*****Official Baltimore Ravens Thread***** (1 Viewer)

[The_Man]

Going to be on the road tomorrow, hoping to get home shortly before kickoff but won't be around until then

Weather is looking very similar to last Saturday's game vs Cleveland. Watching Ravens "Wired," Lamar told Andrews the reason he overthrew him on the first possession for whatever reason otherwise would have been a huge gain/maybe TD was the wind carried the ball over Andrews' head. Will be the same northwest wind tomorrow, so it will be behind teams going from left to right on the TV screen. Glad Lamar got a chance to play in those conditions as prep for the Wild Card and I wonder how Wilson's moon ball will do in higher winds.

I'm sticking with my belief - confirmed by Lamar's press conference comments this week - that he has turned a corner in the big games. Rather than try to do too much and end up playing frantic, he's going to try to do less and let the game come to him. He finally did that vs Pittsburgh in the last game and, look, the Ravens won by 17 points - the first game won by either team in this series by more than one score since Lamar sat out meaningless final game back in 2019. Tomlin is going to try to make this a down and dirty fight that hinges on one play or one Boswell kick so he can steal another win from the Ravens.

But this time the Ravens finally know they're the better team and they're going to methodically take care of business and gradually pull away to a solid win. The ways this prediction could go horribly wrong, in order of most to least likely:
1. Steelers pass rush wrecks the game with an early strip sack turnover that gives them an easy TD and panics the Ravens.
2. Other general ball insecurity - the Ravens are way too careless with the ball vs Pittsburgh, even in the win last month they got lucky on a number of fumbles (including our sketchy punt return corps)
3. Brandon Stephens inexplicably gets singled up in coverage on Pickens and gives up multiple deep balls.
4. Justin Tucker misses a long FG, giving the Steelers a short field that results in easy points.
5. The Ravens forget to call running plays.
6. Lamar is frenetic again, rushing the action, making poor decisions with handoffs and throws.

I'm looking for a big Isiah Likely game, with the Steelers doing everything to stop Mark Andrews.

 

[The_Man]

Ravens won by 17 points - the first game won by either team in this series by m business and gradually pull away to a solid win. The ways this prediction could go horribly wrong, in order of most to least likely:

2. Other general ball insecurity - the Ravens are way too careless with the ball vs Pittsburgh, even in the win last month they got lucky on a number of fumbles (including our sketchy punt return corps)

Welp

 

[The_Man]

That’s the Lamar we’ve been waiting to see in the playoffs

Other than Ronnie Stanley, great job with penalties. And no turnovers

But punt return continues to look very shaky

Got to do something about Brandon Stephens, we can’t let him cost us a Super Bowl run

I actually think Denver has a shot vs Buffalo. Would love to have Houston come here next week but have no fear of going into Buffalo next week

My guess is Ravens game at Buffalo would be Sunday, as that gives Texans and Bills full 7-day rest and Ravens get 8. Texans here would be on Saturday, to give Broncos full 7 days of rest going into KC

 

[Harry Frogfish]

So I looked at current Super Bowl futures recently. There is zero value in the favorites, of course. KC, Detroit, Philly, Buffalo. Unplayable and sorry Minnie, but I'm not a believer. I think all are beatable and there is decent parity here for a current outsider to crash the party. And while I'm far from a Baltimore fan, I like this team, and they can be had from 10 to even 12-1 (Draftkings) right now, which is juicy. More than double the odds of the top teams. The Ravens beating any of them wouldn't be a big surprise. You guys have the horses and will be heading in at a very opportune time, imo. That bye was ideal, especially after the loss to Philly (who you still out-gained by like 120 yards).

They've had some bad luck and have slipped off the radar a bit. Between the bye at a perfect time and a sweet upcoming schedule, I could see them peaking at just the right time. They could literally win 3 games in 11 days, then get a mini-bye to finish out the season. And any weather is their friend, as you well know, built for a playoff run.

