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Official Dez Bryant (4 Viewers)

travdogg said:
 1,000 yards and 10+ TD's aren't relevant. Those only matter in fantasy. He was as good in 2016 as he ever was. Whenever he was healthy, and needed, he was great. This Dez under performed in 2016 narrative is false to anyone who watched the games. He simply was used as more of a decoy, while the offense ran through Elliott. Dez was better in 2016 than 2013 in my opinion, its just his stats weren't, because the offense was different, and he was used differently.

2015 had Weeden and Cassel at QB, which makes Prescott look like Brees by comparison. Dez seemed to care a little less that year, and I'll admit the tape wasn't as good, but I don't think it had anything to do with a decline of skills. I think even Dez himself would admit he wasn't really all there in 2015, as the entire team seemed to throw in the towel a bit when Romo went down.

Is it possible Dez is hitting a decline phase? Sure, but its just as possible, in my opinion more so, he's not, and a change of scenery will prove that. 
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I saw most of his games in 2016 since seemingly every Dallas game was either the Fox game of the week or on in the evening, and Dez was most certainly not the stud WR he had been in the past.  If you saw it differently, we can agree to disagree, but I have seen a guy on the decline now for three years.  And it is clear that Dallas agrees, which is why they decided he wasn't worth that contract anymore and cut him.  And is whatever team signs him next going to go the Jerry Jones route and get him a 24/7 babysitter to make sure he doesn't act like an idiot again? 

 
105.3 Dallas' Mike Fisher "senses" the Giants are No. 1 on free agent Dez Bryant's wish list.

Yahoo Sports' Jordan Schultz confirms Fisher's "sense." Fisher recently sat down with Bryant since his release from the Cowboys over the weekend and went over a bunch of teams with Bryant. "Playing with [Odell Beckham], Sterling (Shepard), the tight end (Evan Engram), (QB Eli) Manning? Crazy," Bryant said. "They draft (Penn State running back Saquon Barkley with the No. 2 overall pick)? That'd be crazy!'' Bryant really wants to stay in the NFC East, but it doesn't sound like the feeling is mutual. The Texans, Ravens, and 49ers also make a lot of sense on paper.

Related: Giants

Source: 24/7 Sports 

Apr 16 - 8:26 PM
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Dez said:
Sounds a lot like Randy Moss at age 30 going into 2007.  He did ok.
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Keep chasing the outliers!

Reggie White was the greatest free agent signing of all time. Doesn't mean that it's a good idea, on average, to build your team in free agency.  

For every Randy Moss there's are a dozen guys not living up to their contract.

 
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How are the Giants going to afford him? They are supposedly less than $10M under the cap even after cutting Marshall and still have to shell out over $5M to the #2 overall pick plus whatever their other rookies will cost.

 
Buckna said:
How are the Giants going to afford him? They are supposedly less than $10M under the cap even after cutting Marshall and still have to shell out over $5M to the #2 overall pick plus whatever their other rookies will cost.
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Hes not....and even if he did...not a good spot...he what the 3rd option? 

 
cloppbeast said:
Something tells me he wants to be the first option. So possible landing spots include San Francisco and Buffalo. 
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Market seems as cold as ice..personally i wouldnt want dez anywhere near jimmy g or a rookie qb in buffalo....i have a feeling dez is going to have to eat some humble pie to get a gig

 
NYG not interested in Dez Bryant    Fri Apr 20, 08:50 PM

Free-agent WR Dez Bryant (Cowboys) is not receiving interest from the New York Giants at this point.

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Market seems as cold as ice..personally i wouldnt want dez anywhere near jimmy g or a rookie qb in buffalo....i have a feeling dez is going to have to eat some humble pie to get a gig
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Agreed with pretty much everything here. 

The last thing SF needs to do is get a monster diva to mess with the head of their young QB who has stud potential.

Bryant needs to get this "I need to go to an NFC East team to stick it to Dallas" crap out of his head and worry about finding a team where his fading skills can still be useful.  

 
ESPN's Adam Schefter reports the Ravens "are out" on free agent Dez Bryant.

