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riot_208 said:
I agree that playcalling and WR's are average but I do believe that the Key to this whole year lies with The Health of Felix jones. We can have balance on Offense with Either Barber or choice , but nither of them have the consistant game breaking ability of Felix. He makes the Other teams Def coor. pick his poison. Play the pass heavy or run? when he's on the field the average wr's seem more open because they are but when he's not they are not huge playmaker's so offense will look shaky. when there all out there, very hard to beat this team. you will see and then you can tell me I was right
If your season/team relies on a part time player with a very high tendency to get hurt.....you might have a problem. He helps, but come on.
Colts and Bob Sanders, Eagles and McNabb, etc. etc. etc.Felix had one injury last season that caused him to miss time. The trainers worsened it.

Felix has had one injury this season that's caused him to miss time. Hopefully the trainers don't worsen it.

He's pretty new to the league, we'll see if he has a "very high tendency" to get injured... we don't know yet. Right now, Barber has had more injuries this and last season than Jones. Does he have a "very high tendency" to get injured as well?
As a F. Jones owner my concern is that both injuries to Felix came on plays where there wasn't allot of contact.

 
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Nothing worse than fair weather fans or non fans in a fan thread.
Nothing worse than fans who accept mediocrity. Woopdie do, they MIGHT, make the playoffs, IF THEY ARE LUCKY. Then what? You really think these idiot coaches and Romo are capable of winning a big game? UH NO, THEY HAVE PROVEN THAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN!I don't give a damn about winning the wildcard, winning the division, or even making it to the NFC finals. IT ALL MEANS NOTHING! The teams that celebrate such worthless accomplishments are losers like the Cleveland Browns. A true fan doesnt stand for this. As far as im concerned, fire everybody now and start the rebuilding process immediately. This team doesnt have what it takes to win a superbowl, so why continue with this. We all knew Wade Phillips and Garret were garbage, but we have to put up with another garbage year with them at the helm, LET'S MOVE ON!
 
Well the haters are out in full force now, gotta love being a Cowboy fan!

Another good game by the defense. Clamped down on the Bronco's offense most of the game, but were really hung out to dry in that mile high air by the ineptitude of the offense after the 1st quarter. Marshall made a great play (as an elite talent will do) and Moreno started to get it going late in the game (BTW, he is going to be VERY good in this league as he continues to get into a groove after losing time with the holdout and injury). But outside of a gift at the 6 yd line, they held Denver to 10 pts, you can't ask for much more out of an NFL defense.

Romo haters are loving this, as his throws were definitely off in this game, but what stood out to me was how many plays he had FOREVER to throw and NO ONE was open. Where are the safety valves?? The WRs are an awesomely average bunch, Garrett needs to figure out how to move the ball consistently when he doesn't have a full complement of RBs (Barber is a warrior, but he had an obvious hitch in his gallop, Choice should have stayed in and been handed the ball 20+ times).

As is, I think we are looking at another 9-7 maybe 8-8 season. Wade is not going anywhere (this year) and is doing a good job with the defense. The only move I could see making an impact is firing or demoting Garrett and putting Sherman in charge of the offense. He has been there before and had success. It will not happen, but if Jerry did make that switch, I think this team could be get 10/11 wins, get in the playoffs and be a tuff out for anyone they play.

 
Nothing worse than fair weather fans or non fans in a fan thread.
Nothing worse than fans who accept mediocrity. Woopdie do, they MIGHT, make the playoffs, IF THEY ARE LUCKY. Then what? You really think these idiot coaches and Romo are capable of winning a big game? UH NO, THEY HAVE PROVEN THAT OVER AND OVER AGAIN!I don't give a damn about winning the wildcard, winning the division, or even making it to the NFC finals. IT ALL MEANS NOTHING! The teams that celebrate such worthless accomplishments are losers like the Cleveland Browns. A true fan doesnt stand for this. As far as im concerned, fire everybody now and start the rebuilding process immediately. This team doesnt have what it takes to win a superbowl, so why continue with this. We all knew Wade Phillips and Garret were garbage, but we have to put up with another garbage year with them at the helm, LET'S MOVE ON!
Calm down, Francis. I don't think people are accepting mediocrity. They just don't lose their mind after 4 games. Many teams have bounced back from poor starts to finish strong. I'd rather struggle now and finish strong, then start fast for the 3rd year in a row, only to flame out in December. They are missing TO, and trying to work the young rec's in the mix. No reason to lose it or cry that the sky is falling.

