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Official Bishop Sankey - Best RB in the 2014 Draft (2 Viewers)
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Louche
Footballguy
If you're chasing the best bet for instant production for 2014 among the rookie RBs, then yeah Sankey is the guy. He has the shortest path to playing time. But in my opinion it is a little bit short-sighted. I'm well aware that the Titans O-line is their best position group, but what does that really do for their running game if they don't have a passing game that defenses respect? The opposing teams can put plenty of players in the box to stop the run, and then we are talking about an RB that worked with massive holes in a college spread offense who suddenly has to meet stacked boxes in the NFL - that's a pretty big transition. I think Whisenhunt is great, but he doesn't have a lot of pieces to play with - yeah, it will be exciting to see Justin Hunter this season and Kendall Wright is decent, but compared to other NFL teams it's just not a great group.
Their defense is not exactly loaded with talent neither so the Titans seem to be making a run for the #1 draft pick next year, and with that in mind; how many times in the second half will they have to abandon the run and start flinging the ball around? I'm not even going to jump into the discussion on talent and how different types of college RBs translate to the NFL, but I'm not sure how great Sankey's situation really is in Tennessee. On the surface it looks great, but apart from playing time and pure production through volume it's actually a pretty bad situation. I get that most people judge situation by probability of getting carries early, but I'm not sure if it is the best way of viewing it from a long term perspective unless you are the type of owner that is good at exploiting that early success through trades.
Their defense is not exactly loaded with talent neither so the Titans seem to be making a run for the #1 draft pick next year, and with that in mind; how many times in the second half will they have to abandon the run and start flinging the ball around? I'm not even going to jump into the discussion on talent and how different types of college RBs translate to the NFL, but I'm not sure how great Sankey's situation really is in Tennessee. On the surface it looks great, but apart from playing time and pure production through volume it's actually a pretty bad situation. I get that most people judge situation by probability of getting carries early, but I'm not sure if it is the best way of viewing it from a long term perspective unless you are the type of owner that is good at exploiting that early success through trades.
I would still have him #1 - but pre-draft I had them ranked:
Sankey
Hill
Mason
Hyde
I think the #2 spot is between Hyde and Mason. Hyde may have the edge because of Lattimore's injury history (it's hard to forget that leg flapping in the wind - ugh...). I like Mason's landing spot too. They just drafted Greg Robinson who is supposedly a dominant OL and I think Mason is a more dynamic runner than Stacy.... My initial thoughts are that Fischer may fall in love with Mason and may not be able to keep him off the field, but Stacy is there and is going to play....
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Jake Locker is mistake (and injury) prone, but he's been adequate to good on many occasions. The team also has a decent group of WRs with a lot of upisde if Hunter braks out.
The passing game isn't as dire as you make it sound - but on top of that many top fantasy RBs have been on teams that struggled to pass the ball. The "stacking the box" mantra is mostly myth that sounds good.
Louche
Footballguy
I have Hunter on practically all of my fantasy teams so I've gambled heavily on him breaking out at some point, but I still see that for an NFL team to have him as their primary x receiver going into the season...you're being pretty optimistic if you're viewing a team that has Justin Hunter as their #2 wide receiver as having a position of strength at WR. And behind Hunter you have Washington but then pretty much nothing. Michael Preston and Marc Mariani.... The scary part is; WR is arguably their strongest position group on offensive skill positions. Delanie Walker at TE and Jake Locker at QB, that is expansion level. It is for sure one of the weakest offensive rosters in the NFL. You can't seriously be arguing anything else? Is there any team that you would say has a weaker roster on offense?
To me it is pretty clear that they've punted this season. They used their first round pick and one of their fourth to build through their lines, which is a typical move for the future, they didn't have a third round pick and they picked a developmental corner late in the 4th even though they had bigger and more immediate needs in their front seven as they are transitioning into a hybrid odd front. They have a lot of Will type linebackers but they're lacking a true Mike and they hardly have any rush linebackers. They really ignored some apparent immediate needs in this draft both on offense and defense. I'm all for going best player available but for a team with that many weak spots to go BPA it means that they are positioning themselves to be in a really good position to get a QB next year.