12/15 @ NYG
12/21 PITT at (favors Balt with the shorter week and Pitt having to travel again, along with Pitt's tough schedule -- @ Philly this week, then KC after Baltimore -- ouch!)
12/25 @ HOU (I actually think this could be the biggest threat)
CLE at home off a mini-bye

Could easily see the Ravens winning the division but regardless, they are a team that won't be shell-shocked by any road game, imo. Not like some anyway.

I think they go undefeated and those odds drop precipitously 3 weeks from now.


I'm here for you homers to tell me I'm wrong, for real, and maybe I'll downsize the futures play (doubtful). I need something besides Lamar never winning the big ones (I'm aware of that stuff, as well as that pass D...and please don't point to Tucker, that's a risk I'm more than willing to take).

Defense isn't good enough to win the SB. I would take GB or PIT as a flyer before BAL.

Love and Russell aren't good enough to win the SB. I would take Lamar in his prime before them.

Love is not playing great this year but he’s shown potential and is still young. Russ keeps getting criticism because of how things shook out in Denver but he’s playing well. He’s a game manager and doing a good job of it. Lamar is the most talented but we have seen him fall short time and time again. This year he has the worst defense that he’s probably ever had. Also football is a team sport. None of these guys are winning a Super Bowl by themselves.

I already stated what you've said concerning Baltimore and Lamar in my first post.

As for Love and Russ, my comments stand. I'm not buying Love and Lamar is so much more dangerous (the point of my recent reply). And with Russell, I actually was a hanger-on in Denver and still am for the most part. Never thought he was done and said as much. Yet Russ V3.0 is not winning a SB. Lamar is head and shoulders above these guys and one of the few that can do it with a weak D (pass D, specifically).

Look, all of these ships have leaks, even the ones out in front. I think there's some parity at hand. Which is why I brought it all up. In looking for an outsider, I fall squarely on Baltimore.

So how 'bout you, give us something more than a "No on Baltimore", and please, save the football's a team sport stuff.

Who's your dark horse? Minimum 10-1 odds.

Among teams that have worse super bowl odds than Baltimore, I would actually pick the 2 teams that you dismissed because of their QBs (i.e. GB and Pittsburgh). Both of those teams have better defenses and special teams. Green Bay still has an above average offense and Pittsburgh is in the middle of the pack. Both of these teams have a significant positive turnover differential compared to Baltimore.

Also, what do you mean by "save the football's a team sport stuff"? Are you insinuating the QB is the only position that matters when it comes to winning a super bowl. I know it sounds cliche but it really isn't. Football is a team sport. I acknowledged that Lamar was the best QB of the 3 but that doesn't matter if you have a defense that can't hold a lead and a kicker who is completely lost. Pittsburgh actually beat Baltimore a couple weeks ago because of that kicker. Finally, why is it that Russ and Love have no shot at winning a Super Bowl given the teams surrounding them?

Update?

 

[fred_1_15301]

So I looked at current Super Bowl futures recently. There is zero value in the favorites, of course. KC, Detroit, Philly, Buffalo. Unplayable and sorry Minnie, but I'm not a believer. I think all are beatable and there is decent parity here for a current outsider to crash the party. And while I'm far from a Baltimore fan, I like this team, and they can be had from 10 to even 12-1 (Draftkings) right now, which is juicy. More than double the odds of the top teams. The Ravens beating any of them wouldn't be a big surprise. You guys have the horses and will be heading in at a very opportune time, imo. That bye was ideal, especially after the loss to Philly (who you still out-gained by like 120 yards).

They've had some bad luck and have slipped off the radar a bit. Between the bye at a perfect time and a sweet upcoming schedule, I could see them peaking at just the right time. They could literally win 3 games in 11 days, then get a mini-bye to finish out the season. And any weather is their friend, as you well know, built for a playoff run.

