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***Official*** Dwayne Washington, RB, DET (1 Viewer)
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mnmplayer
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Guys I'm SO SORRY in advance for bumping this thread. It was painful before it died down lol...
However, I'm letting you guys know that I decided to jump back in. Dropped an injured Hogan to pick him up. No real news. Things are very quiet on the Washington front. I decided to stash him again though bc:
- He, not Zenner, was active before the bye.
- Riddick still sucks at running b/w the tackles.
- Jax is a decent match up, and if he blows up this week I won't be able to grab him on waivers with a low priority.
- He's a 1b in a (albeit bad) running game, but that has value over a WR7 or a TE2, or a mediocre defense.
It's really a "just in case he puts it all together this week" kind of thing. Don't think for a second that Detroit wouldn't love to be able to run the ball and grind games out if they could. He's their best bet to be that guy IF he can stay healthy and produce. I give him a pass for his 10-26 stat line before the bye as it was against a tough minny defense (when they were still sort of tough).
However, I'm letting you guys know that I decided to jump back in. Dropped an injured Hogan to pick him up. No real news. Things are very quiet on the Washington front. I decided to stash him again though bc:
- He, not Zenner, was active before the bye.
- Riddick still sucks at running b/w the tackles.
- Jax is a decent match up, and if he blows up this week I won't be able to grab him on waivers with a low priority.
- He's a 1b in a (albeit bad) running game, but that has value over a WR7 or a TE2, or a mediocre defense.
It's really a "just in case he puts it all together this week" kind of thing. Don't think for a second that Detroit wouldn't love to be able to run the ball and grind games out if they could. He's their best bet to be that guy IF he can stay healthy and produce. I give him a pass for his 10-26 stat line before the bye as it was against a tough minny defense (when they were still sort of tough).
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NYRAGE
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HAHAHA sorry man. just drop an end of bench guy for him that way when he most likely does NOTHING you didn't take any risk on picking him up. Think about it though...what do ALL teams do in their bye week? They try to address their greatest areas of weakness and make some changes to their game plan. For Detroit on the offensive side of the ball that weakness is the run game. Now, does that mean that Dwayne Washington is part of the solution? Who knows? For all we know he's inactive tomorrow and Zenner is the focus. It's been super quiet on the news front during their bye so I have nothing to go on.
But if they are going to try to recommit to the run game the way Miami did, and they decide to give Washington a shot at being that early down guy, could be a great rb3 or 4 to have going into the playoffs.
Schedule is fairly neutral vs the run imo.
But if they are going to try to recommit to the run game the way Miami did, and they decide to give Washington a shot at being that early down guy, could be a great rb3 or 4 to have going into the playoffs.
Schedule is fairly neutral vs the run imo.
Houston turmOiler
Footballguy
Unfortunately I had this same thought. He'll be fun to cut next week for another longshot dart throw I suppose. Expecting nothing, just can't find any other decent flyers in our deep league.
dipandglide
Footballguy
ABDULLAH
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
I just noticed this thread is 41 pages....lol
mnmplayer
Footballguy
A reasonable assessment not based upond pure hype. After all, it's not like you could pick up Jordan Howard, CJ Prosise, Thomas Rawls, Dion Lewis, Gillislee, West or the other West, Kenneth Dixon, Asiata, McKinnon, Mathews, Sproles, Ajayi, Hightower, Stewart, or Bibbs, as well as others. Those guys are all rostered by now. It's slim pickins a rb this week at this point in the season, and its only getting slimmer as the season goes on with 2016 rb injuries mounting up. I mean, James freaking Starks is rostered in all my leagues ... STARKS. :X
At this point in the season, hype is over and at the price of free FA pickup (no waiver priority or faab), it actually makes sense to throw a dart at Washington, especially since there is nothing new on the wire during a yawn week at rb. Why not? But if you been holding all year, prolly not smart passing on what you could have had.
whole-show
Footballguy
So do I drop a guy like Paul Perkins for him? Seriously been considering it for a week or two now.
