Dezbelief
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Did you test positive? What was your experience? Did several people in your daily life get it?
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*** OFFICIAL *** COVID-19 CoronaVirus Thread. Fresh epidemic fears as child pneumonia cases surge in Europe after China outbreak. NOW in USA (23 Viewers)
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CR69
Footballguy
A lot of it has to do with the viral load. When the first started, I saw an acquaintance end up in the hospital for two weeks. Dude is in his 30’s and is heavy into CrossFit. He lost like 30 pounds. The before and after photos looked like one of those PSAs for meth. That scared the hell out of me.
NYC likely was so bad because the virus was already overrunning the city before anyone noticed. Testing was so poor that actual cases were many times higher which allowed it to hit the highly vulnerable populations and lead to the massive death doubts.
What were seeing now in Arizona, Florida and Texas is a lot of younger to middle aged people getting it likely due to Memorial Day fun and soon from protests. These by themselves may not lead to massive deaths but left unchecked it will get to the people most likely to die.
Now is the time to act because the Fourth of July is coming up and if there’s uncontrolled spread, another NYC may happen. AZ is taking steps forward with mask mandates, but who knows if that will be enough.
What were seeing now in Arizona, Florida and Texas is a lot of younger to middle aged people getting it likely due to Memorial Day fun and soon from protests. These by themselves may not lead to massive deaths but left unchecked it will get to the people most likely to die.
Now is the time to act because the Fourth of July is coming up and if there’s uncontrolled spread, another NYC may happen. AZ is taking steps forward with mask mandates, but who knows if that will be enough.
Joe Summer
Footballguy
This article is a few days old but I did a search and didn't find anything, so...
British scientists say common steroid can help save severely ill coronavirus patients
Is dexamethasone what we all hoped hydroxychloriquine would be?
British scientists say common steroid can help save severely ill coronavirus patients
Is dexamethasone what we all hoped hydroxychloriquine would be?
The study results are good but hardly ground breaking. Steroids are known to be effective in breathing issues and a few interviews with COVID doctors, they said Dexamethasone has already been a part of treatment in the US. It certainly isn’t a wonder drug that will change precautions for protection. But it may help to reduce deaths and that could be huge.
growlers
Footballguy
I don’t think this will ultimately pan out. Steroids have been studied for ARDS and viral infections numerous times, generally a very mild treatment effect except in very specific circumstances. Hard to believe corona will be the exception given the track record. But I certainly hope it is.
It’s very very important to keep mind that there is literally hundreds of studies being conducted of multiple different therapies. Just by random chance some will show an effect based on the usual p value that is required to have a “positive outcome” even if theoretically all the therapies are not actually truly helpful. I can’t stress how important this is. I would be shocked if there weren’t a dozen ongoing studies of steroids in Covid worldwide. Even if it’s not helpful at all, statistics will dictate that it’s possible one or some would be positive. It’s the confirmatory studies that truly matter.
Am I reading this right? 13 out of 14 people you know that have died of COVID are under 50? Where do you live?
yeah that's approximately .56% of all deaths in the US under 50 from COVID.
Source: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#AgeAndSex (they report 45-55, so I split that in half...which is probably generous)
Hope you don't mind if I get nit picky, but can you give age ranges of the 14? Also, so sorry, dude. To lose 14 in such a short time is crushing.
According to the CDC website, here are the percentages of COVID deaths by age category:
Under 1 year old = 0.005%
1 - 4 years = 0.005%
5 - 14 years = 0.01%
15 - 24 years = 0.12%
25 - 34 years = 0.68%
35 - 44 years = 1.72%
45 - 54 years = 4.82%
55 - 64 years = 11.91%
65 - 74 years = 20.77%
75 - 84 years = 26.64%
85 and over = 33.32%
These numbers really haven't changed since the outbreak began. They are one of the main reasons many are calling the younger generations selfish and heartless.
Under 1 year old = 0.005%
1 - 4 years = 0.005%
5 - 14 years = 0.01%
15 - 24 years = 0.12%
25 - 34 years = 0.68%
35 - 44 years = 1.72%
45 - 54 years = 4.82%
55 - 64 years = 11.91%
65 - 74 years = 20.77%
75 - 84 years = 26.64%
85 and over = 33.32%
These numbers really haven't changed since the outbreak began. They are one of the main reasons many are calling the younger generations selfish and heartless.
culdeus
Footballguy
DallasDMac
Footballguy
I am constantly amazed at how many older folks I see without masks on at our local grocery store. I just have to shake my head. I just assume they have miserable lives and are fine with dying. Starting tomorrow, I'll see zero. But as the new mandate isn't in place until then and we need to shop today, we'll have one last observation day to gauge the makeup of the idiot population.
mr roboto
Footballguy
Blows my mind. Went to Target yesterday to pick up a few things for a birthday party. Saw maybe 80% mask wearing. The 20% who weren’t were largely older (55-70) and a few teenagers.
