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[Ilov80s]

Fake or not, there are millions of people being abused and mistreated across the globe. North Adrica and areas of the Middle East are really unstable right now and people are dying because of it.

 

[Apple Jack]

Fake or not, there are millions of people being abused and mistreated across the globe. North Adrica and areas of the Middle East are really unstable right now and people are dying because of it.

Can you please break them down according to how much they like tacos so that I can determine which ones to care about?

 

[cobalt_27]

Fake or not, there are millions of people being abused and mistreated across the globe. North Adrica and areas of the Middle East are really unstable right now and people are dying because of it.

Thanks for the update. Had no idea.

 

[CrossEyed]

I'm not trying to call CE out, just saying that the picture is fake. I wasn't trying to even debunk it, I just went to Google to find some articles to read up on the whole thing.I typed in "Christians burned alive Nigeria" and the top 2 results were "Christians burned alive Nigeria fake" and "Christians burned alive Nigeria snopes", so I followed the lead. I don't see a Snopes article anywhere, but there are a few websites calling out a woman for starting the hateful rumor and linking to news of the actual event, a fuel tanker explosion. It really didn't take much sleuthing, took all of about 5 minutes.

I went to Snopes and typed in Nigeria and didn't find anything. I guess I need to not rely solely on Snopes.

 

[bigbottom]

What human rights organization would you like to condemn this violence?

How about any of them?

Or any of the major media outlets. I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere, outside of the link I posted.

Clue #1.

 

[Cliff Clavin]

If it's fake, I apologize for passing it along. I did a search and didn't find anything. I had heard of mass killings of Christians going on in northern Africa, so when I found nothing to invalidate the article I assumed it was accurate.

Pretty standard for christian problem solving.

 

[cobalt_27]

My link (Warning: graphic photo)

This is a brutal example of how far the struggle between muslims and catholics in Nigeria has reached. Muslims are determined to impose their 'religion' all over Africa as well as in other continents and countries of the world. Islam has but one goal: rule the world at any cost." "And where are the International Human Rights Organizations? Christians are burnt alive in Nigeria: a horrific Holocaust right in front of International indifference. As denounced by Father Juan Carlos Martos, on behalf of the Missionari Clarettiani, via del Sacro Cuore di Maria, Rome, Italy." "By publishing this graphic document on Facebook, I have intended to make the world aware of certain terrible events totally ignored or minimized by the mainstream media; an authentic genocide so cruel and inhuman only comparable with the most hateful and vile acts in the Nazi extermination camps.""To my great surprise, Facebook has criticized me for the publication of this graphic document as a proof of the Holocaust that Christians have been suffering in Nigeria in the last ten years. According to Facebook's Security policy of the 'social' Network, this photo has been classified as 'pornographic', 'violent' or 'inappropriate' and hence I was disallowed to publish any picture for a week. And I was threatened drastic measures if I insist publishing any document that prove the terrible violations of Human Rights in Nigeria. This attitude by the (Spanish) Facebook Management is an attack to the freedom of expression as much as a shameful insult to the 500 victims (only in this horrible episode) slaughtered by islamic terror only for being christian." "I thought that this social network, originated in the United States, would not bend its knees in front of terror. Especially, when still healing their wounds suffered in the gruesome 9/11 attack, just as our own 3/11 at Madrid railway station, all innocent victims of the wild fury and insanity of islamic terror." "This seems even more unacceptable in Spain, a Democratic state, where the rights of opinion, expression and religion are guaranteed by the Constitution (Art. 16 and 20), if there is an attempt to limit such rights, let alone through threats and coercion thus weakening their freedom of expression by condemning as "inappropriate" a graphic document (not a photomontage) which reflects a brutal reality in all its crudeness." "Contrarily, the Administrators of Facebook Spain should welcome this public protest advocating that such a barbarian act will never be replicated and that its perpetrators will be brought to justice. This is a right and duty of every citizen: a service to society, ultimate goal, I feel, of any network that defines itself as 'social'." "Regrettably, if the murders continue, this is greatly because truth is always hidden to the sovereign people, so that they may not be aware and 'disdained' by it: complicit silence by the mainstream media leads to the indifference of the international political community facing this unspeakable Holocaust. Let alone the cowardice already rooted in the western world facing the islamic terror. A consequence of the stupid "Alliance of civilizations": another regrettable incident of our former Prime Minister Rodriguez Zapatero." "Can you imagine the reaction of the islamic terrorist organization in the (impossible) case of a massacre of muslims in a mosque, by the hands of christian terrorists? And how widely would our media cover and condemn the crime and the criminals??" "Therefore, from this modest blog, I ask a favor from all people who are reading me: please distribute this photo and its comments using all the media you have. If only for commemorating these martyrs since, unfortunately, Facebook seems to be on the side of the executioners by preventing the publication of such tragic events."

