***Official*** Dwayne Washington, RB, DET (1 Viewer)

[Tommy Collins]

Can the hype train please stop? He was supposed to be healthy enough to play this week and was passed over by Zenner and Forsett, who was struggling, isn't young and was literally just signed this week. 

The answer will still be no because people refuse to accept reality. I prefer to see threads on page 1 of players that could actually make an impact in a positive way, rather than being a wasted bench spot.

 

[Milkman]

I'm gonna hold in him a couple more weeks.......Unless something falls on the WW I like better. 

 

[NREC34]

Yeah one is a terrible RB that has next to zero chance of becoming anything ever and one is and Elite athlete that could become and elite FF asset. Jesus dude. I'm sorry but I'll never understand why these decisions are hard. It's not close at all between those two.

Update?

 

[matuski]

Can the hype train please stop? He was supposed to be healthy enough to play this week and was passed over by Zenner and Forsett, who was struggling, isn't young and was literally just signed this week. 

The answer will still be no because people refuse to accept reality. I prefer to see threads on page 1 of players that could actually make an impact in a positive way, rather than being a wasted bench spot.

He wasn't healthy, which negates everything else you posted.

 

[Horses Mouth]

Coates out there

 

[Milkman]

Update?

I still feel the same. One game doesn't change hours and hours of scouting. Enjoy your moment in the sun. It's funny how these guys come out and don't make calls on any players then just call other posters out. Lolol no value to the board what so ever. 

 

[Chaka]

I still feel the same. One game doesn't change hours and hours of scouting. Enjoy your moment in the sun. It's funny how these guys come out and don't make calls on any players then just call other posters out. Lolol no value to the board what so ever. 

I apologize in advance for this comment, sincerely I do, but it relates to one of my biggest pet peeves on these boards. Please remind me which NFL team pays you to do "hours and hours" of scouting? 

Sincerely not meant to inflame or insult just to inform/point out faulty logic. If any of us were that good at scouting players we'd be getting paid.

 

[Milkman]

I apologize in advance for this comment, sincerely I do, but it relates to one of my biggest pet peeves on these boards. Please remind me which NFL team pays you to do "hours and hours" of scouting? 

Sincerely not meant to inflame or insult just to inform/point out faulty logic. If any of us were that good at scouting players we'd be getting paid.

Yeah it's just your way of trolling me. Whatever bro. Start him with confidence if you want. He'll never be on one of my teams. 

 

[VaTerp]

FWIW- I don't think its trolling at all to accurately point out that none of us are "scouts" and that it comes off as grossly self important to refer to "hours and hours of scouting" as if you are a professional scout on any level.  

A lot of people here watch a lot of football.  We all have opinions on players.  We are all going to have instances of being right and wrong on guys.  And so will the people who actually evaluate players for a living.

But a friendly word of advice to @Milkman would be to speak a little less matter of factly about your opinions and with a little less hyperbole.  I havent held Ajayi in high regard either but you look sort of silly saying he has "next to zero chance of becoming anything ever", he then he goes out and rushes for 200 yards a few days later, and your response is "one game doesnt change hours and hours of scouting."

Just like you looked silly when you say Devonte Freeman shouldnt even be in the NFL during the same season he produced as the FF  #1 ppg RB.

So again, take it FWIW and this is just friendly advice but you'd probably be well served to take your opinion of your opinions down a notch or three.

 

[Chaka]

Yeah it's just your way of trolling me. Whatever bro. Start him with confidence if you want. He'll never be on one of my teams. 

Sincerely not my intent.

I am still looking to acquire Washington but I'm not dropping Ajayi (again) to do it.

 

[Milkman]

Sincerely not my intent.

I am still looking to acquire Washington but I'm not dropping Ajayi (again) to do it.

Well it looks like you have the next stud RB. Congrats. 

 

[Chaka]

Well it looks like you have the next stud RB. Congrats. 

Not sure about that as he wasn't in my lineup but he's nice to have on the bench.

The real issue with Washington appears to be opportunity (and health obviously).  ZZ wasn't terrible yesterday, the Lions appear content to use the short passing game to WRs and RBs out of the backfield to make up for what appears to be a below average run blocking offensive line which is going to limit all Det RBs not named Riddick.

I would like to acquire him, if the news about his health this week is positive, as a spec player to see if he hits next week but right now he is really only an end of the bench player who, deservedly, should get churned for the next flavor of the week.