Bugg
Footballguy
I originally posted this in the excellent, "2016 RB Lotto" thread: https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/746681-2016-rb-lotto-ticket-rankings/?page=16
...but it also applies here.
A narrative may be developing that adds support for A. Abdullah as a potential FF playoff contributor...
...as is always the case, the RW comments must be taken for what they are...RW.
...but it also applies here.
A narrative may be developing that adds support for A. Abdullah as a potential FF playoff contributor...
...as is always the case, the RW comments must be taken for what they are...RW.
Both of you drop it now. Keep it to talking about the player. If you want to whine about each other, find another board.U felt the need to bump this back to the first page this morning to give us all this piece of wisdom? Your ego must be very fragile. I guess this shows how much you really care about being made to look foolish on a public forum ... bad forum poster, bad boy! 41 pages of mostly dung. let it go! you guys lost. let this thread fade back to the annals of archived history of misguided hopes and dreams... And since i wont reply again .... Weeeeeeeeeeeebs!
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Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Oh my god, dwash owners just vultured by Ebron.
KingPrawn
Footballguy
Long Ball Larry
Footballguy
Tommy Collins
Footballguy
MaxThreshold
Footballguy
Riddick inactive today and Washington available on my WW. I swear to god I am NOT going to pick him up and start him. This guy is fool's gold.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Milkman
Footballguy
Haha this is it. This is his big chance to show he's the best back on this team. I'm excited. Watching some of his past touches he's been really close to breaking a few big plays. Lets see what he does!
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Looked solid last week against a defensive front that has been playing very well. 14-64, that doesn't include his longest run that was called back (DL had two hands pushing back the head of the Lions C - Jeff Triplett called illegal use of hand on the OL.)
More than stats, though. This guy has developed into a punishing runner. He likes initiating contact. Saw him catch a pass two yards short of the sticks, 3 defenders converged, and he carried the whole pile by himself the 6 feet he needed for the FD. You cannot arm tackle him, he'll go right through it.
Forecast Sunday is mid-40s & snow. We know what happens to "snow" when it's that far above freezing. It's gonna be miserable & wet, I expect them to lean on him a little more than we've seen.
Temper that with while he's the healthiest tailback not named Joique, he has now been dinged up 3-4 times this year. Not sure if he keeps tweaking the same ankle or not.
But if he stays healthy, Swaggy is very capable.
More than stats, though. This guy has developed into a punishing runner. He likes initiating contact. Saw him catch a pass two yards short of the sticks, 3 defenders converged, and he carried the whole pile by himself the 6 feet he needed for the FD. You cannot arm tackle him, he'll go right through it.
Forecast Sunday is mid-40s & snow. We know what happens to "snow" when it's that far above freezing. It's gonna be miserable & wet, I expect them to lean on him a little more than we've seen.
Temper that with while he's the healthiest tailback not named Joique, he has now been dinged up 3-4 times this year. Not sure if he keeps tweaking the same ankle or not.
But if he stays healthy, Swaggy is very capable.
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BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Yeah, he's not likely to morph into fantasy relevancy RoS. NYG & DAL are 22nd & 25th in FFPA in full PPR - he's not seeing enough targets. Might change this week if Theo misses practice again tomorrow.
Also wanted to add he was outstanding in pass pro last week. Good to see his development this year. This guy is still pretty raw & learning his position, so pay attention to OTAs & TC to see if he continues to progress going into 2017.
Also wanted to add he was outstanding in pass pro last week. Good to see his development this year. This guy is still pretty raw & learning his position, so pay attention to OTAs & TC to see if he continues to progress going into 2017.
Big Blue Wrecking Crew
downsized
Have made it to the semis with the troika of Gurley, Ingram and Ware. All three are flex level at best this week, so is there anything to see here or am I just grasping at straws, as the RB WW is cleaned out otherwise (Sims the only potential other option). Have not seen Detroit play at all beyond Thankgiving for a bit, so flying in the blind here.