CE, if you really want to do some good here, why don't you contact Hebrew Nation Radio and chew out Laura Densmore for posting this ridiculous faux story on the website. It might be an illuminating discussion.503-316-1220

 

[PlasmaDogPlasma]

Al Jazeera does a lot of reporting on Nigeria if you're looking for a media outlet to keep you up on events there.

 

[mad sweeney]

But... but... Facebook still hates Christians!! That canNOT be overlooked!

 

[Dr. Awesome]

I'm not trying to call CE out, just saying that the picture is fake. I wasn't trying to even debunk it, I just went to Google to find some articles to read up on the whole thing.I typed in "Christians burned alive Nigeria" and the top 2 results were "Christians burned alive Nigeria fake" and "Christians burned alive Nigeria snopes", so I followed the lead. I don't see a Snopes article anywhere, but there are a few websites calling out a woman for starting the hateful rumor and linking to news of the actual event, a fuel tanker explosion. It really didn't take much sleuthing, took all of about 5 minutes.

I went to Snopes and typed in Nigeria and didn't find anything. I guess I need to not rely solely on Snopes.

The problem isn't so much falling for a bs story. It's how you bit. A story isn't being reported by the MSM and your first thought goes to conspiracy against Christians? You definitely come across as a guy with some smarts and a man who means well. But the way you phrased this headline - and others - clearly shows you have some kind of martyr complex. You can re-asses how you read these things without it interfering with your faith.

 

[Mr Capicollo]

My link (Warning: graphic photo)

"Can you imagine the reaction of the islamic terrorist organization in the (impossible) case of a massacre of muslims in a mosque, by the hands of christian terrorists? And how widely would our media cover and condemn the crime and the criminals??" "Therefore, from this modest blog, I ask a favor from all people who are reading me: please distribute this photo and its comments using all the media you have. If only for commemorating these martyrs since, unfortunately, Facebook seems to be on the side of the executioners by preventing the publication of such tragic events."

(Warning: graphic )

 

[Josie Maran]

It's still real to me, dammit!

 

[Time Kibitzer]

If it's fake, I apologize for passing it along. I did a search and didn't find anything. I had heard of mass killings of Christians going on in northern Africa, so when I found nothing to invalidate the article I assumed it was accurate.

I'm sure.

 

[Kal El]

So if it's fake, and from what everyone's posting, that looks more likely, maybe we should start fact-checking before posting things, because while shock headlines will get posts, eventually being called out will be problematic.

Are you still outraged then? You seem just as guilty as the OP IMO, add faux outrage to your faux human rights org.

Yeah, my face is a little red. I must remember to do some fact checking of my own.

 

[CrossEyed]

If it's fake, I apologize for passing it along. I did a search and didn't find anything. I had heard of mass killings of Christians going on in northern Africa, so when I found nothing to invalidate the article I assumed it was accurate.

I'm sure.

I already posted where I searched. If you don't want to believe me, that's your call.

 

[bigbottom]

I think CE has no capacity for shame. In some ways, it's an admirable quality.

 

[Ilov80s]

Fake or not, there are millions of people being abused and mistreated across the globe. North Adrica and areas of the Middle East are really unstable right now and people are dying because of it.

Thanks for the update. Had no idea.

Something bothering you? I hope everything is ok.

 

[cobalt_27]

If it's fake, I apologize for passing it along. I did a search and didn't find anything. I had heard of mass killings of Christians going on in northern Africa, so when I found nothing to invalidate the article I assumed it was accurate.

I'm sure.

I already posted where I searched. If you don't want to believe me, that's your call.

