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literally?Sorry to hear. Most of my friends are the same. Just dying to get out.
literally?Sorry to hear. Most of my friends are the same. Just dying to get out.
We went from 500s to 1000 this week now are approaching 1500.TN was on a 20-day streak of 350 cases a day. The last week has seen a clear rise into the 450 range.
The downward trend in many areas has clearly halted.
As a whole the USA was definitely heading down. Not it appears it is slowly going up, just what you’d expect from a country that started giving up 2 weeks ago.
Id expect mid to late next week that we will start seeing protest impacts. Today makes me sick to my stomach over what is around the corner.
Got any data on recent Mecklenburg cases?Got any data on recent Mecklenburg cases?I was seeing videos of the protestors going around outside of different, packed breweries in South End last night. Most of my friends think there is nothing to worry about and HATE that so much is still closed
Any stats on testing numbers?We went from 500s to 1000 this week now are approaching 1500.
Thanks...cases seem to be rising somewhat in line with increased testing and hospitalizations relatively flat since May 26th. Hopefully that holds after protests.
States are on different parts of the curve. NY had 35 deaths TOTAL.Yeah. Some of the states numbers for yesterday are shocking.
This is literally what I cam here to post. We just conducted a giant natural experiment on what happens when we let people do whatever they want again, only with masks and outdoors in nice summer weather. The preliminary results look horrible. I will not surprised if schools are shut down again in the fall if the next few weeks go south the way I fear they might.My girlfriend was able to go back to work (childcare center) on the 1st. Yesterday, we got a notification that an employee tested positive and that the center will be shutting down indefinitely once again. Didn’t even make it a full week. ####ty situation, and I fear it’s a sign of what’s to come when we try to re-open schools in the fall.
As much as I have been sticking up for Florida, my experience has been the opposite. Covid-19 is a thing of the past from what I’ve seen in the last 2-3 weeks down here. Hardly anyone with masks. Places opening back up. Nobody really talking about it anymore.Florida is about to hit 1300 cases again today, but surprisingly, people are still doing okay with the social distancing and wearing masks. I was at the beach today(niece's birthday party), and everyone was staying apart, though masks weren't really a thing.
I guess it depends on where you are. The Treasure Coast is still(mostly) following the guidelines, but it's definitely slacked off some.As much as I have been sticking up for Florida, my experience has been the opposite. Covid-19 is a thing of the past from what I’ve seen in the last 2-3 weeks down here. Hardly anyone with masks. Places opening back up. Nobody really talking about it anymore.
Yea ours is opening soon. But we aren’t sending the kid back for a bit. Just too risky. It sucks because it would be nice for him to have that social interaction with his peers but then again all it takes is one person ####### up and everyone gets it.My girlfriend was able to go back to work (childcare center) on the 1st. Yesterday, we got a notification that an employee tested positive and that the center will be shutting down indefinitely once again. Didn’t even make it a full week. ####ty situation, and I fear it’s a sign of what’s to come when we try to re-open schools in the fall.
Do you live your life in a doom and gloom scenario every day?TN was on a 20-day streak of 350 cases a day. The last week has seen a clear rise into the 450 range.
The downward trend in many areas has clearly halted.
As a whole the USA was definitely heading down. Not it appears it is slowly going up, just what you’d expect from a country that started giving up 2 weeks ago.
Id expect mid to late next week that we will start seeing protest impacts. Today makes me sick to my stomach over what is around the corner.
I think I’ve been in this thread once or twice today. Do you live your life with your head in the sand?Do you live your life in a doom and gloom scenario every day?
Nor should they.From what I am seeing the majority of people think this is over or was never a thing to begin with. If we spike again I think it will be hard to shut things down again because the majority will not comply.
Consider yourself lucky...up here on space coast, the markers are on the floors...that's about it....and we've never really ever flattened or decreased...upward trajectory this whole time. This state won't shut down again, no matter how bad it gets. Current actions are making all the previous ones pointless. Bizarre to watchI guess it depends on where you are. The Treasure Coast is still(mostly) following the guidelines, but it's definitely slacked off some.
No, I really don't. I'm a pretty educated dude who likes to drink a cold beer and take a positive spin on life. If I dwell on the negative all the time I raise kids who grow up in a household of negativity. And who really wants that?I think I’ve been in this thread once or twice today. Do you live your life with your head in the sand?
Don't watch the videos from the casinos opening in Vegas thenFrustrated to see so many (50% of more) not wearing a mask at grocery or other places where hundreds, even thousands, are mixing fairly closely each day. Employees in such locations seem to be 100% when it comes to wearing a mask - sad to see about half just not giving a f### about the health of others.
