he took 3-4 teammates (+ several staff), the team went through a deep overhaul. Just now seeing the fruits of that.

Hard to say who from our group thought Jonas was the favorite from the picks. Tadaj was $2 cheaper and tends to rack up finish points. I "downgraded" to Pogi to squeeze in Yates.

Next year it would be fun to list our podium picks and other jersey winners as a side contest.

 

[BassNBrew]

Here we go...

 

[BassNBrew]

Breakaway points will be determined about 1/3 of the way down the Col d Aspin.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Tadaj down will make for a great tour but the breakaway specials might as well start preparing for the Veulta.

I’ll watch the replay tonight but was he in bad form today or do you think he was saving his legs for a big effort tomorrow? Just curious.

Jonas has better hour power. Tadaj looks like he spent too much time training for the classics.

You'll probably always be able to make that statement. Pogi is a better all round cyclist (one day classics man) and Jonas is the better stage racer/GT rider

It's far from over, a little bad luck can compromise a whole GT. Stray dog, a distracted rider, a little oil on the road, some road furniture. - one of these at the bad time and then it's over. Grand tours are a battle of attrition.

Also, Jai could be better than we gave him credit for; he was a popular pick to podium but the team is doing better than expected. When Peter Sagan left Bora-Hansgrohe a couple years ago he took 3-4 teammates (+ several staff), the team went through a deep overhaul. Just now seeing the fruits of that.

Hard to say who from our group thought Jonas was the favorite from the picks. Tadaj was $2 cheaper and tends to rack up finish points. I "downgraded" to Pogi to squeeze in Yates.

Next year it would be fun to list our podium picks and other jersey winners as a side contest.

100% of our group of 11 picked Pog as one of their GC guys. in my pre-race builds, I tried a lot of combinations with jonas + A. Yates or Jonas + Jai or Jonas + budget + WvA.

I never seriously considered Pog alone without Vingegaard. I think me and @cheeseypoof are the only teams with both? So far that was the losing strategy but we'll see how it plays out.

if Mvdp doesn't start going for stage wins I have no shot.

 

[BobbyLayne]

farmer art

 

[BobbyLayne]

Virtual KOM classification.

RNK.			RIDER	POINTS	POINTS SCORED TODAY
1		▲3	POWLESS Neilson	30	12
2		▼1	GALL Felix	28	-
3		▼1	CICCONE Giulio	19	-
4		▼1	HINDLEY Jai	18	-
5		-	MARTÍNEZ Daniel Felipe	15	-
6		-	BUCHMANN Emanuel	14	-
7		-	NEILANDS Krists	9	1
8		new	GUERREIRO Ruben	8	8
9		▼1	POGAČAR Tadej	7	-
10		▲11	VAN AERT Wout	7	6

 

[BobbyLayne]

TJV:

'18—Kruijswijk 4th
'19—Roglic 3rd
'19—Roglic 1st
'20—Roglic 2nd
'20—Roglic 1st
'21—Vingegaard 2nd
'21—Roglic 1st
'22—Vingegaard 1st
'23—Roglic 1st

What do they all have in common?

Sepp Kuss pacing the mountain stages.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Spoiler: 15 more stages after today

but jonas wants to end it today - so far Tadej is matching attack for attack

Situation​

• 1
  
  
  

  1		6	VAN AERT Wout	8:26
  2		24	KWIATKOWSKI Michał	33:45
  3		47	SHAW James	45:34
  4		132	GUERREIRO Ruben	19:02
  5		204	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland	21:28

• 2
  
  
  

  1		46	POWLESS Neilson	36:20
  2		51	ALAPHILIPPE Julian	7:10
  3		134	IZAGIRRE Gorka	27:46
  4		155	NEILANDS Krists	31:09
  5		176	LOUVEL Matis	35:29
  6		208	GREGAARD Jonas	47:55

• 3
  
  +1:50
  

  1		1	VINGEGAARD Jonas	0:47
  2		4	KUSS Sepp	3:15
  3		11	POGAČAR Tadej	1:40

 

[BobbyLayne]

Spoiler: maillot jaune

Jai is 1:28 down and gap is increasing

Jai gonna lose it

 

[BobbyLayne]

Spoiler: KOM

great job by Powless there he'll wear the polka dots tomorrow

 

[BobbyLayne]

Spoiler: situation on the descent

Situation​

• 1
  
  
  

  1		24	KWIATKOWSKI Michał	33:45
  2		47	SHAW James	45:34
  3		132	GUERREIRO Ruben	19:02
  4		204	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland	21:28

• 2
  
  +0:15
  

  1		1	VINGEGAARD Jonas	0:47
  2		6	VAN AERT Wout	8:26
  3		11	POGAČAR Tadej	1:40
  4		46	POWLESS Neilson	36:20

• 3
  
  +1:31
  

  1		4	KUSS Sepp	3:15
  2		51	ALAPHILIPPE Julian	7:10
  3		134	IZAGIRRE Gorka	27:46
  4		141	BARDET Romain	2:36
  5		176	LOUVEL Matis	35:29
  6		208	GREGAARD Jonas	47:55

• Peloton
  
  +2:30

 

[BobbyLayne]

Spoiler: virtual GC

Virtual general classification at this moment.

