*** OFFICIAL *** Baseball Offseason Moves (2006-07)... (2 Viewers)

[Capella]

Braves have a hard-on for Baldelli

offering chuck james :(

 

[ThisGuy]

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/ch...-home-headlines

If its not in here as confirmed yet, Cubs ink Marquis for 3years / $20m

So combined, thats 7 years / $60 million for Ted Lilly and Jason Marquis.

I think it makes the Lilly deal look better.

 

[RnR]

Inge was great last year defensively but let's see him do it 2-3 times like Rolen has. Rolen likely won't be the same after the injuries so it's not even something that can be compared anymore. I do know one thing, if it's game 7 of the WS and I need a 3B to field a ball to win the game I'll put my $$$ on Rolen.

It should also be noted that Rolen has 7 Gold Gloves, for those of keeping score at home.

A true baseball fan knows that you never ever hang your hat on Golden Glove awards.A sham of an award in baseballCome on, you can do better then that!

 

[MrPhoenix]

Braves have a hard-on for Baldelli

offering chuck james :(

He's decent.

 

[Capella]

Braves have a hard-on for Baldelli

offering chuck james :(

He's decent.

decent doesn't do it.

 

[Statorama]

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/ch...-home-headlines

If its not in here as confirmed yet, Cubs ink Marquis for 3years / $20m

So combined, thats 7 years / $60 million for Ted Lilly and Jason Marquis.

I think it makes the Lilly deal look better.

Better than Rich Hill and Sean Marshall. That's kinda like being the tallest midget though.

 

[RnR]

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/ch...-home-headlines

If its not in here as confirmed yet, Cubs ink Marquis for 3years / $20m

So combined, thats 7 years / $60 million for Ted Lilly and Jason Marquis.

I think it makes the Lilly deal look better.

Better than Rich Hill and Sean Marshall. That's kinda like being the tallest midget though.

You think so? I think Rich Hill and Sean Marshall show decent promise as left handed starters. Can't they be expected to improve on their rookie seasons?

 

[Statorama]

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/ch...-home-headlines

If its not in here as confirmed yet, Cubs ink Marquis for 3years / $20m

So combined, thats 7 years / $60 million for Ted Lilly and Jason Marquis.

I think it makes the Lilly deal look better.

Better than Rich Hill and Sean Marshall. That's kinda like being the tallest midget though.

You think so? I think Rich Hill and Sean Marshall show decent promise as left handed starters. Can't they be expected to improve on their rookie seasons?

Both showed some flashes, and will probably compete for spots. Having a couple of inning eaters ahead of them takes some pressure off.

 

[MrPhoenix]

Braves have a hard-on for Baldelli

offering chuck james :(

He's decent.

decent doesn't do it.

3.78 ERA in 25 games from a 25 year old lefty doesn't impress you?Or are you holding out for Marcus Giles?

 

[RnR]

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/ch...-home-headlines

If its not in here as confirmed yet, Cubs ink Marquis for 3years / $20m

So combined, thats 7 years / $60 million for Ted Lilly and Jason Marquis.

I think it makes the Lilly deal look better.

Better than Rich Hill and Sean Marshall. That's kinda like being the tallest midget though.

You think so? I think Rich Hill and Sean Marshall show decent promise as left handed starters. Can't they be expected to improve on their rookie seasons?

Both showed some flashes, and will probably compete for spots. Having a couple of inning eaters ahead of them takes some pressure off.

Definitely. I just think they should have a chance to start the season in the rotation. Dumping money into Marquis could prevent that.

 

[Capella]

Braves have a hard-on for Baldelli

offering chuck james :(

He's decent.

decent doesn't do it.

3.78 ERA in 25 games from a 25 year old lefty doesn't impress you?Or are you holding out for Marcus Giles?

flyball pitcher. not good shtick in the dome.and I don't trust any pitcher the braves part with.

 

[RnR]

Braves have a hard-on for Baldelli

offering chuck james :(

He's decent.

decent doesn't do it.