A similar report popped up last week, but the signing of Willie Snead officially put the Ravens' interest to bed. Dez has also been linked with the Cardinals, Bills, and Packers, but nothing concrete has materialized to this point. It is possible both Dez and his potential suitors want to see how the draft shakes out before making any decisions.

Related: Ravens

Source: Adam Schefter on Twitter 

Apr 23 - 10:50 AM
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cloppbeast said:
Green Bay would be awesome and reap great rewards for those who kept him or bought low. 
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After gifting away the best CB on the team for peanuts due to his locker room cancer personality (while he was still on his rookie deal, Randall), I see near-zero chance the Packers take a flier on Dez.  

I don't want him anywhere near the team unless it's some absurdly cheap one-year prove it deal (<$4M).

 
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His personality is such that teams will deal with the behavior if the skills are elite and the big plays are plentiful. Given the clear decline in his skills, the tolerance threshold for a challenging personality is deservedly low. 

He will be rostered but for scant money, at least in terms of what he is used to making. 

He's a flex type WR3 dart throw at this point. Trade him to the guy in your league who loves the big name cache.

 
With all the teams falling over themselves to sign this guy you really have to question the Dallas front office for losing out on a truckload of draft picks. 

:mellow:

 
Ack88 said:
His personality is such that teams will deal with the behavior if the skills are elite and the big plays are plentiful. Given the clear decline in his skills, the tolerance threshold for a challenging personality is deservedly low. 

He will be rostered but for scant money, at least in terms of what he is used to making. 

He's a flex type WR3 dart throw at this point. Trade him to the guy in your league who loves the big name cache.
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You’re making a good case for the patriots.

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Hes not going there. Ive held dez since his rookie season in 1 dyno...hoping for carolina or maybe pete brings him into seattle....will have to wait post draft though
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Yeah, I was just going off of what was posted earlier from ESPN citing the Packers as a possibility. It makes sense in that they need a solid WR pretty desperately. 

 
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
With all the teams falling over themselves to sign this guy you really have to question the Dallas front office for losing out on a truckload of draft picks. 

:mellow:
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Dallas did him no favors releasing him this late in free agency and a week before the draft.    Teams already have plans in place and cap space alotted

 
domvin said:
Dallas did him no favors releasing him this late in free agency and a week before the draft.    Teams already have plans in place and cap space alotted
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If AB were released today his agent would be taking 31 calls within the hour.  It has nothing to do with the things you cite.

 
Hankmoody said:
If AB were released today his agent would be taking 31 calls within the hour.  It has nothing to do with the things you cite.
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What does AB have to do with it?  Less than the post you are knocking for sure.  Dez isn't AB and nobody is positing such. 

He is certainly in a tier where other FA WRs found nice contracts and homes.  Releasing him when they did eliminated many/most of the opportunities he might have had. The things he cited are spot on, have a lot to do with it. 

What I want to know is how his attitude is playing out here.  And his intelligence... seems to be walking around with a box of rocks up there.

 
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How real is the consideration of retirement and staying in Dallas?

I imagine there would be a lot of money to be made by him off the field there.  Unless he burned those bridges.

 
KellysHeroes said:
I'm very surprised hes not signed... and there hasn't been much interest IMO
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Teams going out of there way to say “we’re not considering.” He’ll cost a lot, isn’t a good teammate on the sideline, has a diminishing skill set, and while its wr class lacking a true stud, there are a lot of guys that could be solid contributors. I doubt he takes a discount. 

 
Snorkelson said:
Teams going out of there way to say “we’re not considering.” He’ll cost a lot, isn’t a good teammate on the sideline, has a diminishing skill set, and while its wr class lacking a true stud, there are a lot of guys that could be solid contributors. I doubt he takes a discount. 
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I wonder if Dez is intentionally delaying the process.  He strikes me as a guy who is unabashedly confident in his abilities and perhaps a bit sensitive.  In his mind he is still a WR1 for a team (or at least a solid WR2).  With that in mind, perhaps he thinks it too risky to sign with a team before the draft only to find next week he is competing for a starting spot. 

 
matuski said:
What does AB have to do with it?  Less than the post you are knocking for sure.  Dez isn't AB and nobody is positing such. 