My problem is, you have such a strong bias toward being a martyr--and Christians being a martyr--you let your desire for this to be true and validate your mission/position interfere with truth and factual interpretation. This isn't the first time we've seen this act from you, as your shtick is well known in these here parts.

 

[cobalt_27]

Fake or not, there are millions of people being abused and mistreated across the globe. North Adrica and areas of the Middle East are really unstable right now and people are dying because of it.

Thanks for the update. Had no idea.

Something bothering you? I hope everything is ok.

Everything's fine. I really appreciate the update, as I'm sure a lot of other folks like me had no idea about the instability of the ME and North Africa.

 

[otello]

CE, you passed on a story that you now know is clearly fake. Please delete your original post so this thread can go away. Thanks.

 

[Time Kibitzer]

If it's fake, I apologize for passing it along. I did a search and didn't find anything. I had heard of mass killings of Christians going on in northern Africa, so when I found nothing to invalidate the article I assumed it was accurate.

I'm sure.

I already posted where I searched. If you don't want to believe me, that's your call.

I'm sorry, I just find it hard to believe that someone could engage in an internet search that doesn't involve a simple google search.

 

[Ilov80s]

Fake or not, there are millions of people being abused and mistreated across the globe. North Adrica and areas of the Middle East are really unstable right now and people are dying because of it.

Thanks for the update. Had no idea.

Something bothering you? I hope everything is ok.

Everything's fine. I really appreciate the update, as I'm sure a lot of other folks like me had no idea about the instability of the ME and North Africa.

Sorry to waste your time and force you to make not one, but two sarcastic comments. I meant to imply that it doesn't really matter if this one story is true or not. We know there are atrocities. What difference does it make if it is Christians in Nigeria or Muslims in Syria? Life in that area is screwed up and everyone knows it.

 

[cobalt_27]

CE, you passed on a story that you now know is clearly fake. Please delete your original post so this thread can go away. Thanks.

I would advocate for a change in title. But, the nuts and bolts of the current discussion has some legs.

 

[CrossEyed]

CE, you passed on a story that you now know is clearly fake. Please delete your original post so this thread can go away. Thanks.

I don't see that as an option available to me. I think only mods can delete threads.

 

[otello]

CE, you passed on a story that you now know is clearly fake. Please delete your original post so this thread can go away. Thanks.

I don't see that as an option available to me. I think only mods can delete threads.

Edit thread title, calling it "Delete" and delete body of OP.

 

[CrossEyed]

CE, you passed on a story that you now know is clearly fake. Please delete your original post so this thread can go away. Thanks.

I don't see that as an option available to me. I think only mods can delete threads.

Edit thread title, calling it "Delete" and delete body of OP.

Sure thing.

 

[cobalt_27]

Fake or not, there are millions of people being abused and mistreated across the globe. North Adrica and areas of the Middle East are really unstable right now and people are dying because of it.

Thanks for the update. Had no idea.

Something bothering you? I hope everything is ok.

Everything's fine. I really appreciate the update, as I'm sure a lot of other folks like me had no idea about the instability of the ME and North Africa.

Sorry to waste your time and force you to make not one, but two sarcastic comments. I meant to imply that it doesn't really matter if this one story is true or not. We know there are atrocities. What difference does it make if it is Christians in Nigeria or Muslims in Syria? Life in that area is screwed up and everyone knows it.

You're not wasting my time, so don't apologize. What CE did here fits a pattern, a troubling impulse of his to make everything be about persecuted Christians. And, of course they are being persecuted in some areas, that is not an unknown. You don't have to advance fake stories to make folks aware of it and, in fact, it harms your advocacy when you do. But, CE and others harp on this to distinguish themselves as the chosen people, ignoring the persecution brought on by Christians throughout their short history. So, it's a grain of sand amidst a much larger issue and pattern(one can read the Persecution thread for an update on how this story is told). My bottom line is this is more about CE and his pattern of posting and philosophy behind the stories he wants to tell than it is anything else.

 

[SacramentoBob]

Looks like the picture may be fake....I don't see a Snopes article though. Still looking.

oops.

BUT WHY ISN'T IT BEING REPORTED?

 

[SacramentoBob]

So is this the new official delete thread? The old one kind of died off.

 

[CrossEyed]

Fake or not, there are millions of people being abused and mistreated across the globe. North Adrica and areas of the Middle East are really unstable right now and people are dying because of it.