#	RIDER	+-	TIMELAG	BONIS
1	VINGEGAARD Jonas	▲1	22:16:09	-
2	POGAČAR Tadej	▲4	0:53	-
3	HINDLEY Jai	▼2	1:33	-
4	CICCONE Giulio	▼1	2:36	-
5	BUCHMANN Emanuel	▼1	2:44	-
6	YATES Adam	▼1	3:07	-
7	BARDET Romain	▲5	3:10	-
8	YATES Simon	▼1	3:13	-
9	SKJELMOSE Mattias	▼1	3:29	-
10	RODRÍGUEZ Carlos	▼1	,,	-
11	GAUDU David	▼1	,,	-
12	WOODS Michael	▼1	3:48	-
13	KUSS Sepp	▲3	3:49	-
14	PIDCOCK Thomas	▼1	4:09	-
15	LANDA Mikel	▼1	4:46	-
16	KELDERMAN Wilco	▼1	,,	-
17	O'CONNOR Ben	-	5:07	-
18	BILBAO Pello	-	,,	-
19	CRAS Steff	-	,,	-
20	BERNAL Egan	-	5:33	-

 

[BassNBrew]

Vingegaard is such a little *****. Wouldn't work with Pogi when they were together a few stages ago and then today expects him to pull through and pacing him up the last climb.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Spoiler: situation final climb

Wout and Jonas pacing Pog (3rd wheel)

Situation​

• 1
  
  
  

  1		1	VINGEGAARD Jonas	0:47
  2		6	VAN AERT Wout	8:26
  3		11	POGAČAR Tadej	1:40
  4		24	KWIATKOWSKI Michał	33:45
  5		46	POWLESS Neilson	36:20
  6		47	SHAW James	45:34
  7		132	GUERREIRO Ruben	19:02
  8		204	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland	21:28

• P
  
  +2:50
  

  1		3	KELDERMAN Wilco	3:13
  2		4	KUSS Sepp	3:15
  3		14	GROßSCHARTNER Felix	26:29
  4		16	MAJKA Rafał	14:57
  5		19	YATES Adam	1:34
  6		22	CASTROVIEJO Jonathan	7:11
  7		25	MARTÍNEZ Daniel Felipe	16:18
  8		26	PIDCOCK Thomas	2:36
  9		27	RODRÍGUEZ Carlos	1:56
  10		31	GAUDU David	1:56
  11		37	PINOT Thibaut	4:40
  12		51	ALAPHILIPPE Julian	7:10
  13		62	LANDA Mikel	3:13
  14		65	BILBAO Pello	3:34
  15		71	HINDLEY Jai
  16		72	BUCHMANN Emanuel	1:11
  17		83	SKJELMOSE Mattias	1:56
  18		91	O'CONNOR Ben	3:34
  19		114	MEINTJES Louis	4:32
  20		141	BARDET Romain	2:36
  21		161	YATES Simon	1:40
  22		165	HARPER Chris	10:00

 

[BobbyLayne]

Spoiler: more like Machine Van Aert

soon as the neutralized start ended, Wout sprinted 50+ kph for an hour to lead out the breakaway

on the final climb, pacing the leaders

 

[BobbyLayne]

Spoiler: huge explosion

Pogočar accelerates as Vingegaard was looking away for a moment at 2.7hm

huge burst to go up 9 seconds with 2.1km to go

 

[BobbyLayne]

Spoiler: 1 km to go

13 second gap

 

[BobbyLayne]

Spoiler: top ten

Fishmonger seizes Yellow

Preliminary results.

RNK.	RIDER	TEAM	TIME
1	POGAČAR Tadej	UAE Team Emirates	3:54:27
2	VINGEGAARD Jonas	Jumbo-Visma	0:24
3	JOHANNESSEN Tobias Halland	Uno-X Pro Cycling Team	1:22
4	GUERREIRO Ruben	Movistar Team	2:06
5	SHAW James	EF Education-EasyPost	2:15
6	HINDLEY Jai	BORA - hansgrohe	2:39
7	RODRÍGUEZ Carlos	INEOS Grenadiers	2:39
8	YATES Simon	Team Jayco AlUla	2:39
9	YATES Adam	UAE Team Emirates	3:11
10	BARDET Romain	Team dsm - firmenich

 

[BobbyLayne]

"I got my *** handed to me, but really enjoyed it." - Jai Hindley

I know what he meant, but that was a hilarious comment.