12/15 @ NYG
12/21 PITT at (favors Balt with the shorter week and Pitt having to travel again, along with Pitt's tough schedule -- @ Philly this week, then KC after Baltimore -- ouch!)
12/25 @ HOU (I actually think this could be the biggest threat)
CLE at home off a mini-bye

Could easily see the Ravens winning the division but regardless, they are a team that won't be shell-shocked by any road game, imo. Not like some anyway.

I think they go undefeated and those odds drop precipitously 3 weeks from now.


I'm here for you homers to tell me I'm wrong, for real, and maybe I'll downsize the futures play (doubtful). I need something besides Lamar never winning the big ones (I'm aware of that stuff, as well as that pass D...and please don't point to Tucker, that's a risk I'm more than willing to take).

Defense isn't good enough to win the SB. I would take GB or PIT as a flyer before BAL.

Love and Russell aren't good enough to win the SB. I would take Lamar in his prime before them.

Love is not playing great this year but he’s shown potential and is still young. Russ keeps getting criticism because of how things shook out in Denver but he’s playing well. He’s a game manager and doing a good job of it. Lamar is the most talented but we have seen him fall short time and time again. This year he has the worst defense that he’s probably ever had. Also football is a team sport. None of these guys are winning a Super Bowl by themselves.

I already stated what you've said concerning Baltimore and Lamar in my first post.

As for Love and Russ, my comments stand. I'm not buying Love and Lamar is so much more dangerous (the point of my recent reply). And with Russell, I actually was a hanger-on in Denver and still am for the most part. Never thought he was done and said as much. Yet Russ V3.0 is not winning a SB. Lamar is head and shoulders above these guys and one of the few that can do it with a weak D (pass D, specifically).

Look, all of these ships have leaks, even the ones out in front. I think there's some parity at hand. Which is why I brought it all up. In looking for an outsider, I fall squarely on Baltimore.

So how 'bout you, give us something more than a "No on Baltimore", and please, save the football's a team sport stuff.

Who's your dark horse? Minimum 10-1 odds.

Among teams that have worse super bowl odds than Baltimore, I would actually pick the 2 teams that you dismissed because of their QBs (i.e. GB and Pittsburgh). Both of those teams have better defenses and special teams. Green Bay still has an above average offense and Pittsburgh is in the middle of the pack. Both of these teams have a significant positive turnover differential compared to Baltimore.

Also, what do you mean by "save the football's a team sport stuff"? Are you insinuating the QB is the only position that matters when it comes to winning a super bowl. I know it sounds cliche but it really isn't. Football is a team sport. I acknowledged that Lamar was the best QB of the 3 but that doesn't matter if you have a defense that can't hold a lead and a kicker who is completely lost. Pittsburgh actually beat Baltimore a couple weeks ago because of that kicker. Finally, why is it that Russ and Love have no shot at winning a Super Bowl given the teams surrounding them?

Update?

Ha - the trajectory of the 2 teams has changed quite a bit since my post. No problem admitting when I’m wrong about something.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

That’s the Lamar we’ve been waiting to see in the playoffs

Other than Ronnie Stanley, great job with penalties. And no turnovers

But punt return continues to look very shaky

Got to do something about Brandon Stephens, we can’t let him cost us a Super Bowl run

I actually think Denver has a shot vs Buffalo. Would love to have Houston come here next week but have no fear of going into Buffalo next week

My guess is Ravens game at Buffalo would be Sunday, as that gives Texans and Bills full 7-day rest and Ravens get 8. Texans here would be on Saturday, to give Broncos full 7 days of rest going into KC

I don't know what's happened to Stephens. He was really good last year, but this season he looks lost.

The OL played really well. There were a few plays where it looked to me like the Ravens were baiting Watt & Highsmith with free runs at Jackson, only to have Lamar take off leaving them 10-15 yards behind the play.

Nate Wiggins has scored more TDs (1) than he's given up. Nobody throws the ball his way. I don't know enough about playing CB to know what exactly he's doing, but it's working.

Derrick Henry is a full-grown man.

