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***Official Brewers vs Phillies NLDS thread*** (1 Viewer)

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Well I sure liked what I saw out of Gallardo. None of those runs were earned, and that blown sacrifice/double play bunt certainly wasn't his fault. He gave up a few walks, but it's not like he was wild out there; most of those pitches outside of the zone were still decent. Of course I would've liked him to stay in there longer, and his hitting isn't a concern as he had the best hit ball of the Brewers' first four innings, but I do trust most of the Brewers' bullpen.

 
snorlax said:
Well I sure liked what I saw out of Gallardo. None of those runs were earned, and that blown sacrifice/double play bunt certainly wasn't his fault. He gave up a few walks, but it's not like he was wild out there; most of those pitches outside of the zone were still decent. Of course I would've liked him to stay in there longer, and his hitting isn't a concern as he had the best hit ball of the Brewers' first four innings, but I do trust most of the Brewers' bullpen.
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The Brewers bullpen is crap, one of if not the worst of any playoff team. I would consider 5 walks in 4 innings to be more than "a few".
 
awesomeness said:
snorlax said:
Well I sure liked what I saw out of Gallardo. None of those runs were earned, and that blown sacrifice/double play bunt certainly wasn't his fault. He gave up a few walks, but it's not like he was wild out there; most of those pitches outside of the zone were still decent. Of course I would've liked him to stay in there longer, and his hitting isn't a concern as he had the best hit ball of the Brewers' first four innings, but I do trust most of the Brewers' bullpen.
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The Brewers bullpen is crap, one of if not the worst of any playoff team. I would consider 5 walks in 4 innings to be more than "a few".
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Your negativity and condenscension do not affect my opinion. I like having guys like Villanueva, McClung, and Parra in long relief, and they proved their worth this afternoon with 4 scoreless innings. I don't feel as good about the Gagne/Torres combination to close out the games, but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.I'm glad the Brewers were able to make this exciting in the 9th. Hopefully their offense carries a little momentum from the last inning and is able to put something together in the next game before it's already too late.
 
BoulderBob said:
Without Sheets, the Crew just doesn't have much of a chance...too bad. Still like the future of this team...
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I'm not sure losing Sheets is the problem here. They have Sabathia in 2 of the next 4 games, and then they would just have to win one more at home. The thing that will really hold them back is lack of run production.
 
Hammered Finz said:
PHEW... Lidge has been making it interesting way too often lately.. PHILS WIN!!! :)
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FWIW, I actually thought Manuel's post game quotes about not bringing Hamels back out at 102 pitches were decent. The lineup was all righties and he had a heavy workload this year (This means he's more then likely to throw on Sunday in a possible game 4). He would rather bring Lidge in to start an inning then in the middle of an inning (should Hamels have let a guy or two on). Made sense, although 35 pitches is the suck for Lidge.still, first playoff win in 15 years!
 
Just got back...the crowd would have hung Manuel from the Liberty Bell if Lidge blew that game. I thought that the Phils got some good wood on the Brewers starter (that unfortunately went right to the defense) but were ultimately helped by poor defense. Hamels was just dealing. It's a nice win.....but not a comforting one....Lidge didn't look great and the offense struggled more than I'd like to see. Still....good teams win bad games like this. But I hope to see more of that team that dominated down the stretch. Tomorrow is going to be a problem....but who knows...maybe CC has hit the wall.

 
Man, what a game.

The Crew played tight early but as the game went on hitters started working the count more and offering at better pitches (for the Brewers at least). Considering the Phillies got zero earned runs it's tough to expect much more from Gallardo and the bullpen. Sometimes a loss can be debilitating but, if anything, the Brewers should be able to look at this game and really feel that they can win this series. Philly took care of business today - Cole Hamels was money. Hopefully CC can have that same type of performance tomorrow and bring the series back to Milwaukee tied 1-1.

 
BoulderBob said:
Without Sheets, the Crew just doesn't have much of a chance...too bad. Still like the future of this team...
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With Sheets the Brewers don't have much of a chance. The guy just disappears when you need him. I like the Brewers chances much more without him.
 
Went to the game. My first playoff game for any sport and Phillies first win in 15 years. Great time but Philadelphia proved once again why it has some of the worse baseball fans in MLB. The number of fans close to the field that would leave their seats when it began to drizzle was shameful.

Front runners? Maybe not. Afraid of water? I guess so

 
RedRaiders said:
Hammered Finz said:
PHEW... Lidge has been making it interesting way too often lately..

