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tell it to '07 ryan grant owners.Gotta love the naive enthusiasm of fantasy addicts hoping to get the scoop on the latest stud-to-be.
When a fifth-string running back actually has a 'bandwagon', you know it's slim pickens.
Maroney
Jordan
Morris
Faulk
Green-Ellis-Newton-John
Im considering benching Michael Turner for BJGEFWIW I'm starting BJGE at the flex. It is BJGE or Dunn, Rudi, or Chris Henry
Sounds like someone who has never seen him play.
(Rotoworld) Lamont Jordan (calf) was unable to practice on Thursday.Analysis: Jordan seems to have a slightly better shot to play this week than Sammy Morris, but they aren't worth counting on. It's likely that neither will be listed as better than "questionable" on Friday's final injury report.(Rotoworld) Lamont Jordan (calf) is unlikely to be available against the Rams in Week 8, according to NFL.com's Adam Schefter.Analysis: It appears that even if Jordan is pronounced questionable Friday, that will just be the Pats playing games on the injury report. With Sammy Morris also very unlikely to play, New England will roll with a RBBC against the Rams.
We don't need your negative energy. If you want to bash on BJGE I'm sure it would be more appropriate in another thread, perhaps one that is not dedicated as a support thread for BJGE.
Bulger a sneaky play this week?I'm in the vast minority but I see the Rams winning this game. I wouldn't be surprised if they blow out the Pats either. The Rams have been a COMPLETELY different team under Haslett. You can see the offense starting to gel (see all the waiver wire recommendations for Donnie Avery) and the defense has been making plays (7 sacks, 7 turnovers, 17 points and 14 allowed against the Redskins and Cowboys) under Haslett. Yes, the Cowboys lost Romo but they still had everyone else on offense. If the Rams can dominate a Cowboys team that currently has more talent on offense than the Pats, why can't they do the same against the Pats? On the Pats' side, they're down to Cassel and the 4th string practice squad RB no one had ever heard of until this week. I'd roll with the Rams D for a sneaky play and look for 3-5 sacks and a couple of turnovers this week.This seems to be the trend lately. Someone starts a "All aboard" thread for any scrub in the hopes he does well. I call it the "Switz syndrome"
Why not? There's been other players just as suspect as Green-Ellis that have had bandwagons. LeRon McClain comes to mind. The idea with bandwagons is to jump on early enough so you look like a genius if it pays off. Look at the Chris Johnson bandwagoners. The ones that jumped on early enough were rewarded handsomely. The ones who waited, were out of luck because the bandwagon was already full.Edit because I didn't look like a genius when I spelled genius wrong.
Well, let's not forget the fact that, despite having a generally 'blah' set of running backs, the New England brass never considered him good enough to play until everyone else got hurt. (And I believe they saw him play)
Again I'm in the minority here but I see things the other way around. Assuming SJax plays, I see the Rams putting up a lot of points and controlling the clock, with the Pats struggling to keep up and turning the ball over. In other words, a repeat of the Rams-Cowboys game.If you want to bet on a rookie breaking out in this game, I'd go with Donnie Avery.
Don't be surprised if they vote you out of the league once this guy hits it big.
I don't think Green-Ellis is anything close to an impact rookie in the mold of Peterson or Chris Johnson.What he is is a durable back who's performed well in both the Big-10 and the SEC on teams with poor overall talent levels. When Maroney went down, he was the first player signing for depth.He's got a shot to play and very questionable players in front of him: Sammy Morris, Lamont Jordan, and Kevin Faulk to compete with. He's got what every rookie wants: a chance to earn some PT.He runs with good pad level and vision. He's got good short area quicks.I'm not sure why he can't claim his share of the carries long term if he performs well.He's got the skills and the opportunity for extended production. He's the kind of guy you take your chance with now or he's on someone else's roster shortly.
Or that he is a rookie and so on.But saying a guy who looked good against a bad D last week...going up against another bad D this week does not deserve a bandwagon (given the hype on Torrain right now) is a bit out there IMO.Or they considered him a rookie who they trusted the other guys in front of him but did not just think he was not good enough to play in this league.
I'd rather start Bulger when they play their NFC West divisional games, but if you also think the Rams can win or at least be competitive in this game, sure why not? The Pats' secondary can be exploited, especially if their gameplan is to shut down SJax. The guy I really like this week is Donnie Avery.
That statement may embarrass you by Sunday night.
Everyone has a bandwagon. The question is whether or not we are smart enough to get on before it's gone.
That's a bit of a specious statement. BJGE was an UDFA who went into camp on a team with a #1 pick as the starter (Maroney), a recently signed vet who looked good last year and was the unquestioned #2 guy (Morris), a proven vet 3rd down back (Faulk), a new vet FA signed as injury insurance (Jordan) and a FB (Evans). Barring injury, him not making the 53 was hardly any sort of indictment of his talent.What speaks to his talent is that he was one of the first players they signed to the PS, and they didn't hesitate to activate him to the 53 the second Maroney's injury looked serious.As a Pats homer, I'm cautiously optimistic and just hope he is good enough to give the team a respectable ground game the next 2-3 weeks before Morris and/or Jordan return.For those looking to BJGE to be the Ryan Grant of 2008, I don't see it happening, unless Jordan AND Morris miss huge chunks of time. When those guys are healthy, they will be starting.Another thing to bear in mind, BJGE will surely only be a first & second down back with Faulk coming in on third, and certainly will be on the field for all passing downs.