You’re in the Treasure Coast too? I feel like that Spider-Man meme where they’re both pointing at each other.I guess it depends on where you are. The Treasure Coast is still(mostly) following the guidelines, but it's definitely slacked off some.
While I'm definitely more cautious than you the sentimate is similar. I've never been overly concerned with getting the virus considering I'm relatively healthy, I have followed precautions so as not to overwhelm the medical system. I'll still take precautions, especially where requested, but I'm willing to see what happens for now. With so many gatherings over the past month, we haven't seen major spikes.No, I really don't. I'm a pretty educated dude who likes to drink a cold beer and take a positive spin on life. If I dwell on the negative all the time I raise kids who grow up in a household of negativity. And who really wants that?
I like to think that if I do the right things and raise my kids to do the right things everything will turn out alright. And if the Good Lord takes me because I took my kids fishing during a Covid-19 outbreak and I happened to grab a hand rail on the dock and that's what took me, then so be it.
I'm cool with that.
That's probably an accurate description, though localities and jobs may alter our perceptions.You’re in the Treasure Coast too? I feel like that Spider-Man meme where they’re both pointing at each other.
Yeah, I saw some videos of Cosmo earlier. Ungood.Don't watch the videos from the casinos opening in Vegas then
Part of the reason this virus is so pernicious is that people without symptoms or much risk themselves can spread it to those that are vulnerable so easy. Precautions like masks when in public are important now.While I'm definitely more cautious than you the sentimate is similar. I've never been overly concerned with getting the virus considering I'm relatively healthy, I have followed precautions so as not to overwhelm the medical system. I'll still take precautions, especially where requested, but I'm willing to see what happens for now. With so many gatherings over the past month, we haven't seen major spikes.
Take it one week at a time.
Preach!Why is everyone still so fixated on cases per day numbers...unless testing is steady each day they are irrelevant. The whole point of lockdowns was to flatten the curve so hospitals don't get overrun. The only stats that matter are hospitalizations and deaths per day. The more healthy folks that are getting it the better...as long as the hospitalizations/death curves don't spike.
The riots or protests? I think the riots don't have a large impact, the protests might.Why is everyone still so fixated on cases per day numbers...unless testing is steady each day they are irrelevant. The whole point of lockdowns was to flatten the curve so hospitals don't get overrun. The only stats that matter are hospitalizations and deaths per day. The more healthy folks that are getting it the better...as long as the hospitalizations/death curves don't spike.
And the riots have made this all irrelevant. I saw in California, the new guidelines allowed no more the groups of 12 for social gatherings...and right below that was protests were allowed if it was 100 people or less! So basically, if you call your birthday party a protest, you are allowed 100 people! Some of these states are ridiculous!
Excellent postWhy is everyone still so fixated on cases per day numbers...unless testing is steady each day they are irrelevant. The whole point of lockdowns was to flatten the curve so hospitals don't get overrun. The only stats that matter are hospitalizations and deaths per day. The more healthy folks that are getting it the better...as long as the hospitalizations/death curves don't spike.
And the riots have made this all irrelevant. I saw in California, the new guidelines allowed no more the groups of 12 for social gatherings...and right below that was protests were allowed if it was 100 people or less! So basically, if you call your birthday party a protest, you are allowed 100 people! Some of these states are ridiculous!
Even you can't possibly place any merit in these numbers anymore... right?TN was on a 20-day streak of 350 cases a day. The last week has seen a clear rise into the 450 range.
The downward trend in many areas has clearly halted.
As a whole the USA was definitely heading down. Not it appears it is slowly going up, just what you’d expect from a country that started giving up 2 weeks ago.
Id expect mid to late next week that we will start seeing protest impacts. Today makes me sick to my stomach over what is around the corner.
Why is everyone still so fixated on cases per day numbers...unless testing is steady each day they are irrelevant. The whole point of lockdowns was to flatten the curve so hospitals don't get overrun. The only stats that matter are hospitalizations and deaths per day. The more healthy folks that are getting it the better...as long as the hospitalizations/death curves don't spike.
And the riots have made this all irrelevant. I saw in California, the new guidelines allowed no more the groups of 12 for social gatherings...and right below that was protests were allowed if it was 100 people or less! So basically, if you call your birthday party a protest, you are allowed 100 people! Some of these states are ridiculous!
Yeah you are right, probably more the protests...I guess my point bringing them both up is that there is no outrage about social distancing and masks during them all...those things are only preached when it fits the narrative. So now when you tell me I can't have more the 10 people at my house because of COVID, your argument doesn't matter...you were OK with gatherings of 100s to 1000s.The riots or protests? I think the riots don't have a large impact, the protests might.
