**OFFICIAL 2025 Draft Thread - Green Bay Opens The Door For Guests** (3 Viewers)

[Uruk-Hai]

I was wondering where this thread went. I thought maybe someone had posted something political and got it nuked

I don't have a feel for what Baltimore will do in regards to specific players tonight, but I expect it'll be from the OL/DL/Edge/CB buckets. They are not afraid to double-dip, either.

The more I think about the Starks pick in Round #1, the more I like it. That's not me trying to talk myself into it. I really believe a Starks/Hamilton/Washington/Wiggins/Humphrey defensive backfield is multi-dimensional and is going to be a handful for opposing players (except for Jamar Chase, who will always get 400 yards a game against the Ravens until he's 85 years old - it may drop to 300/game when he turns 86).

I mean, there was an embarrassment of riches laying there for Baltimore, Detroit, Washington, Philly, and KC at the end of RD 1. And some of the really good players in that pile are still on the board. It'll be interesting to see if any of those teams try to move up and grab one.

why move up when the good players will just fall to you? the rich get richer. But yeah it depends on how deep all their boards go here with rd 2 talent

And most of them won't. Just thinking that if - for example - Philly is in love with Mike Green above all others left on their board, they may go get him.

I left Buffalo out of my comment above. Sorry, Bills brothers and sisters. Love the Hairston pick.

 

[Snotbubbles]

I was wondering where this thread went. I thought maybe someone had posted something political and got it nuked

I don't have a feel for what Baltimore will do in regards to specific players tonight, but I expect it'll be from the OL/DL/Edge/CB buckets. They are not afraid to double-dip, either.

The more I think about the Starks pick in Round #1, the more I like it. That's not me trying to talk myself into it. I really believe a Starks/Hamilton/Washington/Wiggins/Humphrey defensive backfield is multi-dimensional and is going to be a handful for opposing players (except for Jamar Chase, who will always get 400 yards a game against the Ravens until he's 85 years old - it may drop to 300/game when he turns 86).

I mean, there was an embarrassment of riches laying there for Baltimore, Detroit, Washington, Philly, and KC at the end of RD 1. And some of the really good players in that pile are still on the board. It'll be interesting to see if any of those teams try to move up and grab one.

why move up when the good players will just fall to you? the rich get richer. But yeah it depends on how deep all their boards go here with rd 2 talent

And most of them won't. Just thinking that if - for example - Philly is in love with Mike Green above all others left on their board, they may go get him.

I left Buffalo out of my comment above. Sorry, Bills brothers and sisters. Love the Hairston pick.

Howie Roseman Says Eagles Don't Scout Players with a History of Violence Against Women

This clip is making the rounds on social media. It is actually weeks old, and comes from the Todd McShay podcast episode where Howie Roseman made the sex quip about winning his second Super Bowl. I guess nobody, us included, actually watched the entire podcast, because there was a separate topic...

www.crossingbroad.com

According to this, Mike Green would be on the Eagles do not draft list.

But they did do that last year with Cooper Dejean.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

I was wondering where this thread went. I thought maybe someone had posted something political and got it nuked

I don't have a feel for what Baltimore will do in regards to specific players tonight, but I expect it'll be from the OL/DL/Edge/CB buckets. They are not afraid to double-dip, either.

The more I think about the Starks pick in Round #1, the more I like it. That's not me trying to talk myself into it. I really believe a Starks/Hamilton/Washington/Wiggins/Humphrey defensive backfield is multi-dimensional and is going to be a handful for opposing players (except for Jamar Chase, who will always get 400 yards a game against the Ravens until he's 85 years old - it may drop to 300/game when he turns 86).

I mean, there was an embarrassment of riches laying there for Baltimore, Detroit, Washington, Philly, and KC at the end of RD 1. And some of the really good players in that pile are still on the board. It'll be interesting to see if any of those teams try to move up and grab one.

why move up when the good players will just fall to you? the rich get richer. But yeah it depends on how deep all their boards go here with rd 2 talent

And most of them won't. Just thinking that if - for example - Philly is in love with Mike Green above all others left on their board, they may go get him.

I left Buffalo out of my comment above. Sorry, Bills brothers and sisters. Love the Hairston pick.

Howie Roseman Says Eagles Don't Scout Players with a History of Violence Against Women

This clip is making the rounds on social media. It is actually weeks old, and comes from the Todd McShay podcast episode where Howie Roseman made the sex quip about winning his second Super Bowl. I guess nobody, us included, actually watched the entire podcast, because there was a separate topic...

www.crossingbroad.com

According to this, Mike Green would be on the Eagles do not draft list.