Thanks for the update. Had no idea.

Something bothering you? I hope everything is ok.

Everything's fine. I really appreciate the update, as I'm sure a lot of other folks like me had no idea about the instability of the ME and North Africa.

Sorry to waste your time and force you to make not one, but two sarcastic comments. I meant to imply that it doesn't really matter if this one story is true or not. We know there are atrocities. What difference does it make if it is Christians in Nigeria or Muslims in Syria? Life in that area is screwed up and everyone knows it.

You're not wasting my time, so don't apologize. What CE did here fits a pattern, a troubling impulse of his to make everything be about persecuted Christians. And, of course they are being persecuted in some areas, that is not an unknown. You don't have to advance fake stories to make folks aware of it and, in fact, it harms your advocacy when you do. But, CE and others harp on this to distinguish themselves as the chosen people, ignoring the persecution brought on by Christians throughout their short history. So, it's a grain of sand amidst a much larger issue and pattern(one can read the Persecution thread for an update on how this story is told). My bottom line is this is more about CE and his pattern of posting and philosophy behind the stories he wants to tell than it is anything else.

No, I don't make everything about that, i post about a lot of things. But apparently that's all you want to see.ETA: Exhibit A

 

[SacramentoBob]

Looks like we have competition now.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Fake or not, there are millions of people being abused and mistreated across the globe. North Adrica and areas of the Middle East are really unstable right now and people are dying because of it.

Thanks for the update. Had no idea.

Something bothering you? I hope everything is ok.

Everything's fine. I really appreciate the update, as I'm sure a lot of other folks like me had no idea about the instability of the ME and North Africa.

Sorry to waste your time and force you to make not one, but two sarcastic comments. I meant to imply that it doesn't really matter if this one story is true or not. We know there are atrocities. What difference does it make if it is Christians in Nigeria or Muslims in Syria? Life in that area is screwed up and everyone knows it.

You're not wasting my time, so don't apologize. What CE did here fits a pattern, a troubling impulse of his to make everything be about persecuted Christians. And, of course they are being persecuted in some areas, that is not an unknown. You don't have to advance fake stories to make folks aware of it and, in fact, it harms your advocacy when you do. But, CE and others harp on this to distinguish themselves as the chosen people, ignoring the persecution brought on by Christians throughout their short history. So, it's a grain of sand amidst a much larger issue and pattern(one can read the Persecution thread for an update on how this story is told). My bottom line is this is more about CE and his pattern of posting and philosophy behind the stories he wants to tell than it is anything else.

No, I don't make everything about that, i post about a lot of things. But apparently that's all you want to see.ETA: Exhibit A

Very true. A great number of things about that, yes. But not everything.

 

[CrossEyed]

Fake or not, there are millions of people being abused and mistreated across the globe. North Adrica and areas of the Middle East are really unstable right now and people are dying because of it.

Thanks for the update. Had no idea.

Something bothering you? I hope everything is ok.

Everything's fine. I really appreciate the update, as I'm sure a lot of other folks like me had no idea about the instability of the ME and North Africa.

Sorry to waste your time and force you to make not one, but two sarcastic comments. I meant to imply that it doesn't really matter if this one story is true or not. We know there are atrocities. What difference does it make if it is Christians in Nigeria or Muslims in Syria? Life in that area is screwed up and everyone knows it.

You're not wasting my time, so don't apologize. What CE did here fits a pattern, a troubling impulse of his to make everything be about persecuted Christians. And, of course they are being persecuted in some areas, that is not an unknown. You don't have to advance fake stories to make folks aware of it and, in fact, it harms your advocacy when you do. But, CE and others harp on this to distinguish themselves as the chosen people, ignoring the persecution brought on by Christians throughout their short history. So, it's a grain of sand amidst a much larger issue and pattern(one can read the Persecution thread for an update on how this story is told). My bottom line is this is more about CE and his pattern of posting and philosophy behind the stories he wants to tell than it is anything else.

No, I don't make everything about that, i post about a lot of things. But apparently that's all you want to see.ETA: Exhibit A

Very true. A great number of things about that, yes. But not everything.

Really? What % of my posts are about that topic? I just linked all of my content, so you should be able to take a stab at the number pretty quickly.

