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one of my best friends has a political science degree. it really opened the door to owning a landscaping company :thumbup:
There are a lot of us with poli sci degrees. Most of us are called "lawyers."
Works out great if they actually finish law school. Numbers tell me "most" don't.
Most who attend law school do actually finish. Would you prefer another moniker like "a good chunk of us are called lawyers"
I'd prefer "most of us don't know what the word 'moniker' means."

 
And my paychecks are $470 every two weeksw. Apartments cost $550 a month.

Gas and insurance is $120 a month.

Groceries cost $150 a month.

You do the math.

God forbid my car breakdown.
You're exactly the type of person who shouldn't be allowed to vote.

 
one of my best friends has a political science degree. it really opened the door to owning a landscaping company :thumbup:
There are a lot of us with poli sci degrees. Most of us are called "lawyers."
Works out great if they actually finish law school. Numbers tell me "most" don't.
Most who attend law school do actually finish. Would you prefer another moniker like "a good chunk of us are called lawyers"
I'd prefer "most of us don't know what the word 'moniker' means."
Yeah that wasn't quite the word I was looking for. Thought it sounded smart, though. I'm sure the OP thinks I'm brilliant.

 
And my paychecks are $470 every two weeksw. Apartments cost $550 a month.

Gas and insurance is $120 a month.

Groceries cost $150 a month.

You do the math.

God forbid my car breakdown.
Oooof....i remember those days in college......Good luck man, an accounting degree will open a lot of doors for you. Quit that job, go work as a bartender or waiter and make double. Follow my path - finish school with a good GPA. Start working at a big accounting firm, get a CPA then quit in 4-5 years where you will go into corporate or in business for yourself. Watch the $470 paycheck turn into $5K paychecks quickly once you actually have relevant work experience. Then once you get older watch those 5K pay checks turn into $10K while you are on cruise control. Start posting on random message boards and enjoying life.

 
How's the bulk ing up going?

Get another job, the guy at Walgreens is a goober.

Don't do hard drugs, they are bad.

 
Eminence said:
And my paychecks are $470 every two weeksw. Apartments cost $550 a month.

Gas and insurance is $120 a month.

Groceries cost $150 a month.

You do the math.

God forbid my car breakdown.
sbonomo said:
Eminence said:
And my paychecks are $470 every two weeksw. Apartments cost $550 a month.

Gas and insurance is $120 a month.

Groceries cost $150 a month.

You do the math.

God forbid my car breakdown.
Oooof....i remember those days in college......Good luck man, an accounting degree will open a lot of doors for you. Quit that job, go work as a bartender or waiter and make double. Follow my path - finish school with a good GPA. Start working at a big accounting firm, get a CPA then quit in 4-5 years where you will go into corporate or in business for yourself. Watch the $470 paycheck turn into $5K paychecks quickly once you actually have relevant work experience. Then once you get older watch those 5K pay checks turn into $10K while you are on cruise control. Start posting on random message boards and enjoying life.
God I miss those days. No responsibilities. No car though. I'd rather spend that 120 on beer and weed.

 
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Go across the street to CVS and see what they are offering. Then try Rite Aid. Go back to Walgreens to see if they can beat the best offer. Fire up a bidding war for your services and you'll be rolling in quarters by 2014.

 
I made good money as a caddy when I was 15. Maybe try that. Go to a high-end club -- the members will be captains of industry who can give you pointers, like how the world needs ditch-diggers too.

 
Seriously though, at your age, the level you're at, one of the top criteria when choosing a place to work is how much ### you can get. A crappy supervisor and low wages are a lot more tolerable when you're swimming in poon. I can't stress that enough.

Here's one -- I've noticed here in GA that the best little independent pizza shops always have early 20-somethings working the kitchen and behind the counter. Really cool chicks too, the partying type. Many lean toward the hippie persuasion, hell, most of them are probably stoned on the job. Find a girl with a big rack and a nose ring who goes to Phish shows and likes ecstasy....dude! You're not allowed to complain about your life again until you're at least 40, mkay?

 
Seriously though, at your age, the level you're at, one of the top criteria when choosing a place to work is how much ### you can get. A crappy supervisor and low wages are a lot more tolerable when you're swimming in poon. I can't stress that enough.

