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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (33 Viewers)
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The heat benefits was a completely overblown talking point. It may stop it from living long on surfaces but there probably weren’t a lot people catching it by touching outdoor surfaces anyway.
CR69
Footballguy
leftcoastguy7
Footballguy
Oregon, which has maintained very low numbers throughout this, is also starting to show some concern.
Over the last two days Oregon set records for the number of people testing positive. Hospitalizations have also increased 40% in the past week. Just when I thought we were close to done.
urbanhack
Fight The Power!
Dezbelief
Footballguy
Considering the govenor has been lock step with the president through this crisis, opening up makes perfect sense.
Dezbelief
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glvsav37
Footballguy
Connecticut's numbers still trending in the right direction
- Hospitalizations up only once (25 May) in the past 35 days, and it was only by 5. We are sitting at 16.4% compared to our high mark on 22 April (324/1972).
- Deaths down to average of 17 per day over the last week. Before that, we were over 17 for 56 straight days and had averaged 67 deaths.
- Testing is up, and positives are down. 1352 positives in the last 7 days. The last time we were this low was when we first started testing in March. 46676 tests performed in last 7 days is nearly double the daily count over the previous 70 days (3421 vs 6668). 2.9% positive rate in last 7 days is a CT record.
20 May - started Phase 1 - The expected spike around 14 days later never happened. Our Phase 1 is still pretty restrictive compared to other states.
17 June - starting Phase 2 - Was set for 20 June, but Governor Lamont moved it up 3 days (IMO mostly due to restaurant owners complaining). Wondering if we see a spike on/about 1 July?
- Hospitalizations up only once (25 May) in the past 35 days, and it was only by 5. We are sitting at 16.4% compared to our high mark on 22 April (324/1972).
- Deaths down to average of 17 per day over the last week. Before that, we were over 17 for 56 straight days and had averaged 67 deaths.
- Testing is up, and positives are down. 1352 positives in the last 7 days. The last time we were this low was when we first started testing in March. 46676 tests performed in last 7 days is nearly double the daily count over the previous 70 days (3421 vs 6668). 2.9% positive rate in last 7 days is a CT record.
20 May - started Phase 1 - The expected spike around 14 days later never happened. Our Phase 1 is still pretty restrictive compared to other states.
17 June - starting Phase 2 - Was set for 20 June, but Governor Lamont moved it up 3 days (IMO mostly due to restaurant owners complaining). Wondering if we see a spike on/about 1 July?
114 new cases today in a state of 4 million. Shut it all down, everyone back inside forever.
Grace Under Pressure
Footballguy
Sorry, but it’s not working out in many places. AZ, UT, NC, FL you didn’t do it right. The curve never fully developed, you never really shut it down when you had the chance, and now you are starting the exponential upswing. Now you need to shut it down and go to extreme social distancing measures with no contact and masks ASAP, which you should have done when stimulus was going out and the country was told. Not good, and not listening didn’t help. Darn it, this is going to screw it up for everyone.
Oregon did so well for so long. Only Alaska, Hawaii, and Montana have a lower case count per capita. And deaths are near the lowest too. They are lagging in their testing though, so maybe the case count is quite a bit higher.
gobrowns33
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Georgia is still doing well and opened up the earliest... Cases have dropped slowly, but more importantly deaths have steadily declined.
For the most part, besides large gatherings, everything is back to normal.
I see the fear mongering is coming back slowly, even though last week coronavirus didnt matter, but this week it does again.
For the most part, besides large gatherings, everything is back to normal.
I see the fear mongering is coming back slowly, even though last week coronavirus didnt matter, but this week it does again.
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Most of Oregon's spike can be traced to 2 somewhat isolated outbreaks -- one at a nursing home, and one at a cannery. It's concerning but it sounds like something that is containable and/or traceable.
Penguin
Footballguy
NY, NJ & CT locked down really hard and complied a lot better than most states. I took a long time but our efforts are starting to show in the numbers.
My town literally sent out a notice in the paper yesterday stating that "Finally, testing will be available for all town residents, next week". This is suburb in southwestern CT, not a town in the middle of nowhere. It's just not true that everyone can get a test on demand.
belljr
Footballguy
I'm in southeastern CT, and just checked CT's portal link that discusses testing. Not only does the site suggest I DON'T get tested unless I fall into one of their categories, but when I click on the search to find a testing center near me, the closest one is an hours drive away, halfway across the state.
As we've learned from other places, the "official date of reopening" isn't really the marker. It's the softer date of "when people actually start going out and acting like it's over". I feel like that's less likely to happen in CT than other places. I know I won't be eating in a restaurant or attending large gatherings anytime soon.
So your proof that testing is not available for everyone is that your town sent out a notice that testing is now available for everyone?
"Next week". As in, as of June 9, it's still NOT available for everyone. Also, I suspect I don't need to mention, we've been told "coming soon" before and had it not materialize.