 

[Snotbubbles]

So I looked at current Super Bowl futures recently. There is zero value in the favorites, of course. KC, Detroit, Philly, Buffalo. Unplayable and sorry Minnie, but I'm not a believer. I think all are beatable and there is decent parity here for a current outsider to crash the party. And while I'm far from a Baltimore fan, I like this team, and they can be had from 10 to even 12-1 (Draftkings) right now, which is juicy. More than double the odds of the top teams. The Ravens beating any of them wouldn't be a big surprise. You guys have the horses and will be heading in at a very opportune time, imo. That bye was ideal, especially after the loss to Philly (who you still out-gained by like 120 yards).

They've had some bad luck and have slipped off the radar a bit. Between the bye at a perfect time and a sweet upcoming schedule, I could see them peaking at just the right time. They could literally win 3 games in 11 days, then get a mini-bye to finish out the season. And any weather is their friend, as you well know, built for a playoff run.

12/15 @ NYG
12/21 PITT at (favors Balt with the shorter week and Pitt having to travel again, along with Pitt's tough schedule -- @ Philly this week, then KC after Baltimore -- ouch!)
12/25 @ HOU (I actually think this could be the biggest threat)
CLE at home off a mini-bye

Could easily see the Ravens winning the division but regardless, they are a team that won't be shell-shocked by any road game, imo. Not like some anyway.

I think they go undefeated and those odds drop precipitously 3 weeks from now.


I'm here for you homers to tell me I'm wrong, for real, and maybe I'll downsize the futures play (doubtful). I need something besides Lamar never winning the big ones (I'm aware of that stuff, as well as that pass D...and please don't point to Tucker, that's a risk I'm more than willing to take).

Defense isn't good enough to win the SB. I would take GB or PIT as a flyer before BAL.

Love and Russell aren't good enough to win the SB. I would take Lamar in his prime before them.

Love is not playing great this year but he’s shown potential and is still young. Russ keeps getting criticism because of how things shook out in Denver but he’s playing well. He’s a game manager and doing a good job of it. Lamar is the most talented but we have seen him fall short time and time again. This year he has the worst defense that he’s probably ever had. Also football is a team sport. None of these guys are winning a Super Bowl by themselves.

I already stated what you've said concerning Baltimore and Lamar in my first post.

As for Love and Russ, my comments stand. I'm not buying Love and Lamar is so much more dangerous (the point of my recent reply). And with Russell, I actually was a hanger-on in Denver and still am for the most part. Never thought he was done and said as much. Yet Russ V3.0 is not winning a SB. Lamar is head and shoulders above these guys and one of the few that can do it with a weak D (pass D, specifically).

Look, all of these ships have leaks, even the ones out in front. I think there's some parity at hand. Which is why I brought it all up. In looking for an outsider, I fall squarely on Baltimore.

So how 'bout you, give us something more than a "No on Baltimore", and please, save the football's a team sport stuff.

Who's your dark horse? Minimum 10-1 odds.

Among teams that have worse super bowl odds than Baltimore, I would actually pick the 2 teams that you dismissed because of their QBs (i.e. GB and Pittsburgh). Both of those teams have better defenses and special teams. Green Bay still has an above average offense and Pittsburgh is in the middle of the pack. Both of these teams have a significant positive turnover differential compared to Baltimore.

Also, what do you mean by "save the football's a team sport stuff"? Are you insinuating the QB is the only position that matters when it comes to winning a super bowl. I know it sounds cliche but it really isn't. Football is a team sport. I acknowledged that Lamar was the best QB of the 3 but that doesn't matter if you have a defense that can't hold a lead and a kicker who is completely lost. Pittsburgh actually beat Baltimore a couple weeks ago because of that kicker. Finally, why is it that Russ and Love have no shot at winning a Super Bowl given the teams surrounding them?

Update?

To be fair, I never said ant of those teams had a chance to win the Superbowl. I think one the top two seeds in each conference will it. Betting on long shots are sucker bets.