Here's one -- I've noticed here in GA that the best little independent pizza shops always have early 20-somethings working the kitchen and behind the counter. Really cool chicks too, the partying type. Many lean toward the hippie persuasion, hell, most of them are probably stoned on the job. Find a girl with a big rack and a nose ring who goes to Phish shows and likes ecstasy....dude! You're not allowed to complain about your life again until you're at least 40, mkay?
I have never been able to attract women based on my magnetic personality. Much more effective and efficient just to buy them, fwiw.

 
Seriously though, at your age, the level you're at, one of the top criteria when choosing a place to work is how much ### you can get. A crappy supervisor and low wages are a lot more tolerable when you're swimming in poon. I can't stress that enough.

Here's one -- I've noticed here in GA that the best little independent pizza shops always have early 20-somethings working the kitchen and behind the counter. Really cool chicks too, the partying type. Many lean toward the hippie persuasion, hell, most of them are probably stoned on the job. Find a girl with a big rack and a nose ring who goes to Phish shows and likes ecstasy....dude! You're not allowed to complain about your life again until you're at least 40, mkay?
I have never been able to attract women based on my magnetic personality. Much more effective and efficient just to buy them, fwiw.
Some things cannot be bought. :)
 
Seriously though, at your age, the level you're at, one of the top criteria when choosing a place to work is how much ### you can get. A crappy supervisor and low wages are a lot more tolerable when you're swimming in poon. I can't stress that enough.

Here's one -- I've noticed here in GA that the best little independent pizza shops always have early 20-somethings working the kitchen and behind the counter. Really cool chicks too, the partying type. Many lean toward the hippie persuasion, hell, most of them are probably stoned on the job. Find a girl with a big rack and a nose ring who goes to Phish shows and likes ecstasy....dude! You're not allowed to complain about your life again until you're at least 40, mkay?
I have never been able to attract women based on my magnetic personality. Much more effective and efficient just to buy them, fwiw.
Some things cannot be bought. :)
That's what I was told, verbatim, when my well-connected Chinese lady friend (whom FBGs here unanimously said was ugly, even though she could make any husband a fully kept man), ordered 2kg of longjing cha (Longjing, or Dragon Well, tea) to be delivered to us overnight in Hangzhou by courier directly from Shanghai... the top-shelf stuff that no one but communist party members can get.

Aside from that kind of situation, I'm not so sure.

 
That's what I was told, verbatim, when my well-connected Chinese lady friend (whom FBGs here unanimously said was ugly, even though she could make any husband a fully kept man), ordered 2kg of longjing cha (Longjing, or Dragon Well, tea) to be delivered to us overnight in Hangzhou by courier directly from Shanghai... the top-shelf stuff that no one but communist party members can get.

Aside from that kind of situation, I'm not so sure.
:excited: You can get good Dragon Well tea?!

 
"You wait and see, Mr. Caruthers. I will be mayor; I'll be the most powerful man in Hill Valley and I'm gonna' clean up this town!"

 
That's what I was told, verbatim, when my well-connected Chinese lady friend (whom FBGs here unanimously said was ugly, even though she could make any husband a fully kept man), ordered 2kg of longjing cha (Longjing, or Dragon Well, tea) to be delivered to us overnight in Hangzhou by courier directly from Shanghai... the top-shelf stuff that no one but communist party members can get.

Aside from that kind of situation, I'm not so sure.
:excited: You can get good Dragon Well tea?!
Youbetcha. Every time I go to China we go straight to the farm in Hangzhou. But even they have to sell their very best first pick to the Communist Party. After that... it's a free-for-all. Go straight to the farm and you can bargain up a storm.... get a much, much better price than at the officially sanctioned Communist Party stores, which is where the tourist guides will take you. But the stuff my friend got us, we couldn't even get from the farm because it's the very first picking and goes straight to the higher-ups in the Communist Party. Not available in stores at all, evah.

 
Seriously though, at your age, the level you're at, one of the top criteria when choosing a place to work is how much ### you can get. A crappy supervisor and low wages are a lot more tolerable when you're swimming in poon. I can't stress that enough.