 

[JFS171]

Can the hype train please stop? He was supposed to be healthy enough to play this week and was passed over by Zenner and Forsett, who was struggling, isn't young and was literally just signed this week. 

The answer will still be no because people refuse to accept reality. I prefer to see threads on page 1 of players that could actually make an impact in a positive way, rather than being a wasted bench spot.

I'll enjoy bringing this up later.

 

[JFS171]

Here's my take, which is consistent from weeks ago, and remains relatively unchanged.  Let's review:

• Washington was an UDFA that not only made the team, but flashed consistently in preseason action.  He moved ahead of Zenner and pushed Ridley off the roster. 
  
• Abullah gets injured and placed on IR -- he's probably not returning this year
  
• Riddick continues to underwhelm as a RB, but is excellent in the passing game
  
• Leads to Dwayne likely getting his big shot against Chicago, but he gets hurt on his 2nd touch -- THESE THINGS HAPPEN.  YOU CAN'T CONTROL FOR INJURIES!
  
• Lions sign Forsett - beat writers later follow saying Forsett is basically depth --> when healthy, it's Riddick, Washington, then Forsett, then Zenner
  
• Washington misses a couple of weeks, but returns to practice on Friday.  Speculating here, but the pattern shows he's likely on track for next week
  
• Riddick is mysteriously out with an ankle injury -- given how Detroit guards injury news, we really have no idea what's going on.  What NO ONE has bothered to connect is that Forsett was signed after the game in which Riddick supposedly got hurt.  Was he actually signed to replace Riddick, or because of major concerns with Riddick?  No idea -- but the fact that Riddick didn't practice AT ALL last week and was straight ruled out initially suggests something pretty significant is going on.
  

Brings us to this week and going forward.  Washington's getting healthier.  He had already climbed the depth chart to be the committee partner with Riddick.  He's looked good when given opportunities.  As a converted WR, he can function in a lot of the same ways as Riddick (perhaps not as effectively, but better than the other RBs on the roster).  His main backfield competition for touches (Riddick) has been mysteriously missing practices and likely has some sort of significant injury given how the team has handled it.

I play in deeper keeper and dynasty leagues -- Washington isn't going anywhere for me... he's not the last man on my roster.  It's not close.

I said before to meet back here in week 8 when he had recovered from his injury and had a chance to get his role back.  I think it begins this week against Washington, especially if Riddick continues to miss time. 

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Washington was a 7th round pick. And his injury severity is clouded in the same mystery as riddicks.you will get no info. The practice report on just friday was nice. But they still didnt suit him up

 

[Interseptopus]

I cut him and picked up the other Washington and am planning on cutting him too as that situation looks just as murky. 

He has good opportunity. I don't know why everyone gets up in arms when a rookie RB doesn't just dazzle on his first few chances. I am not saying he is David Johnson, but Johnson didn't really take off until week 12. He had action every game before that and looked like he was just low in the pecking order. 
 

Washington can still be a factor. I have short benches in my league and better RBs to try and pick up (like Ajayi). For now I'm keeping a close eye on Washington. Is he a difference maker? No. But he could be a flex play down the stretch.

My need at RB is under control for now so he sits on my WW for now. 

 

[JFS171]

Washington was a 7th round pick. And his injury severity is clouded in the same mystery as riddicks.you will get no info. The practice report on just friday was nice. But they still didnt suit him up

You're right - 7th rounder, not a UDFA... they're pretty similar though.

The fact that he returned to practice and beat writers said they saw him doing work on the side is extremely positive compared to hearing absolutely nothing about Riddick.

 

[btemp]

You have to wonder, even aside from this injury, how healthy Riddick can stay.  He's a small back (not just in height) and already has more carries this year than all of last year.

 

[Chaka]

Here's my take, which is consistent from weeks ago, and remains relatively unchanged.  Let's review:

• Riddick continues to underwhelm as a RB, but is excellent in the passing game
  
• Lions sign Forsett - beat writers later follow saying Forsett is basically depth --> when healthy, it's Riddick, Washington, then Forsett, then Zenner
  
• Riddick is mysteriously out with an ankle injury -- given how Detroit guards injury news, we really have no idea what's going on.  What NO ONE has bothered to connect is that Forsett was signed after the game in which Riddick supposedly got hurt.  Was he actually signed to replace Riddick, or because of major concerns with Riddick?  No idea -- but the fact that Riddick didn't practice AT ALL last week and was straight ruled out initially suggests something pretty significant is going on.
  

