***Official 2023 Pro Cycling Thread*** - The Vuelta will be a Primoz, Vigo, G, Remco mosh pit (1 Viewer)

[BobbyLayne]

can one record the tdf on peacock?

Not sure but I think replays are available.

this appears to be the way. replays are available

they got me. i signed up and will cancel in a month

then start another month for the Vuelta 5 weeks later

 

[BobbyLayne]

OK so no more spoilers bc everyone caved?

 

[Nick Vermeil]

can one record the tdf on peacock?

Not sure but I think replays are available.

this appears to be the way. replays are available

they got me. i signed up and will cancel in a month

I did as well.

And a 3rd. Although I found a coupon code to get a year for $30

Certainly don’t post it.

 

[Sand]

Assuming my rightful place in the ****ter right from the start.

 

[BassNBrew]

can one record the tdf on peacock?

Not sure but I think replays are available.

this appears to be the way. replays are available

they got me. i signed up and will cancel in a month

I did as well.

And a 3rd. Although I found a coupon code to get a year for $30

Certainly don’t post it.

N2TEWDZZ

 

[BobbyLayne]

DNS

CARAPAZ Richard

EF Education-EasyPost

 

[BassNBrew]

That worked out pretty well for my team today. Spots 2, 3, 4, and 5.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Whelp…peacock sucks. No clue when the replay becomes available.

 

[BassNBrew]

Whelp…peacock sucks. No clue when the replay becomes available.

It’s there

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

What a finish today.

 

[CletiusMaximus]

Does Peacock do a shortened summary version or full replay only?

 

[cheeseypoof]

Does Peacock do a shortened summary version or full replay only?

There is a "highlights" replay. It's 25 minutes for todays Stage 2.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

what a move by lafay. just great! træn has a fractured elbow. o'Conner was on the floor today.

i have 1,2,9,17 in GC

 

[BassNBrew]

what a move by lafay. just great! træn has a fractured elbow. o'Conner was on the floor today.

i have 1,2,9,17 in GC

2, 3, 5, 7, 19

 

[DA RAIDERS]

what a move by lafay. just great! træn has a fractured elbow. o'Conner was on the floor today.

i have 1,2,9,17 in GC

2, 3, 5, 7, 19

 

[BobbyLayne]

Stage 3 winner - Pedersen, Philipsen, or Jakobsen today

Welsford, Groenewegen, Ewan, Bauhaus, Girmay, Coquard, Strong, Cavendish, & Kristoff should all be in it

 

[BobbyLayne]

National champ Quinn Simmons at the from of the Peloton next to Powless today & I stared a little too long. I just ordered two guns, a long bed pickup, and a bald eagle landed on my fire escape.

 

[BobbyLayne]

træn has a fractured elbow.

he started today

dude had ball cancer last year, NBD

 

[BobbyLayne]

The Lanterne Rouge classification after stage 2. Bolded are sprinters who might end up in the final bunch. Didn't include Meeus bc he couldn't keep his leadout (Van Poppel) man's wheel Stage 1. Cav is strictly sentimental but I could see him taking Stage 21.

#	GC	RIDER	TEAM	TIMELAG
1	174	FEDOROV Yevgeniy	AST	41:38
2	173	BOL Cees	AST	41:38
3	172	MOSCON Gianni	AST	41:38
4	171	CAVENDISH Mark	AST	41:38
5	170	RENARD Alexis	COF	41:07
6	169	GUARNIERI Jacopo	LTD	39:47
7	168	BAUHAUS Phil	TBV	39:47
8	167	DE BUYST Jasper	LTD	38:15
9	166	LE GAC Olivier	GFC	37:07
10	165	EDMONDSON Alex	DSM	37:07
11	164	MOZZATO Luca	ARK	35:51
12	163	MEEUS Jordi	BOH	35:42
13	162	KRISTOFF Alexander	UXT	35:16
14	161	PICHON Laurent	ARK	35:16
15	160	WELSFORD Sam	DSM	35:16

 

[culdeus]

træn has a fractured elbow.

he started today

dude had ball cancer last year, NBD

Worked for lance

 

[BobbyLayne]

Le Tour has finished a stage in Bayonne 20 times; 12 of those started in Bordeaux (205 km), and 18 of the 20 were north to south, from the wine growing farmland into the Basque region. Fom 1920-24, the stage started in Les Sables-d'Olonne, France - a 482 km ride* that typically took 19-20 hours.

At least they followed that with a rest day. 2023 doesn't have it's first rest day until July 10.

*300 miles

 

[BobbyLayne]

Tour 2023 Sprinting Opportunities

tl;dr these are the stages where the sprinters have a chance:

Stages 3, 4, 7, 8, 11, 18, 19, 21

19% 79% of stages with a profile score below 70 end in a bunch sprint.