Here's one -- I've noticed here in GA that the best little independent pizza shops always have early 20-somethings working the kitchen and behind the counter. Really cool chicks too, the partying type. Many lean toward the hippie persuasion, hell, most of them are probably stoned on the job. Find a girl with a big rack and a nose ring who goes to Phish shows and likes ecstasy....dude! You're not allowed to complain about your life again until you're at least 40, mkay?
I have never been able to attract women based on my magnetic personality. Much more effective and efficient just to buy them, fwiw.
Some things cannot be bought. :)
That's what I was told, verbatim, when my well-connected Chinese lady friend (whom FBGs here unanimously said was ugly, even though she could make any husband a fully kept man), ordered 2kg of longjing cha (Longjing, or Dragon Well, tea) to be delivered to us overnight in Hangzhou by courier directly from Shanghai... the top-shelf stuff that no one but communist party members can get. Aside from that kind of situation, I'm not so sure.
Well I was saying anyone can buy some poon, or a foreign bride who does what she's told...I'm talking about being young and living in a little apartment, meeting some hot chick through work, the rush that comes from that first smile and flirt, through the first kiss and fast forward to 7AM the next morning, you've got a sore ####, neither of you have slept all night, she's got her head on your chest and you're talking about the best place to go get pancakes because you're both starving but then again neither of you feel like moving from that spot. Ever.The woman in that pic you posted really was hideous btw. And I've slammed some pigs in my day.

 
That's what I was told, verbatim, when my well-connected Chinese lady friend (whom FBGs here unanimously said was ugly, even though she could make any husband a fully kept man), ordered 2kg of longjing cha (Longjing, or Dragon Well, tea) to be delivered to us overnight in Hangzhou by courier directly from Shanghai... the top-shelf stuff that no one but communist party members can get.
She was quite ugly.

 
That's what I was told, verbatim, when my well-connected Chinese lady friend (whom FBGs here unanimously said was ugly, even though she could make any husband a fully kept man), ordered 2kg of longjing cha (Longjing, or Dragon Well, tea) to be delivered to us overnight in Hangzhou by courier directly from Shanghai... the top-shelf stuff that no one but communist party members can get.
She was quite ugly.
In person she was quite cute, I thought. Many Chinese aren't very photogenic. But she was the typical 5'0" 105# Chinese girl who will do whatever she has to do to please you. What's so ugly about that?

ETA: Did I mention if you marry her, you don't have to work again? And, fwiw, she hooked me up with a really sweet deal at the provincial level that made me some serious, serious coin, even at the FBG level. And she's fed up with Chinese men who tend to always have a "Xiao san" or girlfriend (but Xiao san really means more like a second wife). She wants to find a good American husband, and her Engrish is good, fwiw, even though she has never left China. Anyhow... think about it... this girl is going to look much, much better at 50 than 95% of American women.

 
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That's what I was told, verbatim, when my well-connected Chinese lady friend (whom FBGs here unanimously said was ugly, even though she could make any husband a fully kept man), ordered 2kg of longjing cha (Longjing, or Dragon Well, tea) to be delivered to us overnight in Hangzhou by courier directly from Shanghai... the top-shelf stuff that no one but communist party members can get.
She was quite ugly.
In person she was quite cute, I thought. Many Chinese aren't very photogenic. But she was the typical 5'0" 105# Chinese girl who will do whatever she has to do to please you. What's so ugly about that?
I haven't seen the photo, but I'm going to guess that it is probably her face.

 
That's what I was told, verbatim, when my well-connected Chinese lady friend (whom FBGs here unanimously said was ugly, even though she could make any husband a fully kept man), ordered 2kg of longjing cha (Longjing, or Dragon Well, tea) to be delivered to us overnight in Hangzhou by courier directly from Shanghai... the top-shelf stuff that no one but communist party members can get.
She was quite ugly.
In person she was quite cute, I thought. Many Chinese aren't very photogenic. But she was the typical 5'0" 105# Chinese girl who will do whatever she has to do to please you. What's so ugly about that?
I haven't seen the photo, but I'm going to guess that it is probably her face.
I can appreciate a good body... always have been a "leg man".

 
Drifter said:
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Let me guess, poli sci degree?
What's wrong with Poli Sci? Certainly, no worse than any other BA and in fact if you do it write has more opportunity for learning things like statistics and critical thinking than many BA degrees.
Touche. I'm not known for proofreading when posting from work (which I'm able to do because I am not making $8 hour working retail).
No excuse is good enough for that mistake.