• Riddick didn't continue underwhelm as a runner in his last game against what was supposed to be a solid Philadelphia defense.  He actually stopped underwhelming, for one game at least.
  
• I am not sure we know much about the depth chart but yesterday ZZ was clearly ahead of Forsett at least and may have earned a little more PT with his solid performance.
  
• You make an interesting point about Riddick's injury.  Forsett does seem to fit the mold of Riddick.  I am definitely going to be monitoring the practice reports this week to see if you may be on to something.
  

 

[Dismattle]

I still feel the same. One game doesn't change hours and hours of scouting. Enjoy your moment in the sun. It's funny how these guys come out and don't make calls on any players then just call other posters out. Lolol no value to the board what so ever. 

I can respect your position   Matter of fact, I sorta would like to suggest blocking folks  However, it can be good to hear different things  Im most intrigued by posts which go against the grain.  So anyway, I believe many posters arrive to the forum, and slowly start putting to use admirable quotes.  Sadly, it gets hard to have a discussion of sorts with too much unwarranted conviction.  But, at the same time, I totally believe that I learned it takes all kinds in the Navy. 

Im asking ya too consider taking your lumps.  Theres no need to "thump your chest" about providing helpful insight.  If someone throws a little shade with some common decency?  It might be good to look at it as your chance to laugh at yourself.  Its better to laugh, than beat yourself up for being wrong..  We dont know what a Coach knows Or thinks, so it isnt going to be a science.  Its an educated guess, nothing more, nothing less.  Definitely, something to consider, seeing as how some guys on the board are playing for large cash  (its why I myself try to limit subjectivity)  

I sincerely appreciate the opportunity to view your two cents on a player/position..  It helps in so many ways that it isnt funny.  (Honesty is the best policy) 

Any given Sunday!  So yeah, One game means squat!  But, try to notice:  Is the team playing hard   Is the Coach enthusiastic  What are the announcers saying  It might very well be one game, but it might be the guys only opportunity.  The audition doesnt stop upon the completion of Pre-Season for some players.  If it looks like their playing out of their mind?  They just might be doing that very thing.  No Im not saying Ajayi risked being cut/traded.  But the performance didnt hurt his trade value too much.

p.s.  If ya do start blocking the wiseguys/alias accounts?  Id suggest signing off on your phone so ya can still read occasionally.  (Always a chance ya make a mistake)  Im sure the real gurus who made this board enjoy a smile when their mimicked, or see a poster grow in their level of understanding.. For the others (who may be blocked) my apologies for the big words.  Im just giving you a shout-out!

 

[mnmplayer]

You have to wonder, even aside from this injury, how healthy Riddick can stay.  He's a small back (not just in height) and already has more carries this year than all of last year.

Washington has a history of having problems staying healthy. His running style lends itself to opening himself up for injury (upright, long strider, not good lean/pad level). You have to be healthy to break out, after all and Washington isn't healthy right now. When faced with the Howard or Washington decision 3-4 weeks back, I argued for Howard.

Fast forward to a real time decision today and I would rather place my bets with Rawls/Dion Lewis type guys at the back end of my roster, guys who have proven to be productive in the past (and who are also injured on the wire in many leagues). Rostering Washington is based upon hope/hype for future production splitting time in an offense that has shown lack of opportunity/past production for DET RBs. Just my .$02. This stands with keeper leagues as well.


Draft Profile Weaknesses:


 Long strider. Struggles to make quick, decisive cuts. Poor feel for the right running track on stretch plays. Looks for cutback lanes that arent there. Will run up blockers back and has very little feel between tackles. Scat­back who fails to run to his size. Plagued by fumbles putting ball on the ground 10 times in 227 career carries (college). Lost starting job this season (college) and missed final three games due to injury. Has struggled to stay healthy during time at Washington (college).

We can write off his injuries in the past as fluke, but here he is again, following a pattern with an injury after only a handful of carries and nothing I have seen of him on tape in the pros indicates his draft profile above was wrong. He's big and he's fast and he can catch. Beyond that he is not a polished RB.

 

[MaxThreshold]

Washington has a history of having problems staying healthy. His running style lends itself to opening himself up for injury (upright, long strider, not good lean/pad level). You have to be healthy to break out, after all and Washington isn't healthy right now. When faced with the Howard or Washington decision 3-4 weeks back, I argued for Howard.