Sankey and Whisenhunt are both up for a challenge this season. It would surprise me if Sankey was able to get 4.0 yards per carry this season. Short term for fantasy that doesn't really matter since his volume will put up points by itself, but from a slightly longer perspective Tennessee is not where you want your fantasy RB to play - the boxes are too crowded, there are too few TD opportunites and that low yards per carry will make you expendable. I'd rather go Hyde and hope that he can win that camp battle. Or I'd rather address other positions and take my lottery ticket on some of the RBs that will go in the next round or two instead.
Louche
Footballguy
I think Jake Locker is tremendously exciting to watch. And I think the Titans offense has the potential to be good if everything hits for them. But I don't think it is realistic and when comparing their depth chart to other teams I struggle to find an offense that looks worse.
cstu
Footballguy
The best part about the OL is that is has three young lineman on it - Lewan, Warmack and Schwenke - plus veterans Levitre and Oher signed to long-term deals. That's a line that will be together for a long time.
How will the NFL's Rookies impact fantasy football drafts?
With the NFL draft all said and done, fantasy football owners now have the next three months (give or take) to speculate on the potential value of the players drafted into the NFL. We already took a reactionary look at the fantasy value of the offensive skill players taken in the first round. Now that the entire draft is finished and the players have been introduced to their respective coaches and fans, we have a much clearer picture of their fantasy value. Correct that -- the "perceived" fantasy value. Going forward, you can rest assured knowing that these values will rise and fall like a fantasy wave as mini-camp and training camp news starts hitting.
BURKE, FARRAR: Grading the draft of every NFL team
Below, we analyze the newest members of the NFL based on where they might be drafted in a fantasy football draft this fall.
Possible early round pick (Rounds 1-5)
• Bishop Sankey, RB, Tennessee Titans -- A quick look back to last year's average draft positions shows that there were very few rookies taken in the first five rounds of fantasy drafts. The only ones taken among the top 60 picks in standard-scoring leagues were Eddie Lacy (No. 29 in a 12-team league), Giovani Bernard (No. 54) and Montee Ball (No. 65), according to fantasyfootballcalculator.com.
Sankey was not only the first running back taken (at No. 54, no less), but also the only tailback going to a situation where he'll likely end up with the lion's share of the carries. That alone makes him a top-30 running back going forward. Even then, he's not someone on which to burn a third-round pick. If you draft RB-WR-WR or RB-WR-QB with your first three picks, he's a decent option as an RB2, assuming he takes the starting gig from Shonn Greene.
FARRAR: Bishop Sankey becomes the first running back selected in 2014 NFL draft
Possible mid-round picks (Rounds 6-12)
There are first-year players that have a ton of talent, but are either being blocked by veterans, are in interesting situations about which we need more information or they play a deep fantasy position. Last year, there were six rookies whose ADP fell between rounds six and 12 in 12-team, standard-scoring formats -- Kenbrell Thompkins (No. 87), LeVeon Bell (No. 81), Tavon Austin (No. 95), DeAndre Hopkins (No. 118), Cordarelle Patterson (No. 139) and Christine Michael (No. 140).
• Sammy Watkins, WR, Buffalo Bills -- Watkins might have the best potential to become a Dez Bryant-type fantasy wide receiver, but he needs E.J. Manuel to develop quickly after a very shaky first season. The Bills sent Stevie Johnson to the 49ers last weekend, so Watkins will have to learn from Mike Williams and Robert Woods. Luckily, the Bills have some strong offensive weapons, and he won't take sole responsibility in the early going.
• Mike Evans, WR, Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Evans will also likely be picked up among the top 40 wide receivers on Draft Day, based mostly on potential. He's in a Hopkins-like situation from last season, joining a team with a shaky quarterback situation and a very good WR1 in Vincent Jackson on the other side. He also plays in what should be a relatively conservative offense under new head coach Lovie Smith.