It happens every year ... Earnest Graham, Aaron Stecker, and Justin Fargas had been buried on the depth charts for years before they got the opportunites to produce last year.Samkon Gado was buried on the depth chart
I saw him play last week.He got the job done but I didn't think he looked like some great RB. He was a bit plodding.BGE and Matt Cassel, IMO, both had good days because of what their own team was doing AND what DEN wasn't doing.So, BGE may be in the right position at the right time to put up some decent stats for a week or two, but he isn't going to be the next great late round RB.It'll be interesting to see how the NE goal line package plays out. I suspect that both Evans and Faulk will get goal line work because they can catch well. And you may see more of the Vrable TE or Seymour FB if Evans is being used as a ball carrier/catcher.
Earnest GrahamDomanick DavisGotta love the naive enthusiasm of fantasy addicts hoping to get the scoop on the latest stud-to-be.
When a fifth-string running back actually has a 'bandwagon', you know it's slim pickens.
Maroney
Jordan
Morris
Faulk
Green-Ellis-Newton-John
I think he is the shark play the next few weeks. Probably 50-60 rushing, 30-40 receiving, and my guess is lots of red zone looks which gives him higher chance to score than normal weeks. Maybe 1-2 TDs over the next few games.
I strongly considered picking up and playing Benson, given my RB woes for this week (Jacobs vs PIT, LJ benched, Moore vs NYG, Pittman, Torain on bye, Ricky being, well, Ricky). However, having lived in Chicago back when he played there, I just can't get those nightmares out of my head. Plus, CIN will almost certainly be well behind AGAIN and take him out of the gameplan. I also considered Ahman Green, but someone else snatched him up. Besides, he gets hurt if you look at him too hard.I am willing to take a flyer on him and probably drop Ricky "gimme ganja" Williams. I just picked up Moore (for depth) and Torain (another flyer). Since Moore probably won't be very productive this week, I wouldn't need GE to burn the house down the rest of the way. If it turns out he does, I'll have him and, more importantly, no one else in my league will!Here's to hoping that "GE brings good things to light!"
It's a shot in the dark. But it's a shot you've got to take this week or he's gone next if he produces.Could be nothing or could be the biggest acquisition of the season.He's certainly got the right situation.
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A couple key differences:1. Grant had spent 2 seasons with the Giants before being traded (so he had quite a bit of experience, at least in practice)2. the main reason Grant was buried on the depth chart last year was because he was traded just before the season began.
Wow... one game & now the O is rolling again? I'm not convinced the Cassel led Pats are ready to put consistent points on the board, and for sure they won't rush for 150 in the 1st half. I'll be happy enough to see them score in the mid 20s.Hopefully, they'll stack the line, stuff SJax, and force Bulger to beat them. Make a play or 2 on D and win a close one.Not much of a stretch given the Rams last 2 games, but NE will try to take away SJAX, so it will be interesting. I expect the Patriots to put up a lot of points in this game; not sure that STL can keep up...I'm in the vast minority but I see the Rams winning this game. I wouldn't be surprised if they blow out the Pats either. The Rams have been a COMPLETELY different team under Haslett. You can see the offense starting to gel (see all the waiver wire recommendations for Donnie Avery) and the defense has been making plays (7 sacks, 7 turnovers, 17 points and 14 allowed against the Redskins and Cowboys) under Haslett. Yes, the Cowboys lost Romo but they still had everyone else on offense. If the Rams can dominate a Cowboys team that currently has more talent on offense than the Pats, why can't they do the same against the Pats? On the Pats' side, they're down to Cassel and the 4th string practice squad RB no one had ever heard of until this week. I'd roll with the Rams D for a sneaky play and look for 3-5 sacks and a couple of turnovers this week.This seems to be the trend lately. Someone starts a "All aboard" thread for any scrub in the hopes he does well. I call it the "Switz syndrome"
uh....wasn't he buried on the depth chart in ny?
The 4 guys who were ahead of Grant in NY (Brandon Jacobs, Reuben Droughns, Derrick Ward and Ahmad Bradshaw) were superior to the 3 guys ahead of Grant in Green Bay (Jackson, Wynn, Morency).Grant couldn't beat out Jacobs or Droughns in training camp, but he probably would have been able to beat out Jackson, Wynn and/or Morency if he'd been with the Packers since Day One.That's where Grant's situation is different from BJGE's situation. BJGE has been with the Patriots since May 1 but he was never able to beat out Maroney, Jordan, or Morris.
If you get production out of BJGE, it means he did well with his opportunity - and that changes everything (Morris is not SJax or anything.) It's been FF hell for awhile in the NE backfield, but that's probably more due to the guys there than anything else. If there was ever a situation for someone to claim a RB job, this is it. I didn't hear much of him until last week - I got him in two leagues. In a few others, he was long gone. That tells me something right there.
Haven't we learned that anything is possible yet?