Fast forward to a real time decision today and I would rather place my bets with Rawls/Dion Lewis type guys at the back end of my roster, guys who have proven to be productive in the past (and who are also injured on the wire in many leagues). Rostering Washington is based upon hope/hype for future production splitting time in an offense that has shown lack of opportunity/past production for DET RBs. Just my .$02. This stands with keeper leagues as well.


Draft Profile Weaknesses:


 Long strider. Struggles to make quick, decisive cuts. Poor feel for the right running track on stretch plays. Looks for cutback lanes that arent there. Will run up blockers back and has very little feel between tackles. Scat­back who fails to run to his size. Plagued by fumbles putting ball on the ground 10 times in 227 career carries (college). Lost starting job this season (college) and missed final three games due to injury. Has struggled to stay healthy during time at Washington (college).

We can write off his injuries in the past as fluke, but here he is again, following a pattern with an injury after only a handful of carries and nothing I have seen of him on tape in the pros indicates his draft profile above was wrong. He's big and he's fast and he can catch. Beyond that he is not a polished RB.

Great post.  

I noted earlier that when you get an opportunity in the NFL you need to take it and make a statement.  Instead of making that statement, Washington immediately got injured.  Injuries happen and it sucks it had to be on the day he was supposed to show something but IMO that indicates that maybe he's not the lottery ticket or solid RB that we thought he would be.

People who make a difference typically don't blow that opportunity and fall flat on their face like Washington did.  Now, that opportunity may have closed for him.

 

[Dismattle]

grrr mnmplayer  I dont wish to recall the exact situation..  But I believe it was this "upright" running style which had me shy away from L. Bell, and I wound up with CPatt.  So anyway, what do you think about this theory that Dwayne might be one of the top two backs in the draft?  Do you not agree that if Dwayne "hits" its a rather large hit, as opposed to any available scatback types?  Ive already dropped Dwayne myself (added DGB) but a Lions fan picked him right up!

Personally, Id really enjoy hearing what Detroit sport radio is saying, because (aside from the Coach) I cant believe Dwayne isnt seeing alot of work.  I realize there may be fumble issues   The guy may not be able to pass block   Theres probably many excuses  But, its time to find out in a live game! 

 

[MaxThreshold]

grrr mnmplayer  I dont wish to recall the exact situation..  But I believe it was this "upright" running style which had me shy away from L. Bell, and I wound up with CPatt.  So anyway, what do you think about this theory that Dwayne might be one of the top two backs in the draft?  Do you not agree that if Dwayne "hits" its a rather large hit, as opposed to any available scatback types?  Ive already dropped Dwayne myself (added DGB) but a Lions fan picked him right up!

Personally, Id really enjoy hearing what Detroit sport radio is saying, because (aside from the Coach) I cant believe Dwayne isnt seeing alot of work.  I realize there may be fumble issues   The guy may not be able to pass block   Theres probably many excuses  But, its time to find out in a live game! 

IMO, he would have already "hit" it if he was going to.  That opportunity was presented to him and he fell completely on his face.  I bet the coaching staff was just as disappointed as we were.

 

[mnmplayer]

grrr mnmplayer  I dont wish to recall the exact situation..  But I believe it was this "upright" running style which had me shy away from L. Bell, and I wound up with CPatt.  So anyway, what do you think about this theory that Dwayne might be one of the top two backs in the draft?  Do you not agree that if Dwayne "hits" its a rather large hit, as opposed to any available scatback types?  Ive already dropped Dwayne myself (added DGB) but a Lions fan picked him right up!

Personally, Id really enjoy hearing what Detroit sport radio is saying, because (aside from the Coach) I cant believe Dwayne isnt seeing alot of work.  I realize there may be fumble issues   The guy may not be able to pass block   Theres probably many excuses  But, its time to find out in a live game! 

I was replying to the poster that said Riddick was small and probably prone to more injuries going forward (indicating there would be more opp for Washington possibly). I wanted to say Washington also has legit injury risks. To your statement, yes, upright runners can be very successful, but AP/Lat Murray, DeMarco Murray, McFadden, et al. types have their problems staying healthy. I think Bell is one of the best backs in the game. Upright backs can be productive, but all these RBs I listed are very polished runners in spite of running upright. Washington runs upright and long strides and gets hit hard. He lacks adequate power/leverage for his size. He got thrown back on his ### at least twice in the GB game. There is a reason WRs don't run 15+ times from the backfield even though they are super fast and agile. Long striding, lack of vision and upright running style akin to how WRs run (he is a converted WR) won't last long with 15+ carries a game. I am just quoting the 'lack of vision' and 'lack of feel' from scouting reports. I haven't seen enough of him to make that statement myself.