 
horadadude said:
Texasmouth said:
horadadude said:
riot_208 said:
if felix is on field on those last 2 plays we have much better chance to have tied that game. Simple that Def. would have had to respect his quikness on edges. this is basic. but just like when welker is not on field, Brady struggles more:}
I love how all the Boys fans talk about the difference maker - Felix Jones - what has this guy done except for gettting hurt. Romo is useless and not a franchise QB.
Why come in here just to start crap? Do we come to your work and knock the corndogs out of your hand?
C Mon dude - the corndog comment was uncalled for. I am stating the obvious. It is an open forum. I respect you for what you are doing.
Actually, you are clearly missing the impact Jones has on the team. What has he done other than get hurt? Why don't you bother to look before asking a question like that, You got a snarky reply, because you made a stupid comment.
I watch the games the same as you - just rooting for the other team. I dont see the magic with Felix Jones. You are a typical Boys fan with blinders on, just like you all were the last 4 years or so with Romo and now you all are turning. It will happen too with Felix - you will see.
 
I watch the games the same as you - just rooting for the other team. I dont see the magic with Felix Jones. You are a typical Boys fan with blinders on, just like you all were the last 4 years or so with Romo and now you all are turning. It will happen too with Felix - you will see.
:rolleyes: :shock: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: You CLEARLY have NO IDEA what you're talking about.

 
I watch the games the same as you - just rooting for the other team. I dont see the magic with Felix Jones. You are a typical Boys fan with blinders on, just like you all were the last 4 years or so with Romo and now you all are turning. It will happen too with Felix - you will see.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: You CLEARLY have NO IDEA what you're talking about.
Switz - Great reply. The season will tell us everything we need. 2-2 and no offense. I know - its all TO's fault. Once Felix is back - everything well be back to normal - 13 years and counting - w/ no playoff wins. I dont know what I am talking about right? :shrug:
 
I watch the games the same as you - just rooting for the other team. I dont see the magic with Felix Jones. You are a typical Boys fan with blinders on, just like you all were the last 4 years or so with Romo and now you all are turning. It will happen too with Felix - you will see.
:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: You CLEARLY have NO IDEA what you're talking about.
Switz - Great reply. The season will tell us everything we need. 2-2 and no offense. I know - its all TO's fault. Once Felix is back - everything well be back to normal - 13 years and counting - w/ no playoff wins. I dont know what I am talking about right? :angry:
No, you don't. You assume everyone who think A Cowboys player is good, MUST BE a Cowboys fan. That's simply not true.In fact, that stance implies that you are biased against the Cowboys, which is why you refuse to see any good in any Cowboys player. And you're writing that you watch the games but root for the other team shows you are anti-Cowboys. So frankly, no, you don't know what you are talking about.

Anyone with half a lick of football sense can see Felix is a special player. They can also see that the Cowboys could easily be 4-0, just as they are 2-2. I'm NOT a Cowboys fan (Colts fan as MOST people on these boards know) and I can see those two points. The fact you can't says much.

 
riot_208 said:
I agree that playcalling and WR's are average but I do believe that the Key to this whole year lies with The Health of Felix jones. We can have balance on Offense with Either Barber or choice , but nither of them have the consistant game breaking ability of Felix. He makes the Other teams Def coor. pick his poison. Play the pass heavy or run? when he's on the field the average wr's seem more open because they are but when he's not they are not huge playmaker's so offense will look shaky. when there all out there, very hard to beat this team. you will see and then you can tell me I was right
If your season/team relies on a part time player with a very high tendency to get hurt.....you might have a problem. He helps, but come on.
Colts and Bob Sanders, Eagles and McNabb, etc. etc. etc.Felix had one injury last season that caused him to miss time. The trainers worsened it.

Felix has had one injury this season that's caused him to miss time. Hopefully the trainers don't worsen it.