3.78 ERA in 25 games from a 25 year old lefty doesn't impress you?Or are you holding out for Marcus Giles?

Chuck James is a pretty weak offer. They've been talking with other teams for better pitchers.

 

[MrPhoenix]

Braves have a hard-on for Baldelli

offering chuck james :(

He's decent.

decent doesn't do it.

3.78 ERA in 25 games from a 25 year old lefty doesn't impress you?Or are you holding out for Marcus Giles?

flyball pitcher. not good shtick in the dome.and I don't trust any pitcher the braves part with.

Good point.And as RockNRolen said, I guess it's just a matter of when Baldelli is gone since there's a lot of legit interest out there. With Delmon and Elijah coming up, it may be the best move in the end to get rid of him.

 

[cubd8]

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/ch...-home-headlines

If its not in here as confirmed yet, Cubs ink Marquis for 3years / $20m

So combined, thats 7 years / $60 million for Ted Lilly and Jason Marquis.

I think it makes the Lilly deal look better.

Better than Rich Hill and Sean Marshall. That's kinda like being the tallest midget though.

You think so? I think Rich Hill and Sean Marshall show decent promise as left handed starters. Can't they be expected to improve on their rookie seasons?

Both showed some flashes, and will probably compete for spots. Having a couple of inning eaters ahead of them takes some pressure off.

Rich Hill has a chance to be really good. Marshall looks like he can be a solid pitcher, maybe a #4 starter, but he may end up going back to the minors now for more seasoning.

Personally, I'd much rather spend the money elsewhere than sign Marquis, and plug Marshall into the role...of course, Suppan is my #1 option at this point for the Cubs, but he must be asking for really big money.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

I know that Kerry Wood is now a relief pitcher, but what about Mark Prior?

What's his story? Is he going to play in 2007?

 

[Capella]

Braves have a hard-on for Baldelli

offering chuck james :(

He's decent.

decent doesn't do it.

3.78 ERA in 25 games from a 25 year old lefty doesn't impress you?Or are you holding out for Marcus Giles?

flyball pitcher. not good shtick in the dome.and I don't trust any pitcher the braves part with.

Good point.And as RockNRolen said, I guess it's just a matter of when Baldelli is gone since there's a lot of legit interest out there. With Delmon and Elijah coming up, it may be the best move in the end to get rid of him.

He's going to be better and more stable than Elijah. If the best they can do is Chuck f'n James, they might as well fold up shop.

 

[MrPhoenix]

Braves have a hard-on for Baldelli

offering chuck james :(

He's decent.

decent doesn't do it.

3.78 ERA in 25 games from a 25 year old lefty doesn't impress you?Or are you holding out for Marcus Giles?

flyball pitcher. not good shtick in the dome.and I don't trust any pitcher the braves part with.

Good point.And as RockNRolen said, I guess it's just a matter of when Baldelli is gone since there's a lot of legit interest out there. With Delmon and Elijah coming up, it may be the best move in the end to get rid of him.

He's going to be better and more stable than Elijah. If the best they can do is Chuck f'n James, they might as well fold up shop.

But he's Chuck James, B*TCH!

 

[cubd8]

I know that Kerry Wood is now a relief pitcher, but what about Mark Prior?What's his story? Is he going to play in 2007?

Just heard pitching coach larry rothchild on the radio last night - they are saying Prior/Wade Miller/Kerry Wood are all healthy, but it's going to be hard to tell until they actually start pitching.At least they aren't going into the season counting on them, and, right now, the rotation looks like this:1) Zambrano2) Lilly3) Marquis4) Hill5) Marshall with oompeition from Prior/Miller

 

[RnR]

I know that Kerry Wood is now a relief pitcher, but what about Mark Prior?What's his story? Is he going to play in 2007?

Just heard pitching coach larry rothchild on the radio last night - they are saying Prior/Wade Miller/Kerry Wood are all healthy, but it's going to be hard to tell until they actually start pitching.At least they aren't going into the season counting on them, and, right now, the rotation looks like this:1) Zambrano2) Lilly3) Marquis4) Hill5) Marshall with oompeition from Prior/Miller

See, this is what makes the Marquis signing look like overkill. Assuming that Zambrano, Lilly, and Hill hold down 3/5 of the rotation, I think it is a reasonable expectation that 2 of Prior, Miller, Marshall, Marmol, and possibly even Wood can hold down the 4/5 slots this season. Add in the fact that Marquis was horrendous last season and is getting big money for 3 seasons, it seems like a really stupid signing.