Yeah, I was just using that name as example.

 

[Joe Bryant]

So good.

https://x.com/FOS/status/1915783105928991158

Packers wide receiver Matthew Golden says his first purchase after being drafted will be his grandmother's house."We lost our property a couple of years ago... it'd be a blessing to get that back for my family."

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

over 18000 drafts completed in this one tourney that is almost sold out. underdog bestball is not an obscure bubble. again, I'm not taking him this early either

I believe you.

My experience with BB is limited. But that still seems foolish and IMO it doesn’t reflect what redraft leagues will be doing in closer to the season.

Also, 18K is a drop of water in the ocean compared to to millions of drafts in August/seltember. That would be .018% of 1M drafts, so it really is kind of an obscure bubble despite sounding like a large number.

Whatever - not a hill I need to die on.

 

[GregR]

I was wondering where this thread went. I thought maybe someone had posted something political and got it nuked

I don't have a feel for what Baltimore will do in regards to specific players tonight, but I expect it'll be from the OL/DL/Edge/CB buckets. They are not afraid to double-dip, either.

The more I think about the Starks pick in Round #1, the more I like it. That's not me trying to talk myself into it. I really believe a Starks/Hamilton/Washington/Wiggins/Humphrey defensive backfield is multi-dimensional and is going to be a handful for opposing players (except for Jamar Chase, who will always get 400 yards a game against the Ravens until he's 85 years old - it may drop to 300/game when he turns 86).

I mean, there was an embarrassment of riches laying there for Baltimore, Detroit, Washington, Philly, and KC at the end of RD 1. And some of the really good players in that pile are still on the board. It'll be interesting to see if any of those teams try to move up and grab one.

why move up when the good players will just fall to you? the rich get richer. But yeah it depends on how deep all their boards go here with rd 2 talent

And most of them won't. Just thinking that if - for example - Philly is in love with Mike Green above all others left on their board, they may go get him.

I left Buffalo out of my comment above. Sorry, Bills brothers and sisters. Love the Hairston pick.

Howie Roseman Says Eagles Don't Scout Players with a History of Violence Against Women

This clip is making the rounds on social media. It is actually weeks old, and comes from the Todd McShay podcast episode where Howie Roseman made the sex quip about winning his second Super Bowl. I guess nobody, us included, actually watched the entire podcast, because there was a separate topic...

www.crossingbroad.com

According to this, Mike Green would be on the Eagles do not draft list.

But they did do that last year with Cooper Dejean.

I saw today that Breer forecast his drop due to those cases. One was from high school, one was when he was a freshman at Virginia. At some point a team will figure the talent makes him worth the chance, but sometimes will just say no, period.

 

[travdogg]

Everyone ready for an hour+ of "why hasn't Shedeur Sanders gone yet?"

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Yeah Henderson to Denver might do it. They pick at 51 though and I'm not sure he'll last past Chicago twice, Dallas or even a dark horse like Cleveland twice or Tennessee. But they can probably also just stay put and let another solid back fall to them.

Calling my shot I think Cleveland wants a back but is happy to keep falling back and will trade pick 33 or 36 right off the bat to Denver or Dallas. I don't think Chicago needs it that badly. And I do think Henderson is in a remaining tier of RBs by himself so he *might* be considered a prize right now. I don't think Judkins or Skattebo or Johnson are going until round 3 or 4. If there is a surprise tonight it will be Harvey, Sampson, Brooks or maybe Tuten. I think that after Henderson teams will be happy to let backs fall to them.

I know we were talking 1.2 with Hampton
not sure how to quote properly in dfferent threads but thought this was an appropriate spot to talk RBs going tonight
Wouldn't be completely shocked to see Cleveland take Henderson right here at 33 but someone will take him soon.
I feel like Judkins and Johnson go round 2 with Henderson and then like 4 more guys including Skatteboo go round 3

Who’s Pittsburgh taking?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Everyone ready for an hour+ of "why hasn't Shedeur Sanders gone yet?"

He’s gonna get picked.

Just maybe not in round 2.

 

[boilerdave]

Question for the SP
-Would the Colts think about taking a QB tonight?
ARich has already made an impression, reports are still not glowing and they could be in position tonight if Milroe, Shough or Sanders are around

Man I hope they don't.

 

[IHEARTFF]

Yeah Henderson to Denver might do it. They pick at 51 though and I'm not sure he'll last past Chicago twice, Dallas or even a dark horse like Cleveland twice or Tennessee. But they can probably also just stay put and let another solid back fall to them.

Calling my shot I think Cleveland wants a back but is happy to keep falling back and will trade pick 33 or 36 right off the bat to Denver or Dallas. I don't think Chicago needs it that badly. And I do think Henderson is in a remaining tier of RBs by himself so he *might* be considered a prize right now. I don't think Judkins or Skattebo or Johnson are going until round 3 or 4. If there is a surprise tonight it will be Harvey, Sampson, Brooks or maybe Tuten. I think that after Henderson teams will be happy to let backs fall to them.

I know we were talking 1.2 with Hampton
not sure how to quote properly in dfferent threads but thought this was an appropriate spot to talk RBs going tonight
Wouldn't be completely shocked to see Cleveland take Henderson right here at 33 but someone will take him soon.
I feel like Judkins and Johnson go round 2 with Henderson and then like 4 more guys including Skatteboo go round 3

Who’s Pittsburgh taking?

Probably someone quite good rd 3/4 so Rodgers can check out of runs

 

[IHEARTFF]

le browns

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Dallas "C-/D+" - Tyler Booker OG, Alabama...always risky taking a Guard in the Top 10-12 picks and Dallas decided to rebuild their OL, all good intentions.
Booker grades out in some circles as a 2nd round prospect and gets knocked around surprisingly more often than he should. Some of this could just be knit picky
He's likely better than anything they have right now, good blocking elevates the QB and the entire offense.
But he's not a sure fire hit and Dallas invested a very high pick at a position many teams want to try and fill in the 3rd-6th rounds.

Good luck to the Cowboys, nothing personal but I didn't see this as a move that is going to put them in contention for the Division this season

Fully agree, the Booker pick was an exercise in grossly overcompensating for one's needs regardless of value. Its the 2nd worst pick of round 1 in my opinion, behind their fellow NFC East team:

I think this Jaxson Dart pick is gonna end up being the worst pick of the draft. I'll explain why, because its not just about Dart. Dart is a raw QB from a gimmicky offense who they traded up for (raising expectations) with a lame duck GM/HC. So unless the Giants greatly exceed expectations, and I think that means make the playoffs, I think Scheon/Daboll are both gone. So what are the chances a new GM/HC are gonna wanna attach their jobs on a raw prospect QB, who they didn't even draft?

This was an awful pick, and maybe the worst possible landing spot for Dart. He's probably the #3 QB this year, and if he does play, he's likely greatly overmatched, which only hurts him more, and then the Giants are likely to start the entire process over again. I think the Giants basically just set their 2nd and 3rd round picks on fire. They shouldn't have taken a QB at all.

I was going to give them a solid "D/D-" but to be honest with all the bickering between Philly and Dallas of late around here, I'm trying to be respectful

-I have some really good posters that will engage and go back and forth with me that are Cowboys fans so I didn't want to pile on but I felt so good when they took him right before the Phins.
Despite my irritation in the moment last night when they passed on Barron, and also due to my fellow Dolphin fan @Man In The Box it's obvious Miami got a blue chip at DT no matter how you want to look at it. I think Barron plus any DT tonight would be the best path but Kenny Grant plus Johnson, Rev, Morrison or Amos will work tonight, if Miami passes on DB in the 2nd I'll be shocked.

-Also support Miami taking a 2nd IDL/DT tonight to make Sieler-Grant(R)-Impact Rookie Tonight their new 3 man wrecking crew with Chop-Chubb-Phillips wrapped around it on Edge
Miami would take a step in the right direction on Defense.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

@travdogg
BTW...who had the worst pick int he 1st Rd? I might have missed your post where you worte about it

 

[GregR]

Question for the SP
-Would the Colts think about taking a QB tonight?
ARich has already made an impression, reports are still not glowing and they could be in position tonight if Milroe, Shough or Sanders are around

Man I hope they don't.

They definitely should not.

(Said as a Texans fan)

 

[crushedspirit]

Who?

 

[travdogg]

Don't dislike either pick they've made, but its interesting the Browns have just decided to ignore offense so far.

 

[travdogg]

@travdogg
BTW...who had the worst pick int he 1st Rd? I might have missed your post where you worte about it

I just wanted to flesh out my reasons more and kept finding more.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Schwesinger - LB at No 33 for the Browns?

Hmmm...they won the trade last night but if these are the picks they are going to be making
I think they could have grabbed a MLB later, he's not an Edge type LB, not a big blitzing type LB
I'm not wild at all about this

 

[IHEARTFF]

Hou Higgins wow bump Stroud

 

[GregR]

Good with WR. Just didn't see the value in taking O-line at 34. Too many guys at other positions of need who were better than the O-line out there.

 

[Ilov80s]

I can not believe the Louisviulle QB could go this round. 26 years old with injury concerns and a lack of starting experience? Like what the actual heck is that? I would be sick if my team took him.

 

[crushedspirit]

So did Texans forget to draft OL

 

[Ilov80s]

Hou Higgins wow bump Stroud

Bump Higgins too, he just became a very sexy dynasty pick

 

[IHEARTFF]

So did Texans forget to draft OL

I think there’s a little drop off after the rd 1 OL guys

 

[JohnnyU]

Hou Higgins wow bump Stroud

Higgins before Burden. How are people feeling about Burden these days?

 

[travdogg]

I can not believe the Louisviulle QB could go this round. 26 years old with injury concerns and a lack of starting experience? Like what the actual heck is that? I would be sick if my team took him.

I don't get him at all. On tape he looks scared of getting touched, which I mean, 2 broken collarbones and a broken leg in 3 years, I get it, but that doesn't mean its ok. I can understand Dart, even if I disagree, but I have no idea why he'd go ahead of Milroe or Sanders.

 

[crushedspirit]

Not big on Higgins, but okay

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Texans decide to go RB in a deep class vs a WR in a class where after a couple more names you start losing hope in a bright outlook for 2025
Not sure that was the right move at No 34

 

[Ilov80s]

I can not believe the Louisviulle QB could go this round. 26 years old with injury concerns and a lack of starting experience? Like what the actual heck is that? I would be sick if my team took him.

I don't get him at all. On tape he looks scared of getting touched, which I mean, 2 broken collarbones and a broken leg in 3 years, I get it, but that doesn't mean its ok. I can understand Dart, even if I disagree, but I have no idea why he'd go ahead of Milroe or Sanders.

Agree, it's the one of the most puzzling prospects I've heard of in awhile. And it's not like he's got Lamar level athleticism or something. There is nothing special about him.

 

[ChiefD]

Hou Higgins wow bump Stroud

Higgins before Burden. How are people feeling about Burden these days?

Watched a few games of him at Mizzou.

Not a fan. He’s just a guy imo.

 

[IHEARTFF]

Hou Higgins wow bump Stroud

Higgins before Burden. How are people feeling about Burden these days?

He’ll probably go very soon and can’t land worse than Golden or Egbuka

 

[calcinorjones]

I think Seattle gives up 2nd (52) and 3rd (82)

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Titans trade down, Seattle must be hot for this guy
Emmanwori at Safety
A lot of folks like him and it adds some pop to their Secondary

Feels like a good move for them

 

[Uncle Leo]

Browns …Sanders or Milroe?

 

[travdogg]

Nice trade down by the Titans, picking up a 3 to move down half a round.

 

[GregR]

Texans decide to go RB in a deep class vs a WR in a class where after a couple more names you start losing hope in a bright outlook for 2025
Not sure that was the right move at No 34

Decide to go RB? What?

 

[IHEARTFF]

Nice trade down by the Titans, picking up a 3 to move down half a round.

Wonder if they were eyeing Higgins too

 

[Ilov80s]

Oh wow dynasty drafts getting interesting now, Judkins to the Browns. That is a very very good spot.

 

[eighsse2]

Browns gotta take Sanders here, right? Taking him at #2 I thought would've been the Brownsiest thing ever. Trading down to get Graham and then getting Sanders in the second instead would be very savvy.

Edit: Nope. Interesting.

 

[travdogg]

Think the Browns took the wrong Ohio State RB. Good call not forcing a QB here at least.

 

[IHEARTFF]

Wow sad trombone for Jerome Ford

 

[travdogg]

Wow sad trombone for Jerome Ford

He'll be just good enough to hurt Judkins.

 

[crushedspirit]

I like Judkins. Not sure if Chubb is coming back

 

[Buckna]

Judkins over Treyveon? Guess all the hype stories about Treyveon shooting up draft boards may have just been smoke and mirrors

 

[IHEARTFF]

Miami wants somebody coming up for 48 to 37

 

[calcinorjones]

Miami gets aggressive

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Dolphins Trade Up!
-I'm scared

 

[JohnnyU]

Why Jerome, you look like someone just walked over your grave.

 

[travdogg]

Miami wants somebody coming up for 48 to 37

Maybe double up on Wolverine defenders with Johnson?

ETA: Oof, nevermind.