He's pretty new to the league, we'll see if he has a "very high tendency" to get injured... we don't know yet. Right now, Barber has had more injuries this and last season than Jones. Does he have a "very high tendency" to get injured as well?
And their backups come in a do a good job till they return. Bullit, Kolb, etc. etc. It doesn't shut down the offense. The original poster has the WHOLE OFFENSE riding on one guy in an RBBC with Choice as a third even gettting carries. To me, just my opinion, that's not logical.Two seasons, two injuries. A trend is forming. Yes, Barber has a high tendency to get injured. If odds were made of him playing all 16 games before the season it would have been an easy bet against it. Felix too.

 
I'm actually enjoying this season alot more than the past few years. I came in with 0 expectations, knowing full well the team has 0 chance with the coaching staff they have, and Romo who is a proven choke artist in all aspects of life. So I watch the games completely relaxed, ah maybe we win this one! Ah shoots! we lost again! O WELL! Better luck next time fellas! Maybe we can take it to them pesky Kansas City Chiefs!! Gonna be a real NAIL BITER!

It's alot better than the past couple years coming in as the odds on favorite to win the superbowl and not even making the playoffs, now that's rough.

We knew they sucked and had 0 chance, so why worry about it right? Watch it for what it is, a gambling sport and entertainment. Move on with our lives.

 
my takes from the game:

1. the Denver D did a good job pressuring Romo/Cowboys O-line did not pass block well.

2. Romo never got a rhythm, looked "off".

3. Keith Brooking is still pretty good. A.Spencer CATCH THE BALL! Jenkins looks good.

4. the 'Boys D played well, minus the big play to Marshall.

5. Choice continues to run well. love his vision! MB is the BARBARIAN!!!

6. overall, not impressive. i'm not sure how much of the offense sucking was due to the offense actually sucking or the denver D outplaying them.

would having TO out there have helped? im not sure, but our passing game was PATHETIC yesterday.

 
Nothing worse than fair weather fans or non fans in a fan thread.
Where is Tinker Bell this year?
Not to worry, GB. I get my only joy this season through schadenfreude with the Cowboys. BTW, you ready for the showdown on 11/22? ool
well that explains a lot of things
Here's a hint: If you see a handle you don't know and they sound a lot smarter than you, it's probably me. Actually, I probably ought to narrow that down a bit . . .
 
texasheat said:
Coach Joe made what I thought was an interesting observation on the post game show that made sense and frustrated me at the same time. Paraphrasing "Jason Garrett is trimming the game plan significantly in an attempt to keep Romo in check as far as turnovers go. But at the same time it's crippling his big play ability." They need to hand him the reigns and live and die by his big plays. They aren't good enough to let him be a "bus driver" and still beat decent teams.
They don't have the wideouts to run a vanilla scheme.
 
The Cowboys misses Terell Owens yesterday. I don't think the pass protection was bad, I think the Wr's weren't getting open and Romo couldn't find any open receivers.

On the few plays that receivers were open, Romo was not throwing the ball well. I also think there are some opportunities for Romo to get some yards with his feet and he's not taking it.

Not having a deep threat hurt Dallas. I don't know what Dallas was doing with Witten yesterday, but it was not the right thing. I didn't see him downfield enough.

Losing that game made me sick.

 
The Cowboys dont miss the TO we would have had this year. Buffalo is really enjoying the fruits of the TO experiment.

It was a horrible loss, bottom line. Especially at the goal line with a chance to win.

 
With Roy Williams perhaps out a few weeks and none of the WR's appearing to be viable anyway is it time to look at Matt Jones again? If not him then it's time to bring in someone ... anyone. Hurd and Crayton is laughable ... Miles Austin is what he is and it's a low end reserve. I'm not sure why Bennett isn't getting more looks ... perhaps they're keeping TE's in to help Flozell as a 6th OL the TV doesn't always show. They need atleast SOMETHING else viable to free up Witten or this will be a VERY poor offense.