 

[The_Man]

Lamar last night was first player in NFL history with 175 passing yards, 75 rush yards, 2 pass TDs and 75% completion rate in a postseason game

I’ll try not to repeat myself too much but remain convinced that December game vs Pittsburgh was the turning point for Lamar in big games. He realized he doesn’t have to do anything different in the big games, indeed he SHOULDN’T do anything different in the big games

He played free and easy last night, I expect him to keep playing that way for the rest of the postseason

Still hope they get Zay back this week. Big Broncos fan today, let’s bring the Divisional game vs Houston to Baltimore!

 

[Harry Frogfish]

So I looked at current Super Bowl futures recently. There is zero value in the favorites, of course. KC, Detroit, Philly, Buffalo. Unplayable and sorry Minnie, but I'm not a believer. I think all are beatable and there is decent parity here for a current outsider to crash the party. And while I'm far from a Baltimore fan, I like this team, and they can be had from 10 to even 12-1 (Draftkings) right now, which is juicy. More than double the odds of the top teams. The Ravens beating any of them wouldn't be a big surprise. You guys have the horses and will be heading in at a very opportune time, imo. That bye was ideal, especially after the loss to Philly (who you still out-gained by like 120 yards).

They've had some bad luck and have slipped off the radar a bit. Between the bye at a perfect time and a sweet upcoming schedule, I could see them peaking at just the right time. They could literally win 3 games in 11 days, then get a mini-bye to finish out the season. And any weather is their friend, as you well know, built for a playoff run.

12/15 @ NYG
12/21 PITT at (favors Balt with the shorter week and Pitt having to travel again, along with Pitt's tough schedule -- @ Philly this week, then KC after Baltimore -- ouch!)
12/25 @ HOU (I actually think this could be the biggest threat)
CLE at home off a mini-bye

Could easily see the Ravens winning the division but regardless, they are a team that won't be shell-shocked by any road game, imo. Not like some anyway.

I think they go undefeated and those odds drop precipitously 3 weeks from now.


I'm here for you homers to tell me I'm wrong, for real, and maybe I'll downsize the futures play (doubtful). I need something besides Lamar never winning the big ones (I'm aware of that stuff, as well as that pass D...and please don't point to Tucker, that's a risk I'm more than willing to take).

Defense isn't good enough to win the SB. I would take GB or PIT as a flyer before BAL.

Love and Russell aren't good enough to win the SB. I would take Lamar in his prime before them.

Love is not playing great this year but he’s shown potential and is still young. Russ keeps getting criticism because of how things shook out in Denver but he’s playing well. He’s a game manager and doing a good job of it. Lamar is the most talented but we have seen him fall short time and time again. This year he has the worst defense that he’s probably ever had. Also football is a team sport. None of these guys are winning a Super Bowl by themselves.

I already stated what you've said concerning Baltimore and Lamar in my first post.

As for Love and Russ, my comments stand. I'm not buying Love and Lamar is so much more dangerous (the point of my recent reply). And with Russell, I actually was a hanger-on in Denver and still am for the most part. Never thought he was done and said as much. Yet Russ V3.0 is not winning a SB. Lamar is head and shoulders above these guys and one of the few that can do it with a weak D (pass D, specifically).

Look, all of these ships have leaks, even the ones out in front. I think there's some parity at hand. Which is why I brought it all up. In looking for an outsider, I fall squarely on Baltimore.

So how 'bout you, give us something more than a "No on Baltimore", and please, save the football's a team sport stuff.

Who's your dark horse? Minimum 10-1 odds.

Among teams that have worse super bowl odds than Baltimore, I would actually pick the 2 teams that you dismissed because of their QBs (i.e. GB and Pittsburgh). Both of those teams have better defenses and special teams. Green Bay still has an above average offense and Pittsburgh is in the middle of the pack. Both of these teams have a significant positive turnover differential compared to Baltimore.