 

[mad sweeney]

Fake or not, there are millions of people being abused and mistreated across the globe. North Adrica and areas of the Middle East are really unstable right now and people are dying because of it.

Thanks for the update. Had no idea.

Something bothering you? I hope everything is ok.

Everything's fine. I really appreciate the update, as I'm sure a lot of other folks like me had no idea about the instability of the ME and North Africa.

Sorry to waste your time and force you to make not one, but two sarcastic comments. I meant to imply that it doesn't really matter if this one story is true or not. We know there are atrocities. What difference does it make if it is Christians in Nigeria or Muslims in Syria? Life in that area is screwed up and everyone knows it.

You're not wasting my time, so don't apologize. What CE did here fits a pattern, a troubling impulse of his to make everything be about persecuted Christians. And, of course they are being persecuted in some areas, that is not an unknown. You don't have to advance fake stories to make folks aware of it and, in fact, it harms your advocacy when you do. But, CE and others harp on this to distinguish themselves as the chosen people, ignoring the persecution brought on by Christians throughout their short history. So, it's a grain of sand amidst a much larger issue and pattern(one can read the Persecution thread for an update on how this story is told). My bottom line is this is more about CE and his pattern of posting and philosophy behind the stories he wants to tell than it is anything else.

No, I don't make everything about that, i post about a lot of things. But apparently that's all you want to see.ETA: Exhibit A

Poor, persecuted CE.

 

[cobalt_27]

Fake or not, there are millions of people being abused and mistreated across the globe. North Adrica and areas of the Middle East are really unstable right now and people are dying because of it.

Thanks for the update. Had no idea.

Something bothering you? I hope everything is ok.

Everything's fine. I really appreciate the update, as I'm sure a lot of other folks like me had no idea about the instability of the ME and North Africa.

Sorry to waste your time and force you to make not one, but two sarcastic comments. I meant to imply that it doesn't really matter if this one story is true or not. We know there are atrocities. What difference does it make if it is Christians in Nigeria or Muslims in Syria? Life in that area is screwed up and everyone knows it.

You're not wasting my time, so don't apologize. What CE did here fits a pattern, a troubling impulse of his to make everything be about persecuted Christians. And, of course they are being persecuted in some areas, that is not an unknown. You don't have to advance fake stories to make folks aware of it and, in fact, it harms your advocacy when you do. But, CE and others harp on this to distinguish themselves as the chosen people, ignoring the persecution brought on by Christians throughout their short history. So, it's a grain of sand amidst a much larger issue and pattern(one can read the Persecution thread for an update on how this story is told). My bottom line is this is more about CE and his pattern of posting and philosophy behind the stories he wants to tell than it is anything else.

No, I don't make everything about that, i post about a lot of things. But apparently that's all you want to see.ETA: Exhibit A

Very true. A great number of things about that, yes. But not everything.

My sloppy use of the word "everything." But, ask anyone here what CE generally posts about, you should get two answers: Pittsburgh sports and Christianity.

 

[Dr. Awesome]

Fake or not, there are millions of people being abused and mistreated across the globe. North Adrica and areas of the Middle East are really unstable right now and people are dying because of it.

Thanks for the update. Had no idea.

Something bothering you? I hope everything is ok.

Everything's fine. I really appreciate the update, as I'm sure a lot of other folks like me had no idea about the instability of the ME and North Africa.

Sorry to waste your time and force you to make not one, but two sarcastic comments. I meant to imply that it doesn't really matter if this one story is true or not. We know there are atrocities. What difference does it make if it is Christians in Nigeria or Muslims in Syria? Life in that area is screwed up and everyone knows it.

You're not wasting my time, so don't apologize. What CE did here fits a pattern, a troubling impulse of his to make everything be about persecuted Christians. And, of course they are being persecuted in some areas, that is not an unknown. You don't have to advance fake stories to make folks aware of it and, in fact, it harms your advocacy when you do. But, CE and others harp on this to distinguish themselves as the chosen people, ignoring the persecution brought on by Christians throughout their short history. So, it's a grain of sand amidst a much larger issue and pattern(one can read the Persecution thread for an update on how this story is told). My bottom line is this is more about CE and his pattern of posting and philosophy behind the stories he wants to tell than it is anything else.