 
With Roy Williams perhaps out a few weeks and none of the WR's appearing to be viable anyway is it time to look at Matt Jones again? If not him then it's time to bring in someone ... anyone. Hurd and Crayton is laughable ... Miles Austin is what he is and it's a low end reserve. I'm not sure why Bennett isn't getting more looks ... perhaps they're keeping TE's in to help Flozell as a 6th OL the TV doesn't always show. They need atleast SOMETHING else viable to free up Witten or this will be a VERY poor offense.
notime to give up and play for the uncapped year under gruden or cowher.
 
I watch the games the same as you - just rooting for the other team. I dont see the magic with Felix Jones. You are a typical Boys fan with blinders on, just like you all were the last 4 years or so with Romo and now you all are turning. It will happen too with Felix - you will see.
:X :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: :lmao: You CLEARLY have NO IDEA what you're talking about.
Switz - Great reply. The season will tell us everything we need. 2-2 and no offense. I know - its all TO's fault. Once Felix is back - everything well be back to normal - 13 years and counting - w/ no playoff wins. I dont know what I am talking about right? ;)
No, you don't. You assume everyone who think A Cowboys player is good, MUST BE a Cowboys fan. That's simply not true.In fact, that stance implies that you are biased against the Cowboys, which is why you refuse to see any good in any Cowboys player. And you're writing that you watch the games but root for the other team shows you are anti-Cowboys. So frankly, no, you don't know what you are talking about.

Anyone with half a lick of football sense can see Felix is a special player. They can also see that the Cowboys could easily be 4-0, just as they are 2-2. I'm NOT a Cowboys fan (Colts fan as MOST people on these boards know) and I can see those two points. The fact you can't says much.
While I will agree with you that Felix's 10.2 ypc is impressive - the fact that he gets hurt and splits time with Barber makes me not want him on my FF team. Since that is what we all are here for. As for being biased against the Cowboys - you got me there - lets hold off on putting this guy in Canton until he plays in more than 8 games. A special player is somebody like Adrian Peterson - not Felix Jones.
 
The Cowboys misses Terell Owens yesterday. I don't think the pass protection was bad, I think the Wr's weren't getting open and Romo couldn't find any open receivers.

On the few plays that receivers were open, Romo was not throwing the ball well. I also think there are some opportunities for Romo to get some yards with his feet and he's not taking it.

Not having a deep threat hurt Dallas. I don't know what Dallas was doing with Witten yesterday, but it was not the right thing. I didn't see him downfield enough.

Losing that game made me sick.
i think that was the main problem. that, and the Denver D was pretty darn good.
 
Well let's see ... 2-2 and here's the rest of the schedule:

Sun, Oct 11 @ Kansas City

Sun, Oct 18 BYE

The bye comes at a good time ... should get Felix, Sensenbaugh, and Roy Williams back by then plus give Marion time to get fully healthy. Perhaps get our new off the street WR up to speed (wishful thinking).

Sun, Oct 25 ATLANTA

Sun, Nov 1 SEATTLE

Hass should get back but this isn't a defense that scares me and I just don't see their offense going off. KC could be a bit of a trap but if we do somehow lose then we atleast get rid of Wade perhaps in the 4th quarter. Otherwise I see a legit shot at 5-2 at this point. Newman on Roddy White and the defense should shut down Turner leaving Norwood and Tony G as the real threats. Their defense doesn't really scare me making this a winnable game.

Sun, Nov 8 @ Philadelphia

Tough one ... weather should be ok which helps ... we'll see how McNabb and Westbrook look. Their OL has been hurting but I'll say the Eagles win unless the Cowboys offense improves.

Sun, Nov 15 @ Green Bay

This game and the Chargers game will be shoot-outs. This becomes a key game to win and with their OL situation is indeed winnable.

Sun, Nov 22 WASHINGTON

Thurs, Nov 26 OAKLAND

I could see 8-3 here perhaps 7-4. There is no excuses to lose to either of these at home.

Sun, Dec 6 @ New York Giants

Sun, Dec 13 SAN DIEGO

Sat, Dec 19 @ New Orleans

Hard to see anything better than 8-6 by this point let's assume they win the shoot-out against the Chargers at home but lose the shoot-out against the Saints and of course lose to the Giants on the road.

Sun, Dec 27 @ Washington

Getting the team to 9ish wins here and setting up perhaps another play-in wild-card match this time in Dallas.