• Brandin Cooks, WR, New Orleans Saints -- The Saints added one of the best offensive weapons in the draft, and they plan to use him all over, including as a kick returner. He'll pick up where Darren Sproles left off, and we can expect Drew Brees to utilize him frequently, possibly even taking targets away from Kenny Stills. Consider him a bigger Tavon Austin, and bump the Saints' already good DST up a couple spots in your rankings.
• Lache Seastrunk, RB, Washington Redskins -- Redskins' new head coach Jay Gruden used both BenJarvus Green-Ellis and Bernard last season, so a combination of Alfred Morris and Seastrunk makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately, Seastrunk playing in Washington hurts Morris' fantasy value more than it helps Seastrunk's.
• Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Carolina Panthers -- Benjamin's one of my favorite players for dynasty leagues because of his size and ability to go up and beat everyone for the football. Unfortunately he's going to be asked to do more than he's ready to in his first season, since he's going to the weakest wide-receiver unit in the NFL. Think of Cordarrelle Patterson's unpolished rookie season -- but with a real quarterback.
• Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagles -- Matthews led the SEC with 1,477 receiving yards on 112 catches at Vanderbilt, which is 45 more catches than second-place Jarvis Landry. Sure, it's a product of the system he was in at Vanderbilt, but the point is he has good hands and he gets open. In Philadelphia, he'll be joining Chip Kelly's equally quirky system, likely working out of the slot that Jason Avant occupied. "The one thing he does is catch the ball in traffic," Kelly told the Philadelphia Inquirer. "He made an unbelievable amount of contested catches. He has such a wing span and will to go up and get it." With Jeremy Maclin still coming back from injury, and Riley Cooper still trying to establish himself as a go-to receiver, Matthews has a great opportunity here.
Possible late-round picks (Rounds 13-16)
Many times, owners will take a shot on a rookie in the late rounds because we don't know what might happen. Last season, WRs Aaron Dobson and Markus Wheaton were among the rookies drafted in the final rounds of most drafts.
• Terrance West, RB, Cleveland Browns -- I had hoped the Browns would take Charles Sims here, as the perfect match in the backfield with Ben Tate. But West looks like a very good handcuff for Ben Tate's owners, considering the free-agent signee's injury history. West is a thick (225 pounds, 5-foot-9), fast running back who played at a small football school (Towson). He set FCS records in rushing yards (2,509) and touchdowns (41) last season.
• Jeremy Hill, RB, Cincinnati Bengals -- The Bengals took Hill as the second-highest drafted running back after Sankey, despite many higher rated tailbacks on the board. This should be the kiss of death for Green-Ellis, and Hill will serve as Bernard's backup. We also expect the Bengals to lean more on their running game with Gruden gone.
• Andre Williams, RB, New York Giants -- The Giants signed Rashad Jennings this season, and they have the most-hated man in fantasy football (David Wilson), now that Mike Shanahan is no longer in the NFL. Williams could battle Jennings for the top spot, although he has questionable hands at best.
• Eric Ebron, TE, Detroit Tigers -- If the tight end position wasn't so deep, Ebron would likely be a much higher draft pick. He'll eventually become Matthew Stafford's third-favorite receiving option, after Calvin Johnson and Reggie Bush. In the early going, however, he'll likely struggle -- outside of some red-zone chances. He will be drafted here only because tight end has a large middle tier after the above-average options, you can pick him and "hope," and then dump him for a decent free agent if he disappoints early.
• Tre Mason, RB, St. Louis Rams -- The Rams already have a ton of running backs, but Auburn's Tre Mason is a tenacious back, in spite of his smallish stature (5-foot-8), and we expect him to become the No. 2 back behind Zac Stacy. He looks like a good handcuff for whoever takes Stacy in the first couple rounds. Don't forget he rushed for 195 yards on 34 carries against the National Champion Florida State Seminoles.