Also, what do you mean by "save the football's a team sport stuff"? Are you insinuating the QB is the only position that matters when it comes to winning a super bowl. I know it sounds cliche but it really isn't. Football is a team sport. I acknowledged that Lamar was the best QB of the 3 but that doesn't matter if you have a defense that can't hold a lead and a kicker who is completely lost. Pittsburgh actually beat Baltimore a couple weeks ago because of that kicker. Finally, why is it that Russ and Love have no shot at winning a Super Bowl given the teams surrounding them?

Update?

To be fair, I never said ant of those teams had a chance to win the Superbowl. I think one the top two seeds in each conference will it. Betting on long shots are sucker bets.

You might want to take back that last statement. The "sucker bet" knowledge, coming from the homer and favorite was a joke, right? Please say yes.

Or, "to be fair", do you just prefer your crow in larger portions?

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Big Broncos fan today

Well, it started out good

I hope Flowers can play Saturday. They don't have anyone else who can do what he does. But I fully expect the Ravens to list him as questionable and lie through their teeth right up until game time.

Sunday should be a helluva game.

 

[The_Man]

Haven't fully gone back to look at it yet but I am loving what I think to be Lamar's ball-handling decisions on running plays now. Pittsburgh has famously defended him by crashing the ends down on him every play, forcing him to hand the ball to the RB or be under immediate pressure for a big hit. On Saturday, the Steelers totally switched that up, instead having their End crash down on the RB every play. I guess they thought their change in strategy would confuse Lamar - instead he kept the ball and ran it himself on 5 straight plays as the Ravens fought their way out from their own 5-yard line.

From that point forward, Lamar was pulling all the strings, keeping it or handing it based on his read on the D End. On the 44-yard TD run by Henry, you can see 3 guys follow Lamar as it looks like he's going to keep it and run left, only for him to hand it to Henry after ILB Roberts had totally vacated the center of the field. Queen is getting all the grief in Baltimore for his weak attempt on Henry, but it wasn't his gap and by the time he got off Linderbaum's block there really wasn't much he could do. Saturday was only the second time the Steelers have given up more than 290 rushing yards in a game (playoff or regular season) since 1955. And this was despite everyone keying on the run since Zay was out.

What I really like is the Ravens' ability to make in-game adjustments based on how the D is playing them. Lamar is finally in full command of the offense - in the Christmas game vs Houston, he kept handing off and handing off, biding his time until he got the look he wanted and then finally kept the ball himself and walked in untouched from midfield. They have a second half run of 40+ yards in each of the last 4 games:
4th Q vs Pittsburgh – 44-yard Henry run
3rd Q vs Houston – 48-yard Lamar run
4th Q vs Cleveland – 43-yard Henry run
3rd Q vs Pittsburgh – 44-yard Henry run

And that new direct snap to Henry with Lamar faking the jet sweep has to be nightmare fuel for a D Coordinator. Pittsburgh had no chance seeing it for the first time, again 3 guys went with Lamar, leaving the Ravens with a 9 on 8 advantage when Henry kept the ball. This opens up so much for them now -Henry can keep it, he can give it to Lamar to run, or Lamar can take the handoff from Henry and then throw it.

Going to be a long week until Sunday Night

 

[The_Man]

Since Dec. 2, the Ravens have trailed for 0 seconds over 300 minutes of football

They have been tied for 52:15 (41:31 of that at 0-0; the other times came when they were tied 7-7 and 17-17 with Pittsburgh in the late season game)

They have held a 4th Quarter lead of less than 10 points for 1:45 (when it was 24-17 vs Pittsburgh before the Marlo pick-6)

They have held a 4th Quarter lead of less than 7 points for 0 seconds. Never trailing and never leading by less than a TD in the 4th Quarter should be about as stress-free as football viewing gets but I haven't found that to be the case...

Between HBO's "Hard Knocks" and the Ravens own "Wired" series on YouTube (which I highly highly recommend), this past month has been a golden age for Ravens content. My favorite part is how the mic'd up segments demonstrate Lamar's absolute mastery of the QB position now. I've always contended that his processing time is simply faster than virtually anyone else's, and that ability to instantly see and understand what everyone else is doing is part of the reason he seems to be moving faster than everyone else even while they're going all-out and he's ambling along.