Sun, Jan 3 PHILADELPHIA

That said ... I could very easily see it going the other way and losing all road games after KC and only beating Wash and Oakland at home to finish at 5-11. That would atleast net us a strong LB, LT, or WR prospect if not a QB and of course a new coaching staff.

 
Are Cowboy fans finally willing to admit that releasing Owens was the death of this offense? Worst receiving corp in the league now and Romo isn't good enough to get it done with this group. The Cowboys need Owens. They aren't making the playoffs with that offense, which is a shame, because the D is actually playing fairly good ball...well until the game is on the line, of course.

 
Wow talk about an over reaction to one game. Prior to this game Dallas was leading the league in rushing and had a top 5 ranked offense. One bad game from Romo and the receivers and all of a sudden this Dallas offense is the worst in the league? Im not buying it. The season is long we are only 25% of the way through it, way to early to concede anything unless your buying that the last game was a must win because Bankerguy said so.

 
Are Cowboy fans finally willing to admit that releasing Owens was the death of this offense? Worst receiving corp in the league now and Romo isn't good enough to get it done with this group. The Cowboys need Owens. They aren't making the playoffs with that offense, which is a shame, because the D is actually playing fairly good ball...well until the game is on the line, of course.
I don't think anyone is arguing that Dallas doesnt need improved WR play and talent. Similarly, I'm not sure you're grasping the degree to which TO has declined. With the exception of the SF game last year, he was rather pedestrian all season. Its continuing in Buffalo this year.TO is no longer the answer in Dallas or anywhere else. Dallas was right to cut him and move on. Again, this is not to say that Roy Williams is the answer. He's clearly not. Nor is Crayton or Hurd or Austin.
 
WOW I am about as done with this coaching staff as anyone but lets be real for one sec. Dallas could easily be 4-0. Are they playing good, nope not at all. They lost by a last second field goal and a on a last second goal line stand. This team is not a Super Bowl contender because they do not know how to win a close game or have the killer instinct to put a team away when they have the lead. They will be in 90% of the games this year with a chance to win so far they are 1-2 in them type of games. At this rate I see a7-9 8-8 9-7 record. If by some act of God they start winning these close games they may get on a roll. I really just can't wait till they get Shanny Holmgren or Cower which I really doubt Cower. I really want Shanny as I have said all off season long. I really blame this 2-2 record on the coaching staff. Don't give up even if the likely hood is not good. Be a real fan.

 
Rotoworld suggests Gurode is going in for an MRI on his knee ... if we lose him that means our LT will no longer be our worst OL ... backup center is a bit scary too. Hope it's a 2 week deal ... we can beat the Chiefs without him but we need a healthy team to stand a chance down the stretch after the bye.

 
Teams with a worse receiving core IMO

Rams-Worst in the league

Raiders-Schilens looks promising but the rest isn't very good. They're young though so perhaps they'll turn into something.

49ers(without Crabtree)-Isaac Bruce is about as good of an old receiver as you can get but the depth afterwards isn't anything to write home about. Don't argue that Josh Morgan is a good WR, he's really not.

Dolphins-Ginn Jr. and Camarillo? Ooookay

Then I've got the Cowboys' WR, so they're obviously one of the worst but not THE worst in the league.

 
Teams with a worse receiving core IMO

Rams-Worst in the league Nope, Robinson is on IR but was good, Avery showed more promise as a rookie than any DAL WR rostered right now

Raiders-Schilens looks promising but the rest isn't very good. They're young though so perhaps they'll turn into something. Murphy, Higgins both have potential

49ers(without Crabtree)-Isaac Bruce is about as good of an old receiver as you can get but the depth afterwards isn't anything to write home about. Don't argue that Josh Morgan is a good WR, he's really not. Bruce at this age is still better than Roy

Dolphins-Ginn Jr. and Camarillo? Ooookay Bess has potential, and Ginn is on par with the Boys WRs

Then I've got the Cowboys' WR, so they're obviously one of the worst but not THE worst in the league.
They're pretty much tied for worst with the teams above. Only thing with Cowboys, is all those teams have one WR with potential to develop into a star. I don't think the Cowboys have that player.
 