• Johnny Manziel, QB, Cleveland Browns -- Manziel's fantasy stock looked much brighter before Day 2 of the draft, when it was revealed that Josh Gordon could be suspended all season due to a failed drug test. Assuming Gordon is gone for most, if not all, of the regular season, the Browns are going to lean on Manziel's playmaking skills with Greg Little and Nate Burleson as his receivers. Johnny Football was already a late-round flier, but now he's going to have to rush for several touchdowns to make up for the interceptions we expect to see.
• Odell Beckham Jr., WR, New York Giants -- The Giants showed they weren't happy with WR Rueben Randle, and now Beckham should get a chance to make Eli Manning happy as the team's second-best fantasy wide receiver.
• Charles Sims, RB, Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- With Doug Martin coming back from season-ending shoulder surgery, Sims became a very interesting third-round draft pick on Friday. Martin is already working out in mini-camps, and he should be fine for the season (much different than a knee injury). Sims should immediately see work as the team's third-down back, as he's great in the passing game in receiving and blocking. The Bucs had the franchise's first-ever offense-only draft, which started with Evans, TE Austin-Seferian-Jenkins and Smith with their first three picks.
• Storm Johnson, RB, Jacksonville Jaguars -- Another chance for a fantasy opportunist, as Johnson joins the Jaguars, who are without Maurice Jones-Drew now. They did add Toby Gerhart, however, and he'll be the lead back to start the season. Johnson could be a surprise this season.
Possible in-season rookie pickups
• Carlos Hyde, RB, San Francisco 49ers: Did anyone have a more precipitous fantasy drop than Hyde? He went from being the expected top fantasy rookie, as the highest rated running back in the draft, to possibly going undrafted because he joined a 49ers team that still has Frank Gore, Kendall Hunter, Marcus Lattimore and LaMichael James. Both Gore and Hunter are in contract years, and Hyde will have to fight for touches. We expect he'll see touches near the goal line, but the takeaways here are that the fantasy value of both Gore and Hyde took a considerable hit compared to this time last week.
• Best of the rest: Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TE, Tampa Bay; Marqise Lee, WR, Jacksonville; Allen Robinson, WR, Jacksonville; Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Minnesota; Devonta Freeman, RB, Atlanta; Derek Carr, QB, Oakland; Blake Bortles, QB, Jacksonville; Davante Adams, WR, Green Bay; Cody Latimer, WR, Denver; Jerick McKinnon, RB, Minnesota; Ka'Deem Carey, RB, Chicago.
Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/fantasy/news/20140512/bishop-sankey-sammy-watkins-2014-nfl-draft-fantasy-football-impact/#ixzz31XrQ6cxX
With the NFL draft all said and done, fantasy football owners now have the next three months (give or take) to speculate on the potential value of the players drafted into the NFL. We already took a reactionary look at the fantasy value of the offensive skill players taken in the first round. Now that the entire draft is finished and the players have been introduced to their respective coaches and fans, we have a much clearer picture of their fantasy value. Correct that -- the "perceived" fantasy value. Going forward, you can rest assured knowing that these values will rise and fall like a fantasy wave as mini-camp and training camp news starts hitting.
BURKE, FARRAR: Grading the draft of every NFL team
Below, we analyze the newest members of the NFL based on where they might be drafted in a fantasy football draft this fall.
Possible early round pick (Rounds 1-5)
• Bishop Sankey, RB, Tennessee Titans -- A quick look back to last year's average draft positions shows that there were very few rookies taken in the first five rounds of fantasy drafts. The only ones taken among the top 60 picks in standard-scoring leagues were Eddie Lacy (No. 29 in a 12-team league), Giovani Bernard (No. 54) and Montee Ball (No. 65), according to fantasyfootballcalculator.com.
Sankey was not only the first running back taken (at No. 54, no less), but also the only tailback going to a situation where he'll likely end up with the lion's share of the carries. That alone makes him a top-30 running back going forward. Even then, he's not someone on which to burn a third-round pick. If you draft RB-WR-WR or RB-WR-QB with your first three picks, he's a decent option as an RB2, assuming he takes the starting gig from Shonn Greene.