I think I'm going to get nuts and put him in my line-up over both Ingram and Mathews, who have terrible match-ups. Will depend on Riddick and Zenner not suiting up, though.
mnmplayer
Footballguy
Matchups? You talking matchups? We don't need no sticking badges ... oh wait.
The New York Football Giants are not an easy matchup either, and Dallas is even a worse matchup vs RBs, and what has he shown to even consider starting him vs these two defenses? This guy is useless for 2016 with Riddick on the field, just like I said many, many pages ago in the opening weeks of the season when people were seriously discussing picking Swaggy up instead of Jordan Howard which at this point in the season seems ludicrous.
It's even worse than that though, because he did have another late season opp with Riddick out. He really needed to show more with that opp and didn't really shine then either. One good run doesn't count for much. Any scrub can do that. Hell, Lankford and Asiata have had good single runs before! He needed to put together a good game. He has never produced or even scored in double digits in PPR yet all season long. I can't believe people are bumping this thread when he cant even put together a good game vs these defenses which are comparable to what he will face ROS:
What has he done with 15 carries vs GB? 4.6 points. (3.8 ypc)
What has he done with 15 carries vs MIN? 4.5 points. ( 3ypc over two games)
What has he done with 13 carries vs JAX? 3.6 points (.46 ypc - yes that less than half a yard per carry, not 4.6)
What has he done with 16 carries vs CHI? 8 points. (4 ypc)
What has he done in summary vs these defenses that are comparable to NYG and DAL? 49 carries 147 yards (3 ypc)
These are the only defenses that he has faced and had at least 10 carries against.
He also earned 3 ypc vs the stout New Orleans defense which is a green RB matchup, much easier than NYG and DAL!
To think about starting him vs NYG and DAL ... LOL
I have to wonder how you are even in the playoffs. The rest of your team aside from RB2 must be gang busters! But seriously, this guy is barely startable even without Riddick on the field for the rest of 2016, and with Riddick ... well I think that argument was lost Please someone tell me what he has shown to start him in your fantasy playoffs?
He's a project for 2017 at best, and even then his prospects don't look good as he will need to contend with Riddick, Abdullah and any RB they happen to draft in 2017. He missed his window to be top dog in this offense. Maybe he gets another shot next year if enough injuries happen in front of him. No bother to waste much time thinking about him before that, unless you are in a deep dynasty dive.
Happy with him being my #4 RB behind Bell, Miller and Ingram for 2017 as long as they don't draft a big RB. As dumb as Caldwell is, even he can see that Riddick is simply a 3rd down back, Abdullah is the same and they need a big RB. One thing about Caldwell is that if he has a lead, he is not at all interested in putting the other team away. He will run the ball and eat the clock.
Just don't fumble. You are a 7th rounder. You cannot afford to fumble.
Just don't fumble. You are a 7th rounder. You cannot afford to fumble.
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tl;drMatchups? You talking matchups? We don't need no sticking badges ... oh wait.
The New York Football Giants are not an easy matchup either, and Dallas is even a worse matchup vs RBs, and what has he shown to even consider starting him vs these two defenses? This guy is useless for 2016 with Riddick on the field, just like I said many, many pages ago in the opening weeks of the season when people were seriously discussing picking Swaggy up instead of Jordan Howard which at this point in the season seems ludicrous.
It's even worse than that though, because he did have another late season opp with Riddick out. He really needed to show more with that opp and didn't really shine then either. One good run doesn't count for much. Any scrub can do that. Hell, Lankford and Asiata have had good single runs before! He needed to put together a good game. He has never produced or even scored in double digits in PPR yet all season long. I can't believe people are bumping this thread when he cant even put together a good game vs these defenses which are comparable to what he will face ROS:
What has he done with 15 carries vs GB? 4.6 points. (3.8 ypc)
What has he done with 15 carries vs MIN? 4.5 points. ( 3ypc over two games)
What has he done with 13 carries vs JAX? 3.6 points (.46 ypc - yes that less than half a yard per carry, not 4.6)
What has he done with 16 carries vs CHI? 8 points. (4 ypc)
What has he done in summary vs these defenses that are comparable to NYG and DAL? 49 carries 147 yards (3 ypc)
These are the only defenses that he has faced and had at least 10 carries against.