 
That's what I was told, verbatim, when my well-connected Chinese lady friend (whom FBGs here unanimously said was ugly, even though she could make any husband a fully kept man), ordered 2kg of longjing cha (Longjing, or Dragon Well, tea) to be delivered to us overnight in Hangzhou by courier directly from Shanghai... the top-shelf stuff that no one but communist party members can get.
She was quite ugly.
In person she was quite cute, I thought. Many Chinese aren't very photogenic. But she was the typical 5'0" 105# Chinese girl who will do whatever she has to do to please you. What's so ugly about that?
Sounds like my dog, she's really obedient and likes to do a little victory lap around the coffee table after she fetches the antler. Why does every thread inevitably become about Chinese women for sale

 
That's what I was told, verbatim, when my well-connected Chinese lady friend (whom FBGs here unanimously said was ugly, even though she could make any husband a fully kept man), ordered 2kg of longjing cha (Longjing, or Dragon Well, tea) to be delivered to us overnight in Hangzhou by courier directly from Shanghai... the top-shelf stuff that no one but communist party members can get.

Aside from that kind of situation, I'm not so sure.
:excited: You can get good Dragon Well tea?!
Youbetcha. Every time I go to China we go straight to the farm in Hangzhou. But even they have to sell their very best first pick to the Communist Party. After that... it's a free-for-all. Go straight to the farm and you can bargain up a storm.... get a much, much better price than at the officially sanctioned Communist Party stores, which is where the tourist guides will take you. But the stuff my friend got us, we couldn't even get from the farm because it's the very first picking and goes straight to the higher-ups in the Communist Party. Not available in stores at all, evah.
I bought some DW from a tea farm at the foot of Lion Peak mountain. In was in April and 2 old ladies brought out a small amount of tea they have left in a crumbled paper bag. It was excellent, with a tiniest hint of nutty flavor. I envy you your supplier.

 
That's what I was told, verbatim, when my well-connected Chinese lady friend (whom FBGs here unanimously said was ugly, even though she could make any husband a fully kept man), ordered 2kg of longjing cha (Longjing, or Dragon Well, tea) to be delivered to us overnight in Hangzhou by courier directly from Shanghai... the top-shelf stuff that no one but communist party members can get.
She was quite ugly.
In person she was quite cute, I thought. Many Chinese aren't very photogenic. But she was the typical 5'0" 105# Chinese girl who will do whatever she has to do to please you. What's so ugly about that?
Sounds like my dog, she's really obedient and likes to do a little victory lap around the coffee table after she fetches the antler.Why does every thread inevitably become about Chinese women for sale
Because you guys start asking questions in that direction, and I'm more than willing to answer. Plus, I put my money where my mouth is... I am thrilled to death with my Chinese wife, I know lots of other American men (through her connections) who are also thrilled to death with their Chinese wives. Any FBG who is love-starved and fed up with American women could do very well by being open-minded with respect to importing a Chinese wife.

 
That's what I was told, verbatim, when my well-connected Chinese lady friend (whom FBGs here unanimously said was ugly, even though she could make any husband a fully kept man), ordered 2kg of longjing cha (Longjing, or Dragon Well, tea) to be delivered to us overnight in Hangzhou by courier directly from Shanghai... the top-shelf stuff that no one but communist party members can get.
She was quite ugly.
In person she was quite cute, I thought. Many Chinese aren't very photogenic. But she was the typical 5'0" 105# Chinese girl who will do whatever she has to do to please you. What's so ugly about that?
Sounds like my dog, she's really obedient and likes to do a little victory lap around the coffee table after she fetches the antler.Why does every thread inevitably become about Chinese women for sale
Because you guys start asking questions in that direction, and I'm more than willing to answer. Plus, I put my money where my mouth is... I am thrilled to death with my Chinese wife, I know lots of other American men (through her connections) who are also thrilled to death with their Chinese wives. Any FBG who is love-starved and fed up with American women could do very well by being open-minded with respect to importing a Chinese wife.
How's her driving?

 
That's what I was told, verbatim, when my well-connected Chinese lady friend (whom FBGs here unanimously said was ugly, even though she could make any husband a fully kept man), ordered 2kg of longjing cha (Longjing, or Dragon Well, tea) to be delivered to us overnight in Hangzhou by courier directly from Shanghai... the top-shelf stuff that no one but communist party members can get.