FARRAR: Bishop Sankey becomes the first running back selected in 2014 NFL draft
Possible mid-round picks (Rounds 6-12)
There are first-year players that have a ton of talent, but are either being blocked by veterans, are in interesting situations about which we need more information or they play a deep fantasy position. Last year, there were six rookies whose ADP fell between rounds six and 12 in 12-team, standard-scoring formats -- Kenbrell Thompkins (No. 87), LeVeon Bell (No. 81), Tavon Austin (No. 95), DeAndre Hopkins (No. 118), Cordarelle Patterson (No. 139) and Christine Michael (No. 140).
• Sammy Watkins, WR, Buffalo Bills -- Watkins might have the best potential to become a Dez Bryant-type fantasy wide receiver, but he needs E.J. Manuel to develop quickly after a very shaky first season. The Bills sent Stevie Johnson to the 49ers last weekend, so Watkins will have to learn from Mike Williams and Robert Woods. Luckily, the Bills have some strong offensive weapons, and he won't take sole responsibility in the early going.
• Mike Evans, WR, Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- Evans will also likely be picked up among the top 40 wide receivers on Draft Day, based mostly on potential. He's in a Hopkins-like situation from last season, joining a team with a shaky quarterback situation and a very good WR1 in Vincent Jackson on the other side. He also plays in what should be a relatively conservative offense under new head coach Lovie Smith.
• Brandin Cooks, WR, New Orleans Saints -- The Saints added one of the best offensive weapons in the draft, and they plan to use him all over, including as a kick returner. He'll pick up where Darren Sproles left off, and we can expect Drew Brees to utilize him frequently, possibly even taking targets away from Kenny Stills. Consider him a bigger Tavon Austin, and bump the Saints' already good DST up a couple spots in your rankings.
• Lache Seastrunk, RB, Washington Redskins -- Redskins' new head coach Jay Gruden used both BenJarvus Green-Ellis and Bernard last season, so a combination of Alfred Morris and Seastrunk makes a lot of sense. Unfortunately, Seastrunk playing in Washington hurts Morris' fantasy value more than it helps Seastrunk's.
• Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Carolina Panthers -- Benjamin's one of my favorite players for dynasty leagues because of his size and ability to go up and beat everyone for the football. Unfortunately he's going to be asked to do more than he's ready to in his first season, since he's going to the weakest wide-receiver unit in the NFL. Think of Cordarrelle Patterson's unpolished rookie season -- but with a real quarterback.
• Jordan Matthews, WR, Philadelphia Eagles -- Matthews led the SEC with 1,477 receiving yards on 112 catches at Vanderbilt, which is 45 more catches than second-place Jarvis Landry. Sure, it's a product of the system he was in at Vanderbilt, but the point is he has good hands and he gets open. In Philadelphia, he'll be joining Chip Kelly's equally quirky system, likely working out of the slot that Jason Avant occupied. "The one thing he does is catch the ball in traffic," Kelly told the Philadelphia Inquirer. "He made an unbelievable amount of contested catches. He has such a wing span and will to go up and get it." With Jeremy Maclin still coming back from injury, and Riley Cooper still trying to establish himself as a go-to receiver, Matthews has a great opportunity here.
Possible late-round picks (Rounds 13-16)
Many times, owners will take a shot on a rookie in the late rounds because we don't know what might happen. Last season, WRs Aaron Dobson and Markus Wheaton were among the rookies drafted in the final rounds of most drafts.
• Terrance West, RB, Cleveland Browns -- I had hoped the Browns would take Charles Sims here, as the perfect match in the backfield with Ben Tate. But West looks like a very good handcuff for Ben Tate's owners, considering the free-agent signee's injury history. West is a thick (225 pounds, 5-foot-9), fast running back who played at a small football school (Towson). He set FCS records in rushing yards (2,509) and touchdowns (41) last season.
• Jeremy Hill, RB, Cincinnati Bengals -- The Bengals took Hill as the second-highest drafted running back after Sankey, despite many higher rated tailbacks on the board. This should be the kiss of death for Green-Ellis, and Hill will serve as Bernard's backup. We also expect the Bengals to lean more on their running game with Gruden gone.
