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TeamA gave up Hurts. They still have Mahomes.
Agree Ertz isn't worth much, but I don't see this as giving up a 24 1st for Ertz. I see it as giving up the 1.6 this year for a random pick next year in a 16 team league. Don't know if it is sf, te premium, rebuilding or contending, but 1.6 is a pretty good pick. You are losing out on the use of what could be a pretty good player AND your praying for a top 3 pick next year in order to make it pay off. I'm not in any 16 tm lgs, but this far out (1 yr+) in 12 tm lgs I usually value a future 1st around 1.8. Not sure I would do it whether rebuilding or contending, maybe if I had a ton of 1st rd picks and wanted to move some, but if that were the case I would be looking to move a later one. Just my 2 cents, if I felt certain it was bottom 3 team maybe, but it is hard to know that this far away from the start of the season.
My bad and thanks for pointing it out. I'd been on a few day bender and responding to some posts while stuck in the airport yesterday and my reading comprehension might have been low. I 100% missed the 1.6.
I appreciate it for sure. It’s a lot to digest.
The Worst Offered thread has a similar conversation going on about the value of QBs in a 1QB league. It’s easy to say that QBs don’t have the value of a 1st. And I totally understand that argument. It is tough though to have that opinion when you are one of the QB have-nots. Sure that 1st could end up being J Jefferson, but it could also be T Sermon. Having a top 5 QB is nice piece of mind.
Yes, the league we are in together is the my one league that does not have a stud QB. Pinned my hopes on Lance and it's not worked so far. Life's been rough.
You are correct sir. I had offered Collins as a throw in and he wanted Ertz. Fine with me since I agree with menobrown that I would have cut Ertz anyway
I can see where you AND Jabrony are both coming from, I have always felt as you do with regard to FFPC 1 QB lgs and had the "I'll find 1 or 2 to get it done" attitude. However, I feel the stream qb, and QBs don't matter winds have changed over the last couple of years and having a top qb has become much more important recently. I agree I am still not paying the iron price for qb in 1 qb lgs, but I am paying more and more than ever trying to make sure I get one of the top ones. Not sure everyone has noticed, but as Jabrony pointed out, the whole streaming\cobbling thing has gotten a lot tougher and you have a pretty big advantage with a top qb. I traded a future 1st in the 2021 startup we share to trade up for Mahomes and would do it again in a heart beat. Joey traded for Allen and I don't think its any coincidence we have been 1 and 2 seeds both years. Lots of land mines with the cobble qbs in recent years.
That is good context, you are established winner (good to be the King!) with multiple picks and roster limitations. You have the flexibility and incentive to take a calculated risk and that makes the deal a lot more sensible. GL!
Fun league. Like the salary cap concept as it forces teams to make decisions on players vs just keeping them forever and generates a lot more trading. Took over a crappy team 3 years ago and was able to turn it around quickly with a lot of wheeling and dealing and some good fortune. Harder to do that in a traditional dynasty.
Salary Cap/Contracts is a great way to keep player movement going in a league. When we set up our league we wanted to make it hard for someone to keep a player their entire career. That if it was a top 10 type player you needed to make sacrifices elsewhere to keep him the whole career. It's the primary reason we have escalation clauses for players if they finish in the top 15 of their position in scoring. Their salary goes up (unless under contract). We do allow awarding up to 3 yr contracts for players drafted or obtained in auction. Basically if all teams had an opportunity at a player then you can award a contract. If you are just keeping a guy then he gets a 1 yr contract and is subject to escalation again. Same the following year...etc.
I prefer the Bijan side, but considerable large amount? It's not like the other side are over the hill.
Yeah, the more I think about it the more I agree - getting Bijan for Barkley+Swift is the answer here.
I mean fantasy wise Cousins is a great SF QB to have provided you have another QB of similar or better pedigree. The step down from Mahomes to Cousins isn't terrible.
It’s pretty bad without Mahomes.
Also, I have no choice but compare it to the haul I got for Mahomes in a 12-team SF.
Fair. Not a bargain. Could go badly if Tua’s career is cut short due to concussion.
Good deal IMO. Waddle is proven with two very good seasons under his belt. Giving up 1.4 and Williams would have been excessive.
Pretty much how I see it. I think 1.4 and Jameson for Waddle would have been fair, but I'd not have paid it myself. This is I would be more comfortable doing.
I agree. As I suggested above, the risk with Waddle is Tua.
Easier said than done though. I get what you’re saying, but we’ve seen talent squandered before due to QB issues.
I'd take the1st/Williams side. But I am very high on Williams.
I agree, and would take Williams and the 1st.
Who are your RBs?
It's not like Tua is actually that good. He's probably in the bottom half of QBs in the league (I'd put him somewhere around QB20) - it's just hard not to put up good numbers with two studs like Waddle and Hill.
I'd have held the 1.2 myself. Yes part of that is liking Gibbs more but even if I liked JSN more I'd have still held. The 2.3 is nice but I'd want more control over my top picks destiny and know for the next few months I get any player in the draft not named Bijan.
Herbert
Good point.
I have half the picks in the 1st in one league and have been rejecting offers.
Crunch time, Prices go up! I agree with holding until OTC. I have so many needs, moving from 1.07 to 1.11 could be worth the move pending offers.