He is certainly in a tier where other FA WRs found nice contracts and homes.  Releasing him when they did eliminated many/most of the opportunities he might have had. The things he cited are spot on, have a lot to do with it. 

What I want to know is how his attitude is playing out here.  And his intelligence... seems to be walking around with a box of rocks up there.
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That's what AB has to do with it.  The post I quoted stated DAL did him wrong by waiting until now to release him.  The timing is irrelevant.  What is relevant is that Dez isn't a stud WR like AB, Dez is a PITA child with declining skills that no one is excited about bringing into their locker room so they are waiting until they know if they have to or not.  Someone will, but they will do it begrudgingly, because they didn't get help in the draft, or someone got hurt, or they couldn't land a studly alternative like Willie Snead.

 
There’s a thing called the salary cap. Half the teams in the league are at 10M or less available cap space and that’s before they have to pay their rookies. The ones strapped for space have already restructured and made most of the moves they can. You don’t think a team like Miami who has less than $4M in space wouldn’t have at least kicked the tires on Dez over Amendola or Albert Wilson? Or a team like the Raiders who have no problems taking on players with attitudes or personality issues that has less than $3M in cap space wouldn’t have at least considered him over about to be 33 year old Jordy Nelson?

Dez declining skills and attitude certainly has him off some teams radar for sure, but it is asinine to act as if that’s the only factor and that the timing of his release by Dallas didn’t significantly shrink his market. With your example if AB was released today, many teams might call his agent but most of them would have to hang up once they found out his asking price. Maybe a few of those could go back to the drawing board and decide/figure out if they can make or live with some cuts somewhere else on the team to afford him. But most of them would have to live with the reality that they can’t afford him.

 
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Hankmoody said:
That's what AB has to do with it.  The post I quoted stated DAL did him wrong by waiting until now to release him.  The timing is irrelevant.  What is relevant is that Dez isn't a stud WR like AB, Dez is a PITA child with declining skills that no one is excited about bringing into their locker room so they are waiting until they know if they have to or not.  Someone will, but they will do it begrudgingly, because they didn't get help in the draft, or someone got hurt, or they couldn't land a studly alternative like Willie Snead.
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Players of his caliber all found good contracts and homes, and were sought after.  

Both his personality and the timing are completely relevant.  His personality issues don't undo the relevant fact that the timing of his release did him no favors.

 
Speaking Tuesday, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones hinted the team is not open to re-signing free agent Dez Bryant at a lower price.

Bryant believes Jones was not the driving force behind his release, but it's evident the bridge has been burned, at least for the time being. Bryant has drawn rumored interest but has yet to make a visit.

Related: Cowboys

Source: David Helman on Twitter 

Apr 24 - 2:34 PM
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Hankmoody said:
That's what AB has to do with it.  The post I quoted stated DAL did him wrong by waiting until now to release him.  The timing is irrelevant.  What is relevant is that Dez isn't a stud WR like AB, Dez is a PITA child with declining skills that no one is excited about bringing into their locker room so they are waiting until they know if they have to or not.  Someone will, but they will do it begrudgingly, because they didn't get help in the draft, or someone got hurt, or they couldn't land a studly alternative like Willie Snead.
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So, you are saying he will get signed, but depends on the team's draft, orr one of the players they were counting on gets injured, or they don't like what they procured in free agency

That's pretty much what I alluded to up above Hank

 
NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports free agent Dez Bryant is expected to wait until after this week's draft to sign with a team.

There's been little known interest in Bryant since his release from the Cowboys nearly two weeks ago. He's yet to make a visit, and there have been no concrete teams absolutely known to be involved in courting the 29-year-old. He's going to find it real tough to come close to the $12.5 million he was scheduled to earn in 2018 on his Dallas deal. We'll continue to wait.

Source: Ian Rapoport on Twitter 

Apr 25 - 9:30 AM
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Source: Former #Cowboys WR Dez Bryant turned down a multi-year offer from the #Ravens. He apparently wants a big 1-year deal and chance to secure bigger long-term contract as a UFA from beginning in 2019.