Stage 3 | 68 | Amorebieta-Etxano - Bayonne
Stage 4 | 20 | Dax - Nogaro
Stage 7 | 7 | Mont-de-Marsan - Bordeaux
Stage 8 | 61 | Libourne - Limoges
Stage 11| 34 | Clermont-Ferrand - Moulins
Stage 18| 18 | Moûtiers - Bourg-en-Bresse
Stage 19| 50 | Moirans-en-Montagne - Poligny
Stage 21| 14 | Saint-Quentin-en-Yvelines - Paris

 

[BobbyLayne]

1. Tour de France – 3.5 Billion Viewers
   (how are we watching this only on Peacock?)​

2. World Cup of Soccer – 3.3 Billion Viewers
3. Cricket World Cup – 2.6 Billion Viewers
   (whatever....I bet the World Cup Draw for Soccer is higher)
4. Summer Games – 2 Billion Viewers
5. Winter Games – 2 Billion Viewers
   (I love the Winter Olympics but it doesn't feel equal does it?
6. Women’s World Cup – 1.12 Billion Viewers
7. Boxing – 1 Billion Viewers
   (this one is surprising)
8. UEFA Champions League – 380 Million Viewers
9. Super Bowl – 112.3 Million Viewers
10. Kentucky Derby – 19 Million Viewers
11. NCAA Final Four – 18.1 Million Viewers
12. NBA Finals – 16.9 Million Viewers
13. World Series – 14.3 Million Viewers
14. The Masters – 13.16 Million Viewers
15. World Cup of Rugby- 12.8 Million Viewers
16. Wimbledon – 7.5 Million Viewers

 

[BobbyLayne]

Number of bunchsprints per edition.

YEAR	#SPRINTS
2022	4
2021	6
2020	7
2019	8
2018	9
2017	10
2016	8
2015	5
2014	8
2013	8
2012	8
2011	9
2010	7
2009	7
2008	9
2007	8
2006	7
2005	5
2004	7
2003	6

 

[BobbyLayne]

Spoiler: provisional resukts

Preliminary results.
RNK. RIDER TEAM TIME
1 PHILIPSEN Jasper Alpecin-Deceuninck 4:43:15
2 BAUHAUS Phil Bahrain - Victorious 0:00
3 EWAN Caleb Lotto Dstny 0:00
4 JAKOBSEN Fabio Soudal - Quick Step 0:00
5 VAN AERT Wout Jumbo-Visma 0:00
6 CAVENDISH Mark Astana Qazaqstan Team 0:00
7 MEEUS Jordi BORA - hansgrohe 0:00
8 GROENEWEGEN Dylan Team Jayco AlUla 0:00
9 PEDERSEN Mads Lidl - Trek 0:00
10 COQUARD Bryan Cofidis 0:00

 

[BobbyLayne]

Camera work left a lot to be desired. Live it looked like a deviation but on replay it wasn't dirty. There shouldn't be a bend like that in a sprint finish.

 

[Jaysus]

I think that Philipsen held a straighter line than the barriers did.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Spoiler: imo

MvdP becoming world's best leadout man, Morkov would be proud.

All of Alpecin looked very strong in the final bit - timed their move to the front perfectly to come out of those last two big turns in perfect position to control the sprint.

 

[BobbyLayne]

you cannot pick out new green jersey in overhead shots at all - looks like a 9th Bora rider

 

[BobbyLayne]

Spoiler: Stage 3 results

• 1 349 Boerum Hill Big Ringing BobbyLayne
• 2 327 RB Brownwings WGUAFC Jaysus
• 3 305 Spokes `n Tokes Nick Vermeil
• 4 301 Sand`s Saddle Sores BassNBrew
• 5 269 Forcats de la Route ForzaShels
• 6 213 Let`s Go Brandon! ...McNulty Sand
• 7 192 bilingual lebanese thespians zmanzzzz
• 8 189 Armstrong`s Needle Da Raiders
• 9 179 Squeaky Wheels Cheeseypoof
• 10 165 Monte crappe sammy3469
• 11 136 Bags Of Blood culdeus

 

[BobbyLayne]

I don't understand Assist points. O'Connor gets dropped, 3 minutes out the back, Peters goes back to single handedly drag him back to the head of the peloton - zero points.

Laegen takes a couple short turns at the front on the flattest part of the stage and gets 12 Assist points.

UAE team has 50 Ast pts /rider so far, JV 28, next highest team is like 12. Guess you only get them if you are your team is pacing the race for a sector (or something.)

 

[Jaysus]

I don't understand Assist points. O'Connor gets dropped, 3 minutes out the back, Peters goes back to single handedly drag him back to the head of the peloton - zero points.