He always knew how to apply that ability to ball handling, instantaneously usually making the right decision about when to hand off and when to keep. But now he's applying It to the passing game as well. After the first TD in the Wild Card game, which came on third and goal from the 13, Lamar talked with the QB coach about how he instantly knew what coverage Minkah was in and so he moved him to the right by looking and even moving that way before coming back to Bateman cutting across the middle - but he also knew he had to layer his throw over the other Safety. And then of course he made a perfect throw that traveled 25+ yards from the pocket to the back of the end zone.

He's playing so well and I just want it to keep going. Feeling like Sunday's game is a toss-up, Ravens should have every chance to win if they don't kill their own drives (or extend Buffalo's) with penalties or blow the game with a catastrophic special teams play. Allen is a beast but I like how Hamilton and Marlon match up - not many teams have a nickel/dime DB who can compete with Allen physically. And they have got to figure out how not to let Brandon Stephens end their season by letting balls get caught over his head. It's the one thing they haven't fixed on defense, and as such is becoming more and more a glaring target for opposing offenses.

 

[The_Man]

Only 3 Ravens outcomes I can’t handle:

Leaving Stephens in one on one deep coverage and getting burned

Monken abandoning the run, especially if the Ravens get down by like 10 early on

A bunch of game-changing penalties, even if they’re legit calls

 

[Snotbubbles]

Malpractice only giving Henry 16 carries yesterday.

 

[Insein]

Malpractice only giving Henry 16 carries yesterday.

Seriously. This was the game they got him for and they did the same old **** again. Plus taking him off the field for 2 min package is just criminal. I dont care how good they think Justice Hill is. Henry is a threat the defense has to respect.

 

[ChiefD]

Malpractice only giving Henry 16 carries yesterday.

Malpractice only giving Henry 16 carries yesterday.

Seriously. This was the game they got him for and they did the same old **** again. Plus taking him off the field for 2 min package is just criminal. I dont care how good they think Justice Hill is. Henry is a threat the defense has to respect.

Yep. I will never understand that about Harbaugh. Henry has maybe 2-3 years left. This is when you ride him into the ground. He should have had 35 carries yesterday.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

I really thought this was their year.

Too many turnovers, too many penalties, and too many dropped passes. Lamar Jackson is gonna take the heat for this loss, but it wasn't on him.

 

[wgoldsph]

No comment on the "subconscious" reffing bias against the ravens during that game? That dpi was insane, there's no angle they showed that it wasn't a blatant opi. And imagine Mahomes getting ridden down passed the line of scrimmage the way Lamar was.

There's a lot of reasons the ravens lost, I just hate when one of those is "played against refs". That pass interference gave the bills gave the bills a td on a ball they would have needed to punt. Totally changes the complexion of the game.

 

[kface]

No comment on the "subconscious" reffing bias against the ravens during that game? That dpi was insane, there's no angle they showed that it wasn't a blatant opi. And imagine Mahomes getting ridden down passed the line of scrimmage the way Lamar was.

There's a lot of reasons the ravens lost, I just hate when one of those is "played against refs". That pass interference gave the bills gave the bills a td on a ball they would have needed to punt. Totally changes the complexion of the game.

And the ghost 'holding' call cost the bills points...

 

[IHEARTFF]

I really thought this was their year.

Too many turnovers, too many penalties, and too many dropped passes. Lamar Jackson is gonna take the heat for this loss, but it wasn't on him.

That was a shame for you guys. You can't say it wasn't on Lamar but rather the turnovers, etc when he was directly responsible for 2 of those 3 turnovers that led to them being behind. They don't use Henry as much when they're playing from behind, so it hurt them quite a bit. Tough loss, but they'll be back of course.

 

[Dan Lambskin]

I really thought this was their year.