PHILS WIN!!! :shrug:
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FWIW, I actually thought Manuel's post game quotes about not bringing Hamels back out at 102 pitches were decent. The lineup was all righties and he had a heavy workload this year (This means he's more then likely to throw on Sunday in a possible game 4). He would rather bring Lidge in to start an inning then in the middle of an inning (should Hamels have let a guy or two on). Made sense, although 35 pitches is the suck for Lidge.still, first playoff win in 15 years!
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Check out Hamels split stats lefties and righties...G GS W L SV CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP BAA

vs. Left 33 0 0 0 0 0 0 53.0 55 - - 12 13 51 - 1.28 .262

vs. Right 33 0 0 0 0 0 0 174.1 138 - - 16 40 145 - 1.02 .215

Fielder is the guy you worry about with Hamels. Prince has hurt him a few times but he was due up 4th. My feeling is you give the starter 1 baserunner to get on before you pull him. But thank god Lidge didn't blow it, because having to listen to the city complain over a manager going with a closer who was 41 of 41 on the year would drive me insane. Listening to the radio after the game, they were talking about the move alot. You would have thought the Phillies lost if you didn't know any better. 1st win in 15 years Philadelphia, enjoy it for godsake.

 
snorlax said:
awesomeness said:
snorlax said:
Well I sure liked what I saw out of Gallardo. None of those runs were earned, and that blown sacrifice/double play bunt certainly wasn't his fault. He gave up a few walks, but it's not like he was wild out there; most of those pitches outside of the zone were still decent. Of course I would've liked him to stay in there longer, and his hitting isn't a concern as he had the best hit ball of the Brewers' first four innings, but I do trust most of the Brewers' bullpen.
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The Brewers bullpen is crap, one of if not the worst of any playoff team. I would consider 5 walks in 4 innings to be more than "a few".
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Your negativity and condenscension do not affect my opinion. I like having guys like Villanueva, McClung, and Parra in long relief, and they proved their worth this afternoon with 4 scoreless innings. I don't feel as good about the Gagne/Torres combination to close out the games, but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it.I'm glad the Brewers were able to make this exciting in the 9th. Hopefully their offense carries a little momentum from the last inning and is able to put something together in the next game before it's already too late.
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I'm a Canadian who likes to see Canadian baseball players succeed in the Majors, but Eric Gagne should not touch the mound of a AA game. Any bullpen that includes and uses Eric Gagne is a very bad bullpen.
 
crewmember said:
Went to the game. My first playoff game for any sport and Phillies first win in 15 years. Great time but Philadelphia proved once again why it has some of the worse baseball fans in MLB. The number of fans close to the field that would leave their seats when it began to drizzle was shameful. Front runners? Maybe not. Afraid of water? I guess so
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That ticked me off to no end. I had SRO and was behind home plate and couldn't believe the empty seats in front of me. I would have sat out there during the last hurricane to watch the Phils play.
 
Thunderlips said:
crewmember said:
Went to the game. My first playoff game for any sport and Phillies first win in 15 years. Great time but Philadelphia proved once again why it has some of the worse baseball fans in MLB. The number of fans close to the field that would leave their seats when it began to drizzle was shameful. Front runners? Maybe not. Afraid of water? I guess so
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That ticked me off to no end. I had SRO and was behind home plate and couldn't believe the empty seats in front of me. I would have sat out there during the last hurricane to watch the Phils play.
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:blackdot: I would have given my life for those seats that people were leaving. Just wait till it's 40 or 50 degrees and it's raining. If they couldn't take it yesterday, I'd hate to see them in the World Series.
 
I'm confused as to why Mike Cameron is leading off.....Can someone please explain this to me? Why not Durham or Hardy? You can stick Cameron's .224 BA in the 7th hole.

 
All I know is that C.C. Sabathia has allowed 17 earned runs in 14 innings in his last three postseason starts. Some pitchers just aren't as good in October as they are in the regular season. :lmao:

 
Sweetcan said:
I'm confused as to why Mike Cameron is leading off.....Can someone please explain this to me? Why not Durham or Hardy? You can stick Cameron's .224 BA in the 7th hole.
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The Brewers simply don't have a good leadoff hitter on their roster right now. It may really be their biggest weakness.
 
Brett Meyers just destroyed Sabathia. That first at-bat just killed him. I don't know if he finally hit the wall or the fans got to him....but if the Phils win the series... that will be seen as the scale tipper.

 
How funny was that first at bat for Myers. The fans were hilarous cheering so hard for a foul ball. Then the joke turned serious and Myers turned his hole into a full count. He walks and it becomes a 5 run inning and the reason they won.

Shane Victorino comes up big again(almost had winning rbi in game 3 vs rockies), but the MVP for the phillies in this series may still be the wind. The Good Lord wants the Phillies to win.

 
Thunderlips said:
Brett Meyers just destroyed Sabathia. That first at-bat just killed him. I don't know if he finally hit the wall or the fans got to him....but if the Phils win the series... that will be seen as the scale tipper.
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I think it was a little of both, but a bit more the former than the latter. He just looked awful out there compared to his last, oh say, 3 months. Who knows, it might be an "October" curse for him :thumbdown: As to Cameron leading off.....well it was Weeks, but we all know you can't spell Weeks without 2 E's and a K. Hardy? No, when hes good, hes at best a 2-hitter. Hart? Couldn't hit a softball pitch right now. Durham I could see....hell they had Counsell leading off a few times this year. Their options kind of end there.

