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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (11 Viewers)

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DallasDMac said:
How about 10 dozen? Bet they last the same month. Yet people seem to think they need 10 dozen for some reason.
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Maybe they are shopping for their elderly/high risk people they know. Again, you can't judge and assume everyone is nuts. There are a lot of good people out there who are offering to help the high risk population. I just told my 85 yo neighbor who lives alone to let me know if she needs anything. If I knew more people I would let them know I'm willing to help.

 
mr roboto said:
My mom is 68. Diabetic and COPD. She’s self quarantine since Monday. She’s going nuts being alone but understands it’s important. 
 

Could she come and visit my family if none of us are symptomatic?
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I wouldn’t recommend unless both have been quarantined for 14 days. Unfortunately, from what I have read if she gets it she is done. 
 

ETA - I may be taking this more serious then most. 

 
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DallasDMac said:
None of these posts answer the question... why? Why are people hoarding eggs? Is COVID expected to ravage the US chicken population?
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My theory: it has nothing to do with eggs themselves.  I don't think most people are hoarding eggs, but just buying what they think they'll need over the next 2-4 weeks, and a lot of people are not going to want to go out in public, so they are buying what they need now.  And since eggs are a common staple for most people, it has a high likelihood of running out.  This goes for other things like milk and bread.  

So this toilet paper thing makes total sense to me.  Think about all of the people who would normally go to the store to do their family shopping in the next two weeks.  Maybe 60-70% are going to get eggs.  I would imagine 95% milk.  But 100% toilet paper.  Toilet paper is one of those things that everyone needs. 

This also explains why milk and bread get bought up before a big storm.  All the people who were planning on going to the store over the next 2-4 days who were going to get milk suddenly all go the same day in case they can't get to the store.  

 
kodycutter said:
Were you able to get any eggs?
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Thanks to irrational, self-absorbed doosh-nozzles that are artificially creating unnecessary shortages by hoarding things like eggs, no. Which is kind of the entire point. Fortunately eggs aren't even remotely a necessity so it's no big deal, other than confirming my opinion that, in general, people suck.

 
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AAABatteries said:
My son works at Publix and gave us the heads up - said it’s been a madhouse the last two days.

And while on the topic - I’m not sure what to do - he and my second oldest both work part time while in HS doing retail.  I’m completely torn on whether to have them ask off or not during the time school is out.  Anybody else dealing with that or have suggestions?
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:hifive:  My daughter works there too. I’m not going to have her ask to be off. I have stressed the importance of taking hygiene precautions, but since she is young and healthy, I’m going to let her work. She’s not allowed to visit her grandparents though.

 
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shuke said:
My theory: it has nothing to do with eggs themselves. 
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It doesn't. I posted an article earlier where a psychologist was explaining the fact that people feel a need to "do something" in the absence of being able to do anything substantial.  It's a substitution to give them a feeling of control when, in fact, they have none.

 
DallasDMac said:
Thanks to irrational, self-absorbed doosh-nozzles that are artificially creating unnecessary shortages by hoarding things like eggs, no. Which is kind of the entire point. Fortunately eggs aren't even remotely a necessity so it's no big deal, other than confirming my opinion that, in general, people suck.
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You seem angry. Take a deep breath. Eat fewer eggs.
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top dog said:
My 85 year old father (heart condition, cancer survivor) went to a flea market today to "see some friends".   :wall:
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He's 85, survived cancer, and has a heart condition. He's gonna do whatever he wants.  