 

[Mr. Know-It-All]

I just hope the Astros try to one up the Cubs by signing Mulder. That would make me very, very happy.

PS - if no one wants Chuck James, we'd be happy to have him. We''l give you Mulder for him.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

A quote about the Royals' signing of Meche from another site:

“This is like a family on welfare buying a plasma TV that doesn’t work.”

 

[Keys Myaths]

A quote about the Royals' signing of Meche from another site:

“This is like a family on welfare buying a plasma TV that doesn’t work.”

Where did you find that?

 

[the moops]

A quote about the Royals' signing of Meche from another site:

“This is like a family on welfare buying a plasma TV that doesn’t work.”

Where did you find that?

More like a plasma that works like your regular old 19 inch color.

 

[MrPhoenix]

I think the Meche signing was smart. Yes, he's a middle of the road pitcher and the Royals clearly overpaid him. But they have a new GM and he wanted to send the organization a message that things are going to be different now. Players and staff that are used to losing get a reminder that things will be shaken up. On a purely talent basis, it was a bad contract. But it's just one contract. To give a new GM some press (who was talking about the Royals before?) and help him send a message, I think it was a good move.

Had they gone out and signed a pitcher that mattered (i.e took a chance on Mark Mulder), I would see your point.I hope you are right eventually, though.

 

[cubd8]

I think the Meche signing was smart. Yes, he's a middle of the road pitcher and the Royals clearly overpaid him. But they have a new GM and he wanted to send the organization a message that things are going to be different now. Players and staff that are used to losing get a reminder that things will be shaken up. On a purely talent basis, it was a bad contract. But it's just one contract. To give a new GM some press (who was talking about the Royals before?) and help him send a message, I think it was a good move.

How does KC's offense stack up with the rest of the AL ?Obviously, they are young, but I know there are some hitters there with upside.

 

[the moops]

I think the Meche signing was smart. Yes, he's a middle of the road pitcher and the Royals clearly overpaid him. But they have a new GM and he wanted to send the organization a message that things are going to be different now. Players and staff that are used to losing get a reminder that things will be shaken up. On a purely talent basis, it was a bad contract. But it's just one contract. To give a new GM some press (who was talking about the Royals before?) and help him send a message, I think it was a good move.

Smart?He hasn't been a middle of the road starter since 2000. He has been below average in every conceivable category. Too many walks, not enough strikeouts (although last year he had a bunch), too many homeruns allowed, etc.If that is the new GM's message...that he will pay stupid amount of money for AAAA pitching...well, I would imagine he wont be GM too long.Overpaying for mediocrity (with little upside) is what kills franchises. Either pay for studs, or sign high upside, undervalued talent.KC had a payroll of 49 million last year. They are paying Gil freakin Meche nearly 1/5th of that (9 mill). 1/5th of the payroll is alotted for that? Wow, just wow.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Overpaying for mediocrity (with little upside) is what kills franchises. Either pay for studs, or sign high upside, undervalued talent.

Why would studs go to KC? That's the Catch 22, studs don't think you are a prime FA destination until you win, and you don't win unless you have studs. No, overpaying for mediocrity CONSISTENTLY is what kills franchises. Now if Moore signed five more guys at giant contracts, then you can say he's running the team into the ground. It's one contract. Every team has at least one bad contract on it's roster. Even good medium range cost veterans, do you think they want to go to KC? The only people going to KC are people who can't find a job anywhere else. There's a reason why they can't find a job anywhere else. Signing Meche gives Moore some street cred. People take notice. Other GMs take notice. There are times when a franchise has to roll the hard six. Sometimes its better to occasionally overpay one player than to give the franchise and the fans the perception that you are a loser, you are going to do nothing and you accept being a loser.

