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Shutout
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I think the other perspective that people take on this is we have also seen players have massive workloads as Foster did and then have some breakdown/injury time, but then come back to be very solid again. The thing that drives this so much is that we aren't talking about a guy who was just "pretty good". We are talking about a guy whose ff impact is as significant as anyone who has come around at the position in the last 10 years. When he was on, he was outperforming Peterson, Charles, McCoy, Rice, and a host of others who had some GREAT years.mcd said:
Just a two cents thought. I didn't watch Foster last year (or before, recently) and see a guy who looked old. I saw a guy who looked RUSTY and just not back in the swing of things. There was a game on TNF where he simply was about a half step out of place on what would have been a 20+ score and instead became a pick and I think he still ended up with about 15 points that night). The Texans were in such a state of flux it was hard to say where the fault was but you could see flashes of Foster coming. He just has had an amazingly bad run of health and lack of consistency.
So, he's had a lot of wear and tear but now he's had relatively little for a couple of years and I think (right or wrong) what gravitates people to him is they know that there are certain guys that at 85% are better than almost anyone else at 100% and the people who have reaped the rewards of his dominance are happy to take it.
This is one of those things where you can make your mind up on him and you might be right either way but the result is worse if you pass and are wrong than if you buy and are wrong because if you take him and only get 5 games from him, you pretty much know you'll have 5 weeks of RB1 numbers. If you pass and you're wrong, however, you might be that guy losing a league to a guy who has Foster down the stretch putting up 22-27 on you. It's a decision for people.
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BigSteelThrill
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Foster 'the favorite' to start ahead of Ajayi
The Miami Herald's Barry Jackson considers Arian Foster "the favorite" to start over Jay Ajayi as long as Foster is "completely healthy."
Coach Adam Gase has been talking up Foster the past week-plus since Foster signed a one-year deal. Ajayi is an unproven second-year pro who has some injury concerns of his own and doesn't have the pass-game skill set Foster possesses. Foster is no sure thing from an injury standpoint, either, but signs have been pointing to him being very involved since signing a contract last week. At this point, Foster will probably have to get hurt and/or Ajayi will need an incredible summer to take back the top spot on the Dolphins' depth chart.
Source: Miami Herald
Jul 26 - 11:06 PM
The Miami Herald's Barry Jackson considers Arian Foster "the favorite" to start over Jay Ajayi as long as Foster is "completely healthy."
Coach Adam Gase has been talking up Foster the past week-plus since Foster signed a one-year deal. Ajayi is an unproven second-year pro who has some injury concerns of his own and doesn't have the pass-game skill set Foster possesses. Foster is no sure thing from an injury standpoint, either, but signs have been pointing to him being very involved since signing a contract last week. At this point, Foster will probably have to get hurt and/or Ajayi will need an incredible summer to take back the top spot on the Dolphins' depth chart.
Source: Miami Herald
Jul 26 - 11:06 PM
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Biabreakable
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Here is what the article actually says:
Barry Jackson and Omar Kelly have both been the primary source of negativity regarding Jay Ajayi's abilities as a receiver. Both have a pretty negative point of view about the team in general and I would love to find some better writers talking about the Dolphins.
Biabreakable
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Adam Gase Discusses 2016 Training Camp
What Gase starts the press conference with is stating that Arian Forster and Xavien Howard will start training camp on PUP.
Outstanding journalism on Jackson part reading into anything Gase said in this press conference that Foster will start over Jay Ajayi. Shouldn't he wait until Foster is actually getting 1st team reps before thinking this? The coach said at the break of training camp that Jay Ajayi is the starter. Foster isn't going to get 1st team reps on the PUP.
What Gase says is that it will sort itself out, then talks about sport science being a big influence on how many reps the RB will get.
He says Foster runs routes as good as a WR. He is a very good player. Later on in the interview he talks about not needing to see Foster run a lot of outside zones. He knows Foster knows how to run these plays. It really seems like they follow the guidance of the sports science and trainers as far as how many snaps they give players.
What Gase starts the press conference with is stating that Arian Forster and Xavien Howard will start training camp on PUP.
Outstanding journalism on Jackson part reading into anything Gase said in this press conference that Foster will start over Jay Ajayi. Shouldn't he wait until Foster is actually getting 1st team reps before thinking this? The coach said at the break of training camp that Jay Ajayi is the starter. Foster isn't going to get 1st team reps on the PUP.
