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You 2 have no idea how happy/relieved this makes me. I've been saying this to my wife and friends for 3 weeks now to blank faces and I'm the idiot.Nope. I'm right there with you, GB.![]()
You 2 have no idea how happy/relieved this makes me. I've been saying this to my wife and friends for 3 weeks now to blank faces and I'm the idiot.Nope. I'm right there with you, GB.![]()
Not even close to being worried about it.
You 2 have no idea how happy/relieved this makes me. I've been saying this to my wife and friends for 3 weeks now to blank faces and I'm the idiot.
It's not N-Cov 2019. The incubation period (symptom free at that) is two weeks. That said, get well soon. Did you know that the normal flu kills far more people every yearMaybe I should have worn a mask while traveling after all. Developed a nasty hacking cough over night. In addition to traveling, including two short layovers between Austin and West Palm in Harts-field-Jackson (one flight in an International Terminal,) I also spent two days in hospital waiting areas in Boca. So pretty much nice knowing you boys, I’m presently deleting my browsing history while making a last ditch effort to save myself with a Trader Joe’s detox tea. Will it be enough though?
300/10000= 0.03Let's talk statistics. We are now well into this thing and have >300 cases with 1 fatality outside china.
You have 10000 cases in China with 300 odd fatalities.
Why the mismatch? Options I see:
- China is severely under-reporting the numbers infected and the fatality rate is actually in the 0.1% range.
- China facilities are completely overwhelmed and the fatality rate is spiraling due to the quality of care
- It takes far longer to survive than the two weeks previously reported.
- ???
https://imgur.com/a/P2cg3p2#LXDScwI300/10000= 0.03
1/300= 0.03333
What mismatch?
ETA: Is this MoPmathTM?
I've been around the block a few times. I've seen the Cold War and about 10 super bugs that were going to kill us all.I figured you'd be in the "I'll just go to Kroger" crowd. I wish ya the best of luck w that strategy.
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Don't forget Y2K!!!!I've been around the block a few times. I've seen the Cold War and about 10 super bugs that were going to kill us all.
"Comrades Remdesivir, Oseltamivir, Lopinavir, and Ritonavir, the polonium vial is in the lead lined case. Your mark is currently in London. Report when completed."This looks like the person who was in charge of naming this just smashed their keyboard and said, "Run with it."
China CDC Situation Report on Feb-03
Suspected cases: +5072 new ==> 23214 total
Confirmed cases: +3235 new ==> 20438 total
Severe: +492 new ==> 2788 total
Dead: +64 new ==> 425 total
Recovered: +157 new ==> 632 total
I appreciate the updated numbers...thanks!No problem. I can stop if it bothers you. China is setting up a sports center and 2 convention centers as hospitals in Wuhan. This tells you they know things are not under control.
The things that bother me are few and far between, which is a problem with written text.No problem. I can stop if it bothers you. China is setting up a sports center and 2 convention centers as hospitals in Wuhan. This tells you they know things are not under control.
No problem. I can stop if it bothers you. China is setting up a sports center and 2 convention centers as hospitals in Wuhan. This tells you they know things are not under control.
I think most, if not all in this thread realize that those numbers are the absolute bare minimumYou posted this after I had typed out my previous response. The problem is i think your numbers make things look too good.
I say this as a slightly right-leaning, all-of-politics-hating non-red-non-blue '16 voting dude:“China has accepted the United States’ offer to incorporate a group of experts into a World Health Organization mission to China to learn more about and combat the virus,” White House spokesman Judd Deere said.
Link - includes comments from China on US “interference”.
China rocketing up the draft boards of Backwards Hellhole mock. Prayers for the ill and their families who are battling not just the disease but their own damn government.“China has accepted the United States’ offer to incorporate a group of experts into a World Health Organization mission to China to learn more about and combat the virus,” White House spokesman Judd Deere said.
Link - includes comments from China on US “interference”.
This. I work in the jewelry/watch industry and have vendors and dealers that I work with that are from China and Hong Kong. Many of them tell me that the government has shut down many of the ways they can communicate with each other within China—the Chinese government is controlling much of the news—so even people that are living in China that aren’t sick are in the dark about how bad the scope of the disease is. I said it before many times in this thread and got labeled as being a fear monger—but we will most likely never know how bad the death toll is there. The turmoil and the economic collateral damage that would result from accurate reporting is something that neither governments want to happen. This is why I’ve said repeatedly—if somebody wants to accurately gauge the severity of the situation—they are far better off analyzing the actions of each country than they are trusting numbers that are obviously and criminally low.MTskibum said:The things that bother me are few and far between, which is a problem with written text.
I live in a community that is 40% asian and have close friends/coworkers with family members in mainland china. I have been following this significantly more than the average US citizen. They are worried sick about this and based on what they have heard first hand the chinese numbers are not trusted by anyone. My concern is only with people seeing those numbers and thinking that they are accurate.