Laegen takes a couple short turns at the front on the flattest part of the stage and gets 12 Assist points.

UAE team has 50 Ast pts /rider so far, JV 28, next highest team is like 12. Guess you only get them if you are your team is pacing the race for a sector (or something.)

I thought it was just based on their teammate's overall rankings

 

[DA RAIDERS]

I don't understand Assist points. O'Connor gets dropped, 3 minutes out the back, Peters goes back to single handedly drag him back to the head of the peloton - zero points.

Laegen takes a couple short turns at the front on the flattest part of the stage and gets 12 Assist points.

UAE team has 50 Ast pts /rider so far, JV 28, next highest team is like 12. Guess you only get them if you are your team is pacing the race for a sector (or something.)

I thought it was just based on their teammate's overall rankings

Lol. I thought it was only based on individual stage Finishes. Your guys wins, you get points. And I think it goes down a few spots. At least to 3rd. I could be totally wrong though

 

[DA RAIDERS]

Bass n brews cofidis rider has 8 assist points. No clue really.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

I was half right. They also get points for team rankings.

Your riders will score points for Daily Stage Performance (stage result, positions in intermediate sprints and mountain summits, being in the breakaway, and team assists for a teammate winning the stage), Daily Classification Standings (position in the general classification, mountains classification and points classification at the end of each day, plus team assist points for the position of the rider's team in the teams classification) and Final End-of-Tour classifications (final standings in the general classification, mountains classification, points classification, and team assist points for the team's performance in the overall teams classification).

 

[DA RAIDERS]

I deliberated the longest about O’Connor. Starting to think I should have left him off my squad.

 

[BobbyLayne]

There are rules, Smokey

 

[BobbyLayne]

I deliberated the longest about O’Connor. Starting to think I should have left him off my squad.

when he won that killer mountain stage two years ago on 4th of july - just destroyed everybody, 6 minutes better than Pogi & the fishmonger - I was like alright, another young rider who is ready to be in the conversation.

kind of hasn't done jack since. pretty decent Vuelta last fall but not as good as I hoped he would become.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

I deliberated the longest about O’Connor. Starting to think I should have left him off my squad.

when he won that killer mountain stage two years ago on 4th of july - just destroyed everybody, 6 minutes better than Pogi & the fishmonger - I was like alright, another young rider who is ready to be in the conversation.

kind of hasn't done jack since. pretty decent Vuelta last fall but not as good as I hoped he would become.

Yea. I expected more after the dauphine. We’ll see. It’s early. He’s just having all sorts of dumb stuff happen

 

[BobbyLayne]

I deliberated the longest about O’Connor. Starting to think I should have left him off my squad.

when he won that killer mountain stage two years ago on 4th of july - just destroyed everybody, 6 minutes better than Pogi & the fishmonger - I was like alright, another young rider who is ready to be in the conversation.

kind of hasn't done jack since. pretty decent Vuelta last fall but not as good as I hoped he would become.

Yea. I expected more after the dauphine. We’ll see. It’s early. He’s just having all sorts of dumb stuff happen

bunch of them had flats from morons throwing tacks on the road, maybe that happened to him today

& yeah he looked great in the dolphin

 

[BobbyLayne]

Independence Day stage is mostly flat, one Cat 4 climb 37 km from the finish. Final section is on the first purpose built motorsport track ever built in France (1960.)

Usual suspects are favorites:

• |***| Jasper Philipsen, Fabio Jakobsen, Dylan Groenewegen
• |** | Wout van Aert, Mads Pedersen, Caleb Ewan, Mark Cavendish
• |* | Sam Welsford, Biniam Girmay, Phil Bauhaus
  

 

[BassNBrew]

1. Tour de France – 3.5 Billion Viewers
   (how are we watching this only on Peacock?)​

2. World Cup of Soccer – 3.3 Billion Viewers
3. Cricket World Cup – 2.6 Billion Viewers
   (whatever....I bet the World Cup Draw for Soccer is higher)
4. Summer Games – 2 Billion Viewers
5. Winter Games – 2 Billion Viewers
   (I love the Winter Olympics but it doesn't feel equal does it?
6. Women’s World Cup – 1.12 Billion Viewers
7. Boxing – 1 Billion Viewers
   (this one is surprising)
8. UEFA Champions League – 380 Million Viewers
9. Super Bowl – 112.3 Million Viewers
10. Kentucky Derby – 19 Million Viewers
11. NCAA Final Four – 18.1 Million Viewers
12. NBA Finals – 16.9 Million Viewers
13. World Series – 14.3 Million Viewers
14. The Masters – 13.16 Million Viewers
15. World Cup of Rugby- 12.8 Million Viewers
16. Wimbledon – 7.5 Million Viewers

I'm not buying that cycling is outdrawing soccer in viewership.