 

[Jaysus]

Spoiler: huge explosion

Pogočar accelerates as Vingegaard was looking away for a moment at 2.7hm

huge burst to go up 9 seconds with 2.1km to go

well timed moto draft with that move as well... that is some big brain (hair tufts) action

 

[Sammy3469]

That was fun.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Spoiler: GC after Stage 6

nk	Prev	▼▲	Rider	Team	UCI		Time
1	2	▲1	VINGEGAARD Jonas	Jumbo-Visma	25	11″	26:10:44
2	6	▲4	POGAČAR Tadej	UAE Team Emirates		26″	0:25
3	1	▼2	HINDLEY Jai	BORA - hansgrohe		18″	1:34
4	7	▲3	YATES Simon	Team Jayco AlUla		8″	3:14
5	9	▲4	RODRÍGUEZ Carlos	INEOS Grenadiers			3:30
6	5	▼1	YATES Adam	UAE Team Emirates		10″	3:40
7	10	▲3	GAUDU David	Groupama - FDJ			4:03
8	12	▲4	BARDET Romain	Team dsm - firmenich			4:43
9	13	▲4	PIDCOCK Thomas	INEOS Grenadiers			,,
10	16	▲6	KUSS Sepp	Jumbo-Visma			5:28

 

[BobbyLayne]

another cracking day

as good of a six day start as you'll ever see in a GT

snoozefest until Sunday but we need a break lol

 

[BobbyLayne]

Vinge: sorry but who are you?

Macron: president of France

Vinge: oh oops

Macron: don’t mind me just popping in for the stage

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

another cracking day

Has been super entertaining so far. Nice to have a real race going forward too.

 

[BassNBrew]

Their are probably labor rules in place that Jumbo is violating ref: Wout

 

[Nick Vermeil]

Fourth day in a row the stage winner is on my roster. I'm certain I've never done that before.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Spoiler: Stage 6

LE FBG TDF LEADERBOARD

​

• 1
  
  618
  

  Boerum Hill Big Ringing​

  BobbyLayne
• 2
  
  587
  

  Squeaky Wheels​

  Cheeseypoof
• 3
  
  561
  

  RB Brownwings WGUAFC​

  Jaysus
• 4
  
  539
  

  bilingual lebanese thespians​

  zmanzzzz
• 5
  
  536
  

  Monte crappe​

  sammy3469
• 6
  
  533
  

  Sand`s Saddle Sores​

  BassNBrew
• 7
  
  491
  

  Forcats de la Route​

  ForzaShels
• 8
  
  490
  

  Bags Of Blood​

  culdeus
• 9
  
  453
  

  Armstrong`s Needle​

  Da Raiders
• 10
  
  428
  

  Spokes `n Tokes​

  Nick Vermeil
• 11
  
  428
  

  Let`s Go Brandon! ...McNulty​

  Sand

 

[BobbyLayne]

Spoiler: Overall Standings

LE FBG TDF​

• 1
  
  2525
  

  Sand`s Saddle Sores​

  BassNBrew
• 2
  
  2339
  

  RB Brownwings WGUAFC​

  Jaysus
• 3
  
  2306
  

  Boerum Hill Big Ringing​

  BobbyLayne
• 4
  
  2247
  

  Armstrong`s Needle​

  Da Raiders
• 5
  
  2196
  

  Forcats de la Route​

  ForzaShels
• 6
  
  2144
  

  Spokes `n Tokes​

  Nick Vermeil
• 7
  
  2120
  

  bilingual lebanese thespians​

  zmanzzzz
• 8
  
  2055
  

  Bags Of Blood​

  culdeus
• 9
  
  1991
  

  Squeaky Wheels​

  Cheeseypoof
• 10
  
  1962
  

  Monte crappe​

  sammy3469
• 11
  
  1623
  

  Let`s Go Brandon! ...McNulty​

  Sand

 

[BobbyLayne]

Spoiler: stage wins

LE FBG TDF​

1. Da Raiders
2. BassNBrew
3. BobbyLayne
4. BobbyLayne
5. sammy3469
6. BobbyLayne

 

[Sand]

MVDP has been relegated and fined.

Team sport, individualized penalty. If you’re a lead-out, I guess the UCI is OK if you hinder other sprinters as your sprinter will never be penalised by your actions.

Anyway, I still win the Stage without MvdP’s points but dropped off the podium in the overall standings.

Definitely. That was a team move and should b be a team penalty.