I just saw my father today for the second time in 5 years. He's 78, and completely unconcerned about this. He says if he gets it and dies, so be it. But he's still going to the casino. 

 
total NYC confirmed coronavirus cases: 

  • 3/5 - 2 
  • 3/6 - 5
  • 3/7 - 11
  • 3/8 - 12
  • 3/9 - 19
  • 3/10 - 36
  • 3/11 - 52
  • 3/12 - 95
  • 3/13 - 154
  • 3/14 - 213
 
AAABatteries said:
I feel for most of you - but for me this couldn’t have hit at a better time.  We bought a new house yesterday, been packing and will finish packing in the next week and then move 21st-28th.  I have a million things to do and this is helping me get focused and finish with plenty of time left.
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Kind of same here. Closed yesterday and began moving in. Bad side is wife is a nurse and can't work from home and several times a day I need to go get #### I had no idea I'd need (like dryer connector  and LP to natural gas converter), At least Home Depot is uncrowded enough to practice social distancing and self checkout.

 
My comic relief during all of this is watching the animated people who sign the speeches of government officials.   Some of them are comedy gold.

 
shuke said:
My shopping trips this week:

Saturday: Costco, Kroger
Tuesday: Costco
Thursday: Costco, Kroger
Friday: Costco, Meijer

I am ####ing exhausted and don't want to go into a store for another 3 months.
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So despite saying this, I went to Kroger today at noon.  We have planned out meals but I was unable to find some fresh vegetables and meat. 

Place was pretty well stocked.  Outside of TP, I should have just waited to do all my shopping today.

 
jwb said:
He's 85, survived cancer, and has a heart condition. He's gonna do whatever he wants.  

I just saw my father today for the second time in 5 years. He's 78, and completely unconcerned about this. He says if he gets it and dies, so be it. But he's still going to the casino. 
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Thankfully my 81 yo dad is now going to stay in. It took telling him if he gets it, who's going to help him? He's home alone.

 
DallasDMac said:
It's funny you and msommer think it's about the eggs rather than the general human condition being displayed all across the country.
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I completely get why you logically think people shouldn't stock up on too much stuff.

BTW I didn't call it hoarding because hoarding is getting an unreasonable amount of stuff - stocking up is getting 2 to 4 weeks worth of something - which our government (finally) recommended.

The thing is, it's intrinsic human nature to want to provide survival basics for your family and yourself, and if food is at risk, that intrinsic nature is always going to win out.

I agree with your logic, but it's folly to fight human nature.

 
DallasDMac said:
Thanks to irrational, self-absorbed doosh-nozzles that are artificially creating unnecessary shortages by hoarding things like eggs, no. Which is kind of the entire point. Fortunately eggs aren't even remotely a necessity so it's no big deal, other than confirming my opinion that, in general, people suck.
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It shows that the desire to take more from society than you really need isn't limited to the rich. 

 
Neighbor invited me to his kids bday today. Not going because it’s a buncha people I don’t know and I have a son at risk. Figured he would have cancelled but a buncha grandparents and kids arrived. Definitely glad I didn’t go sounds lame & contagious 

 
bagger said:
Our family who is low risk for this: staying indoors, no social contact, minimizing gatherings.

my wife’s parents: picking up a friend at the airport, going to a hotel, and then going out to dinner.

my parents: going to the gym.

boomers are doing their best to self select themselves out of the population.
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The greatest generation was really ####ty at raising kids with common sense

 
NotSmart said:
I completely get why you logically think people shouldn't stock up on too much stuff.

BTW I didn't call it hoarding because hoarding is getting an unreasonable amount of stuff - stocking up is getting 2 to 4 weeks worth of something - which our government (finally) recommended.

The thing is, it's intrinsic human nature to want to provide survival basics for your family and yourself, and if food is at risk, that intrinsic nature is always going to win out.

I agree with your logic, but it's folly to fight human nature.
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Even in Italy, the grocery stores are still open. There is no reason to think, even if it gets bad here, that one couldn't go to the grocery store for 4 weeks. 

 
gianmarco said:
😥

To make it as simple as possible:

Don't think of it as doing what you can to keep from catching it.

Think of it as you already have it and do whatever you can to keep from spreading it to others.

That simple perspective might help understand our roles in this situation.
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So you are assuming empathy will trump self-preservation? Interesting concept.

 
mr roboto said:
My mom is 68. Diabetic and COPD. She’s self quarantine since Monday. She’s going nuts being alone but understands it’s important. 
 