No, I don't make everything about that, i post about a lot of things. But apparently that's all you want to see.ETA: Exhibit A

Very true. A great number of things about that, yes. But not everything.

Really? What % of my posts are about that topic? I just linked all of my content, so you should be able to take a stab at the number pretty quickly.

Have you met fellow Christians who disagree on your take of this Christian persecution? Either in the ffa and/or real life? If so, how do you interpret that? Do you believe they're simply ignorant (not necessarily deliberately so)? Do you believe they're interpreting the 'facts' you present incorrectly?

 

[CrossEyed]

Fake or not, there are millions of people being abused and mistreated across the globe. North Adrica and areas of the Middle East are really unstable right now and people are dying because of it.

Thanks for the update. Had no idea.

Something bothering you? I hope everything is ok.

Everything's fine. I really appreciate the update, as I'm sure a lot of other folks like me had no idea about the instability of the ME and North Africa.

Sorry to waste your time and force you to make not one, but two sarcastic comments. I meant to imply that it doesn't really matter if this one story is true or not. We know there are atrocities. What difference does it make if it is Christians in Nigeria or Muslims in Syria? Life in that area is screwed up and everyone knows it.

You're not wasting my time, so don't apologize. What CE did here fits a pattern, a troubling impulse of his to make everything be about persecuted Christians. And, of course they are being persecuted in some areas, that is not an unknown. You don't have to advance fake stories to make folks aware of it and, in fact, it harms your advocacy when you do. But, CE and others harp on this to distinguish themselves as the chosen people, ignoring the persecution brought on by Christians throughout their short history. So, it's a grain of sand amidst a much larger issue and pattern(one can read the Persecution thread for an update on how this story is told). My bottom line is this is more about CE and his pattern of posting and philosophy behind the stories he wants to tell than it is anything else.

No, I don't make everything about that, i post about a lot of things. But apparently that's all you want to see.ETA: Exhibit A

Very true. A great number of things about that, yes. But not everything.

My sloppy use of the word "everything." But, ask anyone here what CE generally posts about, you should get two answers: Pittsburgh sports and Christianity.

So you didn't actually look at the lst of threads I've posted in, did you?

 

[Insomniac]

What human rights organization would you like to condemn this violence?

How about any of them?

Or any of the major media outlets. I haven't seen it mentioned anywhere, outside of the link I posted.

Did you at least wonder why none of the usual right wing sites like Fox or Drudge reported this?

 

[cobalt_27]

Fake or not, there are millions of people being abused and mistreated across the globe. North Adrica and areas of the Middle East are really unstable right now and people are dying because of it.

Thanks for the update. Had no idea.

Something bothering you? I hope everything is ok.

Everything's fine. I really appreciate the update, as I'm sure a lot of other folks like me had no idea about the instability of the ME and North Africa.

Sorry to waste your time and force you to make not one, but two sarcastic comments. I meant to imply that it doesn't really matter if this one story is true or not. We know there are atrocities. What difference does it make if it is Christians in Nigeria or Muslims in Syria? Life in that area is screwed up and everyone knows it.

You're not wasting my time, so don't apologize. What CE did here fits a pattern, a troubling impulse of his to make everything be about persecuted Christians. And, of course they are being persecuted in some areas, that is not an unknown. You don't have to advance fake stories to make folks aware of it and, in fact, it harms your advocacy when you do. But, CE and others harp on this to distinguish themselves as the chosen people, ignoring the persecution brought on by Christians throughout their short history. So, it's a grain of sand amidst a much larger issue and pattern(one can read the Persecution thread for an update on how this story is told). My bottom line is this is more about CE and his pattern of posting and philosophy behind the stories he wants to tell than it is anything else.

No, I don't make everything about that, i post about a lot of things. But apparently that's all you want to see.ETA: Exhibit A

Very true. A great number of things about that, yes. But not everything.

My sloppy use of the word "everything." But, ask anyone here what CE generally posts about, you should get two answers: Pittsburgh sports and Christianity.

So you didn't actually look at the lst of threads I've posted in, did you?

I dunno. The more interesting question is the number of posts within each of those threads. In the Persecution thread, alone...the one you started...it has to represent a significant percentage of your overall posts.As big bottom hinted at, the way you see yourself likely differs from how others see you.