Teams with a worse receiving core IMO

Rams-Worst in the league Nope, Robinson is on IR but was good, Avery showed more promise as a rookie than any DAL WR rostered right now

Raiders-Schilens looks promising but the rest isn't very good. They're young though so perhaps they'll turn into something. Murphy, Higgins both have potential

49ers(without Crabtree)-Isaac Bruce is about as good of an old receiver as you can get but the depth afterwards isn't anything to write home about. Don't argue that Josh Morgan is a good WR, he's really not. Bruce at this age is still better than Roy

Dolphins-Ginn Jr. and Camarillo? Ooookay Bess has potential, and Ginn is on par with the Boys WRs

Then I've got the Cowboys' WR, so they're obviously one of the worst but not THE worst in the league.
They're pretty much tied for worst with the teams above. Only thing with Cowboys, is all those teams have one WR with potential to develop into a star. I don't think the Cowboys have that player.
Might help if they ever actually drafted a WR.
 
Romo's stats for his last 21 Games, courtesy of JJT at the DMN.

Tony Romo's stat profile in his last 21 starts

Jean-Jacques Taylor/Columnist E-mail News tips

Since the Cowboys were 12-1, Romo hasn't quite been the same:

Wins: 12

Losses: 9

Completions: 435

Attempts: 719

Pct: 60.5

Yards: 5,297

Interceptions: 23

TDS: 33

Rating: 85.2

 
Teams with a worse receiving core IMO

Rams-Worst in the league Nope, Robinson is on IR but was good, Avery showed more promise as a rookie than any DAL WR rostered right now

Raiders-Schilens looks promising but the rest isn't very good. They're young though so perhaps they'll turn into something. Murphy, Higgins both have potential

49ers(without Crabtree)-Isaac Bruce is about as good of an old receiver as you can get but the depth afterwards isn't anything to write home about. Don't argue that Josh Morgan is a good WR, he's really not. Bruce at this age is still better than Roy

Dolphins-Ginn Jr. and Camarillo? Ooookay Bess has potential, and Ginn is on par with the Boys WRs

Then I've got the Cowboys' WR, so they're obviously one of the worst but not THE worst in the league.
They're pretty much tied for worst with the teams above. Only thing with Cowboys, is all those teams have one WR with potential to develop into a star. I don't think the Cowboys have that player.
I'm not sure why folks in a Cowboys thread are so reluctant to include the Redskins WR corps in this discussion. Cooley is comparable to Witten, and maybe Randle El is superior as a #3 slot guy, but Moss isn't a true #1 and I'm not seeing much more than perhaps potential with the rest of them.
 
Teams with a worse receiving core IMO

Rams-Worst in the league Nope, Robinson is on IR but was good, Avery showed more promise as a rookie than any DAL WR rostered right now

Raiders-Schilens looks promising but the rest isn't very good. They're young though so perhaps they'll turn into something. Murphy, Higgins both have potential

49ers(without Crabtree)-Isaac Bruce is about as good of an old receiver as you can get but the depth afterwards isn't anything to write home about. Don't argue that Josh Morgan is a good WR, he's really not. Bruce at this age is still better than Roy

Dolphins-Ginn Jr. and Camarillo? Ooookay Bess has potential, and Ginn is on par with the Boys WRs

Then I've got the Cowboys' WR, so they're obviously one of the worst but not THE worst in the league.
They're pretty much tied for worst with the teams above. Only thing with Cowboys, is all those teams have one WR with potential to develop into a star. I don't think the Cowboys have that player.
It's debatable if all teams have a receiver that will develop into a star. My argument isn't that the Cowboys have even a GOOD WR core but it's not the worst in the league. I hate Roy Williams(always have, I'm an Aggie :shock: ) and would much rather the Cowboys trade 3 picks for an Anquan Boldin if the Cardinals would've been open to the trade with his contract rumblings. They need talent at the WR position definitely, all I can hope is they make it a priority.
I'm not sure why folks in a Cowboys thread are so reluctant to include the Redskins WR corps in this discussion. Cooley is comparable to Witten, and maybe Randle El is superior as a #3 slot guy, but Moss isn't a true #1 and I'm not seeing much more than perhaps potential with the rest of them.
I see your point on the Redskins but I didn't include TEs in the equation, just WRs. The Cowboys wouldn't be one of the worst in the league if you add TEs, they have plenty of talent there.
 