Pudge Rodriguez. I give him a lot of credit for coming to Detroit and Detroit a lot of credit for paying him more than the market value at the time. I think this theory is supported by Pudge and what the Tigers have done since.

 

[MrPhoenix]

The Royals have a pretty putrid offense. But to be fair to their new GM, he's gunning for pitching and more pitching this offseason. Besides Meche, he picked up Dotel for his bullpen. There were some Rule 5 guys and they got Bannister from the Mets.

KC has a kid at first, Shealy, and another in the outfield, Emil Brown, who might have a decent upside. Mark Teahan, who came from the A's farm system, was expected to give much much more offensively. Reggie Sanders and Mike Sweeney are the veteran bats who go feast or famine. More famine that anything.

This offense is definitely busted, but to be fair, the old Royals strategy was to try and be another MoneyBall team, thus picking up Teahan. I think it will be a few years before the new GM Dayton Moore turns it around. I'd say he probably has to start from scratch at this point, but to his benefit, no one is expecting anything out of the Royals.

I suspect Moore will wait out the current market and grab a few cheap veterans at the end, let them provide a little veteran leadership for his younger guys and, if they are somewhat productive, try to trade them at the deadline for even more young warm bodies.

Emil Brown? Upside? THE GUY IS 32 YEARS OLD!

 

[the moops]

Overpaying for mediocrity (with little upside) is what kills franchises. Either pay for studs, or sign high upside, undervalued talent.

Why would studs go to KC? That's the Catch 22, studs don't think you are a prime FA destination until you win, and you don't win unless you have studs. No, overpaying for mediocrity CONSISTENTLY is what kills franchises. Now if Moore signed five more guys at giant contracts, then you can say he's running the team into the ground. It's one contract. Every team has at least one bad contract on it's roster. Even good medium range cost veterans, do you think they want to go to KC? The only people going to KC are people who can't find a job anywhere else. There's a reason why they can't find a job anywhere else. Signing Meche gives Moore some street cred. People take notice. Other GMs take notice. There are times when a franchise has to roll the hard six. Sometimes its better to occasionally overpay one player than to give the franchise and the fans the perception that you are a loser, you are going to do nothing and you accept being a loser.

You realize that Gil Meche signed the largest contract in KC's history?If that doesnt make you cringe, I dont know what would.KC will have to overpay for premiere free agents. But players will play there.I can't imagine any fan of a team with a 50 million dollar payroll being happy with a 10 million dollar a year scrub anchoring their staff.I dont know how this gives Moore street cred. I would imagine most other GMs are shaking their heads and laughing at this signing.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

The Royals have a pretty putrid offense. But to be fair to their new GM, he's gunning for pitching and more pitching this offseason. Besides Meche, he picked up Dotel for his bullpen. There were some Rule 5 guys and they got Bannister from the Mets.

KC has a kid at first, Shealy, and another in the outfield, Emil Brown, who might have a decent upside. Mark Teahan, who came from the A's farm system, was expected to give much much more offensively. Reggie Sanders and Mike Sweeney are the veteran bats who go feast or famine. More famine that anything.

This offense is definitely busted, but to be fair, the old Royals strategy was to try and be another MoneyBall team, thus picking up Teahan. I think it will be a few years before the new GM Dayton Moore turns it around. I'd say he probably has to start from scratch at this point, but to his benefit, no one is expecting anything out of the Royals.

I suspect Moore will wait out the current market and grab a few cheap veterans at the end, let them provide a little veteran leadership for his younger guys and, if they are somewhat productive, try to trade them at the deadline for even more young warm bodies.

Emil Brown? Upside? THE GUY IS 32 YEARS OLD!

I'm about that age and I have a ton of upside. Don't hate guy.

 

[MrPhoenix]

The Royals have a pretty putrid offense. But to be fair to their new GM, he's gunning for pitching and more pitching this offseason. Besides Meche, he picked up Dotel for his bullpen. There were some Rule 5 guys and they got Bannister from the Mets.