Cold Dead Hands
Footballguy
He lost 14 friends and relatives from Covid. Maybe we can stop interrogating him as though he committed a crime rather then just providing his perspective. The politicization of this epidemic has caused some of the worst traits in people to surface in some people. Maybe the move here isn’t to start an argument or debate, but to offer sympathy and condolences like an actual human being.
beer 30
Footballguy
We have money for that, we always have money for that...we just never use it for that.
derek245583
Footballguy
derek245583
Footballguy
Couple of younger guys ended up in hospital. Both large dudes...very unhealthy. Both good now
Because it’s statistically improbable when looking at the age stratifications of deaths for one person to know that many under 50.
I've been out to dine a couple of time in the Charlotte area and felt pretty safe. Last night I went out to eat in the liberal capital of the southeast and the servers and cooks weren't wearing masks. Wait staff was getting three feet from my face. I won't be going back there.
Healthy people can die from the flu. That seems like some really bad permanent damage too.
the moops
Footballguy
Speaking of CrossFit.
My ####### cousin - 43 year old, severely overweight with some sort of autoimmune disease, is way into CrossFit. Her overweight husband is too. I am way proud of them, for they seem to be trying to improve their health. However, they are not there yet, and still struggle with overeating and their love for CrossFit goes very hot and cold.
Well - their gym in Ohio opened up (unsure when), and she is posting videos of them doing their CrossFit challenges (don't know what they are called) from the past few days. Hundreds of people inside lifting tires and #### over their heads and screaming and yelling. A good chunk of them not in the best shape. No masks. No distancing. A lot of sweating and coughing and yelling.
Ugh
122,000 dead x 5% under 50 = 6100 people that fit into that category. Pretty easy to "know of" 14 of them if your socially active.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
culdeus
Footballguy
culdeus
Footballguy
jplvr
Footballguy
My stepsister is friends with a nurse in the Opelika/Auburn area of Alabama, which is apparently a new hot spot. She said her friend is a nurse, handles the Covid report submission for her hospital, has tested twice, and knows she’s has been counted twice. Couple that with another story she knows, where a woman has tested positive 6 times with a nasal swab... did she get counted 6 times? That woman has tested positive for 3 weeks with zero symptoms, regardless. Her doctor has argued she should be allowed to work and questions the validity of the tests her job is using.
I started to post late last night, but I wanted to confirm some details with her before I posted here. She’s an accountant and her husband is a professor. I don’t know why I feel the need to qualify their status, but I know this anecdote will be met with scrutiny here.
I started to post late last night, but I wanted to confirm some details with her before I posted here. She’s an accountant and her husband is a professor. I don’t know why I feel the need to qualify their status, but I know this anecdote will be met with scrutiny here.
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shader
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I'm sure there are odd reporting snafus everywhere, it's certainly not a perfect process. Not sure why anyone would scrutinize your story.
Ilov80s
Footballguy
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
The Rt Live website made great strides with their recent updates, but it's still a bit wonky. CT is rocking now, as the site shows, but we sucked balls 2 months ago. I have a spreadsheet that I update daily, and we didn't start "winning" until a month ago. I have noticed similar disparities with many states. Arizona, for example, is showing as a bad state 3 months ago. Yeah right.
matuski
Footballguy
CR69
Footballguy
Yeah that's way ####### over the line. I thought the "grandma should die so my kid can play t-ball" guy would be impossible to beat but here we are.
That being said, 90% of people in here seem to be compassionate and that gives me hope.
you guys. 
GoBirds
Footballguy
- 0.82% of all COVID deaths in the US are under 35 years old
- 100% of all under-35 non-mask wearers are under 35 years of age
- 100% of all senior citizens are older than non-senior citizens
toshiba
Footballguy
I am not sure I would be inclined to help the geezers out if all I saw was science denying non-mask wearing old-coots.
culdeus
Footballguy
http://imgur.com/1USVKCN
This is interesting graph. Takes case number and puts death figure +7 days out. There is a clear decoupling happening with this which is absolutely required if #### is to not hit the fan.
This is interesting graph. Takes case number and puts death figure +7 days out. There is a clear decoupling happening with this which is absolutely required if #### is to not hit the fan.
The Commish
Footballguy
huh...it's been a week already? 
Penguin
Footballguy
Penguin
Footballguy
Working retail constantly reminds me why I hate people. A couple ‘bros’ proudly walk by without a mask with woman and a boy who were wearing masks. The two bros are going back and forth insult the boy as a wussy and other names that can’t be said here. The boy was maybe 7 years old.
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