Bell might run upright, but he takes very short steps and lowers his pads with excellent vision/patience upon impact. He is rarely if ever caught with a big hit. Swaggy gets knocked off his feet multiple times a game taking hard hits and getting knocked backwards which is a sign his power/leverage is poor.

 

[Dismattle]

Good points..  I think I might have misread something about being a "pilemover"  Its possible he knows how to run inside, but chooses to hit the speed button too soon  (I dunno)  I havnt seen much myself..  Think Ive seen two runs, and one happened to quick for my old eyes..

 

[SameSongNDance]

Riddick didn't practice today but Washington did. Still no word on whether it was limited or full.

It's only Wednesday but you have to imagine this is a great sign for his availability this week. I've probably added and dropped the dude a thousand times but I'm back on board. 

 

[JFS171]

IMO, he would have already "hit" it if he was going to.  That opportunity was presented to him and he fell completely on his face.  I bet the coaching staff was just as disappointed as we were.

He got HURT.  That isn't the same as falling on his face?

 

[JFS171]

Riddick didn't practice today but Washington did. Still no word on whether it was limited or full.

It's only Wednesday but you have to imagine this is a great sign for his availability this week. I've probably added and dropped the dude a thousand times but I'm back on board. 

Holding steady... as I've held steady this whole time.  The time draweth nigh... I remain optimistic.

 

[JFS171]

FWIW, the beat writers are saying he's practicing...

Kyle Meinke ‏@kmeinke 27m27 minutes ago

Corey Fuller, Larry Warford, Dwayne Washington practicing. Eric Ebron running on side, looks very close to return. No Ngata, Riddick, Levy

 

[hamsterdam]

One more time baby. I need you DWash, prove the haters wrong.

 

[MaxThreshold]

He got HURT.  That isn't the same as falling on his face?

Yeah, it's ####ty that that happened on the day he was supposed to prove something, but that's what happened.  I guess it's not actually "falling on his face", but the result is the same - major disappointment and ruined expectations and a lot of "Oh.  Guess he wasn't all that after all.".  That opportunity may now not be waiting for him anymore and be filled by someone else ready to actually do something with it.

 

[Sarlakticacid]

He has a lot of competition this week on the FF FA list:

K Davis
J Rogers
M Davis

 

[Sarlakticacid]

He has a lot of competition this week on the FF FA list:

K Davis
J Rogers
M Davis

Now

Gillesslee

Who else is there

 

[JFS171]

Yeah, it's ####ty that that happened on the day he was supposed to prove something, but that's what happened.  I guess it's not actually "falling on his face", but the result is the same - major disappointment and ruined expectations and a lot of "Oh.  Guess he wasn't all that after all.".  That opportunity may now not be waiting for him anymore and be filled by someone else ready to actually do something with it.

I guess this is my whole point though... the opportunity is still right there, same as it was a few weeks ago.  Forsett sucked in Baltimore, so they cut him.  He gained 5 yards on 5 carries in a game Zach Zenner looked good.  Zenner's not very good either, evidenced by Washington being ahead of him from Day 1 of the season.  Riddick is now hurt with a potentially substantial ankle injury that we've heard nothing about. 

I just don't see how the opportunity has evaporated.  Washington is a physically gifted player, and he's flashed talent.  Opportunity awaits.  Thus, I keep holding.

 

[MaxThreshold]

I guess this is my whole point though... the opportunity is still right there, same as it was a few weeks ago.  Forsett sucked in Baltimore, so they cut him.  He gained 5 yards on 5 carries in a game Zach Zenner looked good.  Zenner's not very good either, evidenced by Washington being ahead of him from Day 1 of the season.  Riddick is now hurt with a potentially substantial ankle injury that we've heard nothing about. 

I just don't see how the opportunity has evaporated.  Washington is a physically gifted player, and he's flashed talent.  Opportunity awaits.  Thus, I keep holding.

I'm impressed by your optimism.

What do you think he'll do this weekend?