 

[Kal El]

Ok, the constant quoting is boring, and despite my Ritalin, my ADD is fighting to be unleashed. We get that Crosseyed doesn't feel like all of his posts deal with martyrdom of Christians, and he's welcome to that. Let's move on.

 

[Doctor Detroit]

Why delete the thread? Change the title, make this into another crappy religious thread where you guys argue for days about stuff that may or may not exist.

 

[Good Posting Judge]

Heart of a #1 seed. Even down 10, fighting until the end.

 

[cobalt_27]

Heart of a #1 seed. Even down 10, fighting until the end.

In hockey, there's always a chance.

 

[Ilov80s]

Fake or not, there are millions of people being abused and mistreated across the globe. North Adrica and areas of the Middle East are really unstable right now and people are dying because of it.

Thanks for the update. Had no idea.

Something bothering you? I hope everything is ok.

Everything's fine. I really appreciate the update, as I'm sure a lot of other folks like me had no idea about the instability of the ME and North Africa.

Sorry to waste your time and force you to make not one, but two sarcastic comments. I meant to imply that it doesn't really matter if this one story is true or not. We know there are atrocities. What difference does it make if it is Christians in Nigeria or Muslims in Syria? Life in that area is screwed up and everyone knows it.

You're not wasting my time, so don't apologize. What CE did here fits a pattern, a troubling impulse of his to make everything be about persecuted Christians. And, of course they are being persecuted in some areas, that is not an unknown. You don't have to advance fake stories to make folks aware of it and, in fact, it harms your advocacy when you do. But, CE and others harp on this to distinguish themselves as the chosen people, ignoring the persecution brought on by Christians throughout their short history. So, it's a grain of sand amidst a much larger issue and pattern(one can read the Persecution thread for an update on how this story is told). My bottom line is this is more about CE and his pattern of posting and philosophy behind the stories he wants to tell than it is anything else.

I know the ulterior motives of CE and others in this thread. CE is obviously biased, but doesn't seem to recognize it or want to recognize it. I doubt another thread is going to alter that. However, he is right in that there are terrible things happening and we should pay more attention to this and what kind of role our country is playing in improving or harming the situations.

 

[cobalt_27]

Fake or not, there are millions of people being abused and mistreated across the globe. North Adrica and areas of the Middle East are really unstable right now and people are dying because of it.

Thanks for the update. Had no idea.

Something bothering you? I hope everything is ok.

Everything's fine. I really appreciate the update, as I'm sure a lot of other folks like me had no idea about the instability of the ME and North Africa.

Sorry to waste your time and force you to make not one, but two sarcastic comments. I meant to imply that it doesn't really matter if this one story is true or not. We know there are atrocities. What difference does it make if it is Christians in Nigeria or Muslims in Syria? Life in that area is screwed up and everyone knows it.

You're not wasting my time, so don't apologize. What CE did here fits a pattern, a troubling impulse of his to make everything be about persecuted Christians. And, of course they are being persecuted in some areas, that is not an unknown. You don't have to advance fake stories to make folks aware of it and, in fact, it harms your advocacy when you do. But, CE and others harp on this to distinguish themselves as the chosen people, ignoring the persecution brought on by Christians throughout their short history. So, it's a grain of sand amidst a much larger issue and pattern(one can read the Persecution thread for an update on how this story is told). My bottom line is this is more about CE and his pattern of posting and philosophy behind the stories he wants to tell than it is anything else.

I know the ulterior motives of CE and others in this thread. CE is obviously biased, but doesn't seem to recognize it or want to recognize it. I doubt another thread is going to alter that. However, he is right in that there are terrible things happening and we should pay more attention to this and what kind of role our country is playing in improving or harming the situations.

Fair enough. I'm just not ready to give him a monopoly as the inventor of this idea, and using objective data to explore these issues likely would be more effective than....well, this.ETA: and it would be nice if he could generalize to other terrible things going on, rather than centralize his POV on just the terrible maltreatment of Christians. It's become such a cliche for him.

 

[Run It Up]

ETA: Delete thread.

Can't believe this didn't work out. RIP

 

[CrossEyed]

ETA: Delete thread.

Can't believe this didn't work out. RIP

It was requested of me and I obliged.