Aside from that kind of situation, I'm not so sure.
:excited: You can get good Dragon Well tea?!
Youbetcha. Every time I go to China we go straight to the farm in Hangzhou. But even they have to sell their very best first pick to the Communist Party. After that... it's a free-for-all. Go straight to the farm and you can bargain up a storm.... get a much, much better price than at the officially sanctioned Communist Party stores, which is where the tourist guides will take you. But the stuff my friend got us, we couldn't even get from the farm because it's the very first picking and goes straight to the higher-ups in the Communist Party. Not available in stores at all, evah.
I bought some DW from a tea farm at the foot of Lion Peak mountain. In was in April and 2 old ladies brought out a small amount of tea they have left in a crumbled paper bag. It was excellent, with a tiniest hint of nutty flavor. I envy you your supplier.
No, no, no... you want to go to Hangzhou, to the tea farms near West Lake (Xi Hu). They won't bring out a small amount of tea. They will bring out whole trays of tea of varying quality.. you can ask them to brew any or all of it up for tasting. And you will have to bargain for the price, which will be much, much better than at any conventional store. Hangzhou is where you want to go... my favorite city in all of China so far. And that's where they grow the genuine lonjing cha. Outside of Hangzhou, anything called "longjing" could very well be some other variety of green tea that looks like longjing cha. You go to the farm and you can see the equipment they use to hand-cure the stuff.

 
Ball Son Urchin said:
Because you guys start asking questions in that direction, and I'm more than willing to answer. Plus, I put my money where my mouth is... I am thrilled to death with my Chinese wife, I know lots of other American men (through her connections) who are also thrilled to death with their Chinese wives. Any FBG who is love-starved and fed up with American women could do very well by being open-minded with respect to importing a Chinese wife.
Of course you know other men with Chinese wives, that's how you got to be in the club.
No, I got to be in the club through my Chinese wife who made the connections after arriving in the U.S.

 
That's what I was told, verbatim, when my well-connected Chinese lady friend (whom FBGs here unanimously said was ugly, even though she could make any husband a fully kept man), ordered 2kg of longjing cha (Longjing, or Dragon Well, tea) to be delivered to us overnight in Hangzhou by courier directly from Shanghai... the top-shelf stuff that no one but communist party members can get.
She was quite ugly.
In person she was quite cute, I thought. Many Chinese aren't very photogenic. But she was the typical 5'0" 105# Chinese girl who will do whatever she has to do to please you. What's so ugly about that?
Sounds like my dog, she's really obedient and likes to do a little victory lap around the coffee table after she fetches the antler.Why does every thread inevitably become about Chinese women for sale
Because you guys start asking questions in that direction, and I'm more than willing to answer. Plus, I put my money where my mouth is... I am thrilled to death with my Chinese wife, I know lots of other American men (through her connections) who are also thrilled to death with their Chinese wives. Any FBG who is love-starved and fed up with American women could do very well by being open-minded with respect to importing a Chinese wife.
How's her driving?
Let's just say the guy at the auto body repair shop knows us by name and cuts us a special deal when the claim is less than our deductible.

 
That's what I was told, verbatim, when my well-connected Chinese lady friend (whom FBGs here unanimously said was ugly, even though she could make any husband a fully kept man), ordered 2kg of longjing cha (Longjing, or Dragon Well, tea) to be delivered to us overnight in Hangzhou by courier directly from Shanghai... the top-shelf stuff that no one but communist party members can get.

Aside from that kind of situation, I'm not so sure.
:excited: You can get good Dragon Well tea?!
Youbetcha. Every time I go to China we go straight to the farm in Hangzhou. But even they have to sell their very best first pick to the Communist Party. After that... it's a free-for-all. Go straight to the farm and you can bargain up a storm.... get a much, much better price than at the officially sanctioned Communist Party stores, which is where the tourist guides will take you. But the stuff my friend got us, we couldn't even get from the farm because it's the very first picking and goes straight to the higher-ups in the Communist Party. Not available in stores at all, evah.
I bought some DW from a tea farm at the foot of Lion Peak mountain. In was in April and 2 old ladies brought out a small amount of tea they have left in a crumbled paper bag. It was excellent, with a tiniest hint of nutty flavor. I envy you your supplier.
No, no, no... you want to go to Hangzhou, to the tea farms near West Lake (Xi Hu). They won't bring out a small amount of tea. They will bring out whole trays of tea of varying quality.. you can ask them to brew any or all of it up for tasting. And you will have to bargain for the price, which will be much, much better than at any conventional store. Hangzhou is where you want to go... my favorite city in all of China so far. And that's where they grow the genuine lonjing cha. Outside of Hangzhou, anything called "longjing" could very well be some other variety of green tea that looks like longjing cha. You go to the farm and you can see the equipment they use to hand-cure the stuff.
Lion's Peak is in West Lake, Hangzhou. That is where they have the emperor's tea trees. But of course, my tea is not from those trees. :cry:

 
That's what I was told, verbatim, when my well-connected Chinese lady friend (whom FBGs here unanimously said was ugly, even though she could make any husband a fully kept man), ordered 2kg of longjing cha (Longjing, or Dragon Well, tea) to be delivered to us overnight in Hangzhou by courier directly from Shanghai... the top-shelf stuff that no one but communist party members can get.

Aside from that kind of situation, I'm not so sure.
:excited: You can get good Dragon Well tea?!
Youbetcha. Every time I go to China we go straight to the farm in Hangzhou. But even they have to sell their very best first pick to the Communist Party. After that... it's a free-for-all. Go straight to the farm and you can bargain up a storm.... get a much, much better price than at the officially sanctioned Communist Party stores, which is where the tourist guides will take you. But the stuff my friend got us, we couldn't even get from the farm because it's the very first picking and goes straight to the higher-ups in the Communist Party. Not available in stores at all, evah.
I bought some DW from a tea farm at the foot of Lion Peak mountain. In was in April and 2 old ladies brought out a small amount of tea they have left in a crumbled paper bag. It was excellent, with a tiniest hint of nutty flavor. I envy you your supplier.
No, no, no... you want to go to Hangzhou, to the tea farms near West Lake (Xi Hu). They won't bring out a small amount of tea. They will bring out whole trays of tea of varying quality.. you can ask them to brew any or all of it up for tasting. And you will have to bargain for the price, which will be much, much better than at any conventional store. Hangzhou is where you want to go... my favorite city in all of China so far. And that's where they grow the genuine lonjing cha. Outside of Hangzhou, anything called "longjing" could very well be some other variety of green tea that looks like longjing cha. You go to the farm and you can see the equipment they use to hand-cure the stuff.
Lion's Peak is in West Lake, Hangzhou. That is where they have the emperor's tea trees. But of course, my tea is not from those trees. :cry:
Still, as you probably know, there are many, many grades of tea. And, fwiw, the best TASTING is not always the most expensive or the highest graded. Very often, the tea's presentation - how it looks in the glass - is of equal importance to the actual taste. The first picking, for example, in a blind taste test, probably wouldn't come in first... but it would definitely come in first in how it looks in the glass. When we go to the farm, they usually cart out several grades of tea... the difference is most obvious just by looking at them, not by tasting.

 
That's what I was told, verbatim, when my well-connected Chinese lady friend (whom FBGs here unanimously said was ugly, even though she could make any husband a fully kept man), ordered 2kg of longjing cha (Longjing, or Dragon Well, tea) to be delivered to us overnight in Hangzhou by courier directly from Shanghai... the top-shelf stuff that no one but communist party members can get.

Aside from that kind of situation, I'm not so sure.
:excited: You can get good Dragon Well tea?!
Youbetcha. Every time I go to China we go straight to the farm in Hangzhou. But even they have to sell their very best first pick to the Communist Party. After that... it's a free-for-all. Go straight to the farm and you can bargain up a storm.... get a much, much better price than at the officially sanctioned Communist Party stores, which is where the tourist guides will take you. But the stuff my friend got us, we couldn't even get from the farm because it's the very first picking and goes straight to the higher-ups in the Communist Party. Not available in stores at all, evah.
I bought some DW from a tea farm at the foot of Lion Peak mountain. In was in April and 2 old ladies brought out a small amount of tea they have left in a crumbled paper bag. It was excellent, with a tiniest hint of nutty flavor. I envy you your supplier.
No, no, no... you want to go to Hangzhou, to the tea farms near West Lake (Xi Hu). They won't bring out a small amount of tea. They will bring out whole trays of tea of varying quality.. you can ask them to brew any or all of it up for tasting. And you will have to bargain for the price, which will be much, much better than at any conventional store. Hangzhou is where you want to go... my favorite city in all of China so far. And that's where they grow the genuine lonjing cha. Outside of Hangzhou, anything called "longjing" could very well be some other variety of green tea that looks like longjing cha. You go to the farm and you can see the equipment they use to hand-cure the stuff.
Lion's Peak is in West Lake, Hangzhou. That is where they have the emperor's tea trees. But of course, my tea is not from those trees. :cry:
Still, as you probably know, there are many, many grades of tea. And, fwiw, the best TASTING is not always the most expensive or the highest graded. Very often, the tea's presentation - how it looks in the glass - is of equal importance to the actual taste. The first picking, for example, in a blind taste test, probably wouldn't come in first... but it would definitely come in first in how it looks in the glass. When we go to the farm, they usually cart out several grades of tea... the difference is most obvious just by looking at them, not by tasting.
The tea I got from the old ladies was almost tasteless. I only grew to appreciate it after trying other Dragon Wells. And now I'm all out. I have to make another trip.... I hope one of the sisters is still alive.
 
