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I still think he's a clear top 5-15 overall dynasty player. He's a young three down back in the mold of Rice, Lynch, and Forte. You can plug him into your RB1 spot for the next several years and know that he'll probably deliver. I'm worried about the Schiano mess and how that might limit his production, but his workload and versatility should guarantee that he remains a solid FF producer.
Thanks, that is where I had him ranked, I put him as the 5th best running back in dynasty. Behind McCoy, Richardson, Charles, Peterson. Then I had him ranked behind Graham, Gronk, Calvin, Dez, AJ Green, and Julio. When you receive as many offers as I did on him and they are much much lower than this you start to question if you are over valuing him because he is your player.
People really need to relax on this stuff. We're in a specific players bandwagon thread, discussion of what people are seeing in their leagues involving trades are important. It establishes value to the player from a ton of various sources. He isn't saying "Should I trade Martin away for XYZ?". He's simply asking "What are other people seeing in their leagues for trades involving Martin, I'm looking to move him but not sure what to expect on his value now". Which is a 100% perfectly reasonable generalized fantasy discussion and in no way a ACF topic.
I still don't see how what some random poster received for Doug Martin from another random bozo in their random knucklehead league helps anyone else. There's an entire forum dedicated to valuing players in that manner, and that's why people get upset and call posters out for doing it in threads in the Shark Pool.
Not really.... While this is a thread dedicated to the Doug Martin Bandwagon and his NFL stats (or lack there of). A simple exploratory question to the "experienced" masses should be OK. Like my post above I simply showed what i was doing with him to give the value of the current player at his current time. Asking for what everyone is receiving for him is no worse than the THREAD dedicated tot he crazy offer for Julio in dynasty's after his injury. Now if someone jumps on and asks I'm offering X/Y for A/B what do you think, then we should reroute. But simply asking the value of a player based on his performances is kinda what this thread is for... I mean we were talking about when we were going to take him in the draft within the first couple of pages.Grahamburn said:
Let's call a spade a spade. For as great as this website is, NO ONE GOES INTO THE ACF. I repeat, no one goes into the ACF.Keith Lewis said:
Look... value going forward is value going forward. Any information is relevant information. You can chose to ignore it or chose to weigh it in your own decisions. The simple fact is, the posed question breaks none, zero, 00000000 rules of the Shark Pool. Here's the definition of both forums:Grahamburn said:
Really solid trade for you in my opinion. I mean just looking at it I feel like you won 2/3 of this trade.
He had 29 percent of his points in those 2 weeks in ppr scoring. Starting week 6 though he was actually very consistent. He scored at least 15 points in every week except week 13 and 15. Very important weeks to be sure.
Good point.Through week 6 last year, Martin was #23 in PPR. Even ignoring his two big games he was the #3 RB from weeks 10-17.
That is what I am hoping. Maybe he is a slow starter every year? Like Colston always seems to be.
Fortunately what you believe is so wrong as to be laughable.
Nope, Giants homer. And I do not own Martin or TRich in any leagues. I'm just being realistic. TRich is in a 20000000000x better situation than Martin right now. He'll see probably 3-4 times the amount of scoring opportunities and is in an offense that doesn't allow defenses to simply play 8 or 9 in the box every down. Martin will be lucky to finish as a mid level RB2 this season.
I doubt it, the issue is teams have a track record of proven production from Martin. One good game for Glennon (not even that good) isn't going to all of a sudden open things up. If it's Week 10 and he's having games like he had last week consistently then we can talk about that. But otherwise, no not really.
Look at his game log. He had one bad game, one AWFUL game, and three solid outings of 4.2-5.0 YPC.
That's all fine and dandy but your comparing apples to oranges here.Leonidas said:
If Doug Martin is averaging 12.5 points in PPR scoring a game. What would a combo of those 2 average? You can find better else where.
Despite the team doing poorly, Martin has scored more fantasy points through the first 5 games of this season than last season.
You dropped him? As in to the free agent pool? I get benching him but you sir might be insane.
I think he doesn't understand which word to use. It sounds like he simply benched him in favor of Giovani at RB2, and a WR (like VJax) in the flex.
I'm amazed this is even possible. I met him right after he was drafted and he's a beast of a man.
Yeah see, this is the disconnect. As I stated a ton on these boards in the early parts of redraft season (late June early July). I felt like Martin at best had a mid-RB2 floor. I felt like he had 3-4 RB1 games and the rest were RB2 games, one or two were much lower than RB2. And that was in PPR in non-ppr he had more like 2-3 RB1 games and 2-3 RB3-Flex games and the rest somewhere in between. I looked at this and said that his true value was likely the highest result of games. If he has 3 games of RB1 content, 2 games of RB3 content then he had 11 games of high RB2 to low RB2 value. And I look at that and said "Well 11 games of him looking like a RB. And only a few of him looking like an RB1 and a few of him looking like an RB3. Those games cancel each other out. He's probably an RB2 with RB1 upside".
If you take last year's top 10 RB's and remove the two best games from every back, Doug Martin is then RB8.
