fred_1_15301
Footballguy
And yes I get that the shift was on but come the **** on
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Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
I guess I can at least be happy for dusty
DJackson10
Footballguy
We're playing with house $$$$ at this point. We didn't expect to be here in June especially after Blake Snell broke Harper's wrist on my birthday. However we got rid of the fraud manager and took Topper with us. Our pitching got better as the year went on and we got ourselves a cool #3 in Ranger Suarez.
Losing this sucks especially to the Astros but this is like Losing to the Patriots when they were cheating. Cool you beat us lets see if you can do it without cheating.
Losing this sucks especially to the Astros but this is like Losing to the Patriots when they were cheating. Cool you beat us lets see if you can do it without cheating.
Major
Footballguy
I'll bite. How are they cheating this series?
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
None of this even matters if the Phils lose. There is no consolation prize here.
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
They probably can
identikit
Footballguy
Happy belated birthday!!!!!
DJackson10
Footballguy
Why dude is notorious as one of the biggest cheats manager wise. Handing out PEDS like candy and managed the two biggest frauds in Bonds and Sosa. The guy is a big fraud as well.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Highly doubt it. The Astros weren't anything special roster wise till they cheated. Most of the guys who were there numbers have gone down since then. I mean we literally beat the patriots when they couldn't cheat anymore.
DJackson10
Footballguy
UM he's out
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Well Hello Mr sunshine
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Good lord dude. The Astros cheated like 4 or 5 years ago. If the Phils lose this game, it has absolutely nothing to do with their opponent cheating. Give it a break.
DJackson10
Footballguy
Not when Dusty Baker is their manager biggest fraud and cheat for yrs. This guy covered for bonds and Sosa for yrs. One of the least deserving of a ring these days
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
You must really hate the 93 Phillies then
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Has a WS ever ended with a fly ball caught in foul territory?
Major
Footballguy
Yeah, whether you like the Astros or not, seeing him finally get a ring Is pretty awesome. Good player and a great manager over the years.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
Wow I would be shocked if that has never happened before.
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
It looks like about a half dozen times: https://www.baseball-almanac.com/ws/world_series_final_outs.shtml
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
This Houston crowd just seems subdued. Do they even realize that their team just won a championship?
Yankees in 96. KeBryan Hayes’ dad making the catch at 3rd
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
And then I learned that Charlie Hayes is the father of Ke’Bryan Hayes.
Major
Footballguy
Yeah, Houston fans are fairly subdued. You can wear the opponents gear with pride down here and not worry about getting killed. Sometimes I wish the crowd was more like BOS/NYC/PHI
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
You need to blame the Phillies for not being able to hit the ball 3 straight games.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Booooo
Major
Footballguy
I need to bet on baseball more often
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
Papi about to get a visit from CPS.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Absolutely hate the Astros. Cheaters. But was cheering for Mattress Mack. $75M. Pay the man his money. Would love to be in that Sportsbook line
dickey moe
Fingerpicker
They have stats for which relief pitchers took a crap in the 2nd inning.
GregR
Footballguy
This is part of the problem managers are getting caught in for playoff series situations. They over use their RP's to the point that they lose a lot of their advantage (not being seen by the batters a lot). You run a guy out there 4 or 5 times over the course of a week and the batters get a big uptick in their live looks which really helps them vs a pitcher. Pulling starters way early and getting deep into your pen every game eventually takes its toll and Alvarado was the victim.
This is where playoff managing and analytics collide. In a series sometimes you need to see how a particular game is going and in this case Wheeler was shoving it. A hit batter and a dribbler does not equate to the other team starting to get on a pitcher. For this particular game and that pitch count Wheeler needed to be trusted. Then when you factor in Alvarado coming out for his 4th appearance in 6 games within a week you are compounding the issue.