Teams with a worse receiving core IMO

Rams-Worst in the league Nope, Robinson is on IR but was good, Avery showed more promise as a rookie than any DAL WR rostered right now

Raiders-Schilens looks promising but the rest isn't very good. They're young though so perhaps they'll turn into something. Murphy, Higgins both have potential

49ers(without Crabtree)-Isaac Bruce is about as good of an old receiver as you can get but the depth afterwards isn't anything to write home about. Don't argue that Josh Morgan is a good WR, he's really not. Bruce at this age is still better than Roy

Dolphins-Ginn Jr. and Camarillo? Ooookay Bess has potential, and Ginn is on par with the Boys WRs

Then I've got the Cowboys' WR, so they're obviously one of the worst but not THE worst in the league.
They're pretty much tied for worst with the teams above. Only thing with Cowboys, is all those teams have one WR with potential to develop into a star. I don't think the Cowboys have that player.
I'm not sure why folks in a Cowboys thread are so reluctant to include the Redskins WR corps in this discussion. Cooley is comparable to Witten, and maybe Randle El is superior as a #3 slot guy, but Moss isn't a true #1 and I'm not seeing much more than perhaps potential with the rest of them.
I was going to add the skins and the Titans.One could argue that at least Santana Moss has show the ability to be a Steve Smith of Carolina type if given the touches. Or if he gets to go up against Roy Williams the safety.

 
Are Cowboy fans finally willing to admit that releasing Owens was the death of this offense? Worst receiving corp in the league now and Romo isn't good enough to get it done with this group. The Cowboys need Owens. They aren't making the playoffs with that offense, which is a shame, because the D is actually playing fairly good ball...well until the game is on the line, of course.
This is a good one. For three years non-Cowboy fans have been arguing how TO is a cancer and is hurting the team while Cowboy fans have strongly defended him. Now that he is cut and the passing game has struggled the non Cowboy fan is claiming he won this argument. To me it looks like the Cowboy fan has been right all along.And I am not a Cowboy fan; I just call them like I see them.

 
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Teams with a worse receiving core IMO

Rams-Worst in the league Nope, Robinson is on IR but was good, Avery showed more promise as a rookie than any DAL WR rostered right now

Raiders-Schilens looks promising but the rest isn't very good. They're young though so perhaps they'll turn into something. Murphy, Higgins both have potential

49ers(without Crabtree)-Isaac Bruce is about as good of an old receiver as you can get but the depth afterwards isn't anything to write home about. Don't argue that Josh Morgan is a good WR, he's really not. Bruce at this age is still better than Roy

Dolphins-Ginn Jr. and Camarillo? Ooookay Bess has potential, and Ginn is on par with the Boys WRs

Then I've got the Cowboys' WR, so they're obviously one of the worst but not THE worst in the league.
They're pretty much tied for worst with the teams above. Only thing with Cowboys, is all those teams have one WR with potential to develop into a star. I don't think the Cowboys have that player.
I'm not sure why folks in a Cowboys thread are so reluctant to include the Redskins WR corps in this discussion. Cooley is comparable to Witten, and maybe Randle El is superior as a #3 slot guy, but Moss isn't a true #1 and I'm not seeing much more than perhaps potential with the rest of them.
I was going to add the skins and the Titans.One could argue that at least Santana Moss has show the ability to be a Steve Smith of Carolina type if given the touches. Or if he gets to go up against Roy Williams the safety.
Moss is a 1A. While similar to Smith in terms of size and explosiveness, he can be shut down and can't create his own opportunities. He's also had problems with drops at times. Moss should be a #2, which he could thrive at, or at least have a solid, larger WR opposite him, but unless Kelly pans out that will never happen. So in other words, he's no Steve Smith.

 
Lets add this to the discussion. The cowboys cut the following players tomorrow and by miracle the NFL loses their paperwork and allows them to be signed at the veteran minimum. Who of this list gets a job on another team?