KC has a kid at first, Shealy, and another in the outfield, Emil Brown, who might have a decent upside. Mark Teahan, who came from the A's farm system, was expected to give much much more offensively. Reggie Sanders and Mike Sweeney are the veteran bats who go feast or famine. More famine that anything.

This offense is definitely busted, but to be fair, the old Royals strategy was to try and be another MoneyBall team, thus picking up Teahan. I think it will be a few years before the new GM Dayton Moore turns it around. I'd say he probably has to start from scratch at this point, but to his benefit, no one is expecting anything out of the Royals.

I suspect Moore will wait out the current market and grab a few cheap veterans at the end, let them provide a little veteran leadership for his younger guys and, if they are somewhat productive, try to trade them at the deadline for even more young warm bodies.

Emil Brown? Upside? THE GUY IS 32 YEARS OLD!

I'm about that age and I have a ton of upside. Don't hate guy.

You play beisbol?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

The Royals have a pretty putrid offense. But to be fair to their new GM, he's gunning for pitching and more pitching this offseason. Besides Meche, he picked up Dotel for his bullpen. There were some Rule 5 guys and they got Bannister from the Mets.

KC has a kid at first, Shealy, and another in the outfield, Emil Brown, who might have a decent upside. Mark Teahan, who came from the A's farm system, was expected to give much much more offensively. Reggie Sanders and Mike Sweeney are the veteran bats who go feast or famine. More famine that anything.

This offense is definitely busted, but to be fair, the old Royals strategy was to try and be another MoneyBall team, thus picking up Teahan. I think it will be a few years before the new GM Dayton Moore turns it around. I'd say he probably has to start from scratch at this point, but to his benefit, no one is expecting anything out of the Royals.

I suspect Moore will wait out the current market and grab a few cheap veterans at the end, let them provide a little veteran leadership for his younger guys and, if they are somewhat productive, try to trade them at the deadline for even more young warm bodies.

Emil Brown? Upside? THE GUY IS 32 YEARS OLD!

I'm about that age and I have a ton of upside. Don't hate guy.

You play beisbol?

Starting 3B for my intramurial softball team.

 

[Encyclopedia Brown]

How does KC's offense stack up with the rest of the AL ?Obviously, they are young, but I know there are some hitters there with upside.

Whatever happened to the young catcher that they got from Houston in the Beltran trade? I thought he was one of the top propsects in the minors.

 

[MrPhoenix]

How does KC's offense stack up with the rest of the AL ?Obviously, they are young, but I know there are some hitters there with upside.

Whatever happened to the young catcher that they got from Houston in the Beltran trade? I thought he was one of the top propsects in the minors.

John Buck? I think he was their starting C last year. He's ok.

 

[MrPhoenix]

The Royals have a pretty putrid offense. But to be fair to their new GM, he's gunning for pitching and more pitching this offseason. Besides Meche, he picked up Dotel for his bullpen. There were some Rule 5 guys and they got Bannister from the Mets.

KC has a kid at first, Shealy, and another in the outfield, Emil Brown, who might have a decent upside. Mark Teahan, who came from the A's farm system, was expected to give much much more offensively. Reggie Sanders and Mike Sweeney are the veteran bats who go feast or famine. More famine that anything.

This offense is definitely busted, but to be fair, the old Royals strategy was to try and be another MoneyBall team, thus picking up Teahan. I think it will be a few years before the new GM Dayton Moore turns it around. I'd say he probably has to start from scratch at this point, but to his benefit, no one is expecting anything out of the Royals.

I suspect Moore will wait out the current market and grab a few cheap veterans at the end, let them provide a little veteran leadership for his younger guys and, if they are somewhat productive, try to trade them at the deadline for even more young warm bodies.

Emil Brown? Upside? THE GUY IS 32 YEARS OLD!

I'm about that age and I have a ton of upside. Don't hate guy.

You play beisbol?

Starting 3B for my intramurial softball team.

Do you pitch left-handed?

 

[Doctor Detroit]

The Royals have a pretty putrid offense. But to be fair to their new GM, he's gunning for pitching and more pitching this offseason. Besides Meche, he picked up Dotel for his bullpen. There were some Rule 5 guys and they got Bannister from the Mets.