Analytics are built on the long haul of a 162 game season and works much better in the regular season. In a 7 game series over the course of a week it's a small sample size so you need to also factor in the current game flow/situation. It's a different beast and these managers don't trust the situations enough. It may not burn them early but going to the bullpen so early and overusing them will eventually catch up to them as the series goes to 6 or 7 games. It's one of the reasons the Dodgers haven't faired well int he playoffs. Roberts is a terrible playoff manager because he doesn't have this feel and overuses his pen way to early and it bites him by the end of the series.
I guess you didn't watch the pitch. Maldonado brought his arm into his body to protect his ribs. That was his attempt to get out of the way. He did not throw his elbow out over the plate to try and get hit like what happened earlier in the series. Trying to avoid getting hit on 95+ mph fastballs mixed with breaking balls where you have to decide in miliseconds is not easy to do. Sometimes you also get "frozen" by a pitch when you are looking for some other pitch and can't do anything. The only way a guy is going to be kept at home after getting hit is if it's an off speed pitch where he doesn't move at all (and then he likely still gets awarded first because of the "frozen" aspect) or where a batter moves across the plate to purposely get hit by the ball that wasn't going to hit him in the first place (like what happened earlier).
This situation is baseball. Maldanado made an adjustment to move in on the plate and Wheeler came too far inside. Nothing wrong with any of it.
GregR
Footballguy
Went to Academy Sports at 11:30pm the night of the win. I'd estimate the line of people outside waiting to get into the store was at 200 people.
Left, went back the next morning at 9 am. There were about 30 people in line outside.
Finally went back today and picked up a few shirts and things. Parade is getting underway soon. Expecting a million people at it. Going to watch it on TV.
Left, went back the next morning at 9 am. There were about 30 people in line outside.
Finally went back today and picked up a few shirts and things. Parade is getting underway soon. Expecting a million people at it. Going to watch it on TV.
fred_1_15301
Footballguy
It seems like most of the fans are still upset/mourning but not a lot of blaming the manager. I think the fans here are smart and realize how good of a job this guy did getting them this far. He made a bad decision in one game. It happens. For the most part, he pushed all the right buttons in these playoffs.
Encyclopedia Brown
Footballguy
How is Thomson not a finalist for NL Manager of the Year? Buck, Roberts and Snitker are the finalists.
Thomson took a fledgling team with a defense filled with DH's, and his star player out for months, a crappy bullpen, all the way to Game 6 of the World Series.
EDIT: ballots were submitted before postseason began. I still think he deserves to be a finalist.
Thomson took a fledgling team with a defense filled with DH's, and his star player out for months, a crappy bullpen, all the way to Game 6 of the World Series.
EDIT: ballots were submitted before postseason began. I still think he deserves to be a finalist.
Major
Footballguy
The Academy off 59/Kriby? I live over there and it's been slammed every time I've passed by. Saw.a long line there well after 1am on championship night. I guess we don't have any other professional franchises competing at the moment so makes sense.
GregR
Footballguy
The one across the street from West Oaks mall.
BeTheMatch
Footballguy
Jays trade Teoscar to the Mariners. Hot Stove season off and running.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
Trea Turner is a Phillie, Xander Bogaerts is a Padre and Aaron Judge is still a Yankee. All are very, very rich men.
This must mean that the Padres are significantly worried about Tatis moving forward.
Pip's Invitation
Footballguy
They’re moving him to the OF. They also tried to sign Judge so they were on the rampage for more big names. Not sure if we can read any more into it than that at this point.
snellman
Footballguy
Bite me.
Good for SF. I would have enjoyed seeing Correa stay in MN because he was a huge asset to the team, not only in talent but leadership. However, there was no way the Twins were going to go past 10 years and I cant blame them for that. I don't think there is any way that it looks like a good deal in year 13, but I understand why it was given. I have to admit, it was kind of fun swimming in the ocean because the Twins normally don't swim there.
Yeah, I don't think anybody thinks so. These are just deferred contracts. And $27 million is going to be worth a lot less in 13 years due to inflation than it is today.