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That's what I was told, verbatim, when my well-connected Chinese lady friend (whom FBGs here unanimously said was ugly, even though she could make any husband a fully kept man), ordered 2kg of longjing cha (Longjing, or Dragon Well, tea) to be delivered to us overnight in Hangzhou by courier directly from Shanghai... the top-shelf stuff that no one but communist party members can get.

Aside from that kind of situation, I'm not so sure.
:excited: You can get good Dragon Well tea?!
Youbetcha. Every time I go to China we go straight to the farm in Hangzhou. But even they have to sell their very best first pick to the Communist Party. After that... it's a free-for-all. Go straight to the farm and you can bargain up a storm.... get a much, much better price than at the officially sanctioned Communist Party stores, which is where the tourist guides will take you. But the stuff my friend got us, we couldn't even get from the farm because it's the very first picking and goes straight to the higher-ups in the Communist Party. Not available in stores at all, evah.
I bought some DW from a tea farm at the foot of Lion Peak mountain. In was in April and 2 old ladies brought out a small amount of tea they have left in a crumbled paper bag. It was excellent, with a tiniest hint of nutty flavor. I envy you your supplier.
No, no, no... you want to go to Hangzhou, to the tea farms near West Lake (Xi Hu). They won't bring out a small amount of tea. They will bring out whole trays of tea of varying quality.. you can ask them to brew any or all of it up for tasting. And you will have to bargain for the price, which will be much, much better than at any conventional store. Hangzhou is where you want to go... my favorite city in all of China so far. And that's where they grow the genuine lonjing cha. Outside of Hangzhou, anything called "longjing" could very well be some other variety of green tea that looks like longjing cha. You go to the farm and you can see the equipment they use to hand-cure the stuff.
Lion's Peak is in West Lake, Hangzhou. That is where they have the emperor's tea trees. But of course, my tea is not from those trees. :cry:
Still, as you probably know, there are many, many grades of tea. And, fwiw, the best TASTING is not always the most expensive or the highest graded. Very often, the tea's presentation - how it looks in the glass - is of equal importance to the actual taste. The first picking, for example, in a blind taste test, probably wouldn't come in first... but it would definitely come in first in how it looks in the glass. When we go to the farm, they usually cart out several grades of tea... the difference is most obvious just by looking at them, not by tasting.
The tea I got from the old ladies was almost tasteless. I only grew to appreciate it after trying other Dragon Wells. And now I'm all out. I have to make another trip.... I hope one of the sisters are still alive.
There are many farms near West Lake. Knowing the way the Chinese economy works, I would think you could pull into any one of them and ask to strike up a deal. Note that none of them will speak Engrish. But whatever deal you make has to be better than what you would get in the Party store. I went there once and they threw out a price at me and I said, "that's great.. what's the real price?" And I made a counter offer about 1/2 of what their initial offer was. Know what? They wouldn't bargain at all! They actually stuck to their price!! I couldn't f'ing believe it. After that we just went to a farm where they were more willing to negotiate.

 
There are many farms near West Lake. Knowing the way the Chinese economy works, I would think you could pull into any one of them and ask to strike up a deal. Note that none of them will speak Engrish. But whatever deal you make has to be better than what you would get in the Party store. I went there once and they threw out a price at me and I said, "that's great.. what's the real price?" And I made a counter offer about 1/2 of what their initial offer was. Know what? They wouldn't bargain at all! They actually stuck to their price!! I couldn't f'ing believe it. After that we just went to a farm where they were more willing to negotiate.
I was told the price dropped a lot this year. Auction price might be below the price of gold... Time to stock up!
 
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