KC has a kid at first, Shealy, and another in the outfield, Emil Brown, who might have a decent upside. Mark Teahan, who came from the A's farm system, was expected to give much much more offensively. Reggie Sanders and Mike Sweeney are the veteran bats who go feast or famine. More famine that anything.

This offense is definitely busted, but to be fair, the old Royals strategy was to try and be another MoneyBall team, thus picking up Teahan. I think it will be a few years before the new GM Dayton Moore turns it around. I'd say he probably has to start from scratch at this point, but to his benefit, no one is expecting anything out of the Royals.

I suspect Moore will wait out the current market and grab a few cheap veterans at the end, let them provide a little veteran leadership for his younger guys and, if they are somewhat productive, try to trade them at the deadline for even more young warm bodies.

Emil Brown? Upside? THE GUY IS 32 YEARS OLD!

I'm about that age and I have a ton of upside. Don't hate guy.

You play beisbol?

Starting 3B for my intramurial softball team.

Do you pitch left-handed?

No I broke three fingers with this Charo looking gal back in 95. I recovered physically but I could never put my left hand in a glove to retrieve an object again. Really painful memories.

 

[MrPhoenix]

The Royals have a pretty putrid offense. But to be fair to their new GM, he's gunning for pitching and more pitching this offseason. Besides Meche, he picked up Dotel for his bullpen. There were some Rule 5 guys and they got Bannister from the Mets.

KC has a kid at first, Shealy, and another in the outfield, Emil Brown, who might have a decent upside. Mark Teahan, who came from the A's farm system, was expected to give much much more offensively. Reggie Sanders and Mike Sweeney are the veteran bats who go feast or famine. More famine that anything.

This offense is definitely busted, but to be fair, the old Royals strategy was to try and be another MoneyBall team, thus picking up Teahan. I think it will be a few years before the new GM Dayton Moore turns it around. I'd say he probably has to start from scratch at this point, but to his benefit, no one is expecting anything out of the Royals.

I suspect Moore will wait out the current market and grab a few cheap veterans at the end, let them provide a little veteran leadership for his younger guys and, if they are somewhat productive, try to trade them at the deadline for even more young warm bodies.

Emil Brown? Upside? THE GUY IS 32 YEARS OLD!

I'm about that age and I have a ton of upside. Don't hate guy.

You play beisbol?

Starting 3B for my intramurial softball team.

Do you pitch left-handed?

No I broke three fingers with this Charo looking gal back in 95. I recovered physically but I could never put my left hand in a glove to retrieve an object again. Really painful memories.

Um....we'll be in touch. And don't worry, WE'LL call you.:strikesdoctordetroitfromconsideration:

 

[Doctor Detroit]

The Royals have a pretty putrid offense. But to be fair to their new GM, he's gunning for pitching and more pitching this offseason. Besides Meche, he picked up Dotel for his bullpen. There were some Rule 5 guys and they got Bannister from the Mets.

KC has a kid at first, Shealy, and another in the outfield, Emil Brown, who might have a decent upside. Mark Teahan, who came from the A's farm system, was expected to give much much more offensively. Reggie Sanders and Mike Sweeney are the veteran bats who go feast or famine. More famine that anything.

This offense is definitely busted, but to be fair, the old Royals strategy was to try and be another MoneyBall team, thus picking up Teahan. I think it will be a few years before the new GM Dayton Moore turns it around. I'd say he probably has to start from scratch at this point, but to his benefit, no one is expecting anything out of the Royals.

I suspect Moore will wait out the current market and grab a few cheap veterans at the end, let them provide a little veteran leadership for his younger guys and, if they are somewhat productive, try to trade them at the deadline for even more young warm bodies.

Emil Brown? Upside? THE GUY IS 32 YEARS OLD!

I'm about that age and I have a ton of upside. Don't hate guy.

You play beisbol?

Starting 3B for my intramurial softball team.

Do you pitch left-handed?