What Gase says is that it will sort itself out, then talks about sport science being a big influence on how many reps the RB will get.
He says Foster runs routes as good as a WR. He is a very good player. Later on in the interview he talks about not needing to see Foster run a lot of outside zones. He knows Foster knows how to run these plays. It really seems like they follow the guidance of the sports science and trainers as far as how many snaps they give players.
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dmac37
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From Rotoworld:
Dolphins weight and conditioning coach Dave Polucka said Arian Foster "annihilated" his conditioning test.
Things keep looking up for Foster, who has made a seamless recovery from a torn Achilles. He's been cleared to practice and is now off the PUP list. Originally thought to be a backup, Foster is now expected to take the reigns as Miami's starter. Even while playing hurt last season, Foster remained a productive pass-catcher with 22 catches for 227 yards in four contests. None of this is good news for Jay Ajayi owners.
Source: Armando Salguero on Twitter
Jul 31 - 11:31 AM
Dolphins weight and conditioning coach Dave Polucka said Arian Foster "annihilated" his conditioning test.
Things keep looking up for Foster, who has made a seamless recovery from a torn Achilles. He's been cleared to practice and is now off the PUP list. Originally thought to be a backup, Foster is now expected to take the reigns as Miami's starter. Even while playing hurt last season, Foster remained a productive pass-catcher with 22 catches for 227 yards in four contests. None of this is good news for Jay Ajayi owners.
Source: Armando Salguero on Twitter
Jul 31 - 11:31 AM
maxwelledison
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Yes, because nothing could go wrong for Foster from here out.Looks like a few [posters are gonna need to do some backtracking in this thread.
TripItUp
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need2know
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He's gonna way before that. I think he's a real interesting rb3 if you want to take the risk
TripItUp
Footballguy
the data shows 69 in ppr 61 in standard, not sure where you are getting your adp data from.
that number is likely to plummet as Foster takes over RB1 duties.
https://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/adp/overall.php
abbottjamesr
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Now that Foster is off the PUP list I think he is being way undervalued in drafts. In the last two years of players who have played at least 10 games no one has a higher points per game. This isn't some flash in the pan RB who had a good year once a while back. Non of the top 24 Rbs in ADP this year that have played in since 2011 (6) have more PPG over that time, the list has some good guys on it, Peterson, Charles, McCoy, Murray, Forte and Matthews. And as far as durability goes. Charles has played the same number of games as Foster over the last 5 seasons (53) and Peterson only has played 6 more, and both of those guys have ADP's in the first two rounds.
My projections:
240/960/8 Rushing 43/346/2 Receiving
Fair value to me would be in the early 4th round around the time of guys like Rawls, Hyde, L. Muray. After guys like Forte, Anderson, McCoy, Ingram. But before Stewart, Mathews, Langford, Jones. It would be hard for me to pass in the late 4th early 5th if he was available.
FWIW, Foster is my kind of risk reward player. At least in the past when he starts you know you are getting Elite RB1 performance and when he doesn't start, you aren't surprised. And this year it looks like we have a clear handcuff. If his ADP stays in the 5th or later I will probably own him on many teams.
My projections:
240/960/8 Rushing 43/346/2 Receiving
Fair value to me would be in the early 4th round around the time of guys like Rawls, Hyde, L. Muray. After guys like Forte, Anderson, McCoy, Ingram. But before Stewart, Mathews, Langford, Jones. It would be hard for me to pass in the late 4th early 5th if he was available.
FWIW, Foster is my kind of risk reward player. At least in the past when he starts you know you are getting Elite RB1 performance and when he doesn't start, you aren't surprised. And this year it looks like we have a clear handcuff. If his ADP stays in the 5th or later I will probably own him on many teams.
TripItUp
Footballguy
correct, you'll see his ADP skyrocket if he stays injury free throughout the preseason
BustedKnuckles
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TripItUp
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I don't know about "like his", but athletes come back from Achilles injuries all the time.
Ilov80s
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I don't believe there has been a RB that's come back from this injury. From what I can remember, there hasn't been a RB as close to as good as Foster to tear their achilles so maybe he proves the exception. We have seen players at other positions and in other sports come back so that is a positive sign.
Tanner9919
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32 teams in the NFL . all others passed on Foster. Cause for concern? Yes.There's a reason why the passed on him.