Hurd, Samuel

Austin, Miles

Ogletree, Kevin

Crayton, Patrick

I think Crayton probably does get picked up by somebody. I think the rest of the three are bagging groceries.

The other question is if Roy went on the market as an UFA what would his offer be? Would he even get 2 for 5?

 
Ridgelake said:
Are Cowboy fans finally willing to admit that releasing Owens was the death of this offense? Worst receiving corp in the league now and Romo isn't good enough to get it done with this group. The Cowboys need Owens. They aren't making the playoffs with that offense, which is a shame, because the D is actually playing fairly good ball...well until the game is on the line, of course.
I don't think anyone is arguing that Dallas doesnt need improved WR play and talent. Similarly, I'm not sure you're grasping the degree to which TO has declined. With the exception of the SF game last year, he was rather pedestrian all season. Its continuing in Buffalo this year.TO is no longer the answer in Dallas or anywhere else. Dallas was right to cut him and move on. Again, this is not to say that Roy Williams is the answer. He's clearly not. Nor is Crayton or Hurd or Austin.
THIS
 
culdeus said:
Lets add this to the discussion. The cowboys cut the following players tomorrow and by miracle the NFL loses their paperwork and allows them to be signed at the veteran minimum. Who of this list gets a job on another team?Hurd, SamuelAustin, MilesOgletree, KevinCrayton, PatrickI think Crayton probably does get picked up by somebody. I think the rest of the three are bagging groceries. The other question is if Roy went on the market as an UFA what would his offer be? Would he even get 2 for 5?
Pretty sure Austin gets picked up by somebody considering he was offered a contract in the offseason.
 
There are now some stories and pics making the rounds that Romo did not know the down on the last play of the game. I saw pics with him holding up 3 fingers after the play and then showing frustration immediately after.

 
More picture fun.

I would put out a $50000 bounty on Manning next time we play him.

BY Eric Kreindler // Friday Oct 2, 2009 at 06:23 CDT

A NBCDFW.COM user forwarded an image purportedly showing Giants' quarterback Eli Manning's victory signature after the team defeated the Cowboys in Arlington on Sept. 20.

"See the picture of a concrete column in the visitor locker room in the new Cowboys stadium," the NBCDFW.com user wrote. "I heard the locker room was spat on and had many used jock straps hanging from the mirrors and other places too. What class."

The Cowboys have not responded to our questions on the authenticity of this message or information about the condition of the visitors' locker room after the Giants 33-31 victory, the first regular season game in the Cowboys new stadium.

We looked around and checked the photo with recent Manning autographs and to the untrained eye, the signature appears to be real, but we know there are many ways to adjust photographs in the digital age.

Anyway, with no real confirmation, it is out there and up to you to decide.

Edit-My link won't work to the picture.

For those on the Zone-check it out there.

 
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There are now some stories and pics making the rounds that Romo did not know the down on the last play of the game. I saw pics with him holding up 3 fingers after the play and then showing frustration immediately after.
Don't blame him. It's not his fault. Tony just has trouble counting past two.
 
There are now some stories and pics making the rounds that Romo did not know the down on the last play of the game. I saw pics with him holding up 3 fingers after the play and then showing frustration immediately after.
poorly prepared teams have poorly prepared players who make poor plays and poor decisions. This is a poorly prepared team run by terrible coaches. The best thing that could happen at this point is a loss to KC this weekend forcing jerry to finally fire these losers. This team WILL NOT! get better, until the entire staff is fired and they start new. Bring in Cowher, bring in Shanahan, I do not care, BRING IN ANYTHING! Any good coach could win a superbowl with this collection of talent. True fans stop lieing to themselves and hoping for worthless victories when the end result is another FAILURE! and anything less than a superbowl is a FAILURE! This is the Dallas Cowboys, superbowls only thing that matter, not making the playoffs, or winning the stupud division, WHO CARES! SUPERBOWLS ALL THAT MATTER!!!!!!!! FIRE THE STAFF! FIRE THEM ALL! FIRE THEM ALL NOW!!!! WE WILL NEVER WIN WITH THIS COLLECTION OF SUCK COACHING STAFF!!!
 

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