No I broke three fingers with this Charo looking gal back in 95. I recovered physically but I could never put my left hand in a glove to retrieve an object again. Really painful memories.

Um....we'll be in touch. And don't worry, WE'LL call you.:strikesdoctordetroitfromconsideration:

Damn all the leathery women I've plated. Damn you!

 

[MrPhoenix]

The Royals have a pretty putrid offense. But to be fair to their new GM, he's gunning for pitching and more pitching this offseason. Besides Meche, he picked up Dotel for his bullpen. There were some Rule 5 guys and they got Bannister from the Mets.

KC has a kid at first, Shealy, and another in the outfield, Emil Brown, who might have a decent upside. Mark Teahan, who came from the A's farm system, was expected to give much much more offensively. Reggie Sanders and Mike Sweeney are the veteran bats who go feast or famine. More famine that anything.

This offense is definitely busted, but to be fair, the old Royals strategy was to try and be another MoneyBall team, thus picking up Teahan. I think it will be a few years before the new GM Dayton Moore turns it around. I'd say he probably has to start from scratch at this point, but to his benefit, no one is expecting anything out of the Royals.

I suspect Moore will wait out the current market and grab a few cheap veterans at the end, let them provide a little veteran leadership for his younger guys and, if they are somewhat productive, try to trade them at the deadline for even more young warm bodies.

Emil Brown? Upside? THE GUY IS 32 YEARS OLD!

I'm about that age and I have a ton of upside. Don't hate guy.

You play beisbol?

Starting 3B for my intramurial softball team.

Do you pitch left-handed?

No I broke three fingers with this Charo looking gal back in 95. I recovered physically but I could never put my left hand in a glove to retrieve an object again. Really painful memories.

Um....we'll be in touch. And don't worry, WE'LL call you.:strikesdoctordetroitfromconsideration:

Damn all the leathery women I've plated. Damn you!

Your experience is good, but the Kansas City Royals organization has strict standards when it comes to signing players. Like being below-average for a duration of your career and having the basic ability to catch a ball. In your case, you fail the second part of the equation. Good luck in your future endeavors and have a great season, guy.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

The Royals have a pretty putrid offense. But to be fair to their new GM, he's gunning for pitching and more pitching this offseason. Besides Meche, he picked up Dotel for his bullpen. There were some Rule 5 guys and they got Bannister from the Mets.

KC has a kid at first, Shealy, and another in the outfield, Emil Brown, who might have a decent upside. Mark Teahan, who came from the A's farm system, was expected to give much much more offensively. Reggie Sanders and Mike Sweeney are the veteran bats who go feast or famine. More famine that anything.

This offense is definitely busted, but to be fair, the old Royals strategy was to try and be another MoneyBall team, thus picking up Teahan. I think it will be a few years before the new GM Dayton Moore turns it around. I'd say he probably has to start from scratch at this point, but to his benefit, no one is expecting anything out of the Royals.

I suspect Moore will wait out the current market and grab a few cheap veterans at the end, let them provide a little veteran leadership for his younger guys and, if they are somewhat productive, try to trade them at the deadline for even more young warm bodies.

Emil Brown? Upside? THE GUY IS 32 YEARS OLD!

I'm about that age and I have a ton of upside. Don't hate guy.

You play beisbol?

Starting 3B for my intramurial softball team.

Do you pitch left-handed?

No I broke three fingers with this Charo looking gal back in 95. I recovered physically but I could never put my left hand in a glove to retrieve an object again. Really painful memories.

Um....we'll be in touch. And don't worry, WE'LL call you.:strikesdoctordetroitfromconsideration:

Damn all the leathery women I've plated. Damn you!

Your experience is good, but the Kansas City Royals organization has strict standards when it comes to signing players. Like being below-average for a duration of your career and having the basic ability to catch a ball. In your case, you fail the second part of the equation. Good luck in your future endeavors and have a great season, guy.

When did this happen? Man that new GM has set the bar high. :worriedtigersfan:

 

[MrPhoenix]

Your experience is good, but the Kansas City Royals organization has strict standards when it comes to signing players. Like being below-average for a duration of your career and having the basic ability to catch a ball. In your case, you fail the second part of the equation. Good luck in your future endeavors and have a great season, guy.