 

[BassNBrew]

Tour 2023 Sprinting Opportunities

tl;dr these are the stages where the sprinters have a chance:

Stages 3, 4, 7, 8, 11, 18, 19, 21

19% 79% of stages with a profile score below 70 end in a bunch sprint.

Stage 3 | 68 | Amorebieta-Etxano - Bayonne
Stage 4 | 20 | Dax - Nogaro
Stage 7 | 7 | Mont-de-Marsan - Bordeaux
Stage 8 | 61 | Libourne - Limoges
Stage 11| 34 | Clermont-Ferrand - Moulins
Stage 18| 18 | Moûtiers - Bourg-en-Bresse
Stage 19| 50 | Moirans-en-Montagne - Poligny
Stage 21| 14 | Saint-Quentin-en-Yvelines - Paris

I probably should have hung onto Phillipsen instead of switching to Van Aert. I had looked at these stages and thought the "it's a GC tour setup" was overblown.

 

[BassNBrew]

Overall Rank: 649 of 30501

 

[BassNBrew]

Here's the first place team

Tadej Pogačar

UAE Team Emirates​

24​

​

320​

74​

18​

20​

-​

-​

-​

36​

468​

Neilson Powless

EF Education-EasyPost​

8​

​

-​

-​

-​

36​

28​

-​

40​

-​

104​

Thibaut Pinot

Groupama - FDJ​

10​

​

140​

18​

2​

-​

-​

-​

-​

2​

162​

Michael Woods

Israel - Premier Tech​

8​

​

230​

44​

5​

-​

-​

-​

-​

-​

279​

Dylan Groenewegen

Team Jayco AlUla​

10​

​

80​

-​

-​

-​

1​

-​

-​

12​

93​

Thomas Pidcock

INEOS Grenadiers​

10​

​

140​

10​

-​

-​

-​

-​

-​

4​

154​

Victor Lafay

Cofidis​

6​

​

330​

51​

24​

-​

12​

-​

-​

-​

417​

Rémi Cavagna

Soudal - Quick Step​

6​

​

-​

-​

-​

-​

16​

-​

20​

-​

36​

Wout Van Aert

 

[Sand]

Love the time bonus at the top of the climb in stage 2. It added a good bit to the stage. Are there more? Couldn't find that.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Love the time bonus at the top of the climb in stage 2. It added a good bit to the stage. Are there more? Couldn't find that.

I haven't been able to find a list of mountain stages with bonuses but kept hearing about them in previews. I noticed the stage profiles have a B above the climbs that have the 8/5/2 second bonuses.

• Stage 2
• Stage 5
• Stage 12
• Stage 14

Interesting that 9, 13, 15 and 17 don't have them. When it's freaking hard (or long) climb where GC is going to crush the field, no need to throw a bonus in there to incentify going for the crest bc they'll already be going all out.

 

[Sand]

Love the time bonus at the top of the climb in stage 2. It added a good bit to the stage. Are there more? Couldn't find that.

I haven't been able to find a list of mountain stages with bonuses but kept hearing about them in previews. I noticed the stage profiles have a B above the climbs that have the 8/5/2 second bonuses.

• Stage 2
• Stage 5
• Stage 12
• Stage 14

Interesting that 9, 13, 15 and 17 don't have them. When it's freaking hard (or long) climb where GC is going to crush the field, no need to throw a bonus in there to incentify going for the crest bc they'll already be going all out.

True, but at least in stage 2 it was pretty compelling. We'll see what the rest are like.

 

[BobbyLayne]

Love the time bonus at the top of the climb in stage 2. It added a good bit to the stage. Are there more? Couldn't find that.

I haven't been able to find a list of mountain stages with bonuses but kept hearing about them in previews. I noticed the stage profiles have a B above the climbs that have the 8/5/2 second bonuses.

• Stage 2
• Stage 5
• Stage 12
• Stage 14

Interesting that 9, 13, 15 and 17 don't have them. When it's freaking hard (or long) climb where GC is going to crush the field, no need to throw a bonus in there to incentify going for the crest bc they'll already be going all out.

True, but at least in stage 2 it was pretty compelling. We'll see what the rest are like.

yeah Tadej def made picking up time bonuses / putting pressure on the fishmonger a weekend priority. on Sunday Trentin kept riding to the front to tell Majka to dial it back (at least twice in animated conversations) to dial the pace back & the Pole wasn’t haven’t it. then he dropped back to the car to talk to the DS.

these stages might be wearing on people in ten days. def not the standard casual prologue/TT/flat stage rollouts we’re used to, and no early break in the first 5 days.

 

[BassNBrew]

I going to spoil it...this sucks today. I think I might head outside and watch the local group ride for some excitement.