• Andre Williams, RB, New York Giants -- The Giants signed Rashad Jennings this season, and they have the most-hated man in fantasy football (David Wilson), now that Mike Shanahan is no longer in the NFL. Williams could battle Jennings for the top spot, although he has questionable hands at best.
• Eric Ebron, TE, Detroit Tigers -- If the tight end position wasn't so deep, Ebron would likely be a much higher draft pick. He'll eventually become Matthew Stafford's third-favorite receiving option, after Calvin Johnson and Reggie Bush. In the early going, however, he'll likely struggle -- outside of some red-zone chances. He will be drafted here only because tight end has a large middle tier after the above-average options, you can pick him and "hope," and then dump him for a decent free agent if he disappoints early.
• Tre Mason, RB, St. Louis Rams -- The Rams already have a ton of running backs, but Auburn's Tre Mason is a tenacious back, in spite of his smallish stature (5-foot-8), and we expect him to become the No. 2 back behind Zac Stacy. He looks like a good handcuff for whoever takes Stacy in the first couple rounds. Don't forget he rushed for 195 yards on 34 carries against the National Champion Florida State Seminoles.
• Johnny Manziel, QB, Cleveland Browns -- Manziel's fantasy stock looked much brighter before Day 2 of the draft, when it was revealed that Josh Gordon could be suspended all season due to a failed drug test. Assuming Gordon is gone for most, if not all, of the regular season, the Browns are going to lean on Manziel's playmaking skills with Greg Little and Nate Burleson as his receivers. Johnny Football was already a late-round flier, but now he's going to have to rush for several touchdowns to make up for the interceptions we expect to see.
• Odell Beckham Jr., WR, New York Giants -- The Giants showed they weren't happy with WR Rueben Randle, and now Beckham should get a chance to make Eli Manning happy as the team's second-best fantasy wide receiver.
• Charles Sims, RB, Tampa Bay Buccaneers -- With Doug Martin coming back from season-ending shoulder surgery, Sims became a very interesting third-round draft pick on Friday. Martin is already working out in mini-camps, and he should be fine for the season (much different than a knee injury). Sims should immediately see work as the team's third-down back, as he's great in the passing game in receiving and blocking. The Bucs had the franchise's first-ever offense-only draft, which started with Evans, TE Austin-Seferian-Jenkins and Smith with their first three picks.
• Storm Johnson, RB, Jacksonville Jaguars -- Another chance for a fantasy opportunist, as Johnson joins the Jaguars, who are without Maurice Jones-Drew now. They did add Toby Gerhart, however, and he'll be the lead back to start the season. Johnson could be a surprise this season.
Possible in-season rookie pickups
• Carlos Hyde, RB, San Francisco 49ers: Did anyone have a more precipitous fantasy drop than Hyde? He went from being the expected top fantasy rookie, as the highest rated running back in the draft, to possibly going undrafted because he joined a 49ers team that still has Frank Gore, Kendall Hunter, Marcus Lattimore and LaMichael James. Both Gore and Hunter are in contract years, and Hyde will have to fight for touches. We expect he'll see touches near the goal line, but the takeaways here are that the fantasy value of both Gore and Hyde took a considerable hit compared to this time last week.
• Best of the rest: Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TE, Tampa Bay; Marqise Lee, WR, Jacksonville; Allen Robinson, WR, Jacksonville; Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Minnesota; Devonta Freeman, RB, Atlanta; Derek Carr, QB, Oakland; Blake Bortles, QB, Jacksonville; Davante Adams, WR, Green Bay; Cody Latimer, WR, Denver; Jerick McKinnon, RB, Minnesota; Ka'Deem Carey, RB, Chicago.
Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/fantasy/news/20140512/bishop-sankey-sammy-watkins-2014-nfl-draft-fantasy-football-impact/#ixzz31XrQ6cxX
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Eddy Lacy led lap 1.With Eddie Lacy winning ROY?In fairness there was a pretty hefty debate last year regarding Gio's draft position and whether than meant that he was the best....We all know how that turned out
jurb26
Footballguy
Seeing Cinci drafted Hill, I'd say Lacy is leading the turn to lap 2 as well.Eddy Lacy led lap 1.With Eddie Lacy winning ROY?In fairness there was a pretty hefty debate last year regarding Gio's draft position and whether than meant that he was the best....
We all know how that turned out
cloppbeast
Footballguy
Maybe Lacy crashes.Seeing Cinci drafted Hill, I'd say Lacy is leading the turn to lap 2 as well.Eddy Lacy led lap 1.With Eddie Lacy winning ROY?In fairness there was a pretty hefty debate last year regarding Gio's draft position and whether than meant that he was the best....
We all know how that turned out
Billy Ball Thorton
Footballguy
I love Sankey. IMO better than any RB last year and easily the best this year. Clearly the Titans felt he was the best RB as well. His situation is as good as it comes for a Rookie RB. Great offensive line a coach that loves to use backs in the passing game and Shonn Greene being the other back. Also has demonstrated he can handle a heavy workload.
I am really encouraged about his ppr fantasy prospect.
I am really encouraged about his ppr fantasy prospect.
werdnoynek
Footballguy
, I bet there's 6 RB's last season who will end up having better career's than Sankey.Lacy, Gio, Bell, Michael, Ball, and Stacy... Ellington to boot.
werdnoynek
Footballguy
werdnoynek
Footballguy
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Well it would be a sucker's bet for him, just based on odds - he would need to rely on 5 guys v. 1 to stay healthy and productive.I think we can understand the point he was making though, without forcing him to "put his money where his mouth is".
I'd agree with most on the list - but would prefer Sankey to Stacy and Ellington for sure. I'd favor the rest, but it's no slam dunk.
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jurb26
Footballguy
Sankey tops this list of rookie top 20.
http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap2000000349705/top-20-fantasy-rookies
http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap2000000349705/top-20-fantasy-rookies
I'm displeased with their draft. I agree there was very little pressing needs filled.
They should have traded Roos. Cook, Britt, CJ, and their bookend tackles were players other teams wanted at some point. Their GM waits too long. I know a lot of fans have this gripe with their franchise, but I can't recall the Titans trading a good player in the last so many years. Cook and Britt-few years ago they could have cut bait. The Tackles became older and who didn't see that coming?
Stewart wasn't re-signed because he's too expensive, but Oher is signed for nearly the same amount of $. They draft this T but already gave Roos an extension.
It feels like Whisenhunt is turning over the roster and trying to be slow about it. Just do it and get something in return. It'll take forever this way.
Sankey fills a need and I was glad they said they were going to draft a RB and did so.
I'm very uncomfortable with Derrick Morgan playing OLB and am afraid this is another-why didn't you just trade him and get something in return. A former high pick that's done pretty well, they could have received something. Watch their OLB experiment steal all his trade value.
Greene gets surgery around the time of the draft...wow did they sign a wounded player, he's always hurt.
I'm not worried about their WRs. I would love it if Mariani actually plays WR. He's so easy to root for.
Every team's fans have this post draft excitement about a new season's potential. I'm annoyed their draft didn't give fans that. Sankey better be good.
Milkman
Footballguy
I think he's right in the middle of that list. He's probably a slight favorite against Michael because Michaels is getting a late start. Love Michael btw. He's a dog against Gio, Lacy, Bell. Ball Sankey are probably real close.
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werdnoynek
Footballguy
Yeah, definitely a figure of speech. I wasn't intending on betting anything... I wouldn't be shocked if the 3 or 4 of the guys I named ended up having a better rookie season than Sankey does this season though. Again, not betting anything... just a hunch.
Quite possibly the worst rookie rankings i've ever seen honestly. Cooks/Matthews behind Sims/Hill...gimme a break
jurb26
Footballguy
Manziel at 3 with his best weapon being out for a potential 4 to 16 games is pretty ridiculous as well.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
Those are re-draft rankings for rookies - he mentions those as the best bet for 2014 production.
in that light, they make more sense.