When did this happen? Man that new GM has set the bar high. :worriedtigersfan:

Don't worry. I hear the Devil Rays continue to have low standards for signing free agents. Take Travis Lee, Greg Norton, and Damon Hollins for instance.

 

[Capella]

KC will have to overpay for premiere free agents. But players will play there.

No, they won't. Not most of them. Like I said, Meche's contract is odds on not a value signing. But I think that's what the market will bear. How many starting pitchers signing more than 3-4 year length contracts have really helped their new teams and given those teams a great value for their dollar? I'd argue that signing a starting pitcher to a lengthy contract is already a high risk low reward move no matter who you sign. Mike Mussina didn't do half bad, but look at Kevin Brown, Chan Ho Park, Mike Hampton, Denny Neagle, the list goes on and on.My contention is that Dayton Moore knows Meche's contract is a bad contract, but he is also factoring in the value of the signing in terms of intangibles outside of Meche's actual production. The guy is trying to do something instead of doing nothing. For a franchise like KC that has been in the dumps for so long, I can't really fault a guy for trying to do something besides let the franchise wait and die.

Then do it the right way. Spend the ridiculous money on good players. None of them care about winning.Throw 25 million a pop at Soriano. You think he cares about winning? Christ he probably can't even spell winning. Plus he just signed with the Cubs -- might as well play football at Temple.The guy goes out there, hits the beisbol, prays to jobu and goes home. Doesn't matter what colors are on his uniform. If you're going to be a moron with your money to prove a point, then do it with players other than Gil fn Meche.

 

[Daywalker]

Is it surprising that KC had to overspend to lure a free agent? Why else would anyone sign with them?

 

[loser]

You guys do realize this entire page is dedicated to the Royals, right?

But that's what Moore wants, huh? People talking about his crappy signings?

 

[ThisGuy]

You guys do realize this entire page is dedicated to the Royals, right?But that's what Moore wants, huh? People talking about his crappy signings?

You do realize that there are women on this board that moan about "only the Red Sox and Yankees get talked about, blah, blah, blah. This is the Official Offseason Moves thread! We will even talk about the Pirates, if they ever do anything.

 

[loser]

You guys do realize this entire page is dedicated to the Royals, right?But that's what Moore wants, huh? People talking about his crappy signings?

You do realize that there are women on this board that moan about "only the Red Sox and Yankees get talked about, blah, blah, blah. This is the Official Offseason Moves thread! We will even talk about the Pirates, if they ever do anything.

My point is, I hardly consider this "doing anything".

 

[ThisGuy]

You guys do realize this entire page is dedicated to the Royals, right?But that's what Moore wants, huh? People talking about his crappy signings?

You do realize that there are women on this board that moan about "only the Red Sox and Yankees get talked about, blah, blah, blah. This is the Official Offseason Moves thread! We will even talk about the Pirates, if they ever do anything.

My point is, I hardly consider this "doing anything".

Really? The Royals are typically dormant this time of year. They shelled out top $ for the "best" available pitcher. Whether it's a good move or not is certainly the discussion here. The fact that the Royals have given us something to talk about is exciting to some.

 

[loser]

You guys do realize this entire page is dedicated to the Royals, right?But that's what Moore wants, huh? People talking about his crappy signings?

You do realize that there are women on this board that moan about "only the Red Sox and Yankees get talked about, blah, blah, blah. This is the Official Offseason Moves thread! We will even talk about the Pirates, if they ever do anything.

My point is, I hardly consider this "doing anything".

Really? The Royals are typically dormant this time of year. They shelled out top $ for the "best" available pitcher. Whether it's a good move or not is certainly the discussion here. The fact that the Royals have given us something to talk about is exciting to some.

Fair enough.So how bout them Yankees and Red Sox?

 

[Statorama]

Don't know if this was posted in the thread or not, but it's a handy bookmark.

MLB's 2006 Free Agent Tracker

 

[Capella]

it is kind of surprising to me that Huff is still out there.