Only once in his NFL career has he played a full 16 game schedule.ONCE.last year he avgd just 2.6 yards per carry BEFORE the Achilles' injury..hard enough for a RB to come back from that injury.even HARDER when the Rb is old(er), has a history of injuries, and couldnt muster anything more than 2.6 ypc last time he played.. He was terrible BEFORE the injury. Why would you think he will be better after it?!
His best days are behind him.
Someone previously predicted 900+ yards for Foster this season..thats quite ambitious.cut it in half..then subtract 100..hes good for about 350-450 rush yards at best..but he might be a good receiver.
Only once in his NFL career has he played a full 16 game schedule.ONCE.last year he avgd just 2.6 yards per carry BEFORE the Achilles' injury..hard enough for a RB to come back from that injury.even HARDER when the Rb is old(er), has a history of injuries, and couldnt muster anything more than 2.6 ypc last time he played.. He was terrible BEFORE the injury. Why would you think he will be better after it?!
His best days are behind him.
Someone previously predicted 900+ yards for Foster this season..thats quite ambitious.cut it in half..then subtract 100..hes good for about 350-450 rush yards at best..but he might be a good receiver.
BigSteelThrill
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Not true. He had additional meetings set up. Many teams never had a chance to see him (were waiting for him to be a full-go in a physical tryout, which he did with Miami and was signed before taking his next meeting) and many teams have no need at RB.
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Ilov80s
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Right not to mention Foster has a say in who he met with and who he is interested in. He wanted a shot to start.
TripItUp
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Ted Stickles
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BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
Different majority owner, GM, coaching staff and head coach, head athletic trainer, strength and conditioning coach, director of sports performance, and even a different team logo.
But they still have the same name that they had 10 years ago.
need2know
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Biabreakable
Footballguy
ourmanflint
Footballguy
2.6 ypc in a 4 game sample coming off a major soft-tissue injury. He was rusty, not horrible. He still racked up points receiving.
What data do you have that says its hard for a RB that ran 4.7 out of college to come back from an Achilles? I'm thinking you have none. He never won on speed or burst.
32 teams did not pass. There is only a handful that really need RB help.
No. If Foster fails (again), it will be because his body betrays him as it often does.
Alex P Keaton
Footballguy
Very fair.
Anyone have a guess how long until Foster is named the starter? Odds he gets seriously injured before that?
Stealthycat
Footballguy
Foster is the #1 RB in Miami, I don't think he'd have signed if he wasn't going to be - only an injury will see Foster less than a bell cow. Can you predict injury ? Can you be savvy and take a #1 RB in a mid-rounds because everyone else is scared?
Drake ... watch Drake, I've never been an Ajayi fan.
Drake ... watch Drake, I've never been an Ajayi fan.
Dr. Octopus
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Hankmoody
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BustedKnuckles
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if he starts what rd is good value to nab him?
Biabreakable
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I did and you can listen to the presser and hear for yourself that they omitted him saying "I don't know" which provides important context that contradicts their conclusion about Gase clearly saying Foster is the number one. That isn't clear and Gase has not made any decision yet. He isn't going to make any decisions until some time in preseason.Dr. Octopus said:
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Borden
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With Gase, the 2014 Broncos had 443 rush attempts. In 2013, they had 461. The Bears had 468 rushing attempts last year. The Phins had 344 last year. My guess would be that Gase will try to get around 450 rush attempts. Let's say 100 carries go to "Other" meaning not Ajayi or Foster. What does everyone think the split will be on the other 350.
*I put Drake in the "other" because I think he will get 50-60 carries.
*I put Drake in the "other" because I think he will get 50-60 carries.
Borden
Footballguy
Yeah that seems to be the hot take. I was just wondering what everyone thought it would be. Majority could mean 200 to 150 or 300 to 50. I'm not worried about nitpicking, just a general idea from people.
BigSteelThrill
Footballguy
The Miami Herald's Armando Salguero reports Arian Foster is "head and shoulders" the best running back on the Dolphins.
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The Miami Herald ( Adam Beasley) reports there is "growing optimism" Arian Foster can be "the guy" at running back.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5469/arian-foster/1
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The Miami Herald ( Adam Beasley) reports there is "growing optimism" Arian Foster can be "the guy" at running back.
http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5469/arian-foster/1