This is a little oversimplified. The limited exemption for protests comes with a requirement to wear face coverings and maintain social distance (neither of which is required if you're having a social gathering). (link)And the riots have made this all irrelevant. I saw in California, the new guidelines allowed no more the groups of 12 for social gatherings...and right below that was protests were allowed if it was 100 people or less! So basically, if you call your birthday party a protest, you are allowed 100 people! Some of these states are ridiculous!
Social distancing at protests?This is a little oversimplified. The limited exemption for protests comes with a requirement to wear face coverings and maintain social distance (neither of which is required if you're having a social gathering). (link)
Not sure "fixated" is the word. To the general question, I guess people look at cases because it's the initial indicator of what is to come. Similar to how "dark" the storm clouds are in the distance coming your way. If the number of cases is going up, the number of possible hospitalizations and deaths are going up. That's ungood to many. Sure, some will be fine, but the more cases the more opportunity for hospitalization and death. Belle Glade Florida was a good example of why people look at cases. It got really bad and was unmanageable for about two and half weeks. They seem to have it under control, but the rise in cases forecast a bad outcome in the not too distant future.Why is everyone still so fixated on cases per day numbers...unless testing is steady each day they are irrelevant. The whole point of lockdowns was to flatten the curve so hospitals don't get overrun. The only stats that matter are hospitalizations and deaths per day. The more healthy folks that are getting it the better...as long as the hospitalizations/death curves don't spike.
And the riots have made this all irrelevant. I saw in California, the new guidelines allowed no more the groups of 12 for social gatherings...and right below that was protests were allowed if it was 100 people or less! So basically, if you call your birthday party a protest, you are allowed 100 people! Some of these states are ridiculous!
Thanks, Karen from Facebook.This is ok but kids can't have outdoor graduation ceremonies?
https://nypost.com/2020/06/06/nyc-sees-another-day-of-george-floyd-protests-in-the-streets/
I don’t go out much but I have gone to Home Depot a few times. I’d say 20% wearing masks and that includes the workers. It’s crazy.Frustrated to see so many (50% of more) not wearing a mask at grocery or other places where hundreds, even thousands, are mixing fairly closely each day. Employees in such locations seem to be 100% when it comes to wearing a mask - sad to see about half just not giving a f### about the health of others.
At what threshold would you consider hospitalizations and/or deaths “spiking”?Why is everyone still so fixated on cases per day numbers...unless testing is steady each day they are irrelevant. The whole point of lockdowns was to flatten the curve so hospitals don't get overrun. The only stats that matter are hospitalizations and deaths per day. The more healthy folks that are getting it the better...as long as the hospitalizations/death curves don't spike.
And the riots have made this all irrelevant. I saw in California, the new guidelines allowed no more the groups of 12 for social gatherings...and right below that was protests were allowed if it was 100 people or less! So basically, if you call your birthday party a protest, you are allowed 100 people! Some of these states are ridiculous!
I don't blame them at allAccording to CDC, as of 3 June:
- 33% of deaths are 85 and older
- 27% of deaths are 75-84
- 21% of deaths are 65-74
- 12% of deaths are 55-64
- 5% of deaths are 45-54
Only 2% of deaths are from folks under 45, and it's well below 1% for the younger generation. I don't want to sound too heartless, but can you really blame a 20-something for not giving a crap about this virus? They likely don't know a single person in their age bracket who has died, or even gotten seriously ill.
No, but they have parents and aunts and uncles and grandparents and neighbors and colleagues and....I don't want to sound too heartless, but can you really blame a 20-something for not giving a crap about this virus? They likely don't know a single person in their age bracket who has died, or even gotten seriously ill.
And if you are 20-something, which of those people above are really risky, besides your grandparents, and how often does a 20-something see their grandparent?No, but they have parents and aunts and uncles and grandparents and neighbors and colleagues and....
You are starting to sound heartless, FYIAnd if you are 20-something, which of those people above are really risky, besides your grandparents, and how often does a 20-something see their grandparent?
Cases are not irrelevant at all. More "healthy" folks getting it is assuredly not better.Why is everyone still so fixated on cases per day numbers...unless testing is steady each day they are irrelevant. The whole point of lockdowns was to flatten the curve so hospitals don't get overrun. The only stats that matter are hospitalizations and deaths per day. The more healthy folks that are getting it the better...as long as the hospitalizations/death curves don't spike.
I don’t think he is. It’s a legitimate point.You are starting to sound heartless, FYI