Too many turnovers, too many penalties, and too many dropped passes. Lamar Jackson is gonna take the heat for this loss, but it wasn't on him.

That was a shame for you guys. You can't say it wasn't on Lamar but rather the turnovers, etc when he was directly responsible for 2 of those 3 turnovers that led to them being behind. They don't use Henry as much when they're playing from behind, so it hurt them quite a bit. Tough loss, but they'll be back of course.

Be back to what? Losing in the divisional series with a 4 time MVP at QB?

 

[IHEARTFF]

I really thought this was their year.

Too many turnovers, too many penalties, and too many dropped passes. Lamar Jackson is gonna take the heat for this loss, but it wasn't on him.

That was a shame for you guys. You can't say it wasn't on Lamar but rather the turnovers, etc when he was directly responsible for 2 of those 3 turnovers that led to them being behind. They don't use Henry as much when they're playing from behind, so it hurt them quite a bit. Tough loss, but they'll be back of course.

Be back to what? Losing in the divisional series with a 4 time MVP at QB?

I mean who knows, but beating the Chiefs or Bills is pretty darn hard.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Offseason work to be done, by position:

QB: Not much to see here. They could bring back ancient Josh Johnson (who's UFA) but, if Lamar Jackson goes down for any length of time, they're an 8/9 win team anyway.

RB: Room is set and Mitchell will be healthy. FB Ricard is a UFA, but there's not a big market for that position - I think something gets worked out there.

WR: Flowers & Bateman are the starters. Agholor is a FA, but I doubt anyone's knocking the door down to sign him and could see him back. Wallace, Sims, and Harty at JAGs - maybe one comes back. Walker didn't do much as a rookie, but he'll stick. I expect Baltimore to draft another.

TE: It'll be interesting to see what happens with Andrews. I highly doubt they bring him back at his current cap number. Both Likely & Kolar are heading into their final year under their current contracts.

OL: Stanley's contract is voidable. I think they release and try to re-sign him, but let him walk if somebody throws a bag of loot at him. Patrick Mekari (UFA) may be too rich for the Ravens' cap, but I hope they can work something out with him. Ben Cleveland - bye. Josh Jones, I expect back.

DL: Brent Urban is a UFA. I expect he'll either retire or re-sign. I thought Pierce's contract was up, too, but he's not showing on any lists I can find.

LB: Harrison, Board, Welch are all UFAs. Harrison might get a little interest abroad, but I think all 3 may be back.

CB: Marlon Humphrey was hinting around on departure day that he may not be back (Baltimore would have to release him, as he's under contract with a sizeable cap number), but he could've just been bummed about the loss to the Bills. He had a nice season in 2024, so I hope they can work something out that works for both sides. Brandon Stephens (UFA) cost himself a ton of money. I don't know what happened to him this season, but he was awful after being so good in 2023. I'd be surprised in the Ravens gave him any kind of hometown bump. Tre'Davious White (UFA) was a trade deadline pick-up - I guess he was ok? I honestly don't remember him doing anything, good or bad. Nate Wiggins had a fantastic rookie season. I expect the Ravens - always paranoid about CB depth - to draft/sign one or two.

S: I believe Baltimore can void Marcus Williams' contract and expect them to do so. Something went off the rails there, so he's gone. Ar'Darius Washington is RFA and I suspect the Ravens will do everything they can to sign a new contract with him.

As usual, I expect some of the coaches will get poached - though it looks like Monken is getting an extension.

 

[Wingnut]

Ravens kicker Justin Tucker accused of inappropriate sexual behavior by six massage therapists.

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[Insein]

Ooo boy

 

[ChiefD]

whoa

 

[BoltNlava]

Announcer: "It's up ... it's bending slightly to the left..NO GOOD!"

 

[ChiefD]

Announcer: "It's up ... it's bending slightly to the left..NO GOOD!"

I give this a laugh and a dad joke boo at the same time.

 

[Uruk-Hai]

Be wary in here, guys.