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***Official 2025 Golf Thread,, woz humblebrags he's secretly a plus hcp*** (3 Viewers)
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Footballguy
I'm the invitee.
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I’m playing in another member guest in Mesa.
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Shot 76 day 3. My liver now hates me but pleased with my play. Didn't lose a ball the entire tournament which makes two in a row.
Wasn't without controversy. One of the better teams in our flight consisted of a member with his guest that was the former assistant pro at the course. They're both ~3 handicaps but didn't play that great day one. I didn't see it, but apparently the assistant pro has a history with one of the other members and genuinely always disliked the guy. His frustration boiled over into what was described as an ugly incident where the victim member did something childish to annoy him, and the former assistant pro turned guest screamed something like, "I don't have to put up with your **** anymore" and slammed his head into the table. The guest presumably quickly realized how bad that was and got on a plane back to his home.
Now, here's the controversy: the assistant pro was replaced by a very good member with a similar handicap. He goes low the next two days in the Stableford format and they edge us out by .5 for second overall in the flight. I'm not the member so I told my partner that seemed odd that they could still qualify to cash. And that .5 difference amount to ~$2k in money we arguably should have won and it caused the 4th place team (only lost to us by .5) and that cost them $1500. Head pro called my partner today and acknowledged that the team should have been DQ'ed (maybe letting the non-offending member bring another guest and just qualify for skins or something) but said they will "make it right." So, whatever that means...
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Judge Smails
Footballguy
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Yeah pretty embarrassing for this club. My friend/partner/the member was pretty frustrated.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Great lesson today. Wife started her parental leave this week for our baby girl so now I can go play Thursday morning first off the tees...life is pretty good!
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Update: the two assistant pros tasked with running this tournament put in their notice yesterday. My assumption is that they bore the brunt of the blame for what happened even though that seems unfair to me that they would have been expected to make the tough call when the offender is literally their former boss and his member partner is a well respected member/player.
No update as to how the club is going to "make it right."
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Footballguy
I generally enjoy them (figure a putt for a few thousand dollars is the closest I'll get to doing something with a sport professionally) and I find that usually the handicaps are far better policed and verified leading to a more competitive and fair tournament. But they really up the need for the club putting it on to step up with organization and apply the actual rules and perhaps make a tough, unpopular decision while doing so.
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Pretty much. With the added absurdity here that the "lunatic" was the course's prior assistant pro.
The Gator
Footballguy
Me too
Instinctive
Footballguy
yeah I mean if not for that kind of stuff it's all we'd do, and just rake it in.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Ok interesting question as my wife and I consider our next career steps:
What is the best state (or even city) to live in if golfing a ton is your priority? Cost matters too. Variety of courses easily accessible geographically but also access to decent tee times shoudl factor in. Weather obviously matters - you couldn't convince me Wisconsin/Illinois/Minnesota, etc are on the list for example, with how many months that were a total no go when we lived in Chicago.
I'm kind of thinking it must be somewhere in Texas, California, Arizona, Nevada, Florida? Idk what winters are like around Atlanta, or places in Alabama...?
Interested in thoughts.
What is the best state (or even city) to live in if golfing a ton is your priority? Cost matters too. Variety of courses easily accessible geographically but also access to decent tee times shoudl factor in. Weather obviously matters - you couldn't convince me Wisconsin/Illinois/Minnesota, etc are on the list for example, with how many months that were a total no go when we lived in Chicago.
I'm kind of thinking it must be somewhere in Texas, California, Arizona, Nevada, Florida? Idk what winters are like around Atlanta, or places in Alabama...?
Interested in thoughts.
TLEF316
Footballguy
I think it depends on a few factors.
Are you planning to join a club (I assume a pretty high end club based on the limited amount I know about you. You're a FBG at the very least) and play most of your rounds there or would you prioritize a place with a bunch of Open-to-the-public options?
What kind of golf do you like? Obviously you can play golf in Florida basically year round. But if you dont like courses that have water EVERYWHERE you're probably not going to enjoy that as much. Are you a walker or a rider?
Seems like somewhere in the Carolinas is probably a fairly safe choice. You dont get the CRAZY Hot summers like AZ or Florida but you still have a decent chance to play for a good chunk of the year.
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Mavericks driving you to move? Haha.
Arizona has been wonderful for golf. I do imagine that if you want to live in a single place that southern California, Texas, and Florida are a touch better because they don't have the high temps.
Instinctive
Footballguy
I think joining a club is a luxury beyond our means right now. Maybe in 10-15 years pending business and child cost changes. That's partly why say, Scottsdale, isn't top of the list - tons of awesome accessible stuff but it all seemed very pricy and summers are even hotter than here in TX.
For now - I play ~25 rounds a year at our munis (almost all at the same one, but I mix it up time to time) at an average cost <$30/round. Add another ~15 rounds at public but not-a-muni courses at more like a $70 average round, and then add in ~2 fancy rounds at somewhere like PGA Frisco and then the company Ryder Cup, which is 5 rounds in 3 days at a nice golf resort (Kiawah island this year). That's around 60 rounds - basically 1/week almost every Saturday, minus a couple around the holidays, plus the big Ryder weekend, plus weeks like the 4th of July where I play every other day near the family vacation spot, or when I take the grandkids to my folks' place and play near their house like every other day for a week. or when it's SUPER nice out like this week I'll add an extra round at the muni first light, first off the tees on a random weekday.