He also earned 3 ypc vs the stout New Orleans defense which is a green RB matchup, much easier than NYG and DAL!
To think about starting him vs NYG and DAL ... LOLweeksmonths ago. The season is almost over with two bad matchups left in the fantasy playoffs for Swaggy.
Please someone tell me what he has shown to start him in your fantasy playoffs?
He's a project for 2017 at best, and even then his prospects don't look good as he will need to contend with Riddick, Abdullah and any RB they happen to draft in 2017. He missed his window to be top dog in this offense. Maybe he gets another shot next year if enough injuries happen in front of him. No bother to waste much time thinking about him before that, unless you are in a deep dynasty dive.
Starting Swaggy with confidence.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
The New York Giants have allowed back to back 100 yard rushers.
Considering starting him over Ajayi if Riddick is out
Considering starting him over Ajayi if Riddick is out
bizkliz
Footballguy
I'm in the same boat, only my winning options are Gore & Dixon (along w Riddick).The New York Giants have allowed back to back 100 yard rushers.
Considering starting him if Riddick is out
If the word continues to circulate until gametime Sunday that Theo & ZZ are both out, then I'll likely have no choice but to plug him in.
Needless to say, my interest in the Detroit backfield has never been higher.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
My other option is Ajayi, which is a pretty strong matchup against the Jets and Miami with a new QB, which should spell for a great game from Ajayi but you never know. Washington could be a pretty big play with everyone else in that backfield injured!
mnmplayer
Footballguy
True, never mind that one of those rushers was Zeke (you know, the leading rusher in the NFL) with the Dallas o-line, and it took Zeke 24 carries to barely get 107, and the other rusher was L. Bell, and it took him 29 carries to get 118 yards (4.06 ypc). Swaggy is totally on those guys level!The New York Giants have allowed back to back 100 yard rushers.
Considering starting him over Ajayi if Riddick is out
Slaggy ain't getting 29 carries in the DET offense and even if he did I doubt he would crack 100 yards vs NY with an expected 3 ypc.
Milkman
Footballguy
He's actually more of a home run hitter than either of those guys. Obviously not on their level at this point though.....True, never mind that one of those rushers was Zeke (you know, the leading rusher in the NFL) with the Dallas o-line, and it took Zeke 24 carries to barely get 107, and the other rusher was L. Bell, and it took him 29 carries to get 118 yards (4.06 ypc). Swaggy is totally on those guys level!
Slaggy ain't getting 29 carries in the DET offense and even if he did I doubt he would crack 100 yards vs NY with an expected 3 ypc.
MaxThreshold
Footballguy
I'm thinking 15 carries for 17 yards - and one dropped pass.True, never mind that one of those rushers was Zeke (you know, the leading rusher in the NFL) with the Dallas o-line, and it took Zeke 24 carries to barely get 107, and the other rusher was L. Bell, and it took him 29 carries to get 118 yards (4.06 ypc). Swaggy is totally on those guys level!
Slaggy ain't getting 29 carries in the DET offense and even if he did I doubt he would crack 100 yards vs NY with an expected 3 ypc.
Interseptopus
Footballguy
I'm thinking 22 carries for 117 yards and at least 1 td :IBTL:True, never mind that one of those rushers was Zeke (you know, the leading rusher in the NFL) with the Dallas o-line, and it took Zeke 24 carries to barely get 107, and the other rusher was L. Bell, and it took him 29 carries to get 118 yards (4.06 ypc). Swaggy is totally on those guys level!
Slaggy ain't getting 29 carries in the DET offense and even if he did I doubt he would crack 100 yards vs NY with an expected 3 ypc.
ahhh ... can we finally lay this thread to rest for 2016? The kid couldn't even muster 3 ypc that I gave him credit for in this offense ...