 

[JFS171]

I'm impressed by your optimism.

What do you think he'll do this weekend?

I've said the whole time I thought it was a second-half of the year play... I'm not sure what to expect this weekend, though Washington prior to the Philly game hasn't played the best run defense.  If Riddick is inactive, my guess is Washington (assuming health) takes Zenner's work from last week.(as the beat writers have said -- the depth chart is Riddick, Washington, Forsett, Zenner OR Zenner, Forsett). 

I'll say, without knowing anymore than we do today, 13 carries for 57 yards, 3 receptions for 24 yards... total shot in the dark guess.

 

[Dr. Octopus]

Riddick didn't practice today but Washington did. Still no word on whether it was limited or full.

It's only Wednesday but you have to imagine this is a great sign for his availability this week. I've probably added and dropped the dude a thousand times but I'm back on board. 

I'm still holding, but my concern is that Zach Zenner did pretty well last week. While Washington was ahead of Zenner on the depth chart before the injury, I'm not sure that his place was secure enough to guarantee he goes back in line in front of Zenner. It would be tough to start him this week even with a juicy matchup with Washington.

 

[swabs]

Don't you all realize that Detroit can't run the ball?  Riddick is the only one with any value because he can actually make someone miss a tackle.

 

[bolldpt]

Don't you all realize that Detroit can't run the ball?  Riddick is the only one with any value because he can actually make someone miss a tackle.

Don't sleep on Swaggy!

 

[JFS171]

Riddick missed practice again today.

 

[shadyridr]

Riddick missed practice again today.

Yeah but has Dwayne ever returned to a full practice yet?

 

[JFS171]

Yeah but has Dwayne ever returned to a full practice yet?

I don't know if he's officially listed as full, but the beat writers had this to say per Rotoworld:

 

Tim Twentyman of DetroitLions.com believes Dwayne Washington (ankle) will "get a nice workload" if Theo Riddick (ankle) sits again this week.
Both Riddick and Washington were out last week, but Washington is expected back after getting in a limited practice Wednesday. Riddick was not able to practice. Justin Forsett should start to take on a bigger role as he becomes more comfortable in the offense, and Zach Zenner showed enough last week to retain some snaps as well. This is shaping up as a situation to avoid if possible. Oct 20 - 10:00 AM

 

 

[Weebs210]

I want a ticket back on this train but it would cost me dropping someone like Tyrrell Williams or Jordan Matthews.  

 

[JIslander]

I want a ticket back on this train but it would cost me dropping someone like Tyrrell Williams or Jordan Matthews.  

Me too.  So thoughts on Dwyane vs. Gillisslee and Mike Davis ROS?

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

Me too.  So thoughts on Dwyane vs. Gillisslee and Mike Davis ROS?

i haven't kept up with Gilslee situation so not sure about that, but if the recent reports are true about Hyde's injury not being serious enough to warrant more than one week off, then Davis has very little value outside of this week. IF (as big an if as it gets) Washington can get a full game in and perform as well as this train hopes, then he has value for the season and beyond.

 

[JIslander]

i haven't kept up with Gilslee situation so not sure about that, but if the recent reports are true about Hyde's injury not being serious enough to warrant more than one week off, then Davis has very little value outside of this week. IF (as big an if as it gets) Washington can get a full game in and perform as well as this train hopes, then he has value for the season and beyond.

yeah and Shady likely to get it back soon too -- Dwayne could develop into the main back--

 

[JFS171]

Me too.  So thoughts on Dwyane vs. Gillisslee and Mike Davis ROS?

Hyde supposedly has ditched the sling, and they're on bye next week... I'd probably value Washington over Mike Davis if you don't need a guy to produce this week.

 

[Weebs210]

Anyone starting to get a feeling riddick may be out long term? I'm going to try and make a two for one trade to open a bench spot so I can grab Washington back.

 

[JFS171]

Anyone starting to get a feeling riddick may be out long term? I'm going to try and make a two for one trade to open a bench spot so I can grab Washington back.

Yep... not practicing again today.  Per Rotoworld:

Theo Riddick (ankle) missed practice again on Friday.

He isn't going to play against the Redskins, leaving backfield work to Zach Zenner, Dwayne Washington, and Justin Forsett. We also saw a spike in Golden Tate's production with Riddick and Eric Ebron sidelined last week. Ebron has also not practiced at all this week and isn't going to play.