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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (14 Viewers)
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Footballguy
They are. When someone tests positive they're putting out a warning. It's already happened. That's the whole point. They can't reach all of the individual participants, but they're putting out bulletins through news sources to people that were at the same location.You think they're contact tracing thousands of protestors?
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Footballguy
The DOH says you need to go through your provider. The quote in the previous article said they have to do a better job of messaging providers that they can do testing even for people with mild symptoms. Providers are not authorizing tests for asymptomatic people. Not sure what part of that you don't understand.
Not everyone can get a test. Sorry to burst your bubble. You've been wrong so many times in this thread you should be used to it by now.
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Footballguy
Funny thing is justaflurules is telling me that I'm wrong about not being able to get tested. My ex wife was exposed and got tested and came up negative. Since we share custody, I asked my doctor if I should get tested and he told me I couldn't since she tested negative.
But please, tell me again that everyone can get tested.
But please, tell me again that everyone can get tested.
You need to do a better job of being your own advocate. Goto urgent care, show them the DOH rules. Everyone has to be their own health care advocate.
The Commish
Footballguy
The Commish
Footballguy
This isn't true everywhere. But, during flu season it would be absolutely ridiculous NOT to test for both flu and Covid....like monumentally dumb. Testing will absolutely have to increase because it needs to be standard operating procedure during flu season.
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The Commish
Footballguy
Alabama is another state where if you have the symptoms, you get the test. If you don't have the symptoms, you have to have underlying conditions that make you more vulnerable to get the test. Otherwise, you have to get approval from the state.
The Commish
Footballguy
In Mississippi apparently they are leaving it to the provider to decide...oooof
the moops
Footballguy
yea, here is the exact text - it applies to only people who have participated in or were near a large gathering
Who can receive this testing?
People who have participated in or were nearby any large gatherings including but not limited to protests, civil unrest events, community clean up and recovery efforts, vigils, neighborhood defense meetings.
-fish-
Footballguy
Lol. My primary care provider said testing was unavailable since I didn't meet criteria. Our DOH says to get testing, go through your primary care provider.
Since you're unable to admit you're wrong that testing is available upon request to everyone, you want me to go to urgent care and try to fight with them about the DOH rules, when DOH just put out a statement that they've been bad about messaging that people with "mild symptoms" can get tested now? My urgent care is in the same care group as my primary. They have the same criteria.
It's impressive the lengths you'll go to to not admit you're wrong about someone else's health care that you know nothing whatsoever about.
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Footballguy
-fish-
Footballguy
the moops
Footballguy
And just to add - yes, I am quite sure that I am fortunate enough to have decently good healthcare and insurance, and that if I pushed hard enough, or lied about where I have been - I could get a test. But to think that the majority of towns/cities are just handing out coronavirus tests on every corner is just not true
Ok @the moops original argument was there aren't enough tests now to test symptomatic people to determine if they had the flu or not. There is not a single state declining tests of symptomatic people.
Show me a single state that doesn't test symptomatic people right NOW.
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https://www.abc15.com/news/state/adhs-director-tells-hospitals-to-activate-emergency-plan
ADHS tells AZ hospitals to activate emergency capacity to get ready for the surge.
ADHS tells AZ hospitals to activate emergency capacity to get ready for the surge.
Im not changing anything. The original point was invalid. You want me to "admit I'm wrong" on your anecdotal story vs DOH not gonna happen.
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Footballguy
I'll leave this for anyone who wants to be in charge of their own health.
https://www.arthrosurface.com/fitnesshealth/7-ways-advocate-health-care/
https://www.arthrosurface.com/fitnesshealth/7-ways-advocate-health-care/
Maybe it's time to find a better doctor. One that actually follows the DOH guidelines of your own state
matuski
Footballguy
You are digging a hole here. Lets move on.Maybe it's time to find a better doctor. One that actually follows the DOH guidelines of your own state
-fish-
Footballguy
What's fun when you're a trial lawyer isn't just showing a jury that someone's lying; it's getting them to admit the lie with their own words, and then watch them try to weasel out of it, since it completely destroys their credibility.Maybe it's time to find a better doctor. One that actually follows the DOH guidelines of your own state
Usually at that point you just move for a directed verdict.
Florida just had its first day under a thousand cases out of the past 6. It was still over 900 cases, and testing tends to lag on Mondays, but it appears heat is having a limited effect.
Yeah and with Arizona's numbers increasing it doesn't appear this thing will be dramatically impacted by the heat.
shader
Footballguy
I‘d love it if you’re right, but I think that’s reading way too much into one days numbers.
What is everyone's opinion on a 79 year old attending her granddaughters wedding with 400 invited? She and my wife are concerned, but they don't want to upset my sister in law who thinks the virus is no big deal. We are thinking mass and maybe dinner and get her out.
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belljr
Footballguy
Pipes
Footballguy
Not to be crass but she’s 79. I’m sure missing her grandchild’s wedding would be horrible for her. Hopefully they take some precautions like seating her before everyone else but let her have a good time.
themeanmachine
Footballguy
I wonder if it’s because the heat drives people inside with AC, which is more prone to spreading it around. Essentially counteracting the benefits of heat killing the virus when people are outside.
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Footballguy
Scoresman
Footballguy
matuski
Footballguy
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Who said I was in a camp? Don't listen to the usual suspects who want to pigeonhole everyone into one extreme vs the other.
The Commish
Footballguy
I'm not going to speak for @the moops but it doesn't seem like that's what he's saying at all. Regardless, I wasn't responding to him. I was responding to:
So, shove the goalposts around to where you want them to be, let me know when you're done and then we can talk.
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Footballguy
That's an odd take since the posts above yours were about peaks in hospitalizations in Texas and Arizona.A lot of people on social media screaming two weeks ago that anybody outside was going to kill grandma and should decline medical coverage. Those same people proudly posting pictures from the protests
It really was the flu after all.
Disgusting hypocrisyA lot of people on social media screaming two weeks ago that anybody outside was going to kill grandma and should decline medical coverage. Those same people proudly posting pictures from the protests
Case numbers taking a jump everywhere, that's some "logic" there.A lot of people on social media screaming two weeks ago that anybody outside was going to kill grandma and should decline medical coverage. Those same people proudly posting pictures from the protests
It really was the flu after all.
Texas is not close to hospital bed capacity. The fear of the virus at this point is really sad.
belljr
Footballguy
At no point did any post suggest Texas was at capacity. It was posted that it posted it's highest hospitalizations to date. ~1900
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