 

[Ilov80s]

Fake or not, there are millions of people being abused and mistreated across the globe. North Adrica and areas of the Middle East are really unstable right now and people are dying because of it.

Thanks for the update. Had no idea.

Something bothering you? I hope everything is ok.

Everything's fine. I really appreciate the update, as I'm sure a lot of other folks like me had no idea about the instability of the ME and North Africa.

Sorry to waste your time and force you to make not one, but two sarcastic comments. I meant to imply that it doesn't really matter if this one story is true or not. We know there are atrocities. What difference does it make if it is Christians in Nigeria or Muslims in Syria? Life in that area is screwed up and everyone knows it.

You're not wasting my time, so don't apologize. What CE did here fits a pattern, a troubling impulse of his to make everything be about persecuted Christians. And, of course they are being persecuted in some areas, that is not an unknown. You don't have to advance fake stories to make folks aware of it and, in fact, it harms your advocacy when you do. But, CE and others harp on this to distinguish themselves as the chosen people, ignoring the persecution brought on by Christians throughout their short history. So, it's a grain of sand amidst a much larger issue and pattern(one can read the Persecution thread for an update on how this story is told). My bottom line is this is more about CE and his pattern of posting and philosophy behind the stories he wants to tell than it is anything else.

I know the ulterior motives of CE and others in this thread. CE is obviously biased, but doesn't seem to recognize it or want to recognize it. I doubt another thread is going to alter that. However, he is right in that there are terrible things happening and we should pay more attention to this and what kind of role our country is playing in improving or harming the situations.

Fair enough. I'm just not ready to give him a monopoly as the inventor of this idea, and using objective data to explore these issues likely would be more effective than....well, this.ETA: and it would be nice if he could generalize to other terrible things going on, rather than centralize his POV on just the terrible maltreatment of Christians. It's become such a cliche for him.

I completely agree, but if we want to be considered more rational, than we have to be careful not to get sucked into a cliche ourselves,

 

[Sonny Lubick Blowup Doll]

OMG

 

[mad sweeney]

Fake or not, there are millions of people being abused and mistreated across the globe. North Adrica and areas of the Middle East are really unstable right now and people are dying because of it.

Thanks for the update. Had no idea.

Something bothering you? I hope everything is ok.

Everything's fine. I really appreciate the update, as I'm sure a lot of other folks like me had no idea about the instability of the ME and North Africa.

Sorry to waste your time and force you to make not one, but two sarcastic comments. I meant to imply that it doesn't really matter if this one story is true or not. We know there are atrocities. What difference does it make if it is Christians in Nigeria or Muslims in Syria? Life in that area is screwed up and everyone knows it.

You're not wasting my time, so don't apologize. What CE did here fits a pattern, a troubling impulse of his to make everything be about persecuted Christians. And, of course they are being persecuted in some areas, that is not an unknown. You don't have to advance fake stories to make folks aware of it and, in fact, it harms your advocacy when you do. But, CE and others harp on this to distinguish themselves as the chosen people, ignoring the persecution brought on by Christians throughout their short history. So, it's a grain of sand amidst a much larger issue and pattern(one can read the Persecution thread for an update on how this story is told). My bottom line is this is more about CE and his pattern of posting and philosophy behind the stories he wants to tell than it is anything else.

I know the ulterior motives of CE and others in this thread. CE is obviously biased, but doesn't seem to recognize it or want to recognize it. I doubt another thread is going to alter that. However, he is right in that there are terrible things happening and we should pay more attention to this and what kind of role our country is playing in improving or harming the situations.

Fair enough. I'm just not ready to give him a monopoly as the inventor of this idea, and using objective data to explore these issues likely would be more effective than....well, this.ETA: and it would be nice if he could generalize to other terrible things going on, rather than centralize his POV on just the terrible maltreatment of Christians. It's become such a cliche for him.

That's because the bolded wasn't CE's point. His point was that bad things were happening to Christians, who simply cannot escape the oppressive thumb of the universe, and not enough people were talking about it. It wasn't a humanitarian effort to improve the human condition, it was a woe is us Christians post. The tone of the linked article, that spent more time complaining about Facebook not letting him post a disgusting picture (which they don't let anyone do) because FB is also anti-Christian is exactly the tone CE takes with other similar topics: see Most Persecuted thread.