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jurb26
Footballguy
Yeah, I'm aware of that.
Mel Kiper calls Bishop Sankey an early-impact rookie
By Jimmy Morris @jmorrisMCM on May 13 2014
The praise for Titans second-round draft pick Bishop Sankey continues.
Mel Kiper hasn't retread with Dano to the shadows just yet. Today he has an article out about draft picks that he expects to have an early impact. Bishop Sankey is on that list. Here is what Kiper had to say about him:
Last year Shonn Greene carried the ball just 154 times for a 3.8-yard average. Sankey is clearly the more explosive option in Tennessee, and is good as a pass-catcher out of the backfield (67 receptions at Washington). The Titans don't consider a RB in this range of the draft unless he's the immediate future.
As I said before, Sankey is the perfect compliment to Greene.
Ken Whisenhunt said on the radio yesterday that Sankey is the rare back who can play on all 3 downs. That means he is going to be on the field a lot in 2014. I can't wait to see it!
By Jimmy Morris @jmorrisMCM on May 13 2014
The praise for Titans second-round draft pick Bishop Sankey continues.
Mel Kiper hasn't retread with Dano to the shadows just yet. Today he has an article out about draft picks that he expects to have an early impact. Bishop Sankey is on that list. Here is what Kiper had to say about him:
Last year Shonn Greene carried the ball just 154 times for a 3.8-yard average. Sankey is clearly the more explosive option in Tennessee, and is good as a pass-catcher out of the backfield (67 receptions at Washington). The Titans don't consider a RB in this range of the draft unless he's the immediate future.
As I said before, Sankey is the perfect compliment to Greene.
Ken Whisenhunt said on the radio yesterday that Sankey is the rare back who can play on all 3 downs. That means he is going to be on the field a lot in 2014. I can't wait to see it!
cstu
Footballguy
I understand why people don't care for Sankey - he's not a flashy player. He's a jack-of-all-trades, master-of-none type RB.
However, he does stand out as having very few flaws - it would be great if he was a little more explosive and had stronger legs to not get tripped up by arm tackles, but he's good to very good at everything. He's got a frame (5'9.5") that's big enough to gain 10 lbs. to his lower body and help him break tackles. Still only 21 so he can get better.
His receiving ability is one of his key qualities and he appears to be a natural at catching the ball and knowing where to be so the QB can dump the ball off to him. That's no small thing in PPR leagues.
The other strength he has is durability. He was 10th in total plays from scrimmage in the entire NCAA in 2012 and was 2nd last year.
He has the best situation of any back in the league and his primary competition is a 29 yo non-receiving back who has had two knee surgeries on the same knee in the past year.
However, he does stand out as having very few flaws - it would be great if he was a little more explosive and had stronger legs to not get tripped up by arm tackles, but he's good to very good at everything. He's got a frame (5'9.5") that's big enough to gain 10 lbs. to his lower body and help him break tackles. Still only 21 so he can get better.
His receiving ability is one of his key qualities and he appears to be a natural at catching the ball and knowing where to be so the QB can dump the ball off to him. That's no small thing in PPR leagues.
The other strength he has is durability. He was 10th in total plays from scrimmage in the entire NCAA in 2012 and was 2nd last year.
He has the best situation of any back in the league and his primary competition is a 29 yo non-receiving back who has had two knee surgeries on the same knee in the past year.
Bishop Sankey in good position for big year for Titans
By Bryan Fischer
College Football 24/7 writer
By Bryan Fischer
College Football 24/7 writer
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Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
THEN WHY WAS HE THE FIRST RUNNING BACK DRAFTED!!!!!!Faust said:
Anyone have any grades on Greg Cosell's analysis ability?
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KellysHeroes
Footballguy
the good thing about Sankey is that unless he gets hurt or completely bombs he'll be worth just about the same next yr, Hes getting the starting gig.
Bamac
Footballguy
Yes. Yes he did.
(at 1:28) a little worrisome that Sankey only visited one team...right? Or am I over-reading that one
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