Could she come and visit my family if none of us are symptomatic?
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my mother ordered my grandmother,  myself, and herself quarantined to her house no visitors. she was a nurse for 30 years, so i can't argue. my sister can bring supplies that's it. to be fair i have the best immune system of the three of us and i  have stage iv cancer. after having a fever of 102.4 last night, i am not arguing any lingering arguments are gone           

 
Politician Spock said:
Even in Italy, the grocery stores are still open. There is no reason to think, even if it gets bad here, that one couldn't go to the grocery store for 4 weeks. 
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With luck, that will be the case - I hope to my core that it remains that way.

But the supply chain for food is lengthy - if any part of it gets significantly disrupted, things get bad quickly.

As a basic example of the issue, there are already people in this thread (rightly) questioning whether they should let their kids keep working at grocery store stocking jobs.

 
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DallasDMac said:
Thanks to irrational, self-absorbed doosh-nozzles that are artificially creating unnecessary shortages by hoarding things like eggs, no. Which is kind of the entire point. Fortunately eggs aren't even remotely a necessity so it's no big deal, other than confirming my opinion that, in general, people suck.
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I buy mine from a farm.  They didn't seem to mind at all. Were very happy about it actually. Really nice people. 

 
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NotSmart said:
With luck, that will be the case - I hope to my core that it remains that way.

But the supply chain for food is lengthy - if any part of it gets significantly disrupted, things get bad quickly.

As a basic example of the issue, there are already people in this thread (rightly) questioning whether they should let their kids keep working at grocery store stocking jobs.
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Even if we go full quarantine, groceries are delivered by government services. The "stocking up" is irrational. If people want to be irrational and go full :tinfoilhat: , that's fine... as long as their behavior doesn't cause problems for other people, which grocery hoarding clearly does. 

 
Politician Spock said:
Even in Italy, the grocery stores are still open. There is no reason to think, even if it gets bad here, that one couldn't go to the grocery store for 4 weeks. 
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Of course. But there may be more limits of what you can buy and reduced store hours. For those who don't want to be out there, it's important to them. 

 
Looks like there could be another cruise ship issue brewing, this one on the Celebrity Summit.  A woman who was on the March 1-7 cruise developed symptoms the day after disembarking and was confirmed positive with the virus.  Now the ship has been denied docking in San Juan, where the passengers were supposed to disembark today, and is instead heading to Florida.  Passengers aren't receiving any info from Celebrity or crew on board and don't know if they'll be quarantined when they arrive.

Also, this dum-dum was showing symptoms for the last five days of a Celebrity Silhouette cruise that ended March 6, flew home, and then got tested (positive). 

 
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Politician Spock said:
Even if we go full quarantine, groceries are delivered by government services. The "stocking up" is irrational. If people want to be irrational and go full :tinfoilhat: , that's fine... as long as their behavior doesn't cause problems for other people, which grocery hoarding clearly does. 
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Your faith in the current government to effectively manage home food deliveries is greater than mine.

Hoarding is wrong.

Buying 4 weeks of groceries is not.

 
Big League Chew said:
Amazon shut down a guy trying to profit off hand sanitizer. He’s sitting on 17000 bottles with nowhere to sell them 
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No shtick I could have bought a bunch on liquidation in December for pennies on the dollar.  I spent $40 and that got me enough antibacterial soap and sanitizer to last for years.  

Been kicking myself for not buying an entire lot. I certainly wouldn't have gouged people but full retail price would have made me rich. 

 
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CurlyNight said:
Of course. But there may be more limits of what you can buy and reduced store hours. For those who don't want to be out there, it's important to them. 
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The only reason to limit what people can buy is to stop people from buying more than they need.

Reducing store hours would increase the number of people in the store any given hour. There is no way in hell they would do that. 

 
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