And Trump supporters have no idea they're posting caucus news in the Corona virus threadfox news
"Democrats can't manage a 200K primary vote, and they think they can manage a country"
How do you figure? I’ve been alive half a century, and never experienced anything requiring 2+ weeks of survival sundries/gear. How many pandemics and natural disasters have you lived through?You're being smart.
Certain folks dismiss any level of preparedness like you're some Crazy militia extremist sticking your bunker for the zombie apocalypse.
However, the reality is that the odds are pretty good that we all have pretty decent odds of looking at some sort of pandemic or natural-disaster induced disruption of services in our lifetime.
IMO anyone who doesn't stock at LEAST 2 weeks of food (~20-30K cal per person), and water (7-10gal per person) is asking for trouble.
You’re right about profit potential, but there’s nothing suggesting those drugs are anything but experimental.Is the Wall Street Journal a good enough source?
Johnson and Johnson already shipping.
Aluvia has already been used as experimental treatment.
Lots of profit to be made. Exploitation race is on!
No I wouldn’t go. And FTR, obese people have increased risk of flu related complications.Hypothetically if I had to make an urgent work trip to Singapore in the coming weeks, bad idea? Mrs. O said absolutely not. I keep explaining it’s not China, it’s not even all that close to China, there are some countries between the two, and it’s an island. I suppose the issue is lots of people probably travel to Singapore from China for the lunar new year. But then again, is this thing killing a guy like Otis in his 40s who is healthy as a horse? I doubt it. I bet just like the regular flu deaths it is the elderly and those with weakened immune systems or other issues already.
Would you go to Singapore now?
Another 4574 and we get to the amount of people who are killed by Hippos in Africa in an average year.Penguin said:Latest update
There are currently 20,626 confirmed cases worldwide, including 426 fatalities.
Just got back yesterday from Singapore after a four-day business trip. You do see many people there wearing masks, but I didn't find it to be all-consuming among the locals. In speaking to some locals, I would say there is some trepidation in terms of people staying home - the bars and restaurants were a bit quiet during the normally vibrant Lunar New Year.Hypothetically if I had to make an urgent work trip to Singapore in the coming weeks, bad idea? Mrs. O said absolutely not. I keep explaining it’s not China, it’s not even all that close to China, there are some countries between the two, and it’s an island. I suppose the issue is lots of people probably travel to Singapore from China for the lunar new year. But then again, is this thing killing a guy like Otis in his 40s who is healthy as a horse? I doubt it. I bet just like the regular flu deaths it is the elderly and those with weakened immune systems or other issues already.
Would you go to Singapore now?
A person is smart; "people" are dumb.Wait a minute, hippos kill 5,000 people a year??
Another 4574 and we get to the amount of people who are killed by Hippos in Africa in an average year.
obviously this needs to be watched but it’s been overblown.
We have at least a couple months of food in our house, none of it is prepper stuff, just a stocked pantry and three freezers. I have a couple cases of water that would last 72 hours but not much beyond but in the case of a quarantine it is doubtful the government would be shutting off our water.[icon] said:![]()
The federal government advises every family have food/water supplies for 72 hours of shut in. I've stretched it 6 weeks to be safe. It's a small corner of my guest room closet about the size of a micro fridge. If you think that makes me a "Full on apocalyptic prepper" then you don't get out much![]()
Hypothetically a situation like what China is dealing with surfaces here and you've got to lock down at your home for ~3 weeks. What's your plan? Run to the grocery store and brave worse-than-black-friday crowds grab some food? You already prepared for that? Or just don't think it could happen? Not being a smartass, sincere question.
In an average year. They are nasty.Wait a minute, hippos kill 5,000 people a year??
This outbreak is in the very early stages and the only chance of containing it is to shut down countries early. Unfortunately it's looking like we still may have been too late. Next 2 weeks will be huge.400 on a billion is worth watching but it’s not time to shut down entire countries.
I'm no expert, but viruses kill much differently than hippos. You can't wait until 2% of the population is dead to react.In an average year. They are nasty.
its 5k out of 1.3B, so it’s not big % wise which is kind of the point I was making here. 400 on a billion is worth watching but it’s not time to shut down entire countries.
You are overreacting. Don’t be such a hippo-chondriac.In an average year. They are nasty.
its 5k out of 1.3B, so it’s not big % wise which is kind of the point I was making here. 400 on a billion is worth watching but it’s not time to shut down entire countries.
I can't believe they left out the yoga studio.
They're so ugly they're cute kind of animal.hippos are cool. closely related to whales.
thats the red flag for me. makes you suspect they created this monster as a biological weaponThe fact the China locked down so many cities in a short span of time indicated that the government knows more about the virus.
does that work for humans too? asking for a friendThey're so ugly they're cute kind of animal.