This is just a team that can't hide their weakness anymore....and it sure as hell aint the bullpen. There's a reason they played so ####ty in September but "so well" in the last week (v the Pirates and the Cubs AAA Iowa).

I'll be there on Saturday to cheer on our last hope..Dave Bush :shudder: Hope we can come back and make it interesting. Otherwise, congrats Philly, its obvious you got the better team. Glllll

 
strykerpks said:
Thunderlips said:
Brett Meyers just destroyed Sabathia. That first at-bat just killed him. I don't know if he finally hit the wall or the fans got to him....but if the Phils win the series... that will be seen as the scale tipper.
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I think it was a little of both, but a bit more the former than the latter. He just looked awful out there compared to his last, oh say, 3 months. Who knows, it might be an "October" curse for him :) As to Cameron leading off.....well it was Weeks, but we all know you can't spell Weeks without 2 E's and a K. Hardy? No, when hes good, hes at best a 2-hitter. Hart? Couldn't hit a softball pitch right now. Durham I could see....hell they had Counsell leading off a few times this year. Their options kind of end there.

This is just a team that can't hide their weakness anymore....and it sure as hell aint the bullpen. There's a reason they played so ####ty in September but "so well" in the last week (v the Pirates and the Cubs AAA Iowa).

I'll be there on Saturday to cheer on our last hope..Dave Bush :shudder: Hope we can come back and make it interesting. Otherwise, congrats Philly, its obvious you got the better team. Glllll
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Have fun at the game. It still takes three wins to win this series and the Brewers can still take this series. Other than two very bad innings, they have played well. If Hart and the rest of the offense can get it going the Brewers will be fine.
 
deep vacuum said:
strykerpks said:
Thunderlips said:
Brett Meyers just destroyed Sabathia. That first at-bat just killed him. I don't know if he finally hit the wall or the fans got to him....but if the Phils win the series... that will be seen as the scale tipper.
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I think it was a little of both, but a bit more the former than the latter. He just looked awful out there compared to his last, oh say, 3 months. Who knows, it might be an "October" curse for him :coffee: As to Cameron leading off.....well it was Weeks, but we all know you can't spell Weeks without 2 E's and a K. Hardy? No, when hes good, hes at best a 2-hitter. Hart? Couldn't hit a softball pitch right now. Durham I could see....hell they had Counsell leading off a few times this year. Their options kind of end there.

This is just a team that can't hide their weakness anymore....and it sure as hell aint the bullpen. There's a reason they played so ####ty in September but "so well" in the last week (v the Pirates and the Cubs AAA Iowa).

I'll be there on Saturday to cheer on our last hope..Dave Bush :shudder: Hope we can come back and make it interesting. Otherwise, congrats Philly, its obvious you got the better team. Glllll
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Have fun at the game. It still takes three wins to win this series and the Brewers can still take this series. Other than two very bad innings, they have played well. If Hart and the rest of the offense can get it going the Brewers will be fine.
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Thats funny.
 
Doctor Detroit said:
I wish Sheets was starting tomorrow, I like watching both these teams and would have preferred a 5 game set.
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As a life-long Brewer fan, as much as I love Ben Sheets and appreciate all he's done here, I'm not the slightest bit surprised that he is injured when we need him the most. It would actually be kind of strange to see him playing a big role in crunch time for the Brewers.
 
deep vacuum said:
strykerpks said:
Thunderlips said:
Brett Meyers just destroyed Sabathia. That first at-bat just killed him. I don't know if he finally hit the wall or the fans got to him....but if the Phils win the series... that will be seen as the scale tipper.
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I think it was a little of both, but a bit more the former than the latter. He just looked awful out there compared to his last, oh say, 3 months. Who knows, it might be an "October" curse for him :rolleyes: As to Cameron leading off.....well it was Weeks, but we all know you can't spell Weeks without 2 E's and a K. Hardy? No, when hes good, hes at best a 2-hitter. Hart? Couldn't hit a softball pitch right now. Durham I could see....hell they had Counsell leading off a few times this year. Their options kind of end there.

This is just a team that can't hide their weakness anymore....and it sure as hell aint the bullpen. There's a reason they played so ####ty in September but "so well" in the last week (v the Pirates and the Cubs AAA Iowa).

I'll be there on Saturday to cheer on our last hope..Dave Bush :shudder: Hope we can come back and make it interesting. Otherwise, congrats Philly, its obvious you got the better team. Glllll
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Have fun at the game. It still takes three wins to win this series and the Brewers can still take this series. Other than two very bad innings, they have played well. If Hart and the rest of the offense can get it going the Brewers will be fine.
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The Phils left 10 guys on base in game 2 and were smoking the ball - unfortunately right into some outs. That game could have been a whole lot uglier. At least you're optimistic, can't fault that.
 
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