Look, I get it, there are lots of places where testing is abundant and available for anyone. There are also lots of places where it isn't.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
I don't think I've been doom and gloom in this thread but I can't seriously believe there's people still implying this is like the flu. We've already had 3x as many people die from Covid as we did from the flu last year and that is in basically 3-4 months with all of the measures we've taken. I want more than anything for things to go back to normal - especially for my kids. But it's nuts that people are this obtuse. I do think that it's a very vocal minority that feel this way - most people recognize it's much more serious but I do question how serious lots of people are taking it. Wear damn masks, keep your distance, wash your hands and ####### stay home if you don't have to be out.
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matuski
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I care about the 1900 hospitalizations.
It is a clear demonstration and affirmation that opening up was and remains the right call.
Nobody needs to be living in fear, stressing over keeping their businesses, losing their jobs, etc - over this.
matuski
Footballguy
Mr. Pickles
Footballguy
Might be less heat moving back to the shadyridr handle.
In Youngstown, Connecticut, population 2000, all residents are healthy individuals in their 20's. They all wear ankle monitors and haven't left their tiny town since birth. Every night for the last 12 months, the entire town has a giant keg party on Main Street, where no one wears masks or adheres to any social distancing rules.
About a month ago, some 80 year old guy heard about the fun town and decided to crash one of the keggers. He died 2 weeks later. All 2000 residents were brought up on murder charges, and all were found innocent. The jury determined the 80 year old was a moron.
AAABatteries
Footballguy
whoknew
Footballguy
Pretty disappointing update from this. Apparently this does not include presymptomatic people. So they were distinguishing between asymptomatic and presymptomatic. Which - from a practical perspective - is meaningless. Doesn't help us at all.
Wasn't my doing and quite honestly this place has passed me by. Im sure you will all be happy when I'm gone.
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That's an unbelievably stupid statement from them. It should have been obvious that 99% of the people who heard about it wouldn't make the distinction and would draw the wrong conclusions.
The Commish
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The Commish
Footballguy
Read a reuters article on this yesterday and it seems you're correct...not all that helpful
Update - Alaska is huge!
65,912 tests performed = 1 test per 10 square miles (about the size of Tuvalu, a country in the South Pacific)
563 positive tests = 1 positive per 1,178 square miles (148 square miles more than Rhode Island)
10 deaths = 1 death per 66,330 square miles (roughly the size of Georgia, the 21st largest state)
65,912 tests performed = 1 test per 10 square miles (about the size of Tuvalu, a country in the South Pacific)
563 positive tests = 1 positive per 1,178 square miles (148 square miles more than Rhode Island)
10 deaths = 1 death per 66,330 square miles (roughly the size of Georgia, the 21st largest state)
Agreed. Only problem is there’s absolutely no chance they are shutting down AZ. Governor won’t do it and even if he did, no one will follow it.
Statorama
Footballguy
Reminder - The death numbers you're seeing are people that died WITH Covid, not necessarily FROM or DUE TO Covid.
A lot of fear is being driven off of those death numbers, although I'm sure you Nancy's would find something else to hide under your covers about if it wasn't that.
A lot of fear is being driven off of those death numbers, although I'm sure you Nancy's would find something else to hide under your covers about if it wasn't that.
Don't Noonan
Footballguy
I for one don't believe the numbers that are being reported. Folks are being ruled as coronavirus death when they die from other causes regularly.
The Commish
Footballguy
Can you guys please keep this stuff in the political version? This was discussed and already addressed thoroughly in that thread.
jamny
Footballguy
It's not political and is still a valid discussion, imo. I'll be interested to see the numbers as they are updated. Maybe they're actually too low.
The Commish
Footballguy
The original narrative is 100% political and so are the variations we're seeing. They may end up a bit higher or a bit lower...in the end it won't be a huge number to have any sort of meaningful impact at all. We won't have good "death rates" on this thing for a few years. It's something we will have to continually manage going forward. As time goes on, we will get a more and more accurate picture. This other stuff is nonsense.
There are threads dedicated to the "undercount versus overcount" discussion in both PSF and FFA. The arguments have been laid out in both. As The Commish notes, take it up there instead of posting thoroughly debunked nonsense here.
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proteus126
Footballguy
Grace Under Pressure
Footballguy
Sending kids to camp?
Our daughter will go to her day camp, year 6 for her at the camp, she's 10. July 6 - August 19.
Then figure out school.
jamny
Footballguy
I rarely go to the PSF and dont know about another thread here so I'm fine with it in this thread. Opinions differ I guess
belljr
Footballguy
You know, I heard you had balls big enough to come in a dump truck, but you don't look like much to me.
The Commish
Footballguy
jm192 did a really good job laying all the info on this topic out in that thread.....I'll see if I can find a good place to start in there so you don't have to wade through all the other crap....if you're interested of course.
Sand
Footballguy
Funny on CNBC:
#1 Story - Asymptomatic spread of coronavirus is ‘very rare,’ WHO says
#2 Story - WHO walks back comments on asymptomatic coronavirus spread, says much is still unknown
Totally, utterly dysfunctional organization. Between this and the mask/no mask debacle I think we've seen all we need to see on how much trust we should place in them.
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