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
Source: Former #Cowboys WR Dez Bryant turned down a multi-year offer from the #Ravens. He apparently wants a big 1-year deal and chance to secure bigger long-term contract as a UFA from beginning in 2019.
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Looks like your comment has merit domvin.  Given that Bryant wants a one year deal, the timing of the Cowboys release had to hurt Bryant’s market.  

To use the counter example of AB others have asserted, if AB was released today and he wanted a one year market value deal, even if 31 teams wanted to sign him, it would not be 31 teams that would be able to sign him.  

A one year deal gives no salary cap flexibility.  The team must have the room under the cap this year and many, if not most no longer do.

For Bryant, maybe he didn’t start at 31... maybe he started with only ten teams that would consider signing him.... but like AB that market would get cut in half by being released at the end of FA period rather than the beginning.

Dez was reportedly offered a 7 mil a year deal.  How many teams are left with 7 mill in unallocated cap room this late?

personally, Dez stock went a tick up in my eval because of his demand for a one year prove it deal.  Maybe his skills have faded to the point of being a mediocre w3, or maybe he had a motivation problem.  A one year prove it deal eliminates one of those worries.

 For redraft, I would currently be more than comfortable drafting him around wr30. (Mid wr3 range for 12 team leagues) even without knowing his landing spot.

 
Brisco54 said:
personally, Dez stock went a tick up in my eval because of his demand for a one year prove it deal.  Maybe his skills have faded to the point of being a mediocre w3, or maybe he had a motivation problem.  A one year prove it deal eliminates one of those worries.
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The third possibility would be that his skills have faded, but he is delusional and still thinks he is an elite boundary receiver, and that believes he can still be paid like one...

I'm leaning that way myself...

 
Arodin said:
The third possibility would be that his skills have faded, but he is delusional and still thinks he is an elite boundary receiver, and that believes he can still be paid like one...

I'm leaning that way myself...
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I'm not a professional scout but his game tape is putrid. He's slow, cannot separate, and is no longer a big play threat. He's the new Hakeem Nicks. Sometimes the decline is slow, sometimes is it rapid. His is of the rapid variety. Just fell off a cliff.

Good luck to the team that drafts him. Probably runs a 4.7 40 at this point.

 
Arodin said:
The third possibility would be that his skills have faded, but he is delusional and still thinks he is an elite boundary receiver, and that believes he can still be paid like one...

I'm leaning that way myself...
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A third option?  I said the two complaints were skills faded or lack of motivation.  You selected that his skills had faded.., one of the two options I listed.

I never said, nor really cared about how he rates himself.  Note that, sInce one team offered him “Crabtree money” we know at least one nfl gm feels he has significant value.  Not elite value, but still significant.

One thing I have learned about fantasy is that there is always a rush to jump off a sinking ship.  For me, once you are drafting your third wr, they all have wrinkles and pitfalls.  Maybe he is a Nicks, but I find it just as likely his problem was fit and motivation.  I think I have a significant possibility of drafting a solid wr2 for the price of a mid wr3... and no greater risk of a complete flop than any other player ranked in the vicinity of wr30.

 
Bills GM Brandon Beane said the team won't pursue free agent Dez Bryant.

Beane said the Bills watched Bryant "on tape" but won't pursue the free agent any further. "If we thought that was the right fit for us, we definitely would potentially pursue it," Beane continued. Bryant reportedly turned down a multi-year contract from the Ravens recently and continues to seek out a one-year, prove-it deal. The Cardinals and Packers have been linked to Bryant, though nothing concrete has materialized to this point.

Related: Bills

Source: Mike Rodak on Twitter 

Apr 28 - 7:52 PM
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Almost half the league has at least 15 million or so in cap space.  There are teams with the cap to sign him if they wanted - if his asking price was an accurate reflection of his value, he'd be signed.  At some point his asking price will come down and he'll get signed, but I don't think the late release is what's hurting his value.

 
babydemon90 said:
Almost half the league has at least 15 million or so in cap space.  There are teams with the cap to sign him if they wanted - if his asking price was an accurate reflection of his value, he'd be signed.  At some point his asking price will come down and he'll get signed, but I don't think the late release is what's hurting his value.
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I am not sure about locker room/culture fit, but it sure would make a lot of sense for Green Bay or Indy to pursue him. 

 
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