I don't need it to be fancy, though i do really like when the sand is well kept and the greens are really true. We rotate the munis here and a new one becomes the go to based on if one has bad greens or one just re did all of theirs and now it's got the best ones for at least a few months.
Carolinas seems interesting. We liked Asheville when we did spring break there a couple years ago. Charlotte is a solid airport. Thanks for the suggestion, will add to the list.
Instinctive
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I've loved Arizona.
That said, I hear LA is a very popular spot for successful people from Dallas.
CGRdrJoe
Footballguy
If you move to Alabama you could always do the RTJ Golf train membership, unlimited golf for couples is only $4800 a year https://www.rtjgolf.com/programs/
The Gator
Footballguy
My completely uneducated opinion- somewhere in Monterey County California.
Easy access to the northern courses and even close enough to get to LA relatively quickly without having to live in LA.
CGRdrJoe
Footballguy
Monterey is expensive, not only to live but to play golf.
I don't know what his price range is and how important it is to not live in extreme heat but purely for golf in California there is no better place than the palm springs/palm desert area. There are over a 130 courses down there with prices ranging from $50-$550 a round
TLEF316
Footballguy
First 9 of the year today. No range at the course yet, so no warm up. Dropping extra balls....hitting mulligans...putting around for a few minutes on each green. Just trying to get some feels.
Mixed bag. Hit a few really nice drives and made a couple of pars but also had a couple of smother hooks (trying to get back to just hitting controlled cuts but my body just can't make myself do it) and just dead shanked a chip. Whatever....first step on the road back to respectability.
Mixed bag. Hit a few really nice drives and made a couple of pars but also had a couple of smother hooks (trying to get back to just hitting controlled cuts but my body just can't make myself do it) and just dead shanked a chip. Whatever....first step on the road back to respectability.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Had a solid round after the lesson. Still working out some kinks with what I would describe as wedge yips. But some of my best tee and approach work ever for a full round. I birdied a hole where I hit a TWO HUNDRED NINETY yard drive, then a 62 yard wedge stuck to 3 feet, made the putt. Hole was downhill but I don't care it felt amazing. Only pulled the driver out for 6 holes, was able to hit great 3H shots on many others and leave like a 6i or 7i or less into the green. But then some really needed the driver or were both long and suuuuuuper open so the upside was there and downside was limited.
Then I had a PW distance par 3 where I fatted it and then pulled it and was a true 3 off the tee then drop, hit 5 onto the green, two putt for a 7. Handicap I had to take a 5 because it was easiest hole on the course (so max is a double + any strokes, and I was getting none). I had a par 5 with an awesome 240 UPHILL drive, a great approach to put it to about 70, and then just behind the ball again with the wedge, end up with a 4th shot to get on, two put for bogey.
Had like three 3-putts (super unusual for me, just couldnt get any feel).
But still ended up overall 19 over. And without the blowup and the three putts alone, that's six easy shots. Add in some of the various fat duffs as I keep learning to hit the ball more consistently, and a couple from absolutely blasting it because I can hit it better and better now (I had one 168 playing 180 super uphill, so I grabbed a 5 iron (my 180-ish club) but hit is like 195 into the side of the hill behind the green somehow) that if I were hitting everything consistently I'd pick a better club and get a better result...I'm really excited for this year.
REALLY excited.
Then I had a PW distance par 3 where I fatted it and then pulled it and was a true 3 off the tee then drop, hit 5 onto the green, two putt for a 7. Handicap I had to take a 5 because it was easiest hole on the course (so max is a double + any strokes, and I was getting none). I had a par 5 with an awesome 240 UPHILL drive, a great approach to put it to about 70, and then just behind the ball again with the wedge, end up with a 4th shot to get on, two put for bogey.
Had like three 3-putts (super unusual for me, just couldnt get any feel).
But still ended up overall 19 over. And without the blowup and the three putts alone, that's six easy shots. Add in some of the various fat duffs as I keep learning to hit the ball more consistently, and a couple from absolutely blasting it because I can hit it better and better now (I had one 168 playing 180 super uphill, so I grabbed a 5 iron (my 180-ish club) but hit is like 195 into the side of the hill behind the green somehow) that if I were hitting everything consistently I'd pick a better club and get a better result...I'm really excited for this year.
REALLY excited.
Instinctive
Footballguy
Had a phenomenal round this weekend. Only 88 - still scooped a wedge 4 times, one OB off tee, one water hazard approach. Putting was SO UNLUCKY. Had a ton of two putts from 5 ft all the way to 15 ft that ended up within six inches but didn't drop. Every unlucky break you can imagine. My guys asked if it was a PR without knowing the score, two were like "best I've ever seen you hit it." One OB was a double the other a triple. I could have been under 80 without the double chips and the penalties...OR if the putts just dropped. If BOTH happened? **** I'd be at par.
I'm breaking the round into six rounds, applying the handicap three holes at a time. Makes it shorter, mental.ks easier.
Hitting every club farther and straighter than ever. Need to practice at home this week, and plan to get to the range tomorrow and just do like 50 wedge shots from AW up to 54 degree. Probably 1/3 full 1/3 75% and 1/3 half.
I worked on it at the lesson, so I know what's happening - it's a combo of sway instead of turn keeping weight back sometimes plus not just accelerating through like a normal swing. Just need to do the practice swings and get the feeling back in my hands. It's frustrating for me because this used to be the only money part of my game. It would be a wild adventure to get to within 120, but anything within there was almost always 2-3 shots to be in the cup, a wedge almost always on the green and 1-2 putts. Now that I actually hit the irons and tee shots mostly well, the putter pace is better than ever...but the wedge touch has abandoned me!
Gonna just work through it. There's a good golfer inside me and he really wants to play!
I'm breaking the round into six rounds, applying the handicap three holes at a time. Makes it shorter, mental.ks easier.
Hitting every club farther and straighter than ever. Need to practice at home this week, and plan to get to the range tomorrow and just do like 50 wedge shots from AW up to 54 degree. Probably 1/3 full 1/3 75% and 1/3 half.
I worked on it at the lesson, so I know what's happening - it's a combo of sway instead of turn keeping weight back sometimes plus not just accelerating through like a normal swing. Just need to do the practice swings and get the feeling back in my hands. It's frustrating for me because this used to be the only money part of my game. It would be a wild adventure to get to within 120, but anything within there was almost always 2-3 shots to be in the cup, a wedge almost always on the green and 1-2 putts. Now that I actually hit the irons and tee shots mostly well, the putter pace is better than ever...but the wedge touch has abandoned me!
Gonna just work through it. There's a good golfer inside me and he really wants to play!
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Update: still nothing "made right."
But, I did learn that there was a second assault on the first day of the tournament - this time between two members where apparently member A slapped or punched member B during a disagreement over something on the course. Member B now wants Member A and, for reasons unknown, Member A's son 86'ed from the club. Club is refusing to do that. Drama and no hilarity ensues.
I used to play at this place regularly and it's sad to see its decline. Feel badly for three close friends of mine that still belong there.
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Following up on this as my tournament ends 4/5 so I might be available 4/6. PM me your general area.
The Gator
Footballguy
Dang, been posting equipment upgrades in the wrong thread …whooops
Ended up getting the Elyte D, 3W, 5w
Tried the 7w but for whatever reason it didn’t work with my swing. I was getting too much loft.
Topped out at 158 ball speed with the driver, averaged about 147
3W got out to 240, which was nice. 5W about 225-230, so that gaps decently to my 4I
Have a round to break them in today, we’ll see what happens
Ended up getting the Elyte D, 3W, 5w
Tried the 7w but for whatever reason it didn’t work with my swing. I was getting too much loft.
Topped out at 158 ball speed with the driver, averaged about 147
3W got out to 240, which was nice. 5W about 225-230, so that gaps decently to my 4I
Have a round to break them in today, we’ll see what happens
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Truebluey
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YAY! Played my first 18 of the season in CT yesterday. Beautiful day, 65 degrees. Hit the driver unexpectedly well and putted great, just hit a few irons straight right. I mean flushed shots, travelled the full distance, but took off at a 45 degree angle from my aimpoint. Never really done that before, so it might be just early season swing rust, or perhaps it was the the ground was still very wet and muddy from the recent snows. Excited to get back into Club golf next month.
Andy Dufresne
Footballguy
Nice set of clubs!Dang, been posting equipment upgrades in the wrong thread …whooops
Ended up getting the Elyte D, 3W, 5w
Tried the 7w but for whatever reason it didn’t work with my swing. I was getting too much loft.
Topped out at 158 ball speed with the driver, averaged about 147
3W got out to 240, which was nice. 5W about 225-230, so that gaps decently to my 4I
Have a round to break them in today, we’ll see what happens
I'm glad you at least gave the 7 wood a try - that why you get fit for clubs.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
That is a deal but the summer heat/humidity is unbearable for those not used to it. I love Ventura County golf. They over built daily high fee courses and so everything is reasonable. Orange County golf is 2X - if you can get on for a 5 hour round. My club (Wood Ranch) cost me $6K a year for the family. Love it. But there are food muni’s for $30-$50 a round. Myrtle Beach might be my other one. AZ great in winters. Summers maybe at 5am
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On the bright side, the game hasn't pissed you off in three weeks.
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Playing a two day Stableford event where it's individual scoring. My wife and her sister are also playing. Despite me explaining the format at length before signing us up, I finally got them to understand just last night that this is an individual tournament, we are not on the same team, and we cannot help each other. Responses have been, "but you can tell me what to hit, right?" "Well, we can still play the hole out if we want, right?" Etc.
This is gonna